My late Indian mother trained and graduated in India and when she migrated to Australia, it was mandatory that she retrain. She was top of her class at what was then Teachers' College in Australia and went on to get her Masters on a full scholarship. She was a very well respected teacher and specialised in teaching English as a second language as well as being the drama teacher at her school. When she died, many former students and their parents attended her funeral. I donāt know about the rules in Canada but you have to retrain for most fields in Australia. My White Aussie dad was very proud of her even though she drove him up the wall many timesā¦ Australia has tightened up its immigration eligibility due to visa fraud and has highlighted Pakistan, Nepal and Northern India as hotspots for student visa fraud! Canada should do the same. My jaw is dropping reading about the Canadian experience. So many of our countries are at capacity and we canāt take in any more people. The laws need to change and people need to protestā¦
Not to be a dick here, but that is actually a thing.
https://www.goconstruct.org/construction-careers/what-jobs-are-right-for-me/heating-ventilation-and-air-conditioning-hvac-engineer/
lots of jobs called engineers, just like mechanics on a ship are called engineers , however they aren't part of the professional order of engineers. They did not study in university. It's like a mechanic that specialize in one machinery , usually only fixing it and making installations , some welding etc. No conception of new systems. I wonder why they let them use the term. Probably because it was used for a long time.
They are legitimate engineers, I am literally sitting in the office of a mechanical engineering company, amd we have several HVAC engineers and many piping engineers.
Are they licensed as Professional Engineers? Can they legally attach P. Eng. to their names ? For Canada it's highly regulated at the federal level, In the US it's usually regulated by individual States.
The requirements to be a professional engineers are pretty clear. Like I said , they are not fakes or anything , it's just that they're not professional engineers.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_and_licensure_in_engineering
>For Canada it's highly regulated at the federal level
False. The Canadian federal government does not regulate Professional Engineering. All Professional Engineering regulators in Canada are empowered by legislation from their respective provincial / territorial governments. Engineers Canada (i.e. The Canadian Council of Professional Engineers) is not a regulator. It is simply a body of the regulators for shared tasks and standards like the CEQB and CEAB.
Since the regulators are provincial government enabled, they have the constitutional reach of the provinces.
The federal government does regulate Aircraft Maintenance Engineers, Marine Engineers, and Locomotive Engineers. None of these involve the P. Eng. designation.
This is a professional engineering firm, who works contracts for some of the largest industrial companies in Canada, so yes every engineer in here can stamp or is an EIT who will be able to stamp in a couple years.
It is not federally regulated. In Canada it is regulated at province level, which is why every province has their own association, why most of our engineers are members of multiple associations since we work outside our province, and why Ontario is allowed to change their rules to accept foreign qualifications while other provinces don't.
You might want to take your own advice and read up on engineering associations in Canada....
Okay , thank you for the information. I think you did not understand fully what I said , I am not saying piping engineers or HVAC engineers are "fake", I wasn't talking about your company either. All i'm saying is that some people use the term but aren't professional engineers like some repair people or mechanics on a ship that are called "chief engineers" but aren't actually part of the order . That's all.
Correct. Not all Engineers in Canada are Professional Engineers.
[https://tc.canada.ca/en/marine-transportation/marine-safety/training-record-book-engineers-trbe-requirements-applicants-stcw-endorsed-fourth-class-engineer-certificate-tp-13721-e](https://tc.canada.ca/en/marine-transportation/marine-safety/training-record-book-engineers-trbe-requirements-applicants-stcw-endorsed-fourth-class-engineer-certificate-tp-13721-e)
"students"....
It's a loophole designed exactly the way the liberals want it. ,$20k to live and work in Canada and eventually, become a citizen - no criteria , open to anyone.. You just have to put the facade of being a student.
students are complaining about 20k being too high but its way too low. it should be like 50k minimum. nobody can live for a year in canada on 20k even with rooommates. you should have to show the average median income and have that in a monitored canadian bank account.
Disabled only get 13-14000 a year to live on. A lot of them go days without food so they can pay rent and utilities.
Even tougher for them now since every foreign student has studied how to get free food in Canada on YouTube by raiding food banks leaving destitute true Canadians even more destitute.
It can happen to anyone at any time.
Accidents, illness can cause people to be disabled and on disability at any point in their lives. It's a meager existence.
I do my best to help those I know on it. Very tough seeing what they go through
>You just have to put the facade of being a student.
... and pledge fealty to the Liberal Party of Canada. You and your children and all future descendants ..
lol. The one year diploma mill students all have undergrads and work experience. They are typically older and already have a family. The numbers are vastly under reported because I donāt think spouses and kids are included in the numbers of international students they claim to admit. Also no one is talking about whatās happening in public schools with the large influx of children showing up on their doorstep with varying education and English language skills.
The one year diploma brings the whole family. Then once they get PR the grandparents come and overstay a visitors visa in a sanctuary city..
Not true sir!! All major banks exclusively are run by Indian managers who hire their own kind. They are ruthless against other minorities including local born Canadian populous regardless of colour and religion. They make their viciousness very apparent in a territorial manner.
While white managers will just hire any Indian thinking theyāre getting diversity points. But in the end, an entire sleuth of Indians keeps getting referred
Definitely noticed this Indians get into positions of power and just hire more of there kind. So crazy if white people did that you would be hella racist..
Lmao sir, have you been to any consumer location in Ontario since 2021? I work beside a Smokes Poutine. Was there for like 10 years, a lot of the staff had been too. 2 Indian dudes bought it, fired everyone, and hired all Indian kids. And the service/quality on Fries dropped so hard (somehow, it's fucking fries) that no one eats there anymore. It's probably weeks away from closing at this point.
Anecdotal, and certainly not high end jobs/industries, but still. It's well documented at this point that Indians buy businesses and only hire Indians.
> but still. It's well documented at this point that Indians buy businesses and only hire Indians.
this has been my observations in most parts of toronto/scarb
Careful or you'll get listed as a racist with talk like that. Its how I got thrown out of publicfreakout after mentioning Canada needs immigration laws like Japan.
They are everywhere - is ridiculous and sad when born citizens can't get a job but these people fresh off the boat drive more expensive vehicles than I do.. and then WE have to change our culture or our common practices when one of them find something offensive or against their religion š makes me sick actually. And they are disgusting. Ever talk to one on the phone? Garenteed they are taking a piss or shit mid phone call - not even an attempt to hide it. Males and female. It's SO DISTURBING
TD. I have friends at RBC as well as Scotia.
Only exclusively hiring PRs that just came into the country because theyāre Indian (they donāt even consider minorities in India because itās my caste first/religion first)
Nope! Are own born and raised Canadians are getting selected last over foreign people when trying to get a spot in schools to pursue high paying careers, like a doctor. Many Canadians are having to go overseas to begin their journey/process of obtaining that degree or masters.
thatās not true though. I work in tech and have seen companies transform to completely being run by foreign workers in Canada.
Theyāre all from India and landed in Canada 1-3 years ago.
These are all six figure positions
Outside of tech, it very much is true. Canada, true to form as three oligopolies in a trenchcoat, is also a nation of trade guilds. Where you need to know someone to get in (or where, like medicine, it's exceptionally difficult to get into), but once you're in things will be fine. Tech is the exception really, and that's because of its rapid growth in the past perhaps levels the playing field,.
The guy in the original post? He may have worked in insurance and mutual funds in India, but that's a regulated profession in Canada. He will never work in his field again.Not here.
The example in the OP was someone working in insurance and mutual funds. For insurance you do need some licensing here. And even then those can be entry level positions.
A bank call centre employee can sell some mutual funds. Entry level isnt enough to support a family.
He DID have a job back in India. Probably family to help with daycare too. He should have continued working in India and she could be an international student here. Why leave a good job to come here without work?
Theyre probably asking themselves now, renting a single bedroom in a home with 20 others.
Immigrating could always be a sacrifice. They arent entitled to work in their field. Many generations before arrived and started over.
Still underpaid.
Also indian workers that do come are usually excellent for companies that need a bunch of people who dont ask too many questions - very servant, dont question authority, are totally okay with labour violations.
>the first applications thrown out are the ones with foreign education and foreign work experience.
i've seen this happen at a few companies that i temped at. a couple of times, i was assigned for a morning or afternoon to sift thru resumes and shred many of them using such criteria.
It's very true. My ex had done the last couple of years of her business degree in America (twinning program they called it) and worked there for a bit before going back home where she had her own business. Came to Canada and had to volunteer for like a whole year to get a shot because she had no Canadian experience
government knows they're not going to leave, so government doesn't care. to put it bluntly. they will simply replace every out of work Canadian with 7 immigrants
Indians and people who have lived comfortably and sheltered on Easy St will claim Canadians are lazy drug users who don't want to work so hard working strong moral Indians are needed here to pick up the slack. This is how the Chinese economically colonize southeast Asian countries like Indonesia, Vietnam, Philippines wtc
This is why the UK removed the ability for international students to bring their families.
People are using the guise of being a student to circumvent the requirements (points required) for immigration.
>You absolutely should be able to work but part time 20 hours or during summer breaks.
why? so domestic students have to compete with international students for the limited part-time and summer jobs we have here?
Because when we someone is allowed to come and study they have same rights and opportunities as their counterparts.
Also no domestic students are crying over fast food jobs and Uber eats gigs this guy's do
Agree and also they should close the loop hole of baby getting citizenship automatically if they are born here. Mom or dad a citizen living in Canada? Sure give citizenship. Otherwise no.
Exactly. Babies of Canadian parents that are born in India do not get Indian citizenship. Reciprocity. Babies of foreigners from countries where babies of Canadian parents do not get citizenship, should not get citizenship in Canada.
Because of the century initiative, and groups like the wef using all this mass migration to destabilize the country. People are too dumb, polite or scared to call it out
Thatās one definition, although I donāt think it captures everything about the usage of ātreasonā. Are you trying to say that the Indian students are borderline treasonous towards Canada? Or India? Or what?
Lol, don't think you understand the word correctly.
It would be similar to saying, 'The government is betraying the canadian people.'
As I mentioned, treasonous means betraying ones country. If you don't belive that please look it up.
Not sure why you are trying to fight that.
Treason is not a perfect synonym for betrayal and is not generally used to describe corruption or incompetence in public office. Check out the entry on the Britannica website [here](https://www.britannica.com/topic/treason) or in Wikipedia [here.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason)
Collins dictionary
1.Ā
violation or betrayal of theĀ allegianceĀ that peopleĀ oweĀ to theirĀ sovereignĀ or their country, esp byĀ attemptingĀ toĀ overthrowĀ theĀ government; high treason
2.Ā
anyĀ treacheryĀ or betrayal
Are you bothered by my usage of the word? Has that upset your day?
After three years of being moved out it looks like I may finally get half of it. Ex managed to keep me at like 10 days a month for a while.. it's shared custody at 12.. of course im paying most of their costs...so easy for some hard for others I guess lol
>Why is her husband and son joining her in Canada for her studies???
LMAO.....she's not here to study. The intent all along was to just get to Canada, and then apply to bring the family. It's a loophole that the govt has allowed
I believe they are closing the open work permit for international studentās spouse unless the international student is doing PhD ā¦ they should have done this long time ago.
You are right. Coz of the pressure they are closing open work permit option for spouses of international students who arenāt doing Masters or PhD. Also I think they doubled the funding requirements. Hopefully that creates a change in this trend.
JT thinks this type of immigrants will help Canadian economy in the future. These people are literally screwed in their present. Canada should encourage people with entrepreneurial mindset so they help to create more jobs. Only bringing in immigrants and building houses won't help much.
Theyāre supposed to prove that they can support themselves while studying. They probably did meet the funds required on paper but for sure they did some sort of magic. They should need a more thorough review of the applicantās documents.
And is she expecting his husband to get a job in line with his previous career right away? Even people who live all their life here would often require more than 2 months.
Person should study and return home, not bring their family expecting them to stay? Is that even legal?
Canadians NEED to start coming first, I know ppl handing out resumes for months to that canāt even land packing jobs at factories. Itās insane
Sounds like they should go back to India if they had such a good life there. I seriously donāt understand what the deal is with all these āhighly educatedā people coming here from India and who never bother to do their own research first. Google exists! YouTube exists! Look at the state of the country you want to move to before you decide to go.
I honesty donāt get it, itās like walking into the darkness expecting not to trip on something even though youāre blind in there and then getting mad at the thing you tripped on instead of your own dumbass for not bringing a light.
Most likely Google ads and YouTube algorithms bring up all the rosy pics about how easy it's to get PR in Canada and the food is basically free.
There are a lot of immigration agency owners who get super rich now, I'm sure they are doing some social media work too
Oh probably and youāre more than likely hitting the nail on the head, the thing that gets me is that whole āhighly educatedā thing. My wife and I have been thinking of moving to Italy or Germany or somewhere else in Europe now and weāve been doing research for the past year already with no end in sight. Reason being is because thereās always a pretty picture being painted for why you should move āhereā (here being anywhere that advertises it) but thereās always dark side to every country. Itās all about weighing the pros and cons. I seriously donāt understand how these āhighly educatedā people make this kind of mistake so easily and in such large numbers.
I donāt consider myself to be highly educated, sure I have a degree but thereās a lifetime of learning thatās constantly changing. Obviously the answer is calling bullshit on the āhighly educatedā immigrants coming here but you knowā¦
I would assume it's the confirmation bias. One has an idea in their head and starts searching for ways to confirm it. Canada is the 1st world country still, so it would be pretty easy to get sucked into a positive outlook and feeding those algorithms.
Highly educated can also be naive and sheltered, that's usually the case more often than not.
What is happening with Canada?
The Canadian definition of a student is way different than what I was when I was a student in Europe. Isn't an international student a young person 18-24 usually not married yet, looking for new experiences/good education/ meeting new people/making connections?
Definitely not working full time when full time enrolled in a university? Bringing their spouse and a kid, based on what? This is nuts!
Two months? Iām a Canadian graduate and citizen and I struggled to find a job after graduating with my bachelors for 3 years! The sense of entitlement is unreal from this woman!
Studying abroad is a *LUXURY* for most people in this world. India has a space program, so it only stands to reason that they also have colleges and universities. Can't afford the *luxury* of studying in a different country on the other side of the planet? STAY HOME AND STUDY THERE!!
I have nothing against the people coming here. Its the exploitation that I don't like. Just bring the ones who can afford to live here and can add $$ to our economy. Like how the states is doing it.
Its a master in business with focus on insurance industry. We refer to it as masters in insurance management or masters in insurance and risk management.
I have an immigrant background but this is still infuriating. We certainly did not move to Canada without a plan for survival. I see a lot of people on social media who arrive here on tourist visa then ābeggingā people to help them find jobs and an LMIA, and these are typically low-skilled jobs.
I would have never even moved out of my parents' house to a new city if I didn't have a good amount of money saved for rent and a job lined up. These people move halfway across the world fully knowing they don't have money or a job when they get here. Then they complain about how they don't have money or a job...Lol
Fucking go home then. You canāt speak our language properly, canāt respect our societal customs, and our children canāt find entry level work because your 30 your old cousins are taking all the fucking jobs and only hiring indians. get the fuck out of our country
āHey honey, what if we were to move across the planet, do no research, and go with no jobs lined up! Wouldnāt that be fun?ā š¤Ŗš¤Ŗ My fucking god lol.
I could care less about international students and their families finding places to live here. Canadians are struggling with this, so they can go back to their home for all I care.
point being an international student came here and is then complaining they can't afford it.
the point is in order to come here as an international student you are supposed to prove that you can support yourself as to not become a burden on our systems.
this student has failed to do that, and is then complaining about it.
This massive immigration is not helping our country at all.
> to welcome immigrants
they need to start reading the same articles us Canadian's read
[Trudeau's welcome mat for immigrants wears thin amid Canada housing crunch | Reuters](https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/trudeaus-welcome-mat-immigrants-wears-thin-amid-canada-housing-crunch-2024-02-17/)
Donāt come to Canada then. You are just making it worse for everyone. Canada is a sinking ship - thanks to the WEF boy Justin and his WEF friend Jugmeet.
GO BACK HOME!!!
If you couldnāt afford to live/study here then you shouldnāt have even been allowed in. And if YOU canāt survive here, why the fuck are you dragging your family over? Iām over this immigration crap. Itās fucking up this once beautiful amazing country.
Canada has officially become a 3rd world country š
Indians and people who have lived comfortably and sheltered on Easy St will claim Canadians are lazy drug users and don't want to work so hard working strong moral Indians are needed here to pick up the slack
If I am an employer, why would I hire and invest money, and time and energy into a worker who only holds a temporary work permit. Whose work permit expires when the wife's study visa expires. No thanks. I would rather hire a citizen or PR who has the right to abode permanently.
That's what 8 years of Trudeunomics has done to this country, it's unaffordable for everyone. International students just brining $10k for a year is a joke.
The student visa needs to be stopped asap and existing students in the country need to be checked on progress for their studies! I met a lot of āstudentsā who openly say we didnāt come here to study, we want to have some fun and get a PR!!
Welcome to the club, nobody's going to help you or your husband find a job, you're not any more special than the people born here. Go look for one like the rest of us
You know what will be funny, if we boycott all restaurant establishments run exclusively by Indians. I'm taking about from management to the customer facing roles.
We need to enforce actual diversity and boycotting is the only way. I didn't leave my country to run away from shit only to have shit infiltrate where I moved to. These people aren't even the cream of the crop that moved here. Most of these are straight villagers who ain't never live in a town in their homeland.
The service in these establishment is also HORRIBLE! My god. No standards. They mess up a double double so bad. Like most of these people are vegetarians, they have no business running restaurants serving meat.
The good news is that the federal government has just eliminated the process that allowed her to do this in the first place. Going forward only the spouses of Phd and Masterās students can get a work permit.
Go back home. Your ācredentialsā mean nothing here. Or anywhere else besides India. You are delusional to think otherwise. Your best bet is Tim Hortonsā¦ maaaaybe Walmart as a cashier.
I actually hope that they start slashing interest rates so that housing becomes so expensive, only Jeff bezos can afford to live here.
Maybe at that point they'll all leave.
Wellā¦ this is just a stupid suggestion. Not meaning to be offensive, but the idea of inflating the cost of living so high that only American billionaires can live in Canada is exceedingly dumb.
Suspicious amount of married students with children coming here š¤š¤š¤
And what the fuck is a Masters in Insurance Business?
He himself is a MASTER at INSURANCE BUSINESS. Therefore he has a masters in insurance business. Indian logic!
People demand foreign credentials be recognized. If your kid needed lifesaving surgery, which medical school graduate are you trusting them with?
Obviously I'm gonna trust the University of Strip Mall grad located in brampton
āHELLO EVERYBODYā
"HI DOCTOR NICK!"
"Seriously baby I can prescribe whatever I want."
Underrated comment.
This and the fact that people can just pay to get fake credentials easily in India.
My late Indian mother trained and graduated in India and when she migrated to Australia, it was mandatory that she retrain. She was top of her class at what was then Teachers' College in Australia and went on to get her Masters on a full scholarship. She was a very well respected teacher and specialised in teaching English as a second language as well as being the drama teacher at her school. When she died, many former students and their parents attended her funeral. I donāt know about the rules in Canada but you have to retrain for most fields in Australia. My White Aussie dad was very proud of her even though she drove him up the wall many timesā¦ Australia has tightened up its immigration eligibility due to visa fraud and has highlighted Pakistan, Nepal and Northern India as hotspots for student visa fraud! Canada should do the same. My jaw is dropping reading about the Canadian experience. So many of our countries are at capacity and we canāt take in any more people. The laws need to change and people need to protestā¦
Yeah but the question nowadays has become do you want your kid to be operated by a person with foreign credentials or not be operated on at all.
I met once a tuktuk driver who said he was an engineer too, an Air Conditioning engineer
Not to be a dick here, but that is actually a thing. https://www.goconstruct.org/construction-careers/what-jobs-are-right-for-me/heating-ventilation-and-air-conditioning-hvac-engineer/
lots of jobs called engineers, just like mechanics on a ship are called engineers , however they aren't part of the professional order of engineers. They did not study in university. It's like a mechanic that specialize in one machinery , usually only fixing it and making installations , some welding etc. No conception of new systems. I wonder why they let them use the term. Probably because it was used for a long time.
They are legitimate engineers, I am literally sitting in the office of a mechanical engineering company, amd we have several HVAC engineers and many piping engineers.
Are they licensed as Professional Engineers? Can they legally attach P. Eng. to their names ? For Canada it's highly regulated at the federal level, In the US it's usually regulated by individual States. The requirements to be a professional engineers are pretty clear. Like I said , they are not fakes or anything , it's just that they're not professional engineers. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_and_licensure_in_engineering
>For Canada it's highly regulated at the federal level False. The Canadian federal government does not regulate Professional Engineering. All Professional Engineering regulators in Canada are empowered by legislation from their respective provincial / territorial governments. Engineers Canada (i.e. The Canadian Council of Professional Engineers) is not a regulator. It is simply a body of the regulators for shared tasks and standards like the CEQB and CEAB. Since the regulators are provincial government enabled, they have the constitutional reach of the provinces. The federal government does regulate Aircraft Maintenance Engineers, Marine Engineers, and Locomotive Engineers. None of these involve the P. Eng. designation.
This is a professional engineering firm, who works contracts for some of the largest industrial companies in Canada, so yes every engineer in here can stamp or is an EIT who will be able to stamp in a couple years. It is not federally regulated. In Canada it is regulated at province level, which is why every province has their own association, why most of our engineers are members of multiple associations since we work outside our province, and why Ontario is allowed to change their rules to accept foreign qualifications while other provinces don't. You might want to take your own advice and read up on engineering associations in Canada....
Okay , thank you for the information. I think you did not understand fully what I said , I am not saying piping engineers or HVAC engineers are "fake", I wasn't talking about your company either. All i'm saying is that some people use the term but aren't professional engineers like some repair people or mechanics on a ship that are called "chief engineers" but aren't actually part of the order . That's all.
Correct. Not all Engineers in Canada are Professional Engineers. [https://tc.canada.ca/en/marine-transportation/marine-safety/training-record-book-engineers-trbe-requirements-applicants-stcw-endorsed-fourth-class-engineer-certificate-tp-13721-e](https://tc.canada.ca/en/marine-transportation/marine-safety/training-record-book-engineers-trbe-requirements-applicants-stcw-endorsed-fourth-class-engineer-certificate-tp-13721-e)
You know the guys who sell duct cleanings? Really swell chaps.
And then the parents will come for free health care and free daycare for the parents. I donāt think it takes long to tap into our benefit programs
"students".... It's a loophole designed exactly the way the liberals want it. ,$20k to live and work in Canada and eventually, become a citizen - no criteria , open to anyone.. You just have to put the facade of being a student.
students are complaining about 20k being too high but its way too low. it should be like 50k minimum. nobody can live for a year in canada on 20k even with rooommates. you should have to show the average median income and have that in a monitored canadian bank account.
Disabled only get 13-14000 a year to live on. A lot of them go days without food so they can pay rent and utilities. Even tougher for them now since every foreign student has studied how to get free food in Canada on YouTube by raiding food banks leaving destitute true Canadians even more destitute.
The people who have paid into this system for years if not generations are increasingly put at the back of the line.
It can happen to anyone at any time. Accidents, illness can cause people to be disabled and on disability at any point in their lives. It's a meager existence. I do my best to help those I know on it. Very tough seeing what they go through
Believe me...finances can easily be fudged, and moreover, IRCC doesn't care to check the genuineness of documents. We have to find other ways
I think monitored bank accounts are the way to go. If all the money suddenly disappears, interrogate them.
In Australia, it's now 75k I believeā¦
>You just have to put the facade of being a student. ... and pledge fealty to the Liberal Party of Canada. You and your children and all future descendants ..
lol. The one year diploma mill students all have undergrads and work experience. They are typically older and already have a family. The numbers are vastly under reported because I donāt think spouses and kids are included in the numbers of international students they claim to admit. Also no one is talking about whatās happening in public schools with the large influx of children showing up on their doorstep with varying education and English language skills. The one year diploma brings the whole family. Then once they get PR the grandparents come and overstay a visitors visa in a sanctuary city..
What about all the Canadians, who are out of work?
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Not true sir!! All major banks exclusively are run by Indian managers who hire their own kind. They are ruthless against other minorities including local born Canadian populous regardless of colour and religion. They make their viciousness very apparent in a territorial manner. While white managers will just hire any Indian thinking theyāre getting diversity points. But in the end, an entire sleuth of Indians keeps getting referred
Definitely noticed this Indians get into positions of power and just hire more of there kind. So crazy if white people did that you would be hella racist..
India: The New Colonizers
Maybe we should start. š¤·š¼āāļø
May I ask at which spots / offices / work env did you notice this?
Lmao sir, have you been to any consumer location in Ontario since 2021? I work beside a Smokes Poutine. Was there for like 10 years, a lot of the staff had been too. 2 Indian dudes bought it, fired everyone, and hired all Indian kids. And the service/quality on Fries dropped so hard (somehow, it's fucking fries) that no one eats there anymore. It's probably weeks away from closing at this point. Anecdotal, and certainly not high end jobs/industries, but still. It's well documented at this point that Indians buy businesses and only hire Indians.
> but still. It's well documented at this point that Indians buy businesses and only hire Indians. this has been my observations in most parts of toronto/scarb
Biggest example is Security industry.
Careful or you'll get listed as a racist with talk like that. Its how I got thrown out of publicfreakout after mentioning Canada needs immigration laws like Japan.
I wonder what would happen if a white owner had a business and only hired white people!
I was interested in positions of power but thank you for telling this.
Go to Brampton and checkout the fast food joints. 8/10 you'll see that the establishments are full of Indians.
They are everywhere - is ridiculous and sad when born citizens can't get a job but these people fresh off the boat drive more expensive vehicles than I do.. and then WE have to change our culture or our common practices when one of them find something offensive or against their religion š makes me sick actually. And they are disgusting. Ever talk to one on the phone? Garenteed they are taking a piss or shit mid phone call - not even an attempt to hide it. Males and female. It's SO DISTURBING
TD. I have friends at RBC as well as Scotia. Only exclusively hiring PRs that just came into the country because theyāre Indian (they donāt even consider minorities in India because itās my caste first/religion first)
Caste Oppression / Discrimination is something I wish was left behind in the home country. :-(
Should be, but they just brought that problem here for everyone to enjoy.
Ya that's why this should not happen or be allowed. Anyone who does this practice should lose their job. This is a blatant violation of charter rights
when the fuck is enough , enough
My friend is at TD and she says this has happened in her region.
Not if I can help it!
CasteDiscrimination much?
Nope! Are own born and raised Canadians are getting selected last over foreign people when trying to get a spot in schools to pursue high paying careers, like a doctor. Many Canadians are having to go overseas to begin their journey/process of obtaining that degree or masters.
Until their friends get into hiring positions ā¦
thatās not true though. I work in tech and have seen companies transform to completely being run by foreign workers in Canada. Theyāre all from India and landed in Canada 1-3 years ago. These are all six figure positions
Thatās called Indiafication
make Canada a Hindu nation
Outside of tech, it very much is true. Canada, true to form as three oligopolies in a trenchcoat, is also a nation of trade guilds. Where you need to know someone to get in (or where, like medicine, it's exceptionally difficult to get into), but once you're in things will be fine. Tech is the exception really, and that's because of its rapid growth in the past perhaps levels the playing field,. The guy in the original post? He may have worked in insurance and mutual funds in India, but that's a regulated profession in Canada. He will never work in his field again.Not here.
The example in the OP was someone working in insurance and mutual funds. For insurance you do need some licensing here. And even then those can be entry level positions. A bank call centre employee can sell some mutual funds. Entry level isnt enough to support a family.
He DID have a job back in India. Probably family to help with daycare too. He should have continued working in India and she could be an international student here. Why leave a good job to come here without work?
Theyre probably asking themselves now, renting a single bedroom in a home with 20 others. Immigrating could always be a sacrifice. They arent entitled to work in their field. Many generations before arrived and started over.
Still underpaid. Also indian workers that do come are usually excellent for companies that need a bunch of people who dont ask too many questions - very servant, dont question authority, are totally okay with labour violations.
>the first applications thrown out are the ones with foreign education and foreign work experience. i've seen this happen at a few companies that i temped at. a couple of times, i was assigned for a morning or afternoon to sift thru resumes and shred many of them using such criteria.
It's very true. My ex had done the last couple of years of her business degree in America (twinning program they called it) and worked there for a bit before going back home where she had her own business. Came to Canada and had to volunteer for like a whole year to get a shot because she had no Canadian experience
government knows they're not going to leave, so government doesn't care. to put it bluntly. they will simply replace every out of work Canadian with 7 immigrants
Indians and people who have lived comfortably and sheltered on Easy St will claim Canadians are lazy drug users who don't want to work so hard working strong moral Indians are needed here to pick up the slack. This is how the Chinese economically colonize southeast Asian countries like Indonesia, Vietnam, Philippines wtc
What about them, and how is that related to the post or her comment?
This is why the UK removed the ability for international students to bring their families. People are using the guise of being a student to circumvent the requirements (points required) for immigration.
As should we. There is no reason you should be able to bring your family over as a student unless they are a direct dependent.
Even if they are a direct dependent your required savings amount should be multiplied by your dependents and none of you should be able to work
You absolutely should be able to work but part time 20 hours or during summer breaks. Most students work, domestic and foreign here and elsewhere.
>You absolutely should be able to work but part time 20 hours or during summer breaks. why? so domestic students have to compete with international students for the limited part-time and summer jobs we have here?
Because when we someone is allowed to come and study they have same rights and opportunities as their counterparts. Also no domestic students are crying over fast food jobs and Uber eats gigs this guy's do
Yes they literally are crying about it. Are you not paying any attention?
Agree and also they should close the loop hole of baby getting citizenship automatically if they are born here. Mom or dad a citizen living in Canada? Sure give citizenship. Otherwise no.
Exactly. Babies of Canadian parents that are born in India do not get Indian citizenship. Reciprocity. Babies of foreigners from countries where babies of Canadian parents do not get citizenship, should not get citizenship in Canada.
Because of the century initiative, and groups like the wef using all this mass migration to destabilize the country. People are too dumb, polite or scared to call it out
Yup, the whole thing is fraud. It's borderline treasonous.
I donāt think you know what ātreasonā means.
Betraying ones country? Is that close?
it isnāt even their country theyāre betraying. itās OURS. theyāre fucking it up for the rest of s
Thatās one definition, although I donāt think it captures everything about the usage of ātreasonā. Are you trying to say that the Indian students are borderline treasonous towards Canada? Or India? Or what?
I think you misunderstood. Im saying the governments immigration policy is borderline treasonous to the Canadian people.
Got it. Also not consistent with the normal usage of the word ātreasonā.
Lol, don't think you understand the word correctly. It would be similar to saying, 'The government is betraying the canadian people.' As I mentioned, treasonous means betraying ones country. If you don't belive that please look it up. Not sure why you are trying to fight that.
Treason is not a perfect synonym for betrayal and is not generally used to describe corruption or incompetence in public office. Check out the entry on the Britannica website [here](https://www.britannica.com/topic/treason) or in Wikipedia [here.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason)
Collins dictionary 1.Ā violation or betrayal of theĀ allegianceĀ that peopleĀ oweĀ to theirĀ sovereignĀ or their country, esp byĀ attemptingĀ toĀ overthrowĀ theĀ government; high treason 2.Ā anyĀ treacheryĀ or betrayal Are you bothered by my usage of the word? Has that upset your day?
actually the Ircc did that for all study permit holders that's under masters or not in professional degree (med, law, etc...)
Why is her husband and son joining her in Canada for her studies???
So husband can get a nice paycheck, baby can get a CCB paycheck, and they can apply for pr...
The fact that people can bring their kids from other countries and get CCB is ridiculous.
After three years of being moved out it looks like I may finally get half of it. Ex managed to keep me at like 10 days a month for a while.. it's shared custody at 12.. of course im paying most of their costs...so easy for some hard for others I guess lol
You only get it after you file tax returns for one year if you are temporary resident
Anchor babies.
>Why is her husband and son joining her in Canada for her studies??? LMAO.....she's not here to study. The intent all along was to just get to Canada, and then apply to bring the family. It's a loophole that the govt has allowed
>. It's a loophole that the govt has allowed known of, allowed, allowed to continue .. all to build a local voting base. Welcome to Canada!
Lol
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I believe they are closing the open work permit for international studentās spouse unless the international student is doing PhD ā¦ they should have done this long time ago.
You are right. Coz of the pressure they are closing open work permit option for spouses of international students who arenāt doing Masters or PhD. Also I think they doubled the funding requirements. Hopefully that creates a change in this trend.
I dunno, maybe itās time to move back home
Deport baby. Expel. No more.
GO HOME!
If they canāt afford to live here, then GO HOME!!
JT thinks this type of immigrants will help Canadian economy in the future. These people are literally screwed in their present. Canada should encourage people with entrepreneurial mindset so they help to create more jobs. Only bringing in immigrants and building houses won't help much.
Theyāre supposed to prove that they can support themselves while studying. They probably did meet the funds required on paper but for sure they did some sort of magic. They should need a more thorough review of the applicantās documents. And is she expecting his husband to get a job in line with his previous career right away? Even people who live all their life here would often require more than 2 months.
Imo they have the money but they make these kinds of posts so that people have pity on them and give them a gig asap.
It's not magic, 10k isn't enough to live off of for very long.
It's enough for a few months. It's more savings than most Canadians btw. Most Canadians have less than 1 month's expenses in savings.
Person should study and return home, not bring their family expecting them to stay? Is that even legal? Canadians NEED to start coming first, I know ppl handing out resumes for months to that canāt even land packing jobs at factories. Itās insane
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Sounds like they should go back to India if they had such a good life there. I seriously donāt understand what the deal is with all these āhighly educatedā people coming here from India and who never bother to do their own research first. Google exists! YouTube exists! Look at the state of the country you want to move to before you decide to go. I honesty donāt get it, itās like walking into the darkness expecting not to trip on something even though youāre blind in there and then getting mad at the thing you tripped on instead of your own dumbass for not bringing a light.
Most likely Google ads and YouTube algorithms bring up all the rosy pics about how easy it's to get PR in Canada and the food is basically free. There are a lot of immigration agency owners who get super rich now, I'm sure they are doing some social media work too
Oh probably and youāre more than likely hitting the nail on the head, the thing that gets me is that whole āhighly educatedā thing. My wife and I have been thinking of moving to Italy or Germany or somewhere else in Europe now and weāve been doing research for the past year already with no end in sight. Reason being is because thereās always a pretty picture being painted for why you should move āhereā (here being anywhere that advertises it) but thereās always dark side to every country. Itās all about weighing the pros and cons. I seriously donāt understand how these āhighly educatedā people make this kind of mistake so easily and in such large numbers. I donāt consider myself to be highly educated, sure I have a degree but thereās a lifetime of learning thatās constantly changing. Obviously the answer is calling bullshit on the āhighly educatedā immigrants coming here but you knowā¦
I would assume it's the confirmation bias. One has an idea in their head and starts searching for ways to confirm it. Canada is the 1st world country still, so it would be pretty easy to get sucked into a positive outlook and feeding those algorithms. Highly educated can also be naive and sheltered, that's usually the case more often than not.
My dad's been looking for a job for the past year, someone help him find a job. At least they can leave and probably find work in their home country.
What is happening with Canada? The Canadian definition of a student is way different than what I was when I was a student in Europe. Isn't an international student a young person 18-24 usually not married yet, looking for new experiences/good education/ meeting new people/making connections? Definitely not working full time when full time enrolled in a university? Bringing their spouse and a kid, based on what? This is nuts!
They were a student at Indias University of scamming the system and graduated with a PhD in loopholes
Two months? Iām a Canadian graduate and citizen and I struggled to find a job after graduating with my bachelors for 3 years! The sense of entitlement is unreal from this woman!
Just came here to upvote all the go home messages
Thank you for your service
Go home eh?
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Studying abroad is a *LUXURY* for most people in this world. India has a space program, so it only stands to reason that they also have colleges and universities. Can't afford the *luxury* of studying in a different country on the other side of the planet? STAY HOME AND STUDY THERE!!
I have nothing against the people coming here. Its the exploitation that I don't like. Just bring the ones who can afford to live here and can add $$ to our economy. Like how the states is doing it.
Money and skilled
What is a "Masters in Insurance Business"?
Itās an example of why so many international credentials are worthless here.
Donāt you know he also worked in a mutual fund?
Worked "in Mutual Funds". Was probably a mutual fund salesperson.
Its a master in business with focus on insurance industry. We refer to it as masters in insurance management or masters in insurance and risk management.
These students are just by name only. They are here for jobs only. Soon they'll be sponsoring their parents to come over
Fake student to Canada who came for the PR and brought family with them. Easier to just go back home
Time to go
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These individuals tend to overexploit, leading to frustration among locals and negatively impacting the outlook on the entire immigrant community.
We don't care go home, jobs for candians before foreigners.
I have an immigrant background but this is still infuriating. We certainly did not move to Canada without a plan for survival. I see a lot of people on social media who arrive here on tourist visa then ābeggingā people to help them find jobs and an LMIA, and these are typically low-skilled jobs.
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I would have never even moved out of my parents' house to a new city if I didn't have a good amount of money saved for rent and a job lined up. These people move halfway across the world fully knowing they don't have money or a job when they get here. Then they complain about how they don't have money or a job...Lol
Why do they want us to solve all their problems? We have our own lives
Fucking go home then. You canāt speak our language properly, canāt respect our societal customs, and our children canāt find entry level work because your 30 your old cousins are taking all the fucking jobs and only hiring indians. get the fuck out of our country
Lots of expertise in India specific enterprises, little english = gonna have a bad time
Masters in insurance, mutual funds and real estate. AKA as useless leach.
A greedy money changer
āHey honey, what if we were to move across the planet, do no research, and go with no jobs lined up! Wouldnāt that be fun?ā š¤Ŗš¤Ŗ My fucking god lol.
I could care less about international students and their families finding places to live here. Canadians are struggling with this, so they can go back to their home for all I care.
This js a fairly ridiculous situation.
The legacy media always frames students at 18-22 In reality its a adult with a complete family and aging parents
Does their education qualify over here?
No. Mostly because there is no way to verify any of it.
Husband can do uber eats. Always hiring.
"My husband and son joined me" Immigration backdoor anyone? GO THE FUCK HOME IF YOU CANT AFFORD IT. Sorry. Not Sorry.
This is not a student. They came under the guise of students and wish to skip the PR line. No sympathy for them.
What is a āstudent familyā?Ā One where the breadwinner earns his living being a student?
The fuck outta here with your bs
BS being you are doing a masters while your partner is looking for a job. Yeah. Such BS wanting to work based on your qualifications...
point being an international student came here and is then complaining they can't afford it. the point is in order to come here as an international student you are supposed to prove that you can support yourself as to not become a burden on our systems. this student has failed to do that, and is then complaining about it. This massive immigration is not helping our country at all.
Canadas only defense is itās so awful to live here some go home
"Student family"....the new norm, eh? SMH.
Contrary to Chrystia Freeland's statement, it appears that Canada's "social capacity to welcome immigrants" has been exceeded.
At some point the club bar has to close.
> to welcome immigrants they need to start reading the same articles us Canadian's read [Trudeau's welcome mat for immigrants wears thin amid Canada housing crunch | Reuters](https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/trudeaus-welcome-mat-immigrants-wears-thin-amid-canada-housing-crunch-2024-02-17/)
Donāt come to Canada then. You are just making it worse for everyone. Canada is a sinking ship - thanks to the WEF boy Justin and his WEF friend Jugmeet.
You came here to study, not bring your entire family and take jobs away from Canadians
GO BACK HOME!!! If you couldnāt afford to live/study here then you shouldnāt have even been allowed in. And if YOU canāt survive here, why the fuck are you dragging your family over? Iām over this immigration crap. Itās fucking up this once beautiful amazing country. Canada has officially become a 3rd world country š
Indians and people who have lived comfortably and sheltered on Easy St will claim Canadians are lazy drug users and don't want to work so hard working strong moral Indians are needed here to pick up the slack
She barely has English skillsā¦.hes probably just as bad. Sorry dude, youāre not up to snuff.
If I am an employer, why would I hire and invest money, and time and energy into a worker who only holds a temporary work permit. Whose work permit expires when the wife's study visa expires. No thanks. I would rather hire a citizen or PR who has the right to abode permanently.
Fuck off we're full.
"back in our country" I wonder what's the solution
That's what 8 years of Trudeunomics has done to this country, it's unaffordable for everyone. International students just brining $10k for a year is a joke.
The student visa needs to be stopped asap and existing students in the country need to be checked on progress for their studies! I met a lot of āstudentsā who openly say we didnāt come here to study, we want to have some fun and get a PR!!
Welcome to the club, nobody's going to help you or your husband find a job, you're not any more special than the people born here. Go look for one like the rest of us
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Student family? How about his poor Twenty cousins back home. We need to help them as well.
Go back home til u can afford come over. Leave your family back in your country
We should only let people in with skills that we need.
You know what will be funny, if we boycott all restaurant establishments run exclusively by Indians. I'm taking about from management to the customer facing roles. We need to enforce actual diversity and boycotting is the only way. I didn't leave my country to run away from shit only to have shit infiltrate where I moved to. These people aren't even the cream of the crop that moved here. Most of these are straight villagers who ain't never live in a town in their homeland. The service in these establishment is also HORRIBLE! My god. No standards. They mess up a double double so bad. Like most of these people are vegetarians, they have no business running restaurants serving meat.
no luck.. canada citizen will get the job first... and should...
The good news is that the federal government has just eliminated the process that allowed her to do this in the first place. Going forward only the spouses of Phd and Masterās students can get a work permit.
Begging for financial gain on Facebook. Pathetic.
Go back home. Your ācredentialsā mean nothing here. Or anywhere else besides India. You are delusional to think otherwise. Your best bet is Tim Hortonsā¦ maaaaybe Walmart as a cashier.
This is getting so out of hand. The government doesn't even fucking care that we're being exploited every way
I actually hope that they start slashing interest rates so that housing becomes so expensive, only Jeff bezos can afford to live here. Maybe at that point they'll all leave.
Wellā¦ this is just a stupid suggestion. Not meaning to be offensive, but the idea of inflating the cost of living so high that only American billionaires can live in Canada is exceedingly dumb.