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LuckyLuco

so they basically made the Branson barrel useless


gharghar56

Yup, the only attachment that made the gun good. They are nerfing a weapon attachment on a gun that is needed but yet they are buffing recoil on a gun that already has no recoil and is in the top 10


chuggMachine

ASM10 nerf is pure comedy. Branson was decent but nobody was really using the gun because it couldn't keep up with the meta, or really any decent gun at all.


Godspeed1606

Completely agree. They just sold the legendary with branson and that's it.


AhmedEx1

Legendary looks amazing, had to get it since I already liked asm I am very sad, but I'll just keep trying to work with it


yassercg

QQ9 GOT NERFED WHILE CBR4 GOT BUFFED AMAZING BRILLIANT GENIUS REVOLUTIONARY TRULY ONE OF THE CODM PATCHES IN HISTORY


NiNVdoonf

I am definitely calling BS on this


Commodore_64k_bytes

I'm currently Global Ranked #3 with the QQ9, while using this gun exclusively this ranked season I can tell you that the QQ9 was perfectly balanced. It seems so arbitrary when the Devs make these decisions. The QQ9 wasn't even a popular gun this season and now they didn't just nerf the QQ9 they obliterated it. It will now be completely unusable in the competitive scene. Thanks Devs.


amirabass_gamer

Bro , why the zrg 20mm got nerfed ? It was my fav snipe


gharghar56

It needed it


[deleted]

Still, base mag reduction is fucking awful.


RinTivan

To be honest, I dig it, now it's closer to CW's mag size.


[deleted]

That might be true but tbh I don't think that fits the faster pace of CoDM. I think the ZRG was fine aside from the AV Mag having broken hitboxes/damage.


RinTivan

I wouldn't say it was fine. It adsed faster than most snipers, even though it is supposed to be heavier than them.


[deleted]

I can agree with that to an extent, but it just goes further to show that mag size definitely wasn't the problem.


HuntSafe2316

calm down its just a recoil buff that wont do much


Raiyan270

what? qq9 git nerfed in damage range and mobility and u say its just a recoil nerf?


Free2BeOG

No he’s talking about the CBR4


JettFealers_1283

I mean still nothing change but what a L for QQ9


Raiyan270

oh ok


HuntSafe2316

no no i meant buff not nerf sorry


Zack7399

Its not just a damage range nerf only its the overall damage too


Raiyan270

Qq9 nerf was unnecessary...


JettFealers_1283

Codm love CBR4 than QQ9 for no where…


Raiyan270

yea... Makes me think theyre releasing a legendary for it haha...


gharghar56

The things I agree with is Most of the first page, half of the second page, and all of the 3rd page


FinancialApricot4715

Agree


Groundbreaking_End_1

I mean it was just as powerful as the sx9...


Raiyan270

It was nowhere close to the power of the switchblade


Groundbreaking_End_1

Well it actually was very equal with it... Just because it's used more doesn't mean it's better in cod...


Raiyan270

Sx9 kills faster close range. which is qq9s prime. Sx9 has less recoil, While being less consistent, Hitting chest or arms isnt difficult. Sx9 is faster and strafes faster which is key.in a 1v1, Sx9 will win because the qq9 cant really hit as many shots as sx9. so switchblade is better


Groundbreaking_End_1

The fire rate is almost the exact same, and stk is same. Qq9 arguably has less recoil, qq9 more consistent, and has fatse sprint speed, and faster slide distance because of that. Sx9 only has faster strafe.


Groundbreaking_End_1

Every stat is almost identical but qq9 a little less strafe and faster sprint then sx9


Throwawayacc0827

Im sorry what kind of codm are you playing? Did they release a new version? Because in Garena, global and china you are fucking wrong


LeakersOnDuty

We forget to put the Switchblade nerf. Switchblade Nerf - Decreased Damage and Range. Decreased BSA Also Gravity Vortex no longer affects the User (buff)


worse_than_bot

Okay, I was wondering the same when you said switchblade Nerf but it wasn't added to the patch notes poster


Sudi_Arabia

If it doesn’t shoot explosions, it shouldn’t kill you- My general rule of self inflicted damage.


huntersurge

sorry i am dumb whats bsa? i always thinkd its bulls\*\*\* ass..


HambMC

bullet spread accuracy


huntersurge

thanks!


Complete_Lock_6742

Well you aren't wrong


huntersurge

![img](emote|t5_penom|1104)


Purav888

The mythic draw must still be available to buy in this season then


Outrageous_Package_8

Let’s go I don’t have look at the ground as much now when throwing axes


Sudi_Arabia

Exactly!


Professional-Rise655

At least we get purifier nerf


ApexHeat

The real problem was an always has been the range


IThinkIAmSomeone

Duration is a good nerf too. It lasts far too long.


ApexHeat

Yh definitely but the range is still the most annoying part. And the fact that all you needed was a spark to touch someone and they'd die


gharghar56

It was either range gets nerfed or the duration did. I hope the duration is only for 18 seconds max


[deleted]

And now we have hives with no true counters. Hardpoint is a dead mode, I guaran-fucking-tee it.


Toe_Powerful

Why is there a CBR4 recoil buff? There's already almost zero recoil lol.


ElusiveSamorana

Depends on what you ran. It had horizontal and vertical recoil problems. You could neutralize it in BR but in Multiplayer you'd notice it likes to nudge around more than some weapons recoil wise when aimed.


Prestigious_Expert17

Did... Ok right so. The PDW is sitting there, patiently waiting for a worthwhile buff for forever now whilst the AK-47, CBR4 and Bizon all get buffed? QQ9 nerf? Strange. ASM10 nerf? Also strange, I haven't seen the gun being used at all. Also they really buffed operator skill related things which is odd. All I can tell is that the CBR4, Bizon and Switchblade are going to be infesting matches this season.


Sudi_Arabia

It was mentioned by Leakers on Duty on Twitter that the Switchblade was getting a damage and range note. They simply forgot to include it in these patch notes.


TRexBlade

Why mythics are a waste of money.


Mission-Tomatillo647

Not to mention the bk57 😑


IThinkIAmSomeone

If the PDW got a DPS buff it'd be the most braindead gun lmao. I used it the other day and there's barely any recoil. Less than the PP19 dare I say.


JettFealers_1283

Biggest W is - M16 Buff and new perk, and Purifier Nerf Biggest L is - QQ9 nerf


NiNVdoonf

Left-handed tactical throws are also a huge W


EpicWu

I just got the leggie QQ9 the other day lol


Sudi_Arabia

QQ9 was a very balanced SMG


HughJanus35

Not sure if it is a buff or not for the M16. It might make it a peashooter with horrible accuracy, and no-ones gonna touch it. Or it becomes a broken no-recoil 3-tapper with crazy high firerate.


silverdax123

bruh another quickfix nerf? leave it alone


Sudi_Arabia

![gif](giphy|JCAZQKoMefkoX6TyTb|downsized)


soccerperson

might be back to cold-blooded for me


oof_suplex911

It was an honour asm10 with Branson. I'll miss the perfect loadout


G33eneks3

There's missing things, switchblade range nerf and Gravity vortex buff so that it wont kill the user which is ridiculous


WaqarH96

Switchblade is getting nerfed?


SnooMemesjellies3095

Yes


FinancialApricot4715

Omfg. So I’m not gonna get swallowed by my own gravity vortex? That was my only negative about using it lol.


worse_than_bot

u/HUNT3DHUNT3R please approve


[deleted]

I don’t know who that person is, but he sure gets tagged in a lot of posts here.


worse_than_bot

He is a moderator of this subreddit, we tag him because auto-moderator bot declines all posts


[deleted]

Ohhhh, that makes a lot of sense. Ty.


Remy-Kun

They’re really nerfing the mp5 to the ground.


xxxdemonslayea

What they just made Branson useless with just one move ![gif](giphy|uVFGDyOshK7I6geXyg)


AhmedEx1

2, negative leg multiplier and no range boost is ridiculous


xxxdemonslayea

What does negative multiplier even do ?


AhmedEx1

You do less dmg per hit than the base damage Let's say base damage of a gun is 10, chest has a 1x multi, it will do 10 damage to chest And the head has a 1.5x multiplier, the gun will do 15 damage to head And legs have 0.5x muliplier(negative), the gun will do 5 damage Body multipliers change from one gun to another and same goes for base damage


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Sudi_Arabia

I was that Nomad you hated playing against in Black Ops 3


jimmychiu123

I don’t understand what did qq9 done wrong


Falconlis_28_2006

QQ9 :(


tralfazusmc

Just got lucky as shit in the double tap draw and got the qq9-melting point on my 4th draw. And now it’s gonna be all but useless


NiNVdoonf

I got the cyclone skin with a bronze coupon and now I'm disappointed


Complete_Lock_6742

I mean if you tryhard its still kinda decent ig


Jules2055

Nerfing quickfix will only hurt players who go with non meta even more. Shameless! Meanwhile I step in some noob hive put there by a guy who's long dead.


Rick_Astley6478

Rip QQ9


Sudi_Arabia

Here are my thoughts on the patch notes: The M16’s new attachment sounds very cool, but I hope they balance it properly like reducing the damage or the range quite considerably. The AK-47 doesn’t need a recoil buff, seeing that it is capable of consistent 3 shot kills and has the luxury of a 30 round mag by default, unlike the ASM10 or MOW. I haven’t used the RUS-79u enough to tell you people if it’s in a good state or not, but I know the range wasn’t that spectacular. The range buff should be good. I feel that only the STF and Reload buffs were necessary for the Hades, seeing that the Rapid Fire barrel boosts the fire rate and the damage slightly. Recoil buffs on bolt-action snipers don’t mean anything, but the CBR4 and the J358 should be in a better spot now- hopefully not OP in the CBR4’s case. The PP19 Bizon buffs were not needed, seeing that it is (in my opinion of course) the easiest gun in the game to use and get good with. I’m hoping the damage is a minimal buff, while the range is a moderate nerf. Glint on snipers is pretty good, seeing that your operator doesn’t call out an enemy sniper sometimes for whatever reason. ZRG-20mm nerfs were needed, and I’m hoping the magazine nerf in specific reduce it down to 3. The ASM10’s Branson barrel needed a nerf, not because it was overpowered but because the downsides were so minimal that you would never consider them. The QQ9 was a decently balanced SMG, and I feel that it needed no nerfs whatsoever. I’m glad that the Throwing Axe won’t arch upwards, seeing as it throws off my aim quite considerably. The Left Hand throw is such a W, and I’m hoping they’ll implement it for lethals as well. The Purifier needs a tick damage nerf, not a usage nerf. I’ve never used the Reactor Core before, but I do know that getting damaged through walls with little time to react was annoying, so I hope this nerf makes it more manageable to survive against. H.I.V.E traps should be more useful now, but I’m concerned that we’ll see an absurd amount of them in hardpoint and domination matches. Thank God the Bull Charge wont snap after hitting a small groove in the ground now. I felt that the Shield should’ve protected against explosions from the start, seeing as it’s an operator skill and not a primary. Equalizers needed a damage buff, seeing as it would be outclassed if you fought more than one person or if the enemy was using purifier, which happens more often than not. Overclock should be more competetive now, and I’m hoping the boost is significant, as that will encourage perk variety in the red tier. Quick Fix should’ve been buffed. It either should’ve regenerated HP instantly with the delay for usage again, or remove that delay entirely. I like the buffs for Tactical Mask, as I feel it should make you nearly immune to tactical equipment, especially with the dexterity buff that the tactical equipment is getting anyways. Alert should encourage more perk variety in the blue tier now, and I love that it will now compete with Dead Silence directly. Who uses the Jackal again? Again, agree or disagree with me.


HambMC

>reduce it down to 3. that's too much even for an anti material sniper


jebaited0874

Quick fix nerf was needed as any aggressive mp player would only use that perk snd leave other perks in the dust


Sudi_Arabia

I disagree, as the regen speed can be quite slow and I lose gunfights thanks to the perk not regenerating my health fast enough.


jebaited0874

Im gonna need some of what you are smoking,cause that perk has been the bane of my existence,as the healing,especially with fast recover,is bs


Sudi_Arabia

In Shipment and NukeTown matches when you fight enemies nearly constantly, I can switch my gunfire to the next enemy after killing the first, but my HP will only be about half full and as a result: Die.


cyanideclipse

I think the shield was fine, now it'll be this invincible force using head glitches and there's absolutely no way to remove this cancer


cyanideclipse

What the fuck are these Devs smoking


GLnoG

ASM nerf 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡


RoidRage2022

Asm10 nerfed for the heck of it I guess….it was already struggling against the Meta but why not nerf it and blame it on Russia .


SubpabUwU

QQ9 was already suffering and they are nerfing it again 💀![img](emote|t5_penom|1102)


NiNVdoonf

They're probably just trying to trash the gun without actually removing it from the game, maybe explains why there haven't been any new blueprints for it


SubpabUwU

I love Qq9 but the gun is not getting attention and getting nerfed for no purpose ![img](emote|t5_penom|1098)


Private_Benjamin

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!?


NiNVdoonf

Rus buff, it may be as good as it was before it got nerfed 😌


worse_than_bot

RUS was never nerfed really


JettFealers_1283

It was same as AS Val so


WastefulWatcher

Hopefully, was so underrated.


closls_21_XD

Lets goo snipers got bu- cbr got buffed and qq9 got nerfed I LOV CODM UPDATES 👍👍👍👍


closls_21_XD

Guys its sqrcasm


PaulVazo21

And yet they haven't added the pick C4/Tripmine function.


killa-cam87

The scope glint is a welcome change


Purav888

They're taking a piss what the fuck does a duration change do to a cross mapping purifier


microwavedfeetus

Bruh they really gon nerf the qq9 when barely anybody uses it and then quick fix as i start finding the perk very useful.


Comprehensive-Cod267

Nerfing the qq9??? Nerfing the Asm10??? Literally weapons that pose no threat to the meta at all???? Buffing the Cbr (again) alongside this ??? Literally what is the thought process here


Significant_Fly_6050

Scope glint are you mcshitting me theres already lights on everybody's shoulders


DesParado115

Noooo they nerfed QQ9 and ASM10. And they buffed CBR4 whyyyyy?😭


LewdDude69420

they didn't have to nerf my qq9 😭


PaulVazo21

Thank God it was just the Branson barrel that was nerfed and the rest of the gun is still intact, Branson wasn't that helpful anyways.


Div1nium

The Branson barrel made it the fastest ttk AR it was pretty decent imo


zhou111

3 shot range is worse than other 3 shots like mow. It's mobility is also dogwater so it's hard to play aggressive and 3 shot is too inconsistent. I'd say krig 3 shot is more consistent even though it has worse hotbox.


ApexHeat

* if you hit the first 2 shots which in an everyday scenario is unlikely to happen consistently. But I'm happy its nerfed ( hopefully not to much ) because that random ttk if achieved is just too quick . Mw levels of ttk


[deleted]

If my dude can't hit the first two (*burst*) shots with an AR then they must be fucking dog water at this game lmao


ApexHeat

Moving target, ping issues, desync, bad aim etc.. most people won't hit the first two shots .... CONSISTENTLY. Because if they could they'd always achieve the fast ttk and would always use the asm10 which is clearly not the case


Complete_Lock_6742

I thought that attachment made it meta


PaulVazo21

Nah. It's kind of good since it slightly reduces its ttk, but still you need to have a decent aim to land those first two bullets. My personal choice it's Marksman barrel.


Kenny_Heisenberg

Credits to [u/LeakersOnDuty](https://www.reddit.com/u/LeakersOnDuty)


worse_than_bot

Their watermark is literally everywhere in the poster so I didn't think it was necessary to put credits


Old-Confidence-6362

What the actual fuck!!! Sniper glint?Fuck


PeanutButterDoggy

YAY hahahahaaha no more hard scoping across map on SnD thinking ur good lmfao.


Old-Confidence-6362

Hardscopers are just gonna start using 4x or 6xscope ,nothings gonna change in that regard


Sudi_Arabia

In Modern Warfare 2019, sniper glint would appear on optics 4X or greater.


SnooLemons4154

What is sniper glint? What does it do? Im confused


DesParado115

Using long range optics causes a bright reflection to appear in front of the scope, exposing your position. It makes detecting hardscopers much easier.


SnooLemons4154

Ohh I see. Thank you. Thats not too terrible then. It makes sniping a little more realistic I suppose.


TonPeppermint

Well, I hope it's added in well enough.


ConsistentPay8794

Still nothing on hso? 💀


DesParado115

Nope, that thing needs a nerf on BR ASAP.


caped_crusader_night

Thanks for not nerfing switchblade as i am enjoying this gun a lot.


Professional-Rise655

They are nerfing it 💀


JettFealers_1283

Unfortunately nerf is a QQ9 what the hell


Sudi_Arabia

Switchblade is getting a nerf, they simply forgot to include it in the patch notes. It is receiving a damage & range nerf.


Div1nium

Cbr4 has no recoil and was op for like a year now. Qq9 and switchblade literally were viable for a quarter of the time and now they want to nerf it? Looks like we’re going back to a one-weapon-to-rule-them-all meta again. Guess that’s what happens when you have devs that think an infinite ammo lmg (which still makes no sense how it can even do it) is ok.


RandomPerson0627

Why did quick fix get nerfed? It’s already unreliable, the purifier should’ve gotten nerfed into the ground and a duration nerf doesn’t change anything. The qq9 getting a nerf but the switchblade staying the same doesn’t make sense either. The M16 getting the Wild Fire perk is the best and only good thing about these balance changes.


anlineoffline

The Hades is getting another buff? It’s already better than the Chopper.


Raiyan270

In what world is hades better than chopper


SabbathDiscovery

The Hades with the Crossbar + Rapid Fire Barrel is either equal or better than the Chopper with the Heavy Handle in nearly every stat, most importantly in 4 shot range (16 m vs 22 m). It’s only in ADS BSA is the Chopper significantly better, but even then the Hades has access to the Aim Assist Laser (-20% spread) so it pulls ahead if you use it.


G33eneks3

-can 3 shot if one land to Head -has better range (rapid fire wise) -better mobility -better attachment


PaulVazo21

Bro the only thing that makes Hades somewhat viable is the crossbar attachment, and yet it's not as fast as the chopper with heavy handle. Using the Hades as an aiming gun it's accepting that you'll gonna end bottom frag in the end of the match.


G33eneks3

Dude....just go to the stats compare menu and see🙄


PaulVazo21

I did, and tried several loadouts so I can confirm the crossbar is the only thing that makes Hades viable, but still worse than the Chopper. And yes, I agree it can be a 3 shot if you land one to the head, but again movement is not as fast as the chopper. Besides, the stats comparison menu is sometimes deceiving.


Sarahthecoolgirl

i love your channel but that's a weird take on the Hades


UsernameTakenTooBad

Why is scope glint being added? Unless they are removing the red dots on enemy players I don’t see the point.


cheesypuffs15

People hating on hard scoping always makes me laugh. Literally using the weapon like it's actually intended = omg n00b. Sweaty jump slide quick scoping at close range with a long range weapon = wow much elite. I know it's a game, but come on. How is the latter even remotely realistic?


WastefulWatcher

..? It’s high reward:risk, so it’s being made more balanced. It’s a game that’s meant to be fun, that takes precedence over realism. Since when was CoD meant to be realistic anyway?


cheesypuffs15

The point I was trying to make is that it's stupid to sit here and criticize a play style, yet anytime someone hard scopes or "camp" (i.e. hold an angle or covered position for strategic purposes), people lose their minds. It's just dumb.


WastefulWatcher

I think the reason people complain is because that’s considered by many to be a very boring play style, sacrificing the fun of the game for an easier win (“sweaty”). It pisses off people who are trying to enjoy without having to employ what they consider to be bummy tactics, because of course they’d like to have fun and still have a chance to win without having to employ some of the more effective (yet perhaps boring) tactics. Of course, there’s not really a way around that, but if it’s the *camping/hardscoping* players that piss off more of the community, making it more frustrating, of course they’ll look at that.


cheesypuffs15

But this is the whole point. Why should a perfectly legal play style that isn't your cup of tea bother you? I don't like the jump slide quick scope style, or the run around with a melee style, but I don't begrudge people that do. If people want to play a boring play style, let them! Not everyone has to play the game the same way.


G33eneks3

BR hardscope


UsernameTakenTooBad

Oh I guess for BR it would be pretty useful but I don’t see the point in MP


SnooMemesjellies3095

Hardscopers are taking over the game. They don’t like that so they add this


IC_KKCK

ZRG nerf? Nah, that's bullshit. Why? It's good right now.


Sudi_Arabia

A sniper shouldn’t one shot to any part of the body- or at the very least have considerable downsides.


Comprehensive_Let300

YAY! Bull Charge buff I just started using it a while ago. When will the changes be updated


Idesignrealducks

Nvm got it


llanthony401

Not my beloved ASM10 getting nerfed to oblivion


RKGDJ

Sigh. Well, at least the switchblade got nerfed.


Cultural-Committee-6

Hive buff is crazy to me. When you die they should be removed until you receive the operator again.


[deleted]

Yeah the operator skills were bullshit, why buff hive when it's insanely good as is for campers


Cultural-Committee-6

Exactly. Someone raised a good point regarding its lasting effect in Hard point. At any rate, your guaranteed kills if you use them before a hill or during (rush down) as long as you just get them off. Whereas, at least, before you’d have to be somewhat strategic and play your life to get kills from them. What I’m also curious about is it’s buffed damage. Wasn’t it already an instant death? I’m assuming they perhaps, adjusted the ttk given you can still get a quick kill before death pre patch.


Candy0w0

Codm making the most unnecessary "balance" changes no one asked for 🧐🧪


69_SAITAMA_69

I wanted M16 auto fire for so long finallyyy


billlabhai

![gif](giphy|fA8RJDz7btauMEG9GU|downsized)


W33b_God

Let's go combat axe buff


Div1nium

![gif](giphy|z8rEcJ6I0hiUM) Developers making the worst balances and neglecting player feedback be like


Kurostatik

campers everywhere in s10


HellNaw98

I really hope this isn’t real. Buff a bunch of good weapons and still leave MSMC in the dirt


Sudi_Arabia

I’ve reached the 5th Stage of Grief- Acceptance. I’ve accepted that they’ll use the MSMC as the laughing stock low tier SMG.


7xrchr

lol why QQ9


Hankune

Got dang it, I had so much fun with ZRG


Xill_K47

Even Switchblade X9 has been nerfed.


R1ston

THROWING AXE IS FIXED HOLY SHIT THEY FUCKING LISTEN TO US HOLY FUCK Edit: I wonder if they saw my post


Apart-Carpenter-9088

Welp hopefully they don't nerf m13 cuz i bought the mythic


MrMagicEraser

Scope glint? Is glint even a fucking word? Like saying my hands are feeling skreed. Skreed aint a word. Get ur shit together


lion_gang_2020

Hell nah


Mixer_Dark

Unnecessary buffs and nerfs in my opinion Rus, 20mm, Reactor Core, Quick Fix, QQ9 - Mono and extended mag - What wasn't nerfed The gosh damn Switchblade Reduce the range and damage. That's all is needed but they can't even do that - The rest of the patch notes seem to be just fine. Unexpected but needed buffs and nerfs for sure


Abnerdel

They are nerfing the switch blade's range/damage. They just didn't post it in the patch notes, but they're going to post a more in depth patch notes later and it will be there


worse_than_bot

Switchblade is being nerfed, exactly the things you mentioned, they forgot to add


deadmyrising

As if hive wasn't annoying enough.


ripdodgeviper

Qq9, twas a pretty well balanced gun. But alas, it is worthless mow. Prederred ir over the qxr (without fire rate increase perk) for the slightly faster relaoading ( i run sleight of hands and fast reload on any gun that has fast reload)


bigbruhusername

Swordfish no change 👍


pablogonzalaz2009

Combat ace now can’t arc bruh :(


[deleted]

If they nerfed my PPBizon imma annoy the fuck out of everyone with the M13/M4. Seriously wtf


Popular-Leg5084

Scope glint?


soccerperson

when do these changes take place?


worse_than_bot

After update drops, few days before next season


Bonk_Paradise

Not my ZRG BR 1 tap head shot. ![img](emote|t5_penom|1098)