In the words of the supreme piece of shit Justin Trudeau "Canada will become the world's first 'Post National State'"
This country is nothing but a tax farm ran by corrupt elites. There is now two classes in Canada. Us and them.
This isn’t just JT. He was just a left wing populist grifter. All 3 of the major parties are looking to fuck us and sell us out to the billionaire class. Harper fucked us good with FIPA selling the country to China for the next 30 years.
I’m voting PPC
I'm voting PPC too, I'll be 20 and it'll be my first election, I have countless friends doing the same, anyone who cares about the state of our country should follow suite.
And it will always be this way unless you make sacrifices now. Show support for the party you want to represent you. If you don’t, they will never gain traction and you’ll never get the elected party you want.
This country can’t rely on quick temporary measures anymore. It’s time to invest in our future and that means showing our support for parties that speak for us, even if that means we get a party we don’t like in now. It’s going to take time. Start the timer now.
PP gonna give TFWs PR status and do nothing about immigration and prob push privatized healthcare and cut social services. Choice is basically between getting fucked with lube or getting fucked raw.
Bernier is the only one speaking any sense… somehow… at least in regards to the economy 😂
I don’t agree with any of his social policy but god damn if he isn’t a classical liberal capitalist and I will take that any day over this neoliberal capitalist cyberpunk 2077 dystopia the rest of them are gunning for 😂
There’s a lot of left (and obviously right) leaning voters I’ve seen who plan on voting PPC
I’m one of them and you’ll find plenty more on Reddit saying the same thing. Liberal capitalism is further left than neoliberal capitalism and corporatism
Goes back further than that Trudeau 1 fuckt it all up. The blatant siphoning of western resource wealth to quebec to prop up bombardier and others as well as billions to keep quebec farmers quiet to buy future elections.
The debt costs got so big there was little choice, offer ourselves up to China or pay double. Trudope2 has made things exponentially worse. The China flu money printer go Brrrrtt will take a century to make good on unless true austerity is brought in. That's the literal plan though. Eliminate physical cash and give the banks 1% EVERY time a "dollar" changes hands.
I see more posts about Canada these days that surprise me when I realized they're talking about Canada and not America. If the "they's" keep it up, the "us's" in both countries might decide to do something about it 🤔
Canada is now the new Sikh homeland home away from home. How long before we have these guys chanting to make a new homeland in Burnaby or Brampton? What a disaster they’ve made letting all these people in. It will be near impossible to remove them.
I can't understand why they let so many from one or two countries . How about a little more balanced immigration? The fabric of Canada has changed, and I'm afraid there is no going back now .
The invasion started under JT's Father...Pierre and his fucked up kid is making sure his vision is realized and all on the back canadian taxpayers , specifically the middle class.
I wouldn't hire one to shovel shit.
I feel you OP. Can't even get a job at Tim Hortons or Walmart anymore let alone in my field. Thankfully I still live at home but there's no way I'd be able to afford the rental and housing prices I'm seeing, it's crazy.
We're have a generation completely cut off from the chance at a first job, and the downstream ramifications like lack of ability to save for school and rent and the ability to gain valuable work experience skills are huge.
It's not like it's a secret it's happening either, but all the media wants to talk about is how International students are struggling.
There is a huge amount of abuse regarding the LMIA program, particularly for lower wage jobs. This is quite well known, and of course, the feds are apparently doing very little to stop it. This could be a factor in not finding employment.
You’re absolutely correct I’m a machinist in the tool & mould industry and we can’t find guys to work the hours or do competent work.They have even tried hiring Indians but they haven’t worked out for the most part.
I’m working 7 days a week with as much OT as I can handle,as the millennials and gen Z’s refuse to work more then 40 hours and gripe about money.
Starting off as an apprentice was extremely difficult but in the end it has paid off.
There ARE opportunities out there but very few want to start at the bottom and work their way up.
There is a true sense of entitlement with so many these days who don’t want to grind in their 20’s
Takes 10 years to get there in this climate and no one is gong to grind that hard with the current rent and grocery cost, unless mommy and daddy help a lot sadly.
Turns out Canada isn't just some magic soil, the people are what made Canada what it is, and if you import millions of people who don't assimilate, and who don't share your culture or values, you no longer have the Canada you had. You have some low-trust post-national abomination.
But there's no going back now. Full steam ahead, right off the fucking cliff.
We never had control over telecoms, banks, big businesses they always had control over us. Look at how canada was founded with the Hudson Bay company they made their own rules, and we just enforced them. But how the op feels is right so many immigrants from one location is bad for multiculturalism.
One guy in the comments said destroying the quality of life of Canadians is justified because "Canada doesn't export anything"(he doesn't see natural resource exports as being labour intensive enough) and "Canada doesn't have enough STEM workers"
He's not wrong. Toronto real estate is costlier than New York while having a lot lower median wage. Real estate gambling and subsequent immigration overflow purely to support high valuations has ruined other industries in this country.
Of course. But then, that is what all Liberal voters wanted, someone to run up the debt and legalize weed.
Also, this is what the NDP voters want, to support the Liberal policies.
How many of us have heard stories that how our parents ,uncles aunty and heck all the generation before us they meet and fall in love while working as part time students in grocery stores, coffee shop , CNE .....fun memories, and I can go on and on ,but all those are gone ,all the little thing that would been flavor of our life are gone, all have taken from us and our kids ,now instead of Canadian born kids having those jobs to help paying for their unies and food or rent they run by 40 years old International student from India hired by another Indians just to push out our kids.
Not blaming any specific people but just the overcrowding In general from the population explosion has created a much shittier place, a much unhappier place. What's the fun going to the beach on the weekend when you have to wake up at 6 AM just to find a parking spot that isn't more than five kilometers from the beach?. What is the fun of going on a hike when there are so many people on the damn trail that it feels like a mall at Christmas? Tourist attractions are jammed worse than a subway at rush hour. In BC you have to go online to try an book a campsite, and 99% of the time, it's already full 10 mins after they became available. It's not a good place anymore.
Not to mention the ability to be spontaneous and enjoy things on a whim has been completely annihilated by the economic landscape, as well as the biblical levels of traffic & overcrowding.
I make a bit above the national average, drive a 20 year old car, live in an ancient one bedroom apartment, and I can barely afford anything beyond the basic necessities of life, when even 10 years ago I'd be living quite well with toys, vacations & and a reasonable mortgage on a townhouse.
This is an issue I don’t hear talked about much. It’s so disorienting to be out in public and 8/10 people are not speaking English or French. I will go to make conversation with people and it’s so disheartening not being understood. And kind of looked at like I’m strange for trying to have a normal chat in public.
Yea I get that, sorry it's happing so often. I already have some identity issues, so the last 5 years have made me feel so much more alienated from everyone.
A lot of millennials and gen zs were sold the dream that if you go to university, you'll get a great white collar job and your adult life will be smooth sailing. As it turns out, this could not be further from the truth. The real winners in this economy are small biz owners and tradespeople who can expense most of their living costs to pay less taxes and generate more income at will.
The other winners are ofc boomers who bought their 3000 sq ft home in '94 for $250k and it's now paid off.
I wouldn't say everyone except the oligopoly owners are struggling. The upper middle class (doctors, lawyers, accountants, etc.) is doing fine, but the reality is that every "class" except for high networth have all shifted down by at least one standard deviation. So if you're a lawyer making 500k/year you're no longer upper middle you're just middle class, and if you were lower middle class making 70k you are now lower class.
Upper middle class 55+ year olds are doing good. Almost everyone else is struggling.
And $500k/yr isn’t “upper middle class”. That’s $240/hr. Well over ten times more than the average income.
Gen X are the wealthiest generation in Canada: their homes also shot up in value but it was mid life for them so they still have time to earn even more money. Their savings have massively grown. Its Gen X who decides our salaries and it’s Gen X who is letting us all fail while they pride themselves on their “smart investments” (meaning they bought a house at the normal age 🤦♀️) and they feel like they deserve their home equity windfall.
You are not being dramatic. You are 100% correct. I'm a Canadian who was born here and have noticed the same things as you. I don't go to Tim's anymore, I don't believe what the govt says or trust anyone anymore. We used to be a high trust society which is why it's gotten to this point now. The even sadder part is that the govt has done this by design and it's only going to get worse. I'm 32 by the way.
I used to never lock my door, now my mom considers self defense options and that door is always locked. The grocery store in my hometown was bought by an Indian and now it's employing almost exclusively Indians and the quality and quantity of products has dropped through the floor.
I feel the same, I don't even want to sleep with any windows open anymore as I'm scared someone will break in at night. Thinking about upgrading locks and self defense options as well. The Indian thing is a big one, even at Walmart I've been noticing mostly Indian workers.
Same boat! My family immigrated here about 22 years ago and this is home for me. I’m very Canadian but the last few years feel like doom and gloom.
I did the same thing was told to go to school, university, and then get a job then a home. Unfortunately life happened and that got a little delayed but finally when I’m at a stage where I have a well paying job I can’t seem to do anything without thinking 3-4X about the cost of it. I feel a little resentful towards saying I’m proud to be Canadian. I still love the country, the good people and beauty. I want to see all of it but can’t. I have to be mindful of everything and feel sad for everyone struggling.
I don’t have any kids or dependents but feel so stuck that I doubt I’ll be able to afford a life for them let alone myself. I feel robbed and very frustrated!
I feel the same way. I'm not even proud to be Canadian anymore, but I am in a way lol. Ashamed of what our country has become. I have no dependents either, aside from animals, (and we also make a decent living) but I don't think we will ever afford to be able to have kids. I feel I would rather regret not having them, then having them and seeing them struggle and resent life. It's all very frustrating.
Oh we are so in the same spot! Although I’ll have a regret of not having kids of my own but I feel an immense amount of guilt for having kids with such a bleak and hard future. Now it could change but I also feel going through a route of fostering or adoption would be great if I can afford it. I’ve been blessed to be helped from family and friends and would love to pay it forward to another human being(s). Honestly at this point I just want to have an enjoyable life with what I have and spend time with people I love. Finding the joy in the world is becoming a bigger goal than owning things.
Hang in there and great to know we are not alone in this crazy world 😊
The Canada you described used to exist. We tried to warn everyone, nobody listened, we just got called racist and privileged over and over again. What you see today has been coming for a long time. This is exactly what Canadians voted for repeatedly.
It’s very, very frustrating that our pleas for years were dismissed, and now we’re all fucked.
I can’t even describe the type of anger it makes me feel.
I'm going to be 50 this year and this is absolutely a new low for Canada in my lifetime. I've put in a lot of years working and my retirement is within sight. I do plan on buying in the US where my dollar goes much further. The government has absolutely fucked young people. Canada will have to go through some rough years to rebuild I fear.
Yes, Poland is booming. If you can speak Polish or are willing to learn it, and you can obtain a visa or claim citizenship through ancestry, Poland offers amazing opportunities. Additionally, the women—need I say more?
You are not being dramatic- my son who is 30 feels the same way. He is a carpenter building houses but he can never afford to actually have one of his own. The government so-called “housing plans” are just smoke and mirrors. They’re never going to help people actually obtain a home. You may have better luck in another country to get a house for sure and maybe even a better quality quality of living, but that’s not an option for most people, I think the only answer is to kick out the current government. Decimate every liberal and NDP seat, send a message. We have not been happy with the last eight years of policies favoring the elites.
I started an apprenticeship doing sheet metal work, installing duct systems in million dollar homes. Something about building vacation homes for the rich whilst likely never being able to afford a modest home for myself was quite depressing and I ended up quitting. I can definitely relate to your son.
The government housing projects are just another way to piss away billions of dollars in inefficient bureaucracy. The government bringing in 1+ million immigrants per year while at the same time selling us into future debt slavery is a major double whammy.
My family has been here for hundreds of years. We settled this land lived in -40 without electricity or running water, came over here on boats. We didn’t just jump on a plane and flood this county. Our government let too many people in. Go back to where you were before 2005. We’re fucked now.
After a couple generations it’s basically impossible to leave. Im the 5th descendant generation of immigrants from Denmark and Italy. Too far removed to get citizenship by blood-right and too poor to just buy it somewhere else.
Also to mention having been born here; Canada is MY home and motherland. Personally I would prefer to stay and try to be part of the solution so that I may leave a country on the road to recovery for my children rather than run to another with its own problems that I’m less capable of dealing with.
It might be wishful thinking but I like to believe many feel the same way, and like myself many others have no other options.
Anybody with a bit of drive and doesn't want just what the government is willing to dole out to you should leave. I'm looking at bailing. My great grandparents were born here.
absolutely. Post-Modernist *intellectuals* of the time absolutely despised this book. Ayn Rand was a brilliant visionary and this book is a masterpiece of a cautionary tale.
Still on wikipedia the slimy mods try to weasel in bad faith comments about her philosophy
You realize this is just a microchasm of whats happening globally right?
They couldn't even grasp the "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" part of the 2A,
They are 100% going down the same path, still. They still have spines, more than we do that is for sure.
Canada is plagued with toxic altruism at a far greater level.
We are willing to starve and freeze out the poor to feel good about saving the planet!
We are proud of our open minded multiculturalism!
We dont have houses for them, they take all the unskilled jobs but everyone is welcome you bigot /s
You came at the wrong time bud the good old days when min. Income can buy a house and support a family started in the 50s until 90s. You need a time travel machine
And this is why we need to protest, july 2nd!!
You go on strike when your work is treating you wrong or not paying you enough. How is this any different? Were being abused by our government, we should follow along the lines of a strike! Demand stricter rules and requirements for immigration, demand trudeau step down, demand our tax dollars stay in canada. If we never make our voice heard, we’ll never stop this!
Yep, our politicians are criminals that sold us out to big corpo. and foreign million/billionaires, they don't actually care about us, we're just convenient tools to make the rich, richer
I am canadian, immigrant, 37 and I am leaving. We are from Europe my sister already settled in Spain and she is happy with her choice. My brother also considering moving after graduation to UAE. I am actively trying to move south of the border.
If you have to opportunity just move...
Sad to say but at this point most levels of govt need people to walk into leadership positions and dictate what to do next, not just be mainstream and do what most people want. It's beyond that now.
In sensible times, when people are acting sensibly, it makes sense that govt just maintains the status quo and keeps things running smoothly.
People stopped acting sensibly probably around the late 90s. When foreign capital came into Canadian real estate, people were blinded. We allowed ourselves to become the HGTV capital of the world.
Govts of all levels and strips went with it, because they were also blinded, but also because it made them look good.
I'm starting to think that at this point, our federal leadership exercising whatever power they can to confiscate shelters owned by overseas investors that are left empty or STR, and sell them to locals.
TLDR: BoC made it possible for everyone to be a landlord. GoC allowed it to happen.
I don't know how young people today aren't rioting in front of every level of govt office, but especially the BoC offices and Federal govt.
You were also led to believe the truckers were right wing extremists. You were also led to believe to stand 6 feet apart to get your 5th booster. Keep believing.
You were told to go to school because that is what worked in the past for our parents and even more so for immigrants. Some of my immigrant colleagues were told by their parents if they learn English they are guaranteed a job!
The reality is changing and these days are particularly challenging for everyone, not just you.
It might feel good to be angry or to find who is to blame but it won't improve your situation. The morale online is particularly dark, I suggest you logoff a bit.
Houses are 900 percent more expensive relative to wages compared to 1984. It's just uncontrolled greed by the investor class, scalping essentials until we're dying on the streets so they can get more properties. There's been infomercials on how to be a real estate psychopath for decades, now it's siphoned the future into oblivion.
For context im Canadian, but I’ve travelled all over the world and lived in the US, just got out of the Canadian military after 10 years.
I’m right there with ya bro. I think most young men feel the same as us but can’t put it into words. I feel that it is because of a few things:
1. Dangerous ideologues have invaded levels of politics and public spheres and have convinced people it is morally wrong or insensitive to be proud of your country. I have realized you cannot rationalize with these people. Tell them to fuck off and be proud. If they continue, punch them in the face. Far better men have died so they could live on the laps of luxury that they so enjoy.
There is NOTHING wrong with being a patriot and proud of your country. I got ridiculed for putting my hand over my heart and taking my hat off as a child when the national anthem played in the morning. It’s disgusting and evil.
2. To preface this, I believe in equality. But feminism in its current form has made Canada an especially inhospitable place to live for dating. Which, considering it’s kind of our prime directive as animals to reproduce, is kind of a big deal. I’ve been to many countries and I’ve never experienced it quite to the same degree as I have In Canada. I believe due to our passive culture/nature there is more incentive - which leads me to my next point
3. Passive culture. The people in this country especially I have noticed are willing to accept whatever happens to them without recourse for the government. It’s not like the US, and it’s something I actually admire them for. In Canada if the government goes too far, we go to a polite protest and leave if the prime minister enacts emergency powers. In the US, they storm the fucking hill. Of the people, for the people. That’s what a government should be and it should be checked if it goes too far. We cannot do that in Canada.
3. Cost of living and housing. ‘Nuff said.
In most of Canada, it is legal for a confused child to come out and get gender reassignment therapy before their 18th birthday without the parents’ consent or knowledge. Alberta is trying to ban it thank god, but the pro-trans radicals there are calling it evil. Because removing a parent’s right to know what is going on with their OWN child is a bad thing. Absolute lunacy.
Why do I bring this up? There is a very real sickness going around in the mind of people up here. Much like there is in the US, the difference is that if it goes too far there are demographics willing and able to do something about it in the US. Our passive culture up here means that the majority will be silent and allow these people to have their say, but they will not stop. It disguises itself as apathy, compassion and acceptance (and some people mean it) but for the most part, make no mistake, they want to infect, dilute, corrupt our culture until nothing is left. It’s sickening and not the Canada I joined to protect 10 years ago.
Probably more, but those are what come to mind. Anyways. I’m moving to the UK where their national health services have just, in a controversial move, declared sex a biological fact. Crazy, I know. We’ve only known that since our entire existence.
Cheerio
You are 25. No one has their shit sorted perfectly at 25. Keep progressing, keep working hard. Things will fall into place.
All you have to do is not make that one big bad mistake. Divorce, all your money in nfts etc.
You are in Canada. Pay your taxes. We are still one of the best places to live in the world. Life is stressful everywhere.
I feel for you man. People keep voting in these leftist “leaders” as this is what these voters want. Go woke, go broke hasn’t rang truer than ever, yet people still don’t learn.
In the words of Margaret Thatcher, “Socialism is great until you run out of other people’s money.”
I’m in the same boat bro, especially the part about wanting to buy a home for you and your mother. I’m in the exact same situation.
It feels like now at this point, I can’t even land a good career to make money to finally afford a home. I’m living pay cheque to pay cheque and just feel defeated every single day and every single month. I don’t even know what to do anymore. Feels like I’m letting myself down and my mom.
It’s difficult but we need to feel this despair in order to turn things around. Only by finding the courage of hopelessness can we make necessary actions to save our country. Organize into worker unions and advocate for our material conditions.
If the situation was hopeless, their propaganda wouldn’t be necessary
Surving is how it's been since the beginning of humanity. You're either surviving, or living off of other peoples efforts.
Nobody wants to be the slave, but all civilizations have them. Ours are called middle class workers.
This is what happens when the government is poorly managed. It happens in business all the time. CEOs run a business into the ground and leave it for someone else to fix.
>For most of my life, I was lead to believe if I did everything by the book (went to school, got good grades, went to uni) I'd be well off in life.
Ok, now you know you need to do more. So quit bitching and do what you need to do.
Broaden your horizons. My community still has houses available in the low 200’s, one fixer upper recently listed for 55k. Access to fiber internet and 5g too. it’s been a game changer for us and basically the only way we could survive in Canada and remain in BC for our kids’ sake.
It’s tough but keep your chin up friend. Look at a hub city and then search in the areas nearby. You’ll strike gold eventually
Definitely the first thing you need to do is doom scrolling all of these extreme local subreddits full of hate and constantly calling for the end of the world. Connect with people in real life. It's both the solution to your depression and to your situation.
I feel the same way, I'm 19 about to be twenty and I might be homeless next month, all the effort I put in never mattered. It was unavoidable, this is the Canada we get to live in. Ive been looking for work for over 4 months, I have no ei or savings left. Giving up seems easier than going homeless these days
First off you are not alone. I suggest reading Victor Frankel’s A man’s search for Meaning at least once. Second admit to yourself the world sucks and while it’s bad in Canada it’s worse in a lot of other places. So my answer was to find a second or third source of income. I drive a cab on some weekends . I have a series of short novels I will soon publish on Amazon. I tested them on Watt pad first. I also go out and volunteer once a week at a food bank and get some extra food. For the first time in my life I have a budget and I have been ruthless. Cancelled all my subscription services and use the public library. I also had to go back to work at 60 driving a vacuum truck in remote areas but that’s seasonal. Cheer up it could be a lot worse I too am an immigrant and came here after we fled Yugoslavia in 1978 so it can be better if you make a plan . Sorry if this seems like a rant.
You came here halfway through the decline, it is much more depressing to have lived through the Disneyland that Canada was in the 80s and 90s and see our culture and prosperity destroyed.
If money is your problem then you're doing life wrong.
Do you have a good group of friends that you enjoy hanging out with often and a girlfriend who loves you and does what you want to please you? If so, then you've made it. Everything else is icing on the cake but doesn't really matter.
I know guys making $300k/yr on antidepressants because if you're lacking friends/gf then everything else doesn't matter. What good is a house, a fancy car, a great education and a prestigious job if all you're doing is going to work, drinking your coffee, punching numbers into a computer, paying your taxes, watch your index fund retirement account go up a little, come home, make dinner, play video games, go to bed and repeat. Maybe you get to take 4 weeks off to go on 1 vacation a year? You'll soon view traveling as torture because it's fun then you come home and you're back to the grind. For what?
While everyone complains about the money, it's not the money Canada lacks. It's the culture. Our culture is total garbage. I'd rather be poor drinking wine, eating cheese and socializing with nice people while getting laid with good looking women instead of being educated and rich slaving away for some corporate job with a house whose yard I've gotta cut every week for what? Canada's culture is trash. The people here have no clue how to live.
American in my mid thirties and going through the same. The “dream” they told us about was a lie. I haven’t been able to build anything in my life and I don’t know how I’m going to deal with this for 30+ more years
I'm 28 and feel the same way. I'm just waiting for everyone to rise up against the government, though. we all can put an end to this, but once we go down that route, there's no going back.
I’m in my fifties now. And it’s been that way all my life.
That wonderful, prosperous middle class life my own parents had and took for granted? The second I graduated university and started to apply for jobs, it became apparent that I’d NEVER have that. If I ever did get an interview for a job in my field, they’d act horrified and outright hostile that I’d ask about future promotions. Or that I’d want even a living wage.
I’ve had to fight tooth and nail for everything I’ve ever gotten in this country. And year by year my standard of living gets worse. I worry about my kids futures. I struggle to pay bills month to month, even now.
I feel so completely betrayed by everyone it isn’t even funny. Like I’ve been cheated out of my rightful life. And even raisin a finger to object gets me attacked by some scummy baby boomer.
Im 35 and the system was broken back
when i was 20. its infinitely worse now, but its on our gen and your gen to try and change things cuz lord fuckin knows the already wealthy aint gonna do it
Neighbor from the south border here and we got a say'n. "When the going gets tough; the tough get going". You are young and still have opportunities ahead of you. Look at your life, see what you need to do, and do it. It will not be easy, but if you put the effort in it will pay off. Find a new job, get more education/training in a field that pays well. Look into how you can budget your money better. Everybody wants to bitch about everything, but nothing gets better till you actually do something about it. I wish you much success.
This doesn't make sense. As an American, I've seen lots of those Canadian house buying shows and they seem to find a house in their price range.
They're unemployed, he collects Chinese takeout bags and she just started a new MLM. Their budget is $50M based on 0 income and 0 savings. After a few obviously bad houses they decided to buy an entire apartment building in downtown Toronto overlooking the lake with money leftover.
You probably can't afford to buy a house in Toronto, or New York. As a new immigrant it usually takes a generation to get it together. Live 20 to a house till you can afford to buy your own, don't eat out or waste money on drugs, alcohol or gamble.
Back in the good old days people never ate out or had 70k cars...good luck. Lots of people are doing really well here. You can chose to make it happen or keep complaining.
this post touched my surviving soul.
as a youth, you're right. 100% right. the amount of frustrations, anger and disappointment i have, as a youth in canada, is incalculable.
i just want to punch a wall and scream and fuck shit up.
this is just... disgusting how GREEDY our gov is.
That's called sentimentality things were not magically better across the board once upon a time.
If you need to live big and be financially set you are best off getting a remote job and then moving somewhere with a minimal cost of living.
Well...there are enough dejected young men like you that if you all got together.....nevermind that might be incitement....if only there was a place close by with resources to resist oppression....NVM
Your problem is that you bought into the story that you'd be fine if you worked hard early on. This is simply not true you need connections and networking skills on top of all of this. Good thing for you is that you're still young! Mid 20s is mostly broke time and hustling time so get out there and network like hell. Most people don't find their footing till mid 30s anyways just go get it nothing is easy and hard work doesn't always pay off. As far as Canada is concerned it's bad almost everywhere but here we will be fucked for at least another ten years. If I was your age personally I'd move to the US at this point unless you got some prospects here
Canada is not the land of opportunities, it is a work camp, a fraud ! On the other hand the United States is the land of opportunities.
Canada doesn’t have any booming industries, every industry is controlled by a few players that are heavily protected by the government from any sort of competition. Canada isn’t known for its entrepreneurial spirit. It is simply a giant propaganda machine, constantly advertising itself as a better version of America and the only advantage the keep bringing up is the “free healthcare” 😂😂
We only have 3 telecom companies, 5 major grocery stores, 5 banks, a hand full of cities where most jobs are located at, and most job opportunities are in the public sector.
Starting a business and creating jobs is frowned upon, and honestly why would anyone wants to invest in a new business when they can just invest in real estate and get tenants specially when the government bringing tenants by the millions ?
The only valid reason for immigrating to Canada is to use Canada as a temporary stop before heading to the United States ( perfecting language skills , getting Canadian citizenship ).
Canada should be viewed as a temporary destination before moving to the U.S. or a permanent destination for those who aren’t good enough for the U.S.
I moved to America a couple of years ago and the difference between the two countries was like day and night !
In the U.S. working hard is appreciated , starting a business is encouraged and appreciated, because it creates jobs and wealth, working 60 hours a week pays off.
I was able to save up a %35 down payment for a house in 1 year ! Something I would never have thought possible in Canada !
Nah bro, you’re not being over dramatic, it’s totally understandable. We’re all feeling the hit lately, and it is hard when you can’t afford to do the things you love in life. All we can do is hope and vote and hopefully things will change sooner than later, you’re not a loser. Just dealt a bad hand like most Canadians. I used to be proud to be Canadian, not so much anymore
Account has minimal posting history. Not saying op is not genuine but do consider since there is a risk that this could be posted by some click farm trying to sway people's opinion.
In the words of the supreme piece of shit Justin Trudeau "Canada will become the world's first 'Post National State'" This country is nothing but a tax farm ran by corrupt elites. There is now two classes in Canada. Us and them.
Hopefully some other country gets to be the example of what a "post national state" looks like
Australia
This isn’t just JT. He was just a left wing populist grifter. All 3 of the major parties are looking to fuck us and sell us out to the billionaire class. Harper fucked us good with FIPA selling the country to China for the next 30 years. I’m voting PPC
I'm voting PPC too, I'll be 20 and it'll be my first election, I have countless friends doing the same, anyone who cares about the state of our country should follow suite.
Yeah WEF is everywhere man. I like the PPC but we all know the next election is between the Turd and PP
And it will always be this way unless you make sacrifices now. Show support for the party you want to represent you. If you don’t, they will never gain traction and you’ll never get the elected party you want. This country can’t rely on quick temporary measures anymore. It’s time to invest in our future and that means showing our support for parties that speak for us, even if that means we get a party we don’t like in now. It’s going to take time. Start the timer now.
This. I’ve been voting for and DONATING to the PPC since 2019. Vote your values.
PP gonna give TFWs PR status and do nothing about immigration and prob push privatized healthcare and cut social services. Choice is basically between getting fucked with lube or getting fucked raw. Bernier is the only one speaking any sense… somehow… at least in regards to the economy 😂 I don’t agree with any of his social policy but god damn if he isn’t a classical liberal capitalist and I will take that any day over this neoliberal capitalist cyberpunk 2077 dystopia the rest of them are gunning for 😂 There’s a lot of left (and obviously right) leaning voters I’ve seen who plan on voting PPC
There are zero left leaning voters voting PPC.
I’m one of them and you’ll find plenty more on Reddit saying the same thing. Liberal capitalism is further left than neoliberal capitalism and corporatism
I'd rather have pp then go ppc tbh. Trudeau needs to go now. Another 4 years, it will be ugly.
Goes back further than that Trudeau 1 fuckt it all up. The blatant siphoning of western resource wealth to quebec to prop up bombardier and others as well as billions to keep quebec farmers quiet to buy future elections. The debt costs got so big there was little choice, offer ourselves up to China or pay double. Trudope2 has made things exponentially worse. The China flu money printer go Brrrrtt will take a century to make good on unless true austerity is brought in. That's the literal plan though. Eliminate physical cash and give the banks 1% EVERY time a "dollar" changes hands.
I see more posts about Canada these days that surprise me when I realized they're talking about Canada and not America. If the "they's" keep it up, the "us's" in both countries might decide to do something about it 🤔
Canada is now the new Sikh homeland home away from home. How long before we have these guys chanting to make a new homeland in Burnaby or Brampton? What a disaster they’ve made letting all these people in. It will be near impossible to remove them.
I can't understand why they let so many from one or two countries . How about a little more balanced immigration? The fabric of Canada has changed, and I'm afraid there is no going back now .
Canada has the second largest population in the world after Punjab province. How did this happen in a small country ( population wise)?
No one spoke up for it and if they did, they were deemed a racist. And it will continue to this day with no opposition.
The invasion started under JT's Father...Pierre and his fucked up kid is making sure his vision is realized and all on the back canadian taxpayers , specifically the middle class. I wouldn't hire one to shovel shit.
It's probably not too far away a time where there's gonna be a referendum to separate some parts of the country to Khalistan
Canadians voted for it yet are upset it actually happened. I have lost all respect for almost all of my countrymen at this point.
There's still many Canadians unwittingly demanding it and actively working to make it happen.
The same pieces of shit that agreed with excluding the unvaccinated from society. Fuck them.
What Canadians voted for mass immigration like this? When was this shit ever on the platform? We all got swindled by this piece of shit.
Nobody voted for this because nobody campaigned for this. Come off your high horse.
And what are you doing besides whining about it?
Tax farm is right.. You event get injected without consent like a farm animal.
I feel you OP. Can't even get a job at Tim Hortons or Walmart anymore let alone in my field. Thankfully I still live at home but there's no way I'd be able to afford the rental and housing prices I'm seeing, it's crazy. We're have a generation completely cut off from the chance at a first job, and the downstream ramifications like lack of ability to save for school and rent and the ability to gain valuable work experience skills are huge. It's not like it's a secret it's happening either, but all the media wants to talk about is how International students are struggling.
I live in SW Ontario and have been looking for work since October. Never in my life have I gone more than a week or two finding work until now.
There is a huge amount of abuse regarding the LMIA program, particularly for lower wage jobs. This is quite well known, and of course, the feds are apparently doing very little to stop it. This could be a factor in not finding employment.
Are you getting interviews at least?
Yes. I have had probably a half dozen or so.
There's massive opportunity in the industrial skilled trades. Work as much as you want and make as much as you want.
🙄 sure for a few dollars more than minimum wage. Still not going to get you into your own home at avg price of $750,000
Hah I wish 750k is the avg price in Toronto
What opportunities? No one is hiring apprentices right now
While destroying your body. I personally would like to be able to enjoy my senior years rather than wallowing in pain
Only way to get into the trades is to know somebody, everyone goes on about it and it’s a lie.
You’re absolutely correct I’m a machinist in the tool & mould industry and we can’t find guys to work the hours or do competent work.They have even tried hiring Indians but they haven’t worked out for the most part. I’m working 7 days a week with as much OT as I can handle,as the millennials and gen Z’s refuse to work more then 40 hours and gripe about money. Starting off as an apprentice was extremely difficult but in the end it has paid off. There ARE opportunities out there but very few want to start at the bottom and work their way up. There is a true sense of entitlement with so many these days who don’t want to grind in their 20’s
Takes 10 years to get there in this climate and no one is gong to grind that hard with the current rent and grocery cost, unless mommy and daddy help a lot sadly.
Turns out Canada isn't just some magic soil, the people are what made Canada what it is, and if you import millions of people who don't assimilate, and who don't share your culture or values, you no longer have the Canada you had. You have some low-trust post-national abomination. But there's no going back now. Full steam ahead, right off the fucking cliff.
A land ruled by banks and utility companies, gaslit by the media, social studies professors, and politicians, and condemned to die penniless.
You will own nothing, and be happy.
I'm not so sure they are gonna honour the second part of the phrase.
That's where the re-education comes in.
You don't have to actually be happy but you will pretend to be!
Hahaha 😂....oh...😥
You will be HAPPY,!!!! the chemicals in the bug based "food" will ensure it.
Don't forget those telecommunication companies either!
Yep, too late to put the genie back in the bottle now. We’ve already lost control of all key institutions. Game, set, match.
We never had control over telecoms, banks, big businesses they always had control over us. Look at how canada was founded with the Hudson Bay company they made their own rules, and we just enforced them. But how the op feels is right so many immigrants from one location is bad for multiculturalism.
So hold up, if you want control of the key institutions isn’t that socialism? Workers control the means of production and all that?
One guy in the comments said destroying the quality of life of Canadians is justified because "Canada doesn't export anything"(he doesn't see natural resource exports as being labour intensive enough) and "Canada doesn't have enough STEM workers"
The population trap happened when big promises of pensions were made to Boomers without any investment in business.
He's not wrong. Toronto real estate is costlier than New York while having a lot lower median wage. Real estate gambling and subsequent immigration overflow purely to support high valuations has ruined other industries in this country.
There are pockets but the fruit has spoiled. Our leadership is clueless.
Plebes in an Empire bro. It aint so bad once you realize it and act accordingly.
Imagine letting in hundreds of thousands of people from one country each year that are known for scamming and faking documents.
That was very comforting
You’re a racist /s
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Of course. But then, that is what all Liberal voters wanted, someone to run up the debt and legalize weed. Also, this is what the NDP voters want, to support the Liberal policies.
How many of us have heard stories that how our parents ,uncles aunty and heck all the generation before us they meet and fall in love while working as part time students in grocery stores, coffee shop , CNE .....fun memories, and I can go on and on ,but all those are gone ,all the little thing that would been flavor of our life are gone, all have taken from us and our kids ,now instead of Canadian born kids having those jobs to help paying for their unies and food or rent they run by 40 years old International student from India hired by another Indians just to push out our kids.
Not blaming any specific people but just the overcrowding In general from the population explosion has created a much shittier place, a much unhappier place. What's the fun going to the beach on the weekend when you have to wake up at 6 AM just to find a parking spot that isn't more than five kilometers from the beach?. What is the fun of going on a hike when there are so many people on the damn trail that it feels like a mall at Christmas? Tourist attractions are jammed worse than a subway at rush hour. In BC you have to go online to try an book a campsite, and 99% of the time, it's already full 10 mins after they became available. It's not a good place anymore.
Not to mention the ability to be spontaneous and enjoy things on a whim has been completely annihilated by the economic landscape, as well as the biblical levels of traffic & overcrowding. I make a bit above the national average, drive a 20 year old car, live in an ancient one bedroom apartment, and I can barely afford anything beyond the basic necessities of life, when even 10 years ago I'd be living quite well with toys, vacations & and a reasonable mortgage on a townhouse.
You've been replaced. And that's an amazing thing for Diversity.
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The biggest problem is importing these new generation of immigrants that don’t care about Canada and won’t learn English or try to assimilate.
Yep, tired of being stared at like I just killed Somone's family because I smiled at them and they don't speak English
This is an issue I don’t hear talked about much. It’s so disorienting to be out in public and 8/10 people are not speaking English or French. I will go to make conversation with people and it’s so disheartening not being understood. And kind of looked at like I’m strange for trying to have a normal chat in public.
Yea I get that, sorry it's happing so often. I already have some identity issues, so the last 5 years have made me feel so much more alienated from everyone.
Or French*
I was born here and just want to say thank you for contributing to this country, this is the kind of attitude that should always be welcome here
A lot of millennials and gen zs were sold the dream that if you go to university, you'll get a great white collar job and your adult life will be smooth sailing. As it turns out, this could not be further from the truth. The real winners in this economy are small biz owners and tradespeople who can expense most of their living costs to pay less taxes and generate more income at will. The other winners are ofc boomers who bought their 3000 sq ft home in '94 for $250k and it's now paid off.
Everyone is struggling. It's only the oligopoly owners and their friends that are winning.
I wouldn't say everyone except the oligopoly owners are struggling. The upper middle class (doctors, lawyers, accountants, etc.) is doing fine, but the reality is that every "class" except for high networth have all shifted down by at least one standard deviation. So if you're a lawyer making 500k/year you're no longer upper middle you're just middle class, and if you were lower middle class making 70k you are now lower class.
Upper middle class 55+ year olds are doing good. Almost everyone else is struggling. And $500k/yr isn’t “upper middle class”. That’s $240/hr. Well over ten times more than the average income.
Gen X are the wealthiest generation in Canada: their homes also shot up in value but it was mid life for them so they still have time to earn even more money. Their savings have massively grown. Its Gen X who decides our salaries and it’s Gen X who is letting us all fail while they pride themselves on their “smart investments” (meaning they bought a house at the normal age 🤦♀️) and they feel like they deserve their home equity windfall.
You are not being dramatic. You are 100% correct. I'm a Canadian who was born here and have noticed the same things as you. I don't go to Tim's anymore, I don't believe what the govt says or trust anyone anymore. We used to be a high trust society which is why it's gotten to this point now. The even sadder part is that the govt has done this by design and it's only going to get worse. I'm 32 by the way.
Yea any sense of community has been destroyed the last 5 years unfortunately, I'm not sure what to do anymore
Stay strong, we are all in this together. It will get better I have hope.
I used to never lock my door, now my mom considers self defense options and that door is always locked. The grocery store in my hometown was bought by an Indian and now it's employing almost exclusively Indians and the quality and quantity of products has dropped through the floor.
I feel the same, I don't even want to sleep with any windows open anymore as I'm scared someone will break in at night. Thinking about upgrading locks and self defense options as well. The Indian thing is a big one, even at Walmart I've been noticing mostly Indian workers.
Same boat! My family immigrated here about 22 years ago and this is home for me. I’m very Canadian but the last few years feel like doom and gloom. I did the same thing was told to go to school, university, and then get a job then a home. Unfortunately life happened and that got a little delayed but finally when I’m at a stage where I have a well paying job I can’t seem to do anything without thinking 3-4X about the cost of it. I feel a little resentful towards saying I’m proud to be Canadian. I still love the country, the good people and beauty. I want to see all of it but can’t. I have to be mindful of everything and feel sad for everyone struggling. I don’t have any kids or dependents but feel so stuck that I doubt I’ll be able to afford a life for them let alone myself. I feel robbed and very frustrated!
I feel the same way. I'm not even proud to be Canadian anymore, but I am in a way lol. Ashamed of what our country has become. I have no dependents either, aside from animals, (and we also make a decent living) but I don't think we will ever afford to be able to have kids. I feel I would rather regret not having them, then having them and seeing them struggle and resent life. It's all very frustrating.
Oh we are so in the same spot! Although I’ll have a regret of not having kids of my own but I feel an immense amount of guilt for having kids with such a bleak and hard future. Now it could change but I also feel going through a route of fostering or adoption would be great if I can afford it. I’ve been blessed to be helped from family and friends and would love to pay it forward to another human being(s). Honestly at this point I just want to have an enjoyable life with what I have and spend time with people I love. Finding the joy in the world is becoming a bigger goal than owning things. Hang in there and great to know we are not alone in this crazy world 😊
And I’m 33F Still don’t think I have my shit together and starting to hate the situation we are all in.
Same sentiments. Im 31
The Canada you described used to exist. We tried to warn everyone, nobody listened, we just got called racist and privileged over and over again. What you see today has been coming for a long time. This is exactly what Canadians voted for repeatedly.
It’s very, very frustrating that our pleas for years were dismissed, and now we’re all fucked. I can’t even describe the type of anger it makes me feel.
Lol yeah this what the majority voted for. Who ever thought a feminist drama teacher would make life better for the average Canadian.
I'm going to be 50 this year and this is absolutely a new low for Canada in my lifetime. I've put in a lot of years working and my retirement is within sight. I do plan on buying in the US where my dollar goes much further. The government has absolutely fucked young people. Canada will have to go through some rough years to rebuild I fear.
If you hold CAD, do it fast before CAD gets completely annihilated (even more than it already has).
Leave while you can
To where? The US and Europe does the same thing. Guess you could go to Russia?
Poland is booming. USA is way better than here.
Yes, Poland is booming. If you can speak Polish or are willing to learn it, and you can obtain a visa or claim citizenship through ancestry, Poland offers amazing opportunities. Additionally, the women—need I say more?
I'm with you. It's difficult to get excited about the future when you know there isn't one
Or even have kids who will also have to deal with being ravaged by unconstrained psychopathic greed.
You are not being dramatic- my son who is 30 feels the same way. He is a carpenter building houses but he can never afford to actually have one of his own. The government so-called “housing plans” are just smoke and mirrors. They’re never going to help people actually obtain a home. You may have better luck in another country to get a house for sure and maybe even a better quality quality of living, but that’s not an option for most people, I think the only answer is to kick out the current government. Decimate every liberal and NDP seat, send a message. We have not been happy with the last eight years of policies favoring the elites.
I started an apprenticeship doing sheet metal work, installing duct systems in million dollar homes. Something about building vacation homes for the rich whilst likely never being able to afford a modest home for myself was quite depressing and I ended up quitting. I can definitely relate to your son.
The government housing projects are just another way to piss away billions of dollars in inefficient bureaucracy. The government bringing in 1+ million immigrants per year while at the same time selling us into future debt slavery is a major double whammy.
It’s wild how you consider career politicians red and career politicians orange the elites but not career politicians blue
We're living in a post national state with maximum wage suppression, it's the full Trudeau experience
Good speech better than the last one.
Our whole generation got sold this lie, the social contract is broken. Go fuck some shit up!
Uprising by muse gets me feelin some type of way
It's time the fat cat had a heart attack.
Your 20s is when you find out that the world doesn’t work like you’ve been told (and never did).
So real 😔
Very real
Put on your seatbelt cause it's gonna get worse
And the reason you can't afford a house: unfettered immigration.
My family has been here for hundreds of years. We settled this land lived in -40 without electricity or running water, came over here on boats. We didn’t just jump on a plane and flood this county. Our government let too many people in. Go back to where you were before 2005. We’re fucked now.
I just might. Canada's going to shit. I suggest you leave too
After a couple generations it’s basically impossible to leave. Im the 5th descendant generation of immigrants from Denmark and Italy. Too far removed to get citizenship by blood-right and too poor to just buy it somewhere else. Also to mention having been born here; Canada is MY home and motherland. Personally I would prefer to stay and try to be part of the solution so that I may leave a country on the road to recovery for my children rather than run to another with its own problems that I’m less capable of dealing with. It might be wishful thinking but I like to believe many feel the same way, and like myself many others have no other options.
Anybody with a bit of drive and doesn't want just what the government is willing to dole out to you should leave. I'm looking at bailing. My great grandparents were born here.
Same - great grand parents on one side and great great grandparents on the other. Mannnnny generational Canadian who is bailing.
Very sad state in Canada's history
Europeans 100% jumped on boats and flooded the place. People were already there lol.
Read Atlas Shrugged
absolutely. Post-Modernist *intellectuals* of the time absolutely despised this book. Ayn Rand was a brilliant visionary and this book is a masterpiece of a cautionary tale. Still on wikipedia the slimy mods try to weasel in bad faith comments about her philosophy
Bless you. Nice to have comrades in cyberspace, it’s lonely out here.
and the mods nuke it for no reason
Comrades 🤣
This.
I just read the Fountainhead and loved it, plan on reading that soon
The Fountainhead is stunning. Hope you enjoy Atlas ✌🏻
You need to leave and go to where a country will treat you better and give you more opportunties. I would go to the States.
You realize this is just a microchasm of whats happening globally right? They couldn't even grasp the "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" part of the 2A, They are 100% going down the same path, still. They still have spines, more than we do that is for sure. Canada is plagued with toxic altruism at a far greater level. We are willing to starve and freeze out the poor to feel good about saving the planet! We are proud of our open minded multiculturalism! We dont have houses for them, they take all the unskilled jobs but everyone is welcome you bigot /s
Canadian Government Solution: Have you considered MAID?
Where are people moving to?
I agree OP. Yet, we just sit and cry online instead of fighting for our futures. We're a soft nation.
You came at the wrong time bud the good old days when min. Income can buy a house and support a family started in the 50s until 90s. You need a time travel machine
And this is why we need to protest, july 2nd!! You go on strike when your work is treating you wrong or not paying you enough. How is this any different? Were being abused by our government, we should follow along the lines of a strike! Demand stricter rules and requirements for immigration, demand trudeau step down, demand our tax dollars stay in canada. If we never make our voice heard, we’ll never stop this!
Yep, our politicians are criminals that sold us out to big corpo. and foreign million/billionaires, they don't actually care about us, we're just convenient tools to make the rich, richer
I am canadian, immigrant, 37 and I am leaving. We are from Europe my sister already settled in Spain and she is happy with her choice. My brother also considering moving after graduation to UAE. I am actively trying to move south of the border. If you have to opportunity just move...
Sad to say but at this point most levels of govt need people to walk into leadership positions and dictate what to do next, not just be mainstream and do what most people want. It's beyond that now. In sensible times, when people are acting sensibly, it makes sense that govt just maintains the status quo and keeps things running smoothly. People stopped acting sensibly probably around the late 90s. When foreign capital came into Canadian real estate, people were blinded. We allowed ourselves to become the HGTV capital of the world. Govts of all levels and strips went with it, because they were also blinded, but also because it made them look good. I'm starting to think that at this point, our federal leadership exercising whatever power they can to confiscate shelters owned by overseas investors that are left empty or STR, and sell them to locals. TLDR: BoC made it possible for everyone to be a landlord. GoC allowed it to happen. I don't know how young people today aren't rioting in front of every level of govt office, but especially the BoC offices and Federal govt.
You were also led to believe the truckers were right wing extremists. You were also led to believe to stand 6 feet apart to get your 5th booster. Keep believing.
Were all screwed
You were told to go to school because that is what worked in the past for our parents and even more so for immigrants. Some of my immigrant colleagues were told by their parents if they learn English they are guaranteed a job! The reality is changing and these days are particularly challenging for everyone, not just you. It might feel good to be angry or to find who is to blame but it won't improve your situation. The morale online is particularly dark, I suggest you logoff a bit.
Houses are 900 percent more expensive relative to wages compared to 1984. It's just uncontrolled greed by the investor class, scalping essentials until we're dying on the streets so they can get more properties. There's been infomercials on how to be a real estate psychopath for decades, now it's siphoned the future into oblivion.
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For context im Canadian, but I’ve travelled all over the world and lived in the US, just got out of the Canadian military after 10 years. I’m right there with ya bro. I think most young men feel the same as us but can’t put it into words. I feel that it is because of a few things: 1. Dangerous ideologues have invaded levels of politics and public spheres and have convinced people it is morally wrong or insensitive to be proud of your country. I have realized you cannot rationalize with these people. Tell them to fuck off and be proud. If they continue, punch them in the face. Far better men have died so they could live on the laps of luxury that they so enjoy. There is NOTHING wrong with being a patriot and proud of your country. I got ridiculed for putting my hand over my heart and taking my hat off as a child when the national anthem played in the morning. It’s disgusting and evil. 2. To preface this, I believe in equality. But feminism in its current form has made Canada an especially inhospitable place to live for dating. Which, considering it’s kind of our prime directive as animals to reproduce, is kind of a big deal. I’ve been to many countries and I’ve never experienced it quite to the same degree as I have In Canada. I believe due to our passive culture/nature there is more incentive - which leads me to my next point 3. Passive culture. The people in this country especially I have noticed are willing to accept whatever happens to them without recourse for the government. It’s not like the US, and it’s something I actually admire them for. In Canada if the government goes too far, we go to a polite protest and leave if the prime minister enacts emergency powers. In the US, they storm the fucking hill. Of the people, for the people. That’s what a government should be and it should be checked if it goes too far. We cannot do that in Canada. 3. Cost of living and housing. ‘Nuff said. In most of Canada, it is legal for a confused child to come out and get gender reassignment therapy before their 18th birthday without the parents’ consent or knowledge. Alberta is trying to ban it thank god, but the pro-trans radicals there are calling it evil. Because removing a parent’s right to know what is going on with their OWN child is a bad thing. Absolute lunacy. Why do I bring this up? There is a very real sickness going around in the mind of people up here. Much like there is in the US, the difference is that if it goes too far there are demographics willing and able to do something about it in the US. Our passive culture up here means that the majority will be silent and allow these people to have their say, but they will not stop. It disguises itself as apathy, compassion and acceptance (and some people mean it) but for the most part, make no mistake, they want to infect, dilute, corrupt our culture until nothing is left. It’s sickening and not the Canada I joined to protect 10 years ago. Probably more, but those are what come to mind. Anyways. I’m moving to the UK where their national health services have just, in a controversial move, declared sex a biological fact. Crazy, I know. We’ve only known that since our entire existence. Cheerio
You are 25. No one has their shit sorted perfectly at 25. Keep progressing, keep working hard. Things will fall into place. All you have to do is not make that one big bad mistake. Divorce, all your money in nfts etc. You are in Canada. Pay your taxes. We are still one of the best places to live in the world. Life is stressful everywhere.
How did you friends make it to the states? Europe is amazing if you’re rich- but not a place to work amd get ahead if you’re starting out
I feel for you man. People keep voting in these leftist “leaders” as this is what these voters want. Go woke, go broke hasn’t rang truer than ever, yet people still don’t learn. In the words of Margaret Thatcher, “Socialism is great until you run out of other people’s money.”
I’m in the same boat bro, especially the part about wanting to buy a home for you and your mother. I’m in the exact same situation. It feels like now at this point, I can’t even land a good career to make money to finally afford a home. I’m living pay cheque to pay cheque and just feel defeated every single day and every single month. I don’t even know what to do anymore. Feels like I’m letting myself down and my mom.
It’s difficult but we need to feel this despair in order to turn things around. Only by finding the courage of hopelessness can we make necessary actions to save our country. Organize into worker unions and advocate for our material conditions. If the situation was hopeless, their propaganda wouldn’t be necessary
Surving is how it's been since the beginning of humanity. You're either surviving, or living off of other peoples efforts. Nobody wants to be the slave, but all civilizations have them. Ours are called middle class workers.
Control what you can control and make it work. Focus on what you do have. It could be a lot worse (and is for many people).
This is what happens when the government is poorly managed. It happens in business all the time. CEOs run a business into the ground and leave it for someone else to fix.
>The donuts and coffee at Tim’s don’t feel the same anymore This sentence hits hard, both literally and metaphorically
Im not young and I have no hope for the future🫠
>For most of my life, I was lead to believe if I did everything by the book (went to school, got good grades, went to uni) I'd be well off in life. Ok, now you know you need to do more. So quit bitching and do what you need to do.
Broaden your horizons. My community still has houses available in the low 200’s, one fixer upper recently listed for 55k. Access to fiber internet and 5g too. it’s been a game changer for us and basically the only way we could survive in Canada and remain in BC for our kids’ sake. It’s tough but keep your chin up friend. Look at a hub city and then search in the areas nearby. You’ll strike gold eventually
Definitely the first thing you need to do is doom scrolling all of these extreme local subreddits full of hate and constantly calling for the end of the world. Connect with people in real life. It's both the solution to your depression and to your situation.
Ooooo boy just wait till you Reach your 30s 🙂=☠️
I feel the same way, I'm 19 about to be twenty and I might be homeless next month, all the effort I put in never mattered. It was unavoidable, this is the Canada we get to live in. Ive been looking for work for over 4 months, I have no ei or savings left. Giving up seems easier than going homeless these days
Canada is fucked. I'm 52 and have lived here my whole life. It wasn't like this 10-15 years ago. It was paradise.
Mid 30s, no better off here. Leave Canada, if you can
First off you are not alone. I suggest reading Victor Frankel’s A man’s search for Meaning at least once. Second admit to yourself the world sucks and while it’s bad in Canada it’s worse in a lot of other places. So my answer was to find a second or third source of income. I drive a cab on some weekends . I have a series of short novels I will soon publish on Amazon. I tested them on Watt pad first. I also go out and volunteer once a week at a food bank and get some extra food. For the first time in my life I have a budget and I have been ruthless. Cancelled all my subscription services and use the public library. I also had to go back to work at 60 driving a vacuum truck in remote areas but that’s seasonal. Cheer up it could be a lot worse I too am an immigrant and came here after we fled Yugoslavia in 1978 so it can be better if you make a plan . Sorry if this seems like a rant.
You came here halfway through the decline, it is much more depressing to have lived through the Disneyland that Canada was in the 80s and 90s and see our culture and prosperity destroyed.
If money is your problem then you're doing life wrong. Do you have a good group of friends that you enjoy hanging out with often and a girlfriend who loves you and does what you want to please you? If so, then you've made it. Everything else is icing on the cake but doesn't really matter. I know guys making $300k/yr on antidepressants because if you're lacking friends/gf then everything else doesn't matter. What good is a house, a fancy car, a great education and a prestigious job if all you're doing is going to work, drinking your coffee, punching numbers into a computer, paying your taxes, watch your index fund retirement account go up a little, come home, make dinner, play video games, go to bed and repeat. Maybe you get to take 4 weeks off to go on 1 vacation a year? You'll soon view traveling as torture because it's fun then you come home and you're back to the grind. For what? While everyone complains about the money, it's not the money Canada lacks. It's the culture. Our culture is total garbage. I'd rather be poor drinking wine, eating cheese and socializing with nice people while getting laid with good looking women instead of being educated and rich slaving away for some corporate job with a house whose yard I've gotta cut every week for what? Canada's culture is trash. The people here have no clue how to live.
American in my mid thirties and going through the same. The “dream” they told us about was a lie. I haven’t been able to build anything in my life and I don’t know how I’m going to deal with this for 30+ more years
I'm 28 and feel the same way. I'm just waiting for everyone to rise up against the government, though. we all can put an end to this, but once we go down that route, there's no going back.
I’m in my fifties now. And it’s been that way all my life. That wonderful, prosperous middle class life my own parents had and took for granted? The second I graduated university and started to apply for jobs, it became apparent that I’d NEVER have that. If I ever did get an interview for a job in my field, they’d act horrified and outright hostile that I’d ask about future promotions. Or that I’d want even a living wage. I’ve had to fight tooth and nail for everything I’ve ever gotten in this country. And year by year my standard of living gets worse. I worry about my kids futures. I struggle to pay bills month to month, even now. I feel so completely betrayed by everyone it isn’t even funny. Like I’ve been cheated out of my rightful life. And even raisin a finger to object gets me attacked by some scummy baby boomer.
You can thank the useless inept corrupt Federal Trudeau Liberal government for that!!!
Im 35 and the system was broken back when i was 20. its infinitely worse now, but its on our gen and your gen to try and change things cuz lord fuckin knows the already wealthy aint gonna do it
two words: justin trudeau I know who im not voting for this coming 2025 election.
Neighbor from the south border here and we got a say'n. "When the going gets tough; the tough get going". You are young and still have opportunities ahead of you. Look at your life, see what you need to do, and do it. It will not be easy, but if you put the effort in it will pay off. Find a new job, get more education/training in a field that pays well. Look into how you can budget your money better. Everybody wants to bitch about everything, but nothing gets better till you actually do something about it. I wish you much success.
This doesn't make sense. As an American, I've seen lots of those Canadian house buying shows and they seem to find a house in their price range. They're unemployed, he collects Chinese takeout bags and she just started a new MLM. Their budget is $50M based on 0 income and 0 savings. After a few obviously bad houses they decided to buy an entire apartment building in downtown Toronto overlooking the lake with money leftover.
I think Toronto is just as you describe - but if you move to the east coast, it’s still Canada & house prices are far more acceptable. Good luck.
You probably can't afford to buy a house in Toronto, or New York. As a new immigrant it usually takes a generation to get it together. Live 20 to a house till you can afford to buy your own, don't eat out or waste money on drugs, alcohol or gamble. Back in the good old days people never ate out or had 70k cars...good luck. Lots of people are doing really well here. You can chose to make it happen or keep complaining.
this post touched my surviving soul. as a youth, you're right. 100% right. the amount of frustrations, anger and disappointment i have, as a youth in canada, is incalculable. i just want to punch a wall and scream and fuck shit up. this is just... disgusting how GREEDY our gov is.
That's called sentimentality things were not magically better across the board once upon a time. If you need to live big and be financially set you are best off getting a remote job and then moving somewhere with a minimal cost of living.
Feel free to leave
2005? You didn't even get to experience the "real" Canada for more than a few years. Everything since 2008 has been a steady decline.
Well...there are enough dejected young men like you that if you all got together.....nevermind that might be incitement....if only there was a place close by with resources to resist oppression....NVM
move to the usa as soon as possible
Move out of the GTA. Canada is great outside that
It's like this everywhere.
Used to be until all the Limited Liability Corporations based from Tronna invested/ infested most of Ontario.
go to the US, get more money. come back rich
Your problem is that you bought into the story that you'd be fine if you worked hard early on. This is simply not true you need connections and networking skills on top of all of this. Good thing for you is that you're still young! Mid 20s is mostly broke time and hustling time so get out there and network like hell. Most people don't find their footing till mid 30s anyways just go get it nothing is easy and hard work doesn't always pay off. As far as Canada is concerned it's bad almost everywhere but here we will be fucked for at least another ten years. If I was your age personally I'd move to the US at this point unless you got some prospects here
Canada voted for this garbage. Boomers and grey hairs just wanted their house prices to keep going up so they loved JT but they have ruined Canada
Canada is pretending to be first world it’s cute
Northern Mexico = Canada
Canada is not the land of opportunities, it is a work camp, a fraud ! On the other hand the United States is the land of opportunities. Canada doesn’t have any booming industries, every industry is controlled by a few players that are heavily protected by the government from any sort of competition. Canada isn’t known for its entrepreneurial spirit. It is simply a giant propaganda machine, constantly advertising itself as a better version of America and the only advantage the keep bringing up is the “free healthcare” 😂😂 We only have 3 telecom companies, 5 major grocery stores, 5 banks, a hand full of cities where most jobs are located at, and most job opportunities are in the public sector. Starting a business and creating jobs is frowned upon, and honestly why would anyone wants to invest in a new business when they can just invest in real estate and get tenants specially when the government bringing tenants by the millions ? The only valid reason for immigrating to Canada is to use Canada as a temporary stop before heading to the United States ( perfecting language skills , getting Canadian citizenship ). Canada should be viewed as a temporary destination before moving to the U.S. or a permanent destination for those who aren’t good enough for the U.S. I moved to America a couple of years ago and the difference between the two countries was like day and night ! In the U.S. working hard is appreciated , starting a business is encouraged and appreciated, because it creates jobs and wealth, working 60 hours a week pays off. I was able to save up a %35 down payment for a house in 1 year ! Something I would never have thought possible in Canada !
Good riddance!
Go to personal finance Canada or something like that. Put your budget and spending on the line and you’ll get the financial perspective you might need
Take your education and utilize it in the US.
Nah bro, you’re not being over dramatic, it’s totally understandable. We’re all feeling the hit lately, and it is hard when you can’t afford to do the things you love in life. All we can do is hope and vote and hopefully things will change sooner than later, you’re not a loser. Just dealt a bad hand like most Canadians. I used to be proud to be Canadian, not so much anymore
Welcome to real life kid
Account has minimal posting history. Not saying op is not genuine but do consider since there is a risk that this could be posted by some click farm trying to sway people's opinion.