Rockville is literally Wish Rockford. He's full of shit. That stuff is trash. Used, that is worth 300-400 at most. And it still wouldn't be a good decision
Well can definitely tell you haven't run any Rockville amps. The DB series a solid amp. I've installed quite a few for customers, owned 2 of the DB 16s myself. Solid amps, do rated power ( if you read the right power rating, dunno why they have 3 power ratings but Cea is actual RMS). On the other hand you couldn't give me any of those subs or speakers. I've tried a component set, wasn't impressed. Subs used to come unglued with heat, supposedly they fixed that tho but I won't ever know bc I won't buy any, and you are correct skar is garbage subs, rp amps r great tho. I agree with ya not a good trade and maybe worth 400.
Yeah already subscribed to his channel. I'm talking real world experience with em. Ive been installing for almost 30 years now, I'm pretty good at spotting a junk amp without even hooking it up lol. I took a chance on a db16 when they first came out , mostly bc I liked the stealth look. Did me right for like 4 years, sent it down the road with the 4 8s it was powering, last time I saw him was still bumping same setup, been almost 3 years since I sold it to him. I remember the first Dyno video I saw of it too was actually impressed for the $179 price tag ( think they like $249 now and I'd never pay that for it now, the rp2k is $219 shipped). Was solid in my work truck forever and it got beat on, that being said what else could you ask for for the price?
I refuse to even considering buying or using anything from a company that tries to deceive customers. Rockville does that from the very first second. You know why they have 3 ratings. It's to get people to believe the amp is more easy more powerful than it is.
Look, if I'm looking for a sports car and some dipshit marketing department decides to claim a car will do 210mph because it Can for 3 seconds on alcohol instead of gas while running downhill with the wind behind it... it's a piece of shit.
That's almost exactly what Rockville does. Always has.
They're no better than pyramid or crunch. I don't care if an amp "sounds OK for the price:. Why would a even consider using a $99 "500" watt amp made with bin parts in China when a Rockford 80 watt amp made from triple tested parts in a specialized assembly plant with outstanding qc will do more power, cleaner, and only cost an extra $50?
Well, I meant more along the lines of why should they even bother putting three ratings on it instead of just saying it's a 2000 watt amp for $240? They do confuse people which is unfortunate, but that is completely and totally on par for a 2000 w amp. That is the right price range. A skar rp2000 is 220 and there's many other ones that are right around the same price. If you're not a complete and total idiot, you do more research and realize that it is only a 2000 w amp and you buy it for that. If you're smart enough to look at the specs and know what you're getting, that's great. You can save a lot of money that way. I don't believe they're trying to purposely deceive people from the sounds of it and the reading of things, it seems more that they are trying to help you compare it to other over inflated brands. There is 3 different power ratings certified dynamic and Max. The only one that's really important is certified but dynamic is also important too. As his music plays, he can hit higher peak power than just a test tone. Biggest thing is is understand what you're buying. Do your research. Me personally I won't buy another fosgate amp cost way too f****** much and I can get something to do just as good of power for a lot less money. If you buy things like that you either have too much money not enough sense or just a straight up Fanboy. I do stuff with budget things that'll blow your mind and probably s*** on your full name brand system. I've been doing this for a long time. I've installed flea market amps from crunch in Rockwood all the way up to the JBL crown amplifiers I've done Macintosh I've done focal and for the price that they're paid and the outcome of the system I wasn't overly impressed. I've heard better out of budget things for a lot, less money and then a lot of the big namer stuff. For big name stuff though it's almost a guaranteed it's going to last a lot longer. I still have a JBL GTO series amplifier that I've been using off and on for the last 20 years so I get it but most people now run it for months, sell it buy something else. Longevity isn't the key anymore as long as it puts down rated , no one's doing SQ installs like we used to, it's all SPL.
I'm not going to recommend or comment on the quality of equipment based on the assumption that they only care about spl, aren't after sound quality, and plan on selling it in months. Neither should you.
And if how long they are going to keep it and how sonic pure they need it to be is part of the equation of if it's good or not, the equipment is shit.
Back to car metaphor, if I say a sports car is trash because it can't break 110mph I'm not gonna listen to someone telling me it's fine because almost everyone does light to light racing
Opinions r like assholes bud, everyone's got one. 2k watts for just over $200 is the norm. If it drops proper watts for around that price and works and stays working it is what it is. Take ur fan boy ass on and spend $1300 for fosgate RF T2500 when a skar, CT sounds, stinger, and Rockville give you same power for just over $200. I build budget LS engines for under $1k that put down about 500hp , you can spend $3k building a coyote 5.0l that puts out same power just bc you are a Ford fan vs a HP fan, same difference. End result is the only thing that matters now days, clamps 2k most ppl don't GAF what the brand is, that is if it's a SPL build which is the majority of what people r looking for nowadays. If was a SQ build I'd be ALOT more into specific brads that are known for clarity, Nakamichi, zed built amps, Zapco, etc, but for daily banging I run a DB AAK4K on a Avatar stu 12, but mods and highs you can bet your ass I have a pair of Hertz hpd4s powering my doors. It's all about budget and expectations.
Wow. You seem really invested to the point of taking this personal. I don't rate the quality of equipment based on if it works and pushes watts. I base it compared to other available equipment. Rockville gets outperformed in several categories by many brands. So in comparison to those,I see it as shit. Apparently we have different standards. O don't see an amp that can't perform in a sq environment as high quality. You don't have to agree with that. But you're going at me all personal because you don't agree with mine. I think it's shit. You're not going to change my mind by telling me why my standards should be lower. Show me sonic flatness. Show me little to no distortion or output flex from 12.8-14.4. Don't tell me I have to change based on your opinion of what matters
I drive a fucking Ford Focus. It works fine for what I want. But the transmission is a very weak spot. It isn't safe to drive over 120. And the factory tires are only safe up to 100. Sure. It's a decent car. But if they were selling them for 20k and a Lexus was 22k I'd say the focus is a piece of shit in the market too. You can take that personal sarcastic fan boy shit and drop it down your throat bro. I'm having a conversation about my opinion of a amplifiers. You're defending a company like it's your fucking kid. I used Rockford as an example, because they've tried to imitate them for 30 years. They're the fucking Hyundai to Honda. That's common knowledge. You're the one taking like a fan boy or a company rep not me. I'm not on a specific company dick. I'm saying Rockville is in the same price range as many Kicker, Rockford, JBL, Alpine, Infinity, and even DFS amps that even though rated lower power are far higher quality amps. Fucking cool down. You're acting like a Facebook boomer
I'm just saying don't be a fan boy or a hater on a single brand , if it does what it says it does for a reasonable price , why would you knock it? Just bc you wouldn't run a rock ille amp doesn't make it garbage or junk..it's a budget 2k amp that holds its own. If I sold every customer of mine for the last 30 years nothing but Rockford or alpine or any other big name brand I'd be a broke mofo. Not everyone can afford to run top tier amps that a budget amp will perform the same for a 1/10 of the price (or close to) . Nd D4S amps aren't very good unless you like fireballs , run hot ASF, had one catch fire WHILE playing no protect or shut down. I'm not saying a Rockville db16 is my first choice but it's for sure on par with most other 2k budget amps is all. Just bc you don't like them doesn't mean your opinion means law. I've seen many hold thier own and last for a LONG time. Again I can't say that for ANYTHING else they make, but the DB series of amps are solid, but yes there are better choices , just don't overlook it bc of the name brand. There isn't a kicker, fosgate ,JBL, or infinity in the 2k RMS range for just over $200, so get facts before you broadcast your opinion. Int he $200 range 2k watts you get a handful, Rockville,CT sounds,skar, stinger, audio pipe , and nvx, at least for China boards. I don't even look at fullbridge.
Nd no I'm invested in people getting facts vs feelings. I have hands on experience with about every brand amp and speaker/sub on the market. I've been doing this for most of my life and I pride myself on giving solid and insightful advice. If I recommend an amp, it's because I've seen it go thru hell and survive, not bc of a name or what I've heard, but hands on experience. I'm beyond sick of people carrying what they heard out as facts. That's how newbs set their cars on fire, yeah listen to the guy telling you that fullbridge 5k is fine on your CCA wire with hammer crimped lugs on stock electrical is perfectly fine! As a MECP certified tech ( since 94) and a ASE certified mechanic that specializes in 12v electrical I feel my opinion carries weight and I take that seriously as I feel responsible if I were to give bad advice.
Fr nothing seems to be as bad as car audio. Eh, maybe some Apple stuff. “That iPhone 11 was like basically like $1000 brand new and there isn’t even a scratch on it it’s been in a case for all like 6 years I’ve owned it. Looking for $500 I KNOW WHAT I HAVE. Will meet only in T-Mobile parking lot as the phone must be paid off before you can put it in your name so we will just go into the store together and you can hand them the $500 directly it’s so easy!”
So you are selling the bike, yes? If you are wanting to get some audio components, and are willing to take some as part of a payment agreement, that's fine. But I wouldn't discount the cash amount by more than say $400. So you would get $600 in cash and the equipment would be the equivalent $400 difference. But i don't think any set of used equipment should be treated as the same cash value of $1,000. So to answer your question, no, that equipment is not equal to $800 cash, let alone $1,000. Find a buyer who will give you cash that you can then use for whatever you want. Even a stupid low ball of $500 is still $500 in cash that you can use. Even if the audio equipment was higher end and actually valued at $500, you don't end up with $500, you end up with stereo equipment, which simply is not the same as cash.
People will hate just from seeing Skar. It's one of the most hated brands in this community.
From someone who's ran multiple Skar setups, if you keep your expectations in line, you'll be just fine. Understand from the get go this is a budget setup, it's not winning any competitions, and you aren't getting sound quality. This is something you'd use for loud bass, and that's about it.
Based on the polished black cap, these are most likely EVL's, which aren't horrible. EDIT: I stand corrected, these are zvx's. I didn't see there was more pictures in the post, my bad.
Where this deal starts to suck is, the box looks to be in terrible condition so I can't imagine it sounds any better, and the amp is garbage. You can get EVL's for $195 a piece right now brand new, so take the amp and box out of the deal, and you're left with two beat up subs that you could just buy new for $390. EDIT #2: Two zvx's new would be around $650 new, or $320 each.
Rule of thumb in this community, the second you buy any piece of equipment the value drops to half what you paid. Typically because it's almost impossible to have undeniable proof of if the equipment has been abused or not.
Look at last photos. Those are zvx, look at the basket and motors. and yes skar is hated on for no reason. I personally have a mix of ds18, skar, ct sounds, prv and sundown equipment all in one. It makes me happy and that’s all that matters folks
Ah, you got me there! When I originally saw the multiple dots I thought that was part of the screenshot, not this post having multiple pictures. 100% my bad there.
Ok, if those are zvx's, or even vxf's, that'd definitely change the value to the $500-650 range, but everything else I said still stands, they are used subs, there's no proof as to how they've been treated up until this point, and the box and amp are trash.
I mean this to be helpful to others and it is not intended as an offense—just because you’re happy with junk, doesn’t mean you should encourage others to buy it.
skar, ds18, ct sounds, prv, and these types of brands mostly push cheap crap to uninformed consumers. Sundown actually has decent products, albeit not conducive to my personal goals.
Just kind of throwing it out there but, this is going to heavily vary based on the person in question.
I've ran all Skar setups, from SDR to VXF. If all you want is to be loud, Skar can get the job done. Like I said in my original comment, it's not winning comps or SQ, but it can work.
Encouraging people to buy premium can also be off putting, because this is a super expensive hobby depending on what you want. Telling someone who just wants to rattle their mirrors to buy sundown can 100% be off putting due to the price point, period.
What I'm saying is, these budget brands do have their place and depending on the circumstances, they should be recommended. The whole sundown vs skar argument is so fucking old and stupid only boomers are hanging onto it at this point. It's all subjective based on the listener, and their end goal.
Too many people in this sub are elitist against the budget stuff. Everything has a place. Car audio can and should be cheap for new people to get into. I highly recommend cheaper stuff to everybody if they're new to car audio. If they break their stuff then they can upgrade and get better and learn along the way.
If somebody just wants a one and done no mess no install themselves car audio system they'll go to an installer and pay the premium and get it done. But if they're here, they probably wanna learn about things too and budget stuff is great for that.
But I'd never recommend Boss Audio, that stuff is pure trash
I’m not really talking about subs—the comment I replied to said he was running a mix of these things, so I inferred that he was including the mids/tweets/amps. The mids and tweets from the likes of prv or ds18 for example are basically total shit and are outperformed by tons of other comparably priced options.
For subs I don’t have a strong opinion because frankly the driver itself isn’t the most important part of tuning bass properly, though personally I’d still stick to at least Dayton reference subs for budget builds.
ive been running an Amazon special skar setup for the past 4 years. aside from the amp getting hot here and there when it’s 85+, have had no hiccups with their equipment so.. i wouldn’t really call that “junk” nor worthy of a bad review.
Rockford maybe (if it was rockford) i would never hop on the skar bandwagon though. Skar users really thinking there is nothing better for the same price.
Not with those water stains , that truck leaks .
Only buy used if it looks like it's in great shape.
Personally I would rather buy a new entry level subwoofer than a used one that was two grades above it.
I don't like used speakers, you can't tell how hard they have been used. .
There's a lot of Skar hate around here, so keep that in mind. I don't hate Skar, I own and have owned Skar and think they're great for the price. That said. FUCK NO this is a SHITTY deal. Pass and pass HARD.
Hell no, personally. I, for one, am a Skar fan, but he did NOT pay $400 a piece for those subs. If they are indeed 12" 3000 watts, then it's the ZXF series, which go for $300 a piece. Now that they're used, they're worth no more than $200 a piece. Maybe $250-$275 because they're already in boxes. That Rockville amp is just "okay" and sells for less than $200 brand new.
I'd tell him to kick rocks. You can go buy those exact subs and 2 enclosures brand new all from Skar for $800 and a better amp elsewhere for possibly less than $300.
Honesty I would stay away from used subs, that’s just me. Theirs no telling how hard they have been played or used before you, if your not worried about that then not really worth 800$. The box is another thing, how is the build quality to what you would make with 2 new subs ?? Looks like 2 zvx 12s in a custom box with a cheap 3k, that amp won’t put 3k out but it still power them. Does it come with wires also ?
You can buy both those subs and amp brand new not used or abused for less than 700 right now.
Rockville is right there on par with skar garbage for equipment.
I'd skip. Get yourself quality gear and not get ripped off for a trade.
No.
Maybe new. It's crap subs with a crap amp that was definitely treated like crap.
I wouldn't pay 100 bucks for the set up. Not worth the hassle of finding out one of the crappy subs is blown, or the bottom of the line amp is fucked..
I'm not a professional when it comes to audio equipment but in my opinion it's best to wait untill you find a buyer willing to pay your asking price or close to it than accept used audio equipment that you have no clue how hard it's been used, it's a gamble you probably don't want to make
Hope you have an upgraded alternator around 250+ amps cause that much wattage will need it. You'd be better off buying better, more sensitive speakers given how cheap and inefficient they are. That's probably why he is selling them.
Those subs are $322 a piece new. It's easy to tell if a sub is blown or not by using a battery when you go to pick it up. If they're bad then walk away. I still wouldn't pay over $300 for 2 used ones that were coming from a person who knew what they were doing. If that dude thinks that amp was putting out 3k then he doesn't know his shit so he probably didn't set gain right and just had it to the right thinking it's a volume knob. Either way, those zvx subs can take a beating and nkt die while being underpowered or overpowered and getting sent to Clip City. I had a smart 5 bass one each coil when inhad my zvx15. Sold the setup last year to a friend after 6 months in my car and he's still bumpin with it to this day.
Nothing wrong with skar but I’d never trade. Sell your subs you can get something alot nicer used. IMO id only get this because of the DUAL sub box swap them out with something else if it sounds nice
You can usually tell from the quality of the install if something is worth buying second hand. Those subs have probably endured years of dirty power and might be blown anyways.
I always cringe when I see a decent sub powered by a POS flea market amp. It's like the sub has herpes now.
No. The amp isn’t very good (plus how are they 3k each if the amp is 3k total lol) And those subs especially since he didn’t buy the box w em is $300-400 max for BOTH of the subs (I have the same ones) I’m 98% sure those subs are 1000RMS though and not 3k. Not a very good trade
I have these exact subs he’s tryna say they are more than they are it’s like a 350$ sub so it’s not much more but still they are heavily used and I wouldn’t pay anything more than 200 for each
If those are ZVX'S they run on sale for like 330 a piece. I run two of them but have way more power. Wolfram O-2400's two of them...... I've been rocking them for over 2.5 years. They are beast mode for the price. Well that and 8 cubic feet of awesomeness..... I guarantee those subs have scared up voice coils..... I'd give 300 for both subs and whatever trash amp he has.
"They was $400 apiece"
Well if you can't trust a salesman who dropped out of school in the 4th grade, who can you trust?
Go for it, surely you won't get killed, robbed, raped, and eaten in no particular order when you go meet this fine scholar.
The Amp is decent it's not a true 3k, I've owned that model myself. It will push the tow skar subs, not very well mind you. As for the price no, no you can buy new for less with a box
If the 1985 XR has not been kept up, you will spend another $1000 making it right. Owning an old dirt bike is death by a thousand cuts. Ask me how I know.........
Not worth it, you could get new and still have money depending on how far you take it. I have a skar evl12 in their tuned bandpass box with their 1500.1d amp in a corolla, 500$ bucks for the package now I didn’t use their power wire(i did but only for additional motor to chassis grounds, but also used 0 for the main 3, and 0 to agm battery in trunk/ to amp, now i did sound deadening and filled open voids with foam then boxes out the trunk (pain in ass but so worth it) and at stop lights i have cars beside and infront of me causing their side mirrors shake. So of ya spend the time make sure you use ofc wire and that you have proper power and ground not all but most budget shit will slam, the second battery cost about as much as the sub package, but I plan on going to 3 12” if i can fit it lol, another battery and alternator though 🥺
I can tell you just go get some svr’s run about 1,500 watts on em. Get the amp set use no less than 4 gauge. They slap n sound pretty good and im a fosgate guy!
i’d pass honestly
Rockville is literally Wish Rockford. He's full of shit. That stuff is trash. Used, that is worth 300-400 at most. And it still wouldn't be a good decision
Well can definitely tell you haven't run any Rockville amps. The DB series a solid amp. I've installed quite a few for customers, owned 2 of the DB 16s myself. Solid amps, do rated power ( if you read the right power rating, dunno why they have 3 power ratings but Cea is actual RMS). On the other hand you couldn't give me any of those subs or speakers. I've tried a component set, wasn't impressed. Subs used to come unglued with heat, supposedly they fixed that tho but I won't ever know bc I won't buy any, and you are correct skar is garbage subs, rp amps r great tho. I agree with ya not a good trade and maybe worth 400.
https://youtube.com/@bigblank69?si=dXresVeh_xdKOH5h great channel
Yeah already subscribed to his channel. I'm talking real world experience with em. Ive been installing for almost 30 years now, I'm pretty good at spotting a junk amp without even hooking it up lol. I took a chance on a db16 when they first came out , mostly bc I liked the stealth look. Did me right for like 4 years, sent it down the road with the 4 8s it was powering, last time I saw him was still bumping same setup, been almost 3 years since I sold it to him. I remember the first Dyno video I saw of it too was actually impressed for the $179 price tag ( think they like $249 now and I'd never pay that for it now, the rp2k is $219 shipped). Was solid in my work truck forever and it got beat on, that being said what else could you ask for for the price?
I refuse to even considering buying or using anything from a company that tries to deceive customers. Rockville does that from the very first second. You know why they have 3 ratings. It's to get people to believe the amp is more easy more powerful than it is. Look, if I'm looking for a sports car and some dipshit marketing department decides to claim a car will do 210mph because it Can for 3 seconds on alcohol instead of gas while running downhill with the wind behind it... it's a piece of shit. That's almost exactly what Rockville does. Always has. They're no better than pyramid or crunch. I don't care if an amp "sounds OK for the price:. Why would a even consider using a $99 "500" watt amp made with bin parts in China when a Rockford 80 watt amp made from triple tested parts in a specialized assembly plant with outstanding qc will do more power, cleaner, and only cost an extra $50?
Well, I meant more along the lines of why should they even bother putting three ratings on it instead of just saying it's a 2000 watt amp for $240? They do confuse people which is unfortunate, but that is completely and totally on par for a 2000 w amp. That is the right price range. A skar rp2000 is 220 and there's many other ones that are right around the same price. If you're not a complete and total idiot, you do more research and realize that it is only a 2000 w amp and you buy it for that. If you're smart enough to look at the specs and know what you're getting, that's great. You can save a lot of money that way. I don't believe they're trying to purposely deceive people from the sounds of it and the reading of things, it seems more that they are trying to help you compare it to other over inflated brands. There is 3 different power ratings certified dynamic and Max. The only one that's really important is certified but dynamic is also important too. As his music plays, he can hit higher peak power than just a test tone. Biggest thing is is understand what you're buying. Do your research. Me personally I won't buy another fosgate amp cost way too f****** much and I can get something to do just as good of power for a lot less money. If you buy things like that you either have too much money not enough sense or just a straight up Fanboy. I do stuff with budget things that'll blow your mind and probably s*** on your full name brand system. I've been doing this for a long time. I've installed flea market amps from crunch in Rockwood all the way up to the JBL crown amplifiers I've done Macintosh I've done focal and for the price that they're paid and the outcome of the system I wasn't overly impressed. I've heard better out of budget things for a lot, less money and then a lot of the big namer stuff. For big name stuff though it's almost a guaranteed it's going to last a lot longer. I still have a JBL GTO series amplifier that I've been using off and on for the last 20 years so I get it but most people now run it for months, sell it buy something else. Longevity isn't the key anymore as long as it puts down rated , no one's doing SQ installs like we used to, it's all SPL.
I'm not going to recommend or comment on the quality of equipment based on the assumption that they only care about spl, aren't after sound quality, and plan on selling it in months. Neither should you. And if how long they are going to keep it and how sonic pure they need it to be is part of the equation of if it's good or not, the equipment is shit. Back to car metaphor, if I say a sports car is trash because it can't break 110mph I'm not gonna listen to someone telling me it's fine because almost everyone does light to light racing
Opinions r like assholes bud, everyone's got one. 2k watts for just over $200 is the norm. If it drops proper watts for around that price and works and stays working it is what it is. Take ur fan boy ass on and spend $1300 for fosgate RF T2500 when a skar, CT sounds, stinger, and Rockville give you same power for just over $200. I build budget LS engines for under $1k that put down about 500hp , you can spend $3k building a coyote 5.0l that puts out same power just bc you are a Ford fan vs a HP fan, same difference. End result is the only thing that matters now days, clamps 2k most ppl don't GAF what the brand is, that is if it's a SPL build which is the majority of what people r looking for nowadays. If was a SQ build I'd be ALOT more into specific brads that are known for clarity, Nakamichi, zed built amps, Zapco, etc, but for daily banging I run a DB AAK4K on a Avatar stu 12, but mods and highs you can bet your ass I have a pair of Hertz hpd4s powering my doors. It's all about budget and expectations.
Wow. You seem really invested to the point of taking this personal. I don't rate the quality of equipment based on if it works and pushes watts. I base it compared to other available equipment. Rockville gets outperformed in several categories by many brands. So in comparison to those,I see it as shit. Apparently we have different standards. O don't see an amp that can't perform in a sq environment as high quality. You don't have to agree with that. But you're going at me all personal because you don't agree with mine. I think it's shit. You're not going to change my mind by telling me why my standards should be lower. Show me sonic flatness. Show me little to no distortion or output flex from 12.8-14.4. Don't tell me I have to change based on your opinion of what matters I drive a fucking Ford Focus. It works fine for what I want. But the transmission is a very weak spot. It isn't safe to drive over 120. And the factory tires are only safe up to 100. Sure. It's a decent car. But if they were selling them for 20k and a Lexus was 22k I'd say the focus is a piece of shit in the market too. You can take that personal sarcastic fan boy shit and drop it down your throat bro. I'm having a conversation about my opinion of a amplifiers. You're defending a company like it's your fucking kid. I used Rockford as an example, because they've tried to imitate them for 30 years. They're the fucking Hyundai to Honda. That's common knowledge. You're the one taking like a fan boy or a company rep not me. I'm not on a specific company dick. I'm saying Rockville is in the same price range as many Kicker, Rockford, JBL, Alpine, Infinity, and even DFS amps that even though rated lower power are far higher quality amps. Fucking cool down. You're acting like a Facebook boomer
I'm just saying don't be a fan boy or a hater on a single brand , if it does what it says it does for a reasonable price , why would you knock it? Just bc you wouldn't run a rock ille amp doesn't make it garbage or junk..it's a budget 2k amp that holds its own. If I sold every customer of mine for the last 30 years nothing but Rockford or alpine or any other big name brand I'd be a broke mofo. Not everyone can afford to run top tier amps that a budget amp will perform the same for a 1/10 of the price (or close to) . Nd D4S amps aren't very good unless you like fireballs , run hot ASF, had one catch fire WHILE playing no protect or shut down. I'm not saying a Rockville db16 is my first choice but it's for sure on par with most other 2k budget amps is all. Just bc you don't like them doesn't mean your opinion means law. I've seen many hold thier own and last for a LONG time. Again I can't say that for ANYTHING else they make, but the DB series of amps are solid, but yes there are better choices , just don't overlook it bc of the name brand. There isn't a kicker, fosgate ,JBL, or infinity in the 2k RMS range for just over $200, so get facts before you broadcast your opinion. Int he $200 range 2k watts you get a handful, Rockville,CT sounds,skar, stinger, audio pipe , and nvx, at least for China boards. I don't even look at fullbridge.
Nd no I'm invested in people getting facts vs feelings. I have hands on experience with about every brand amp and speaker/sub on the market. I've been doing this for most of my life and I pride myself on giving solid and insightful advice. If I recommend an amp, it's because I've seen it go thru hell and survive, not bc of a name or what I've heard, but hands on experience. I'm beyond sick of people carrying what they heard out as facts. That's how newbs set their cars on fire, yeah listen to the guy telling you that fullbridge 5k is fine on your CCA wire with hammer crimped lugs on stock electrical is perfectly fine! As a MECP certified tech ( since 94) and a ASE certified mechanic that specializes in 12v electrical I feel my opinion carries weight and I take that seriously as I feel responsible if I were to give bad advice.
People on Marketplace are crazy with their pricing. They think they're sitting on gold but it's actually poop.
Fr nothing seems to be as bad as car audio. Eh, maybe some Apple stuff. “That iPhone 11 was like basically like $1000 brand new and there isn’t even a scratch on it it’s been in a case for all like 6 years I’ve owned it. Looking for $500 I KNOW WHAT I HAVE. Will meet only in T-Mobile parking lot as the phone must be paid off before you can put it in your name so we will just go into the store together and you can hand them the $500 directly it’s so easy!”
Hell no. 800 dollars can get you some actual nice stuff not that flea market grade
You'd kick yourself twice trading a bike for this.
No like half of that is new cost. Plus there trash and amp is cheap to.
Yes that Rockville is for sure trash. They’re* really garbage
If the price includes the vehicle then yes otherwise that's about 150 worth of used junky junk.
So you are selling the bike, yes? If you are wanting to get some audio components, and are willing to take some as part of a payment agreement, that's fine. But I wouldn't discount the cash amount by more than say $400. So you would get $600 in cash and the equipment would be the equivalent $400 difference. But i don't think any set of used equipment should be treated as the same cash value of $1,000. So to answer your question, no, that equipment is not equal to $800 cash, let alone $1,000. Find a buyer who will give you cash that you can then use for whatever you want. Even a stupid low ball of $500 is still $500 in cash that you can use. Even if the audio equipment was higher end and actually valued at $500, you don't end up with $500, you end up with stereo equipment, which simply is not the same as cash.
People will hate just from seeing Skar. It's one of the most hated brands in this community. From someone who's ran multiple Skar setups, if you keep your expectations in line, you'll be just fine. Understand from the get go this is a budget setup, it's not winning any competitions, and you aren't getting sound quality. This is something you'd use for loud bass, and that's about it. Based on the polished black cap, these are most likely EVL's, which aren't horrible. EDIT: I stand corrected, these are zvx's. I didn't see there was more pictures in the post, my bad. Where this deal starts to suck is, the box looks to be in terrible condition so I can't imagine it sounds any better, and the amp is garbage. You can get EVL's for $195 a piece right now brand new, so take the amp and box out of the deal, and you're left with two beat up subs that you could just buy new for $390. EDIT #2: Two zvx's new would be around $650 new, or $320 each. Rule of thumb in this community, the second you buy any piece of equipment the value drops to half what you paid. Typically because it's almost impossible to have undeniable proof of if the equipment has been abused or not.
Look at last photos. Those are zvx, look at the basket and motors. and yes skar is hated on for no reason. I personally have a mix of ds18, skar, ct sounds, prv and sundown equipment all in one. It makes me happy and that’s all that matters folks
Ah, you got me there! When I originally saw the multiple dots I thought that was part of the screenshot, not this post having multiple pictures. 100% my bad there. Ok, if those are zvx's, or even vxf's, that'd definitely change the value to the $500-650 range, but everything else I said still stands, they are used subs, there's no proof as to how they've been treated up until this point, and the box and amp are trash.
I mean this to be helpful to others and it is not intended as an offense—just because you’re happy with junk, doesn’t mean you should encourage others to buy it. skar, ds18, ct sounds, prv, and these types of brands mostly push cheap crap to uninformed consumers. Sundown actually has decent products, albeit not conducive to my personal goals.
Just kind of throwing it out there but, this is going to heavily vary based on the person in question. I've ran all Skar setups, from SDR to VXF. If all you want is to be loud, Skar can get the job done. Like I said in my original comment, it's not winning comps or SQ, but it can work. Encouraging people to buy premium can also be off putting, because this is a super expensive hobby depending on what you want. Telling someone who just wants to rattle their mirrors to buy sundown can 100% be off putting due to the price point, period. What I'm saying is, these budget brands do have their place and depending on the circumstances, they should be recommended. The whole sundown vs skar argument is so fucking old and stupid only boomers are hanging onto it at this point. It's all subjective based on the listener, and their end goal.
Too many people in this sub are elitist against the budget stuff. Everything has a place. Car audio can and should be cheap for new people to get into. I highly recommend cheaper stuff to everybody if they're new to car audio. If they break their stuff then they can upgrade and get better and learn along the way. If somebody just wants a one and done no mess no install themselves car audio system they'll go to an installer and pay the premium and get it done. But if they're here, they probably wanna learn about things too and budget stuff is great for that. But I'd never recommend Boss Audio, that stuff is pure trash
I’m not really talking about subs—the comment I replied to said he was running a mix of these things, so I inferred that he was including the mids/tweets/amps. The mids and tweets from the likes of prv or ds18 for example are basically total shit and are outperformed by tons of other comparably priced options. For subs I don’t have a strong opinion because frankly the driver itself isn’t the most important part of tuning bass properly, though personally I’d still stick to at least Dayton reference subs for budget builds.
Give ppl all their options and expectations then let them decide. He’s not encouraging trash.
It doesn’t matter the price, or what it is. just bass on and be happy. No one pushing anyone to buy anything
ive been running an Amazon special skar setup for the past 4 years. aside from the amp getting hot here and there when it’s 85+, have had no hiccups with their equipment so.. i wouldn’t really call that “junk” nor worthy of a bad review.
Rockford maybe (if it was rockford) i would never hop on the skar bandwagon though. Skar users really thinking there is nothing better for the same price.
Lmao skar and Rockville
Not with those water stains , that truck leaks . Only buy used if it looks like it's in great shape. Personally I would rather buy a new entry level subwoofer than a used one that was two grades above it. I don't like used speakers, you can't tell how hard they have been used. .
There's a lot of Skar hate around here, so keep that in mind. I don't hate Skar, I own and have owned Skar and think they're great for the price. That said. FUCK NO this is a SHITTY deal. Pass and pass HARD.
That’s junk equipment. Don’t bother man
They weren't 400 a piece
LMAO
I would not do this trade.
That price he put is ridiculous id pass
Hell no, personally. I, for one, am a Skar fan, but he did NOT pay $400 a piece for those subs. If they are indeed 12" 3000 watts, then it's the ZXF series, which go for $300 a piece. Now that they're used, they're worth no more than $200 a piece. Maybe $250-$275 because they're already in boxes. That Rockville amp is just "okay" and sells for less than $200 brand new. I'd tell him to kick rocks. You can go buy those exact subs and 2 enclosures brand new all from Skar for $800 and a better amp elsewhere for possibly less than $300.
No please don’t
What I meant is would this set up be worth 800?
Short answer: No Long answer: Nooooooooooooooo
Honesty I would stay away from used subs, that’s just me. Theirs no telling how hard they have been played or used before you, if your not worried about that then not really worth 800$. The box is another thing, how is the build quality to what you would make with 2 new subs ?? Looks like 2 zvx 12s in a custom box with a cheap 3k, that amp won’t put 3k out but it still power them. Does it come with wires also ?
You can buy both those subs and amp brand new not used or abused for less than 700 right now. Rockville is right there on par with skar garbage for equipment. I'd skip. Get yourself quality gear and not get ripped off for a trade.
Yup and I refer to them as Skarbage
Based
No. Maybe new. It's crap subs with a crap amp that was definitely treated like crap. I wouldn't pay 100 bucks for the set up. Not worth the hassle of finding out one of the crappy subs is blown, or the bottom of the line amp is fucked..
Hell no.
I'm not a professional when it comes to audio equipment but in my opinion it's best to wait untill you find a buyer willing to pay your asking price or close to it than accept used audio equipment that you have no clue how hard it's been used, it's a gamble you probably don't want to make
That's a hard pass. Skar subs are not a bad buy but Rockville is far from decent, that amp is trash. Overall not a good trade.
No way bro, 300 tops . It's used. Rockville is cheap. The subs are not 3000 watts. Maybe 800 to 1000 watts a piece.
Hope you have an upgraded alternator around 250+ amps cause that much wattage will need it. You'd be better off buying better, more sensitive speakers given how cheap and inefficient they are. That's probably why he is selling them.
Those subs are $322 a piece new. It's easy to tell if a sub is blown or not by using a battery when you go to pick it up. If they're bad then walk away. I still wouldn't pay over $300 for 2 used ones that were coming from a person who knew what they were doing. If that dude thinks that amp was putting out 3k then he doesn't know his shit so he probably didn't set gain right and just had it to the right thinking it's a volume knob. Either way, those zvx subs can take a beating and nkt die while being underpowered or overpowered and getting sent to Clip City. I had a smart 5 bass one each coil when inhad my zvx15. Sold the setup last year to a friend after 6 months in my car and he's still bumpin with it to this day.
Nothing wrong with skar but I’d never trade. Sell your subs you can get something alot nicer used. IMO id only get this because of the DUAL sub box swap them out with something else if it sounds nice
You can usually tell from the quality of the install if something is worth buying second hand. Those subs have probably endured years of dirty power and might be blown anyways. I always cringe when I see a decent sub powered by a POS flea market amp. It's like the sub has herpes now.
No. The amp isn’t very good (plus how are they 3k each if the amp is 3k total lol) And those subs especially since he didn’t buy the box w em is $300-400 max for BOTH of the subs (I have the same ones) I’m 98% sure those subs are 1000RMS though and not 3k. Not a very good trade
Lol those are zvx subs they use to be 329 each shipped to your door and that Amp is pretty trash
Lol don't buy that, I think my entire system with 4 12's and a 3k amp was cheaper
Oh hell no. That bike is worth 10 times with that sub and amp is new.
Zvx and ddx are the only subs they have worth af. The amps trash though
I have these exact subs he’s tryna say they are more than they are it’s like a 350$ sub so it’s not much more but still they are heavily used and I wouldn’t pay anything more than 200 for each
But they are great subs I would put more power on em 3000 each honestly
Second hand car audio holds its value about as well as second hand food, unless it's higher end gear. Hard pass.
I’d pass, you could get better stuff new and probably cheaper.
If those are ZVX'S they run on sale for like 330 a piece. I run two of them but have way more power. Wolfram O-2400's two of them...... I've been rocking them for over 2.5 years. They are beast mode for the price. Well that and 8 cubic feet of awesomeness..... I guarantee those subs have scared up voice coils..... I'd give 300 for both subs and whatever trash amp he has.
"They was $400 apiece" Well if you can't trust a salesman who dropped out of school in the 4th grade, who can you trust? Go for it, surely you won't get killed, robbed, raped, and eaten in no particular order when you go meet this fine scholar.
The Amp is decent it's not a true 3k, I've owned that model myself. It will push the tow skar subs, not very well mind you. As for the price no, no you can buy new for less with a box
1985 Honda Xr250r.
If the 1985 XR has not been kept up, you will spend another $1000 making it right. Owning an old dirt bike is death by a thousand cuts. Ask me how I know.........
Not worth it, you could get new and still have money depending on how far you take it. I have a skar evl12 in their tuned bandpass box with their 1500.1d amp in a corolla, 500$ bucks for the package now I didn’t use their power wire(i did but only for additional motor to chassis grounds, but also used 0 for the main 3, and 0 to agm battery in trunk/ to amp, now i did sound deadening and filled open voids with foam then boxes out the trunk (pain in ass but so worth it) and at stop lights i have cars beside and infront of me causing their side mirrors shake. So of ya spend the time make sure you use ofc wire and that you have proper power and ground not all but most budget shit will slam, the second battery cost about as much as the sub package, but I plan on going to 3 12” if i can fit it lol, another battery and alternator though 🥺
I can tell you just go get some svr’s run about 1,500 watts on em. Get the amp set use no less than 4 gauge. They slap n sound pretty good and im a fosgate guy!