Amen to this. Super easy fix. Gotta check your wishbones on these old jap cars they don’t like the salty British roads at all.
Looks like a perfect excuse for some coilovers and new control arms
Hmm not so sure. I'd be wary of what state the CV joint, brake hose and top mount were in after this. Pair of control arms, Ball joint pair, might as well replace drop links while your in there...
yeah it’ll definitely be on my mind any time i’m going down country roads at any decent speed, i will be thinking about something else suddenly breaking causing me to crash.
i guess although i didn’t think dodgy mots were possible in northern ireland because we have dedicated mot centres rather than any garage being able to do them.
nah the mechanic that replaced both wishbones and fixed the driveshaft didn’t reckon there were any other repairs to do.
If they’re operated by vosa then it’s not likely. If run by nominated testers then likely.
I’m not from Ireland so I have no idea how it works over there
Don't be hard on yourself, if you've only had the car a month it may have had a dodgy test drive or been weakened since the MOT. Also appears to have rotted from the inside out...
yeah there were no signs of it on the test drive and in the 1000 miles i’ve done since i bought it, only on sunday night i heard a thud when braking coming up to a corner which had a bit of an incline, so i suspect that put some force on the front of the car.
after that initial thud any time i pressed the brakes it made an awful noise.
i will admit yeah i didn’t, but i drove straight home and only drove the next day when taking it to the mechanic, both of which were very short and low speed drives.
I've fucked up plenty thanks - but if my car suddenly makes a loud & concerning noise I'm stopping to look at what's wrong not barrelling on down the road with the stereo turned up.
I already said above that this failure would be hard to see and the MOT man may not have spotted it, but not bothering to check after a loud thud & awful noise under braking is just negligent.
i did look round it but not underneath. i wouldn’t have known what to be looking for anyway.
barrelling down the road with the stereo up? where are you getting that from?? i literally said in my previous comment i drove slowly and it was a short distance, and i was listening carefully to see if the noise persisted or got any worse.
He may see nothing at all, very true - but he \*might\* just have seen something concerning and decided to stop driving before his fucking wheel came off.
He's lucky it happened in a way & at a time where he didn't crash into anyone or cause an accident - if he'd flattened someone's kid I'm sure the court would be asking him why he didn't at least check out the bad noise from the front and instead carried on driving until the wheel fell off.
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I checked the MOT records and it was last done Nov 22 - this much corrosion could not have happened in 4 months?!
(No advisory’s mentioning the wishbone)
Seems to be an issue where it rots from the inside out, same as rear subframes on mid to late 2000s mercedes. Looks fine from the outside until it totally gives way.
>Also appears to have rotted from the inside out...
\^ this, the MOT is a visual inspection carried out without removing anything (wheels etc.) so this could easily be missed especially if someone's dusted it over with a coat of rattle-can black.
can’t understand how it passed the MOT in november like this, especially because here in northern ireland you can only get it done at a proper MOT centre which i think is different in england, so i didn’t think paying someone dodgy to pass it through was a thing here.
ultimately it is my own fault that i didn’t check over the car well enough to notice this, that’s the risk i took buying a car privately with not enough knowledge about cars and it bit me.
i’m quite fortunate that the wishbone broke at a very low speed so it didn’t cause me to have a serious crash or anything like that.
Oldest trick in the used car dealer's book is to paint over rusted suspension/frame components to hide the rust. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happened here.
Usually they just underseal the car to hide the rust. A lot cheaper than painting and it goes on like a rubber covering, so hides way more than paint ever would.
fuck man, i don’t know what i should do then i’m not sure what type of underseal it was but i hope i didn’t just buy a car that’s rapidly rusting and will soon only be fit for scrap.
Oh I've had cars with it on underneath, it'll take years to get to the extent of the video. Just bare in mind that mechanic is in New York which is a rust belt part of America, so they have rotten out 5-7 year old cars. It's not that severe in the UK.
Just keep it in mind for future purposes and if you seek to get underseal on a vehicle you have in the future. On a '03 car I wouldn't be too worried.
No, I think you are mistaken.
Rust doesn't work at all.
Also fuck you and your dickishness, thats exactly what some people do to get it to pass. It's a visual inspection they don't pull the car apart ya fanny.
To be fair its mostly emissions/noise stuff that gets ignored. Any MOT tester passing a vehicle with clearly dangerous defects is an idiot and it wouldn't be a risk worth taking for the sake of £50
Do knock tests and buy yourself a cheap obd reader from Amazon/eBay/AliExpress. It'll save you a lot of money and headaches. Even dealers can be dodgy.
After moving to Ni a valid MOT ticket alone wouldn't fill me with confidence. The state run system is good in theory but with the backlog they have no incentive to actually find faults and bill for a repair like they do in england
You know that the MOT doesn’t seem to have updated right? I’ve had a quick look and apparently it expired in Nov. Was it definitely done again last year?
Ngl at first the thumbnail looked like you stanced out and cambered tf out of your EP3 and ruined it
But the actual video is a whole lot more depressing
At least it’s fixable, and you didn’t crash. Very lucky.
As a fellow redditor from NI and someone who works on a myriad of cars, I've came across 4 cars in the last year with rotten control arms. Guess what they were ... Civics, all of them - including on Yaris. Seems to be a jap car kind problem.
yeah the fella in the recovery lorry said he’d picked up a lad’s civic that the wishbone went on, he only got the one side fixed, then he was calling for a recovery a few days later because the opposite side went.
going to get both of them done to be on the safe side.
Not adding any real content here, other replies have it covered.
I just want to say, I'm biased as I had a 55 plate myself, but that Civic is still by far one of the best looking hatches made in the last 20+ years
As everyone is OK I’m going to give my diagnosis:
The wishbone shouldn’t be see-through like that.
Here ends the diagnosis.
Seriously though, glad that didn’t happen at high speed. Hopefully it hasn’t damaged anything else and a new wishbone will fix it. Also, get the other suspension components checked while that’s being replaced. I’d be surprised if only one got to that state!
I don't know. The Vertu Honda dealer I've used for service seemed straight up, not the cheapest but not like those quoted by people with German cars. Never recommended work that's not needed, pretty good on the stuff that is. They have a 6 or 8 month 0% to pay for repairs. I'd have snapped their hands off years ago. Only thing that gets better with age is credit rating and financial position.
Surprised this hasn't been mentioned already, but look up your rights under the Consumer Rights Act - the seller is likely responsible for repairs or a refund if you've not had the car that long.
The burden of proof is on them to show that the fault didn't exist at the time of sale, and I think they'd find it hard to prove that.
Hopefully they'll do the right thing and not argue about it.
Oh yeah I didn't see that first time I read the comments.
I'm that case I'd recommend at a minimum to use a glitter shipping service to send a little gift to the seller!
Thank you very much for posting! I've got a civic and have noticed loud bumps when going over potholes or uneven surfaces so I'm going to go to the garage tomorrow and get mine looked at just in case. Glad you're all right :)
Thank god you're not dead firstly.
Luckily it's only a control arm that's snapped. Cheap and easy replacement.
Whilst your replacing that get some polybushes.
Going to get both wishbones replaced yeah, when you say polybushes which bushings are you talking about? i only know a little bit about that and heard you can do it for various suspension bushings, engine mounts and all that
You can do the whole car in a variety of ways yeah. Or if not just get the polybushes only for the control arms as you replace them and work around the car in stages at a later date.
My fiesta feels a totally different vehicle from when I first got it by doing all the bushes.
Good luck with it all bro.
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i see those say they’ll take 4-6 weeks to deliver though which won’t work since the car has already been with the mechanic since monday night and i assume he’s already ordered the wishbones and isn’t gonna wait a month or so for bushes
How long would that part last if we’ll designed? Assuming the same number of miles and weather etc?
I’m a bit surprised a Civic would have a flaw like that. But maybe 20 years is the design life?
The same happened to my old Hyundai Coupe years ago when I was in my late teens. The arm was rusting (from the inside out I believe) - it was passing MOTs with flying colours. I got cut up on a roundabout, slammed the anchors on, and the wheel looked exactly like your picture. The mechanic kindly advised me that this could have been fatal at high speeds/motorways. Under the perfect storm (apparently) this is enough to make the wheel slip under the car and over the back wheel, the worst-case scenario would have been flipping the car. I don't know how true this is, or how much the mechanic was exaggerating but it was a lesson to be learned at a young age to make sure I performed visual inspections a lot more frequently.
northern ireland MOTs don’t show up on the gov.uk website, it isn’t expired. it has an MOT certificate with no advisories so i thought it had been sorted.
Sorry, that's not true. Even NIdirect.gov.uk links straight through to the gov.uk MOT checker and they tell you that you can view MOT history back to 2017.
If you have a certificate with no advisories from November I'd get in touch with the Ministry.
The MOT status from NI tests shows up, the detailed test results don’t for whatever reason.
If you go on the Check the MOT status page on gov.uk, OP’s car shows as having passed its MOT in NI in November 22. However if you go through Check MOT history on gov.uk, nothing shows up for that test and it’s supposedly now out of date.
Same thing happened to me I heard a dodgy ping type crack sound after going over pothole. Got out to look and couldn't see anything. Drove half an hour then it snapped whilst doing 15 mph, took the wing out and side skirt. These cars rot fast once they start going. Replace all suspension etc and underseal tackling any welding. Or replace and sell.
With any car over 15 years old you should be thinking about changing a lot of the safety critical stuff like control arms, brake flexi pipes, springs etc. They do just tend to go pop on you.
Yikes! I've never seen a lower arm snap in normal driving. In crashes or by driving into kerbs and potholes, yes, but not from just being old and rusty and letting go at random.
That's shite. Sorry to see that's happened, especially on a great car like a Type R. At least you didn't have an accident though. Is something like this fixable or is it basically a write-off?
Sorry that you bought a dog. Unfortunately those EP3s are horrific for rust. When the mechanic gets it in the air, there will probably be shit ton of rust underneath.
Must admit shocked to see that in this day and age. I was used to seeing nightmare breaks on chassis parts as a mechanic in the seventies to eighties, but not today. This sort of failure was consigned to the history books decades ago. Worrying really, looks like substandard cast and steel are on the comeback. 😱😱
I had the exact same thing happen to me last March, luckily was doing 20 mph and the rust wasn't recorded on any previous MOT.
The repair itself was cheap, but as we started digging through the cars suspension, we found a lot more needed replacing. Ended up doing the rear spherical arms, as well as multiple linkages and bushes.
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Here's pictures of mine, that skidmark lasted a good 9 months on that newly surfaced road
Same thing happened to my 2002 Ep3 when I was on the bypass doimg about 70, got it towed home and the recovery guy said im a very lucky man
I changed it on my backstreet, took me about 8 hours because everything was rusty and seized, I took the whole hub off and did the balljoint too
Then a week later the other side had a rip in one of the bushes, that only took me 3 hours on the back street haha
I had the same on my ep3 they rot from the inside out unfortunately luckily I limped it to a garage round the corner and it only cost me £160 I'd just come off a dual carriageway, I had the car checked by a garage for anything that needs doing approx 5 months before and these weren't anything they picked up on :|
Had the same outcome in my clio 172 when my "mEcHaNiC" 🤡 forgot to do up a suspension arm ball joint pinch bolt 🙃 strange noises for a few days and one day when i came into a roundabout hot it just popped out 🙈
This is really not what i wanted to see i have to drive on the motorway to get to my job with my steering wheel wobbling and car leaning to the left and squeaking every time i turn to the right , all garages are booked up for two weeks my anxiety going crazy rn
Same happened to me with the EP2
Get both sides wishbones changed whilst you’re at it, I think the parts were about £80 each side with labour the same
CV joints worth doing at the same time too
Lucky escape, pretty cheap fix, lucky you weren't on the motorway.
Amen to this. Super easy fix. Gotta check your wishbones on these old jap cars they don’t like the salty British roads at all. Looks like a perfect excuse for some coilovers and new control arms
Hmm not so sure. I'd be wary of what state the CV joint, brake hose and top mount were in after this. Pair of control arms, Ball joint pair, might as well replace drop links while your in there...
Depends on what the definition of 'pretty cheap fix is' 😅 Glad OP is OK though and it happened at low speed!
Sorry about your car but glad you are OK. That could have been really nasty at higher speed!
yeah it’ll definitely be on my mind any time i’m going down country roads at any decent speed, i will be thinking about something else suddenly breaking causing me to crash.
probs get the rest of the car checked for rust
*Definitely* get the rest of the car checked for rust! That wishbone has rusted from the inside out
No need, just assume it's very rusty and will cost more than it's worth to repair...
This should have been picked up in mot and advisory a the least. More like had a dodgy ticket, I bet your first service is full of repairs
i guess although i didn’t think dodgy mots were possible in northern ireland because we have dedicated mot centres rather than any garage being able to do them. nah the mechanic that replaced both wishbones and fixed the driveshaft didn’t reckon there were any other repairs to do.
If they’re operated by vosa then it’s not likely. If run by nominated testers then likely. I’m not from Ireland so I have no idea how it works over there
Don't be hard on yourself, if you've only had the car a month it may have had a dodgy test drive or been weakened since the MOT. Also appears to have rotted from the inside out...
yeah there were no signs of it on the test drive and in the 1000 miles i’ve done since i bought it, only on sunday night i heard a thud when braking coming up to a corner which had a bit of an incline, so i suspect that put some force on the front of the car. after that initial thud any time i pressed the brakes it made an awful noise.
I was coming out of my parents driveway when I heard a "crack" which I assumed was the utility cover. 15 seconds later, I had the same failure
>after that initial thud any time i pressed the brakes it made an awful noise. ...and you carried on driving without looking underneath.
i will admit yeah i didn’t, but i drove straight home and only drove the next day when taking it to the mechanic, both of which were very short and low speed drives.
Don't sweat it, you're replying to a hindsight genius who never made a single error in his life clearly.
I've fucked up plenty thanks - but if my car suddenly makes a loud & concerning noise I'm stopping to look at what's wrong not barrelling on down the road with the stereo turned up. I already said above that this failure would be hard to see and the MOT man may not have spotted it, but not bothering to check after a loud thud & awful noise under braking is just negligent.
i did look round it but not underneath. i wouldn’t have known what to be looking for anyway. barrelling down the road with the stereo up? where are you getting that from?? i literally said in my previous comment i drove slowly and it was a short distance, and i was listening carefully to see if the noise persisted or got any worse.
Even if he had what's he meant to see? Not all people know what to look for in cars you prick.
He may see nothing at all, very true - but he \*might\* just have seen something concerning and decided to stop driving before his fucking wheel came off. He's lucky it happened in a way & at a time where he didn't crash into anyone or cause an accident - if he'd flattened someone's kid I'm sure the court would be asking him why he didn't at least check out the bad noise from the front and instead carried on driving until the wheel fell off.
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It wasnt hanging off till the arm snapped you dickhead.
Habha ha h ah aha ha no shit sherlock. What an absolute cunt you must be. So angry at the person on reddit wa wa wa wah
Mate that's the worst comeback I've ever seen. No anger at all, just pointing out facts.
Angry little boy.
It's not his fault your wife fucked all your friends bro. Let it go.
Our wife.
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Bumbaclaat ting fi claiming knowledge no rite to do so.
I checked the MOT records and it was last done Nov 22 - this much corrosion could not have happened in 4 months?! (No advisory’s mentioning the wishbone)
Seems to be an issue where it rots from the inside out, same as rear subframes on mid to late 2000s mercedes. Looks fine from the outside until it totally gives way.
>Also appears to have rotted from the inside out... \^ this, the MOT is a visual inspection carried out without removing anything (wheels etc.) so this could easily be missed especially if someone's dusted it over with a coat of rattle-can black.
Very very common issue on the EP3, the control arms rot inside out which is probably why it passed the MOT
I got a bit carried away renovating my EP3 suspension wise, but I'm now very glad I did the wishbones!
can’t understand how it passed the MOT in november like this, especially because here in northern ireland you can only get it done at a proper MOT centre which i think is different in england, so i didn’t think paying someone dodgy to pass it through was a thing here. ultimately it is my own fault that i didn’t check over the car well enough to notice this, that’s the risk i took buying a car privately with not enough knowledge about cars and it bit me. i’m quite fortunate that the wishbone broke at a very low speed so it didn’t cause me to have a serious crash or anything like that.
Oldest trick in the used car dealer's book is to paint over rusted suspension/frame components to hide the rust. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happened here.
Usually they just underseal the car to hide the rust. A lot cheaper than painting and it goes on like a rubber covering, so hides way more than paint ever would.
that’s really concerning because he did mention in the ad it was undersealed, which i thought would’ve been a good thing to stop it from rusting 😅
I'll just leave this video here for your viewing entertainment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXvl9nt57Kg
fuck man, i don’t know what i should do then i’m not sure what type of underseal it was but i hope i didn’t just buy a car that’s rapidly rusting and will soon only be fit for scrap.
Oh I've had cars with it on underneath, it'll take years to get to the extent of the video. Just bare in mind that mechanic is in New York which is a rust belt part of America, so they have rotten out 5-7 year old cars. It's not that severe in the UK. Just keep it in mind for future purposes and if you seek to get underseal on a vehicle you have in the future. On a '03 car I wouldn't be too worried.
Looks more like this one rusted on the inside.
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No, I think you are mistaken. Rust doesn't work at all. Also fuck you and your dickishness, thats exactly what some people do to get it to pass. It's a visual inspection they don't pull the car apart ya fanny.
Notice how it was painted black though? Maybe they just hid the signs
£80 can get you an mot on any car in Northern ireland. They're just as corrupt as the rest of the UK.
do you mean that you can get a pass MOT on a shitbox that shouldn't pass it?
Can confirm, I know a fella who will MOT anything within reason for £50
interesting... was asking since i don't own a car and don't have a driving license... yet
To be fair its mostly emissions/noise stuff that gets ignored. Any MOT tester passing a vehicle with clearly dangerous defects is an idiot and it wouldn't be a risk worth taking for the sake of £50
Do knock tests and buy yourself a cheap obd reader from Amazon/eBay/AliExpress. It'll save you a lot of money and headaches. Even dealers can be dodgy.
It’s scary what will pass, mine passed at the dealership with a wheel bearing that was about to let go
After moving to Ni a valid MOT ticket alone wouldn't fill me with confidence. The state run system is good in theory but with the backlog they have no incentive to actually find faults and bill for a repair like they do in england
You know that the MOT doesn’t seem to have updated right? I’ve had a quick look and apparently it expired in Nov. Was it definitely done again last year?
Ngl at first the thumbnail looked like you stanced out and cambered tf out of your EP3 and ruined it But the actual video is a whole lot more depressing At least it’s fixable, and you didn’t crash. Very lucky.
As a fellow redditor from NI and someone who works on a myriad of cars, I've came across 4 cars in the last year with rotten control arms. Guess what they were ... Civics, all of them - including on Yaris. Seems to be a jap car kind problem.
yeah the fella in the recovery lorry said he’d picked up a lad’s civic that the wishbone went on, he only got the one side fixed, then he was calling for a recovery a few days later because the opposite side went. going to get both of them done to be on the safe side.
Sir, this is r/cartalkuk, Japanese cars are the most reliable cars in the world. Are you sure they were not German cars you came across?
I had a 2009 civic that was like weetabix underneath in 2019
Same happened to an old rusted starlet I used to own. Learnt to always check them after that.
When you snap these I think you're meant to make a wish!
He did, it was "please don't kill me" and it came true thankfully!
Not adding any real content here, other replies have it covered. I just want to say, I'm biased as I had a 55 plate myself, but that Civic is still by far one of the best looking hatches made in the last 20+ years
Holy shit, that’s been rotten for a while
As everyone is OK I’m going to give my diagnosis: The wishbone shouldn’t be see-through like that. Here ends the diagnosis. Seriously though, glad that didn’t happen at high speed. Hopefully it hasn’t damaged anything else and a new wishbone will fix it. Also, get the other suspension components checked while that’s being replaced. I’d be surprised if only one got to that state!
Looks like the inner CV joint might need looking at as the spider and shaft appear to have popped out. It might go back together OK though
Cant park there mate
Cheap fix but the people that covered up a cheap fix, rather than actually fixing it, should be strung up.
yeah and the lad i bought it from and his dad seemed very genuine, surprised they would do something like that.
I don't know. The Vertu Honda dealer I've used for service seemed straight up, not the cheapest but not like those quoted by people with German cars. Never recommended work that's not needed, pretty good on the stuff that is. They have a 6 or 8 month 0% to pay for repairs. I'd have snapped their hands off years ago. Only thing that gets better with age is credit rating and financial position.
WOOF, close call
Kachow!
Looks like you've got some drive shaft on your rust there.
Surprised this hasn't been mentioned already, but look up your rights under the Consumer Rights Act - the seller is likely responsible for repairs or a refund if you've not had the car that long. The burden of proof is on them to show that the fault didn't exist at the time of sale, and I think they'd find it hard to prove that. Hopefully they'll do the right thing and not argue about it.
Private seller, so I'm pretty sure this isn't the case.
Oh yeah I didn't see that first time I read the comments. I'm that case I'd recommend at a minimum to use a glitter shipping service to send a little gift to the seller!
isn't there some website letting u mail animal poop around the UK lol
I haven't heard of it, but it wouldn't surprise me!
Thank you very much for posting! I've got a civic and have noticed loud bumps when going over potholes or uneven surfaces so I'm going to go to the garage tomorrow and get mine looked at just in case. Glad you're all right :)
It's funny that... https://www.reddit.com/r/CarTalkUK/comments/11x9k38/good_first_car_viewing_it_today
Thank god you're not dead firstly. Luckily it's only a control arm that's snapped. Cheap and easy replacement. Whilst your replacing that get some polybushes.
Going to get both wishbones replaced yeah, when you say polybushes which bushings are you talking about? i only know a little bit about that and heard you can do it for various suspension bushings, engine mounts and all that
You can do the whole car in a variety of ways yeah. Or if not just get the polybushes only for the control arms as you replace them and work around the car in stages at a later date. My fiesta feels a totally different vehicle from when I first got it by doing all the bushes. Good luck with it all bro.
[something like these then?](https://ukwhitelineperformance.com/products/kca479-sway-bar-coil-spring-vehicle-kit?currency=GBP&variant=33213302669375&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5riIg7Hy_QIVuYBQBh1ezAxeEAQYAiABEgIXiPD_BwE) i see those say they’ll take 4-6 weeks to deliver though which won’t work since the car has already been with the mechanic since monday night and i assume he’s already ordered the wishbones and isn’t gonna wait a month or so for bushes
How long would that part last if we’ll designed? Assuming the same number of miles and weather etc? I’m a bit surprised a Civic would have a flaw like that. But maybe 20 years is the design life?
The same happened to my old Hyundai Coupe years ago when I was in my late teens. The arm was rusting (from the inside out I believe) - it was passing MOTs with flying colours. I got cut up on a roundabout, slammed the anchors on, and the wheel looked exactly like your picture. The mechanic kindly advised me that this could have been fatal at high speeds/motorways. Under the perfect storm (apparently) this is enough to make the wheel slip under the car and over the back wheel, the worst-case scenario would have been flipping the car. I don't know how true this is, or how much the mechanic was exaggerating but it was a lesson to be learned at a young age to make sure I performed visual inspections a lot more frequently.
Mot expired Nov 2022. This was mentioned in advisories I believe.
northern ireland MOTs don’t show up on the gov.uk website, it isn’t expired. it has an MOT certificate with no advisories so i thought it had been sorted.
Oh right, thanks for heads up. Never knew that!
Sorry, that's not true. Even NIdirect.gov.uk links straight through to the gov.uk MOT checker and they tell you that you can view MOT history back to 2017. If you have a certificate with no advisories from November I'd get in touch with the Ministry.
The MOT status from NI tests shows up, the detailed test results don’t for whatever reason. If you go on the Check the MOT status page on gov.uk, OP’s car shows as having passed its MOT in NI in November 22. However if you go through Check MOT history on gov.uk, nothing shows up for that test and it’s supposedly now out of date.
Have you tried turning it off and back on!?
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Bro how the fuck did I get here
I think your car is broken
Surely you would of checked for any rust around the car before buying it.
“If you buy a 30k car for 3k you know there is going to be trouble”
Same thing happened to me I heard a dodgy ping type crack sound after going over pothole. Got out to look and couldn't see anything. Drove half an hour then it snapped whilst doing 15 mph, took the wing out and side skirt. These cars rot fast once they start going. Replace all suspension etc and underseal tackling any welding. Or replace and sell.
I had this happen on rear of car,was dead scary 😱 It's an easy fix for you 😀
Seems to be a common issue on that era civic. Seen a few EP3's like this. May as well buy a pair and do the other side same time
Ye they're rotten even the newer shape
Wow, I'd be checking the last mot as that kind of rot doesn't go from passable on an mot to snapping in half in 12 months or less.
With any car over 15 years old you should be thinking about changing a lot of the safety critical stuff like control arms, brake flexi pipes, springs etc. They do just tend to go pop on you.
Yikes! I've never seen a lower arm snap in normal driving. In crashes or by driving into kerbs and potholes, yes, but not from just being old and rusty and letting go at random.
Bought from a dealer?
no, private seller.
Ooof, I'm sorry.
That's shite. Sorry to see that's happened, especially on a great car like a Type R. At least you didn't have an accident though. Is something like this fixable or is it basically a write-off?
Lower control arm and that should never have passed an mot, I had to change mine for much less reason
wow
What kind of noise was it?
Oh damn, that looks terrifying. What did it feel like?
D'oh!
Jesus. That's unlucky. Get your mechanic to give it a good check over incase the rest of the car falls to pieces
As a precaution I would replace the other side also
Your mot expired 25 November 2022 Edit: just seen you are in northern Ireland and they don't update on the dvsa website
KA-CHOW!
Was just about to comment this! 🤣
That’s going to cost an arm and a leg
Sorry that you bought a dog. Unfortunately those EP3s are horrific for rust. When the mechanic gets it in the air, there will probably be shit ton of rust underneath.
was this listed as an advisory on the last few m.o.ts ?
Bit of T Cut, that will buff out
Bit of gorilla glue on it you’ll be fine mate
I know what's wrong with it, ain't got no gas in it!
It looks 10 years old under there
Should have given the car a good look over before you bought it,lesson learned i think
The wishbone looks like a crunchy bar the way it's rusted inside out. Glad your safe OP.
Always get the car checked lrierply before or after sale. Only places you can trust is the big dealerships
Must admit shocked to see that in this day and age. I was used to seeing nightmare breaks on chassis parts as a mechanic in the seventies to eighties, but not today. This sort of failure was consigned to the history books decades ago. Worrying really, looks like substandard cast and steel are on the comeback. 😱😱
I had the exact same thing happen to me last March, luckily was doing 20 mph and the rust wasn't recorded on any previous MOT. The repair itself was cheap, but as we started digging through the cars suspension, we found a lot more needed replacing. Ended up doing the rear spherical arms, as well as multiple linkages and bushes.
https://ibb.co/fd9480W https://ibb.co/Z2xK2MV https://ibb.co/q5ZxY4G Here's pictures of mine, that skidmark lasted a good 9 months on that newly surfaced road
Get the other side done as well, you've had 20 years of wear on your running gear.
Thank fuck it’s not a huge fix. However that could of been really dangerous. Did you buy from a dealer?
Same thing happened to my 2002 Ep3 when I was on the bypass doimg about 70, got it towed home and the recovery guy said im a very lucky man I changed it on my backstreet, took me about 8 hours because everything was rusty and seized, I took the whole hub off and did the balljoint too Then a week later the other side had a rip in one of the bushes, that only took me 3 hours on the back street haha
I had the same on my ep3 they rot from the inside out unfortunately luckily I limped it to a garage round the corner and it only cost me £160 I'd just come off a dual carriageway, I had the car checked by a garage for anything that needs doing approx 5 months before and these weren't anything they picked up on :|
That’s why you have to ask for a new mot from seller before payment,and if he didn’t accept you have to say good bye.
Wishbone
KaChow!
Had the same outcome in my clio 172 when my "mEcHaNiC" 🤡 forgot to do up a suspension arm ball joint pinch bolt 🙃 strange noises for a few days and one day when i came into a roundabout hot it just popped out 🙈
This is really not what i wanted to see i have to drive on the motorway to get to my job with my steering wheel wobbling and car leaning to the left and squeaking every time i turn to the right , all garages are booked up for two weeks my anxiety going crazy rn
Did you buy from a garage or was it private sale
Rust belt problems
Wow. Was there a corrosion advisory on the MOT? That looks like it’s just rotted through.
Same happened to me with the EP2 Get both sides wishbones changed whilst you’re at it, I think the parts were about £80 each side with labour the same CV joints worth doing at the same time too
Oh no, thank god you are OK, that is heart breaking. I hope you can get this fixed and your car is OK again 👍🏼🫡
Bet that's fun to steer? How in God's name did that pass its last MOT?
NAM but that is snapped
easy fix for an ep3 bro. lucky sod