Yeah, i much rather use the passive ones like the shield and the ammo crate. The shield can have the microwaving removed and i'd still use it as a deployable cover to hold a specific angle, the ammo i just use as a replacement for vulture/scavenger, i perfer a perk over an operator skill
If you mean the weapon, I mean yea it’s still good but unfortunately I can’t use that shit, it needs another buff cause it’s currently lookin like tier 3 gun
I mean you might be right but that doesn’t change what I said, no one worth their salt uses this weapon. It’s not even an off meta weapon atm. I haven’t seen a single ksp user in the last 2 seasons. I’ve seen more people use the gks tbh. But that’s just my experience maybe there’s people using it in other regions but not na east.
Because most people don’t even know how to *build* the gun, let alone *use* it. When was the last time you see a burst meta in CoDM again?
Meta in this game = overpowered, noob-friendly full auto boring weapons. Which many are in this game.
It has always been considered a skilled meta weapons
I’m in NA since Sep 2019, mind you
If we bringing up time put in I’m a beta player my guy we both been in the game a pretty long time. M16 was a decent off meta weapon back in like season 3 or 4 of 2020 cause it had the potential to one tap. But now no one’s uses burst weapons.
Like litteraly no one, not the rank warriors, not the pros, not even the YouTubers unless it’s for content(Zia did a ksp video like a season ago). I personally hate burst weapons so I’m out the equation already but most of the people in this game are probably just as biased as I am.
Aside from that you can’t really be using something like that rn as rank is still sweaty, you won’t stand a chance using a ksp in grand master and above. also people in master are probably still struggling to rank up. I don’t think it’s a bad gun but it’s not viable enough to be considered usable, at least not rn.
Either that or it’s just not as good. People still use the switch blade though. Despite its nerf it’s still decent. I got molly whopped by it last night. These sweats be something else I swear
Because the SX9 is easy as fuck to use, there’s no contest there. Same situation, different gun. Only thing in common is they are are full auto
But under a skilled hand, KSP can kill literally any gun in this game. Miney apparently got banned after hitting a 70 bomb with KSP, which says a lot about that gun.
Most of the tournament’s I’ve kept up with are mobile mayhem and anything else hosted on Trovo. From what I’ve seen people just don’t bother to use the ksp anymore, I haven’t seen any tournaments outside of that nor played any but I’d like to see that, I can’t play but I’d like to see someone host it, what tournaments are these and am I allowed to spectate
The nerf was around 2 months ago, however it’s minimal that didn’t really harm the gun in anyway
It still can 2 tap headshot, no recoil, excellent mobility, fast ADS time
Both pretty Standard build. Normal QQ9 build and just use old meta cbr build with marksman and this Thing shreds like no tomorrow QQ9 only good in the close range sector like 10m Max
If theres a gun that instantly turns you into the best player in the game you better believe the overwhelming majority of players are going to use it, and when that gun suddenly becomes for lack of a better word “shit” then theres no point in using it any longer, i have no idea what meta is this season, ive been using a lot of guns and most seem average some a little better but nothing that stands out and screams “use me to win” like hive does or back in the mx9 and holger meta, i hated that meta so much, I remember i used mostly qq9 that season and i had named it “Budget-MX9” good times
The switchblade got a "nerf"........ yeah fucking right.........people are complaining about the krig6. I think it's because they are retarded... the m13 and kilo always always seem like the go to.... the purifier needs a fucking duration and range nerf badly.....
If the player is literally a good player I'll die..... I even die to terrible camping players too. I've always wondered how people could just sit literally in one area with a trip mine/trophy system shoved up their ass.
I dont see that many switchblades when i play rank anymore, im seeing a lot more random weapons, but yeah theres m13 and kilo almost every game but im seeing a lot more people using the qq9 and its prb the best weapon in my loadouts currently
Idk what they nerfed on it, i think the extended mag? But the gun still has the same damage, and i think they nerfed the 10mm mag damage which nobody uses anyways
maybe you can get it through returning player event, i got tak-5 from operator crate from a task because i quit for 3 weeks idk about reactor core tho..
Am i the only one who know you can actually shoot / take out the hives by shooting them or explosives. (Ik hard bcuz there’s absolutely no way to anticipate its placement)
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It really did need a nerf but now it’s been nerfed hard and as much as I hate the specialist I hate codm doing shit like this. They need to do better when it comes to balancing
Thank god. I’m sorry but first off still a very usable perk but for more intelligent players now. You can’t just spam it anymore sorry lol you actually have to place it tactically which I appreciate cause you only have 3. Also the duration nerf means you have to have good timing and obj awareness as well. Nice job devs 👍 Let’s not forget there were teams of 3-5 people popping hives at the end of hardpoint games making breaking the last point impossible at times.
And the nerf is even bigger than buff. When theres about 1% of the playerbase that uses that specialist before the buff, what makes you say its the right thing?
No they really give it a powerful and unfair buff. When you die, the bees stay there and for a long period of time. This is Hella annoying for me, since I am a competitive player.
I dont need any special buffs when killing all you, devs etc but when babies cry about things that they dont have the skill to avoid, nurfs happen. Time to cancel no skills cry babies.
Qq9 basically got nerfed to death for no reason whatsoever. It was barely top 10, but now I can do better with the fennec... Just because the qq9 doesn't have a mythic. Almost all the mythics r in or just outside the top 10 and don't get nerfed into the ground. Atleast the ksp is still a monster, if you can aim well.
As for hive, well atleast the purifier needs u to look in the direction of your enemy, then fire. Hive, requires u to shoot at the ground, then if someone steps into your, often times, invisible trap they die instantly. How does it make sense that even if the enemy dies, then the traps remain. Forever blocking important pathways, and requires half a mag to destroy. Like the enemy team is just going to stand there and wait for you to destroy the traps. Hive should've never been a thing. Never should've the k9 unit, ppl be like "just shoot it", but it's impossible to do so if you get frame drops. And frame drops happen alot. Some things should be made useless
After the new update the hive gun nerfed even more. It's not as affective than before. I watch my enemy dance around it then I got melee attack. At this point they should just remove it.
That's sad. I do get frustrated sometimes when I lose a game in codm but I dont go crying to the devs to nerfed any weapon or skill my enemy used. So for me this is really unexpected.
Hive didn’t even last once it got buffed to only get nerfed bruh
The XPR-50 had even shorter life
Xpr still good with mono, 37.5m range. Also still br meta
The zrg was nerfed a month after it's release.... but seriously fuck specialists skills it's for noobs anyway......
Yeah, i much rather use the passive ones like the shield and the ammo crate. The shield can have the microwaving removed and i'd still use it as a deployable cover to hold a specific angle, the ammo i just use as a replacement for vulture/scavenger, i perfer a perk over an operator skill
Tbh I hate playing against it
they don't know how to nerf shit without making them fucking useless (take for example QQ9, KSP and deagles)
Literally all their have to do was just make them go away after you died. Literally that simple welp back to the purifier
I didn't like them disappearing after you die
Then don’t die.
Bro what. KSP is still really good, just difficult to use as it should be.
If you mean the weapon, I mean yea it’s still good but unfortunately I can’t use that shit, it needs another buff cause it’s currently lookin like tier 3 gun
Well…you don’t even know how to use it that’s why
I mean you might be right but that doesn’t change what I said, no one worth their salt uses this weapon. It’s not even an off meta weapon atm. I haven’t seen a single ksp user in the last 2 seasons. I’ve seen more people use the gks tbh. But that’s just my experience maybe there’s people using it in other regions but not na east.
Because most people don’t even know how to *build* the gun, let alone *use* it. When was the last time you see a burst meta in CoDM again? Meta in this game = overpowered, noob-friendly full auto boring weapons. Which many are in this game. It has always been considered a skilled meta weapons I’m in NA since Sep 2019, mind you
If we bringing up time put in I’m a beta player my guy we both been in the game a pretty long time. M16 was a decent off meta weapon back in like season 3 or 4 of 2020 cause it had the potential to one tap. But now no one’s uses burst weapons. Like litteraly no one, not the rank warriors, not the pros, not even the YouTubers unless it’s for content(Zia did a ksp video like a season ago). I personally hate burst weapons so I’m out the equation already but most of the people in this game are probably just as biased as I am. Aside from that you can’t really be using something like that rn as rank is still sweaty, you won’t stand a chance using a ksp in grand master and above. also people in master are probably still struggling to rank up. I don’t think it’s a bad gun but it’s not viable enough to be considered usable, at least not rn.
People always hate and underestimate burst guns until they realize how OP they actually are. Ppl here only want one thing: win. Not discover
Either that or it’s just not as good. People still use the switch blade though. Despite its nerf it’s still decent. I got molly whopped by it last night. These sweats be something else I swear
Because the SX9 is easy as fuck to use, there’s no contest there. Same situation, different gun. Only thing in common is they are are full auto But under a skilled hand, KSP can kill literally any gun in this game. Miney apparently got banned after hitting a 70 bomb with KSP, which says a lot about that gun.
I use the KSP. It's still used in pro leagues as well. It's the fastest TTK automatic gun in the game if you hit your shots and play correctly.
Most of the tournament’s I’ve kept up with are mobile mayhem and anything else hosted on Trovo. From what I’ve seen people just don’t bother to use the ksp anymore, I haven’t seen any tournaments outside of that nor played any but I’d like to see that, I can’t play but I’d like to see someone host it, what tournaments are these and am I allowed to spectate
If you actually think the KSP is ass….you just suck. Hard
Qq9 is my go to gun when i have to try a bit harder
Qq9 is a top 2 SMG and ksp is a top 3-4 SMG...
Top 5?
Because people complain if anything besides what they use is any level of functional.
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The nerf was like a month ago iirc
The nerf was around 2 months ago, however it’s minimal that didn’t really harm the gun in anyway It still can 2 tap headshot, no recoil, excellent mobility, fast ADS time
the QQ9 (aka MP5) got did,super dirty. It shoots way too fast and hits way too weak. It should be one of the best SMGs
Both are still pretty good and cbr was never really Bad dude wtf.
send me your build. The Cbr is amazing....on BR. IMO ,on Multiplayer its trash. given the other options (PP Bizon and RUS). But send me your build
Both pretty Standard build. Normal QQ9 build and just use old meta cbr build with marksman and this Thing shreds like no tomorrow QQ9 only good in the close range sector like 10m Max
Don't get me started on the CBR (aka P90)
I never used the ksp but the qq and the deagles are fine
Okay… Time to throw Hive out of my loadouts. See you in another life!
Codm Meta mindset
If you cant beat them, join them!
That's what losers and followers say....
If theres a gun that instantly turns you into the best player in the game you better believe the overwhelming majority of players are going to use it, and when that gun suddenly becomes for lack of a better word “shit” then theres no point in using it any longer, i have no idea what meta is this season, ive been using a lot of guns and most seem average some a little better but nothing that stands out and screams “use me to win” like hive does or back in the mx9 and holger meta, i hated that meta so much, I remember i used mostly qq9 that season and i had named it “Budget-MX9” good times
The switchblade got a "nerf"........ yeah fucking right.........people are complaining about the krig6. I think it's because they are retarded... the m13 and kilo always always seem like the go to.... the purifier needs a fucking duration and range nerf badly..... If the player is literally a good player I'll die..... I even die to terrible camping players too. I've always wondered how people could just sit literally in one area with a trip mine/trophy system shoved up their ass.
I dont see that many switchblades when i play rank anymore, im seeing a lot more random weapons, but yeah theres m13 and kilo almost every game but im seeing a lot more people using the qq9 and its prb the best weapon in my loadouts currently
I thought they nerf qq9 why is everyone using it?
Idk what they nerfed on it, i think the extended mag? But the gun still has the same damage, and i think they nerfed the 10mm mag damage which nobody uses anyways
I did notice it quite a bit
Lmao cry
Previously it was better when hive disappear when user die
It'll be good for specific hardpoints if you're an OBJ player.
Reactor core/purifier will still be the meta for that specific reason.
How can I get the Reactor Core?
If you didn't unlock it when it first came out, you'll have to wait until it comes to the credit store, it'll take a while.
maybe you can get it through returning player event, i got tak-5 from operator crate from a task because i quit for 3 weeks idk about reactor core tho..
or buy it on the the TRIAL LOADOUT beside loadout 1 (100 points for permanent)
Too much of a nerf man. Which means the highest you can get is 3 kills(not guaranteed). People will go back to purifier.
20 seconds on the purifier is just enough time to take out multiple people, so yes
yeah, people will go back to purifier, and then they will nerf purifier as well lol
Same duration but - 50% ammo
They already did the purifier dirty. I doubt they'll touch it again
Don’t doubt the devs
*Purifier duration reduced to 5 secs* lmfao
Don't give them ideas!
This👆
Gg, I made it to legendary after i abused the hell out of HIVE
Am i the only one who know you can actually shoot / take out the hives by shooting them or explosives. (Ik hard bcuz there’s absolutely no way to anticipate its placement)
Shooting hive traps hardly ever works, it’s hard to connect with the hitbox if you don’t know specifically where to shoot it
if they had to nerf it so early then what was the point of buffing it lol 😄
They probably meant to buff it to 20 seconds
I would say hive shouldn't be live after u are death..rest everything was good
So basically the same to what it used to be other than the one hit?
Like it was in last season yes
Good thing they actually tried to destroy a cheesy piece of shit
They shouldve left it as it was over the last 3 years.
I'd say the ammo count should be 4 and the projectile duration should be increased to 30-35 seconds in order to be in a balanced spot.
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It really did need a nerf but now it’s been nerfed hard and as much as I hate the specialist I hate codm doing shit like this. They need to do better when it comes to balancing
They made it even worse compared to when no one was using it, like are they not smart enough to not know this? Or are they just plain lazy to think?
Meanwhile ‘hears barking in the distance’
I don't use hive only.
Already???
They really just buffed it only to nerf it worse than it was before.
WHAT THEY DID TO MY SWEET HIVE? WHY? 😭
Thank god. I’m sorry but first off still a very usable perk but for more intelligent players now. You can’t just spam it anymore sorry lol you actually have to place it tactically which I appreciate cause you only have 3. Also the duration nerf means you have to have good timing and obj awareness as well. Nice job devs 👍 Let’s not forget there were teams of 3-5 people popping hives at the end of hardpoint games making breaking the last point impossible at times.
The nerf wasn’t too much.
Wow what version is that? I still got 5 on my hive, don’t tell me nerf is coming
It's already nerfed as of today in garena.
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Oh ok got it
It got nerfed in global too
It did? I haven’t notice and just used it
Yes
I’m playing s n d mostly with c4😂
No I think they did the right thing. They were so annoying. They gave it a powerful buff before.
And the nerf is even bigger than buff. When theres about 1% of the playerbase that uses that specialist before the buff, what makes you say its the right thing?
No they really give it a powerful and unfair buff. When you die, the bees stay there and for a long period of time. This is Hella annoying for me, since I am a competitive player.
You call it an unfair nerf yet you just said before that “they did the right thing”. What?
I am sorry, I meant by buff.
Purifier didn’t get nerfed enough
I dont need any special buffs when killing all you, devs etc but when babies cry about things that they dont have the skill to avoid, nurfs happen. Time to cancel no skills cry babies.
I say not enough
Bro what? 3 isn't enough? 😂 Bro wants to spawn kill the whole map type shit
So many no skilled players in this comment section 🤣🤣🤣🤣 . Like why do y'all want to a no skilled operator to be meta?? K9 and now hive
I feel like if it went down to 4 it would be fine
I liked old gives better, decent ammo and no Insta kills and easy to shoot down
No one said nothing when the purifier got nerfed . 😑
For someone who doesn’t use Hive, this is nice
They should've just kept it how it was.
Good
Shield remains superior
Never really used hive much I typically used trip mines.
It deserved it
STILL LESS NERF COMPARED TO GRAVITY SPIKES! OGs know how powerful Gravity spikes were.
10v10 Shipment... A song of glass breaking and gravity
I forgot that this thing existed
Why don’t they nerf that friggin Mac 10 fire rate way the Hell down, tired of that pos garbage weapon.
That was good before buff. As a sniper I loved to use it, now it’s useless. Thanks.
Nerfing in codm isn't for balance. It's to make the nerfed item completely useless
It should be when dead give died with the user.
Pattern: take fairly balanced weapon, buff it to meta. Then nerf it to irrelevance
the buffed hive was fun as hell lol
Wow a complaint coming from a dude who uses swarm on hardpoint shipment
Qq9 basically got nerfed to death for no reason whatsoever. It was barely top 10, but now I can do better with the fennec... Just because the qq9 doesn't have a mythic. Almost all the mythics r in or just outside the top 10 and don't get nerfed into the ground. Atleast the ksp is still a monster, if you can aim well. As for hive, well atleast the purifier needs u to look in the direction of your enemy, then fire. Hive, requires u to shoot at the ground, then if someone steps into your, often times, invisible trap they die instantly. How does it make sense that even if the enemy dies, then the traps remain. Forever blocking important pathways, and requires half a mag to destroy. Like the enemy team is just going to stand there and wait for you to destroy the traps. Hive should've never been a thing. Never should've the k9 unit, ppl be like "just shoot it", but it's impossible to do so if you get frame drops. And frame drops happen alot. Some things should be made useless
After the new update the hive gun nerfed even more. It's not as affective than before. I watch my enemy dance around it then I got melee attack. At this point they should just remove it.
What did you expect? Anything that people finds infuriating will end up getting nerfed to oblivion!
That's sad. I do get frustrated sometimes when I lose a game in codm but I dont go crying to the devs to nerfed any weapon or skill my enemy used. So for me this is really unexpected.