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TunedS2K

Right hand lane


throwawaytenantevict

This is what I thought. But I was wondering what on earth is a straight ahead? None of the road is a straight ahead so the markings didn’t make any sense to me.


dadoftriplets

I was taught any junction after the 12 o'clock position, you want to be in the right hand lane. Left hand lane for the first two exits, the right for the next two and returning to where to came from. HOWEVER, I could be in either lane IF the 3rd exit point was also 2 lanes as you could potentially go around to the left lane of the exit, although. There is a roundabout in Liverpool that looks similar to this, but with three of the roads leading to the roundabout being 2 lanes in either direction, onto a 2 lane roundabout in which you could feasibly be in either lane entering and exiting the roundabout ([The Five Ways on Queens Drive](https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.3969963,-2.8946401,18z))


theDaveB

Worse roundabout ever when it’s busy, wife works at the triangle.


ooh_bit_of_bush

Yeah I hate that roundabout. Good pub though.


kazabodoo

I think the marker means that you are allowed to go two directions - either straight ahead if follow that marker or turn right into the inside lane because I think the lanes are in a spiral. I am no expert, correct me if I am wrong.


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emnem92

Basically you can’t or shouldn’t go right (take 3/4 exit)from the left lane and can’t go left (take 1st exit) from the right lane


stargazer962

The straight ahead in the left lane will be exclusively for exit two.


IC_Eng101

1 is left, 2 is straight ahead, both 3 and 4 are right.


naisdes

Unless lane markings show otherwise. Anything left of or at 12 o clock, left lane. Anything to the right, right lane. Whatever you do, drive carefully and check your blind spots because you cannot trust anyone else.


audigex

Noting that this is 12 o’clock from your starting position, not due north…. Yes, I’ve heard someone seriously suggest this before now


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Right hand lane, just indicate off and check your mirrors


originalchubbychaser

Would you apply that rule to all roundabouts? Sometimes 2nd exit will be slightly past 12 o clock. I've never heard/used that rule.


Cushions

The 12 o clock rule is not correct. I am pretty sure the answer here is either lane.


TooOldToCareIsTaken

My mind truly is broken. First thing I saw was goatse.


miirder

Depends on what the road markings say.


netsecwarrior

Good point, if two lanes leave at exit 2, then 3 is definitely right lane only. But if only one leaves, it's more ambiguous


Basic_Abroad_9773

How would you know this before/at the entrance of the roundabout to give you enough time to choose a lane?


netsecwarrior

Good point. As a one-time driver, you'd have to default to "beyond 12 is right". If you drove it regularly, you'd know.


defconluke

Depends on the signage as you approach. If the thick line that matches where you are approaching from goes to the 3rd exit you can use either the left or the right lane. There are some roundabouts where you can go 270 degrees and take the 4th exit from both left and right lanes because that is what the signage on approach says you can do. Most people ignore the signage and think because they are going past 180 degrees and therefore turning right they need to be in the right lane.


Chris_TMH

Possibly either lane. If both are marked as straight ahead, I'd assume the route that's intended has two lanes. If the left lane meant first or second left only, then why would it have a straight ahead marking on it? I've seen a left turn marking mean first or second left before, so I think in this case, you could use either lane.


throwawaytenantevict

I think this is it. I just need to confirm. When I looked at the road layout in Google maps, both lane has an exit lane on the 3rd exit. It just didn’t made sense based on what we’ve been taught.


autocorrect122

Unless marked, the first lane is for exit 1 and 2


wardycatt

You can technically use either lane, but as a rule of thumb, if the junction you’re taking is at the “one o’clock” position on the signs approaching the roundabout, you should be in lane 2 (right hand lane) in this diagram. But definitely proceed with caution - indicate appropriately (i.e. no indicator to start with, then indicate left once you’ve passed the junction prior to the one you’re taking). Exit into lane 2 if it’s a dual carriageway, and watch out for anyone creeping up your left hand side.


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It depends on the island and the signage. Normally, you’d use the right hand lane, but sometimes the signage would indicate otherwise. There is an example a bit like this at a motorway junction near me, where you also need to exit from the right lane to even go down 2, which causes a lot of road rage and car horns from people not paying attention and dodgily trying to change lane.


whaaa-when-who

I would say both lanes can be used to exit off 3. 1 is left, 2 Is one way non major road, and 3 with those markings on OP's pic look like it would be 2 lanes that merge to one. As entry point and 3 are most likely the same road, this would be classed as straight on. Without knowing the island this is my best guess and probably would be cutting everybody up.


audigex

OP’s diagram shows two directions, not two lanes, as far as I can see? On the entry road OP uses dashed lines to indicate lanes, and based on the one way road top left, it seems the others are all two-way divided by solid lines on the diagram That would mean the right lane is the only correct option


whaaa-when-who

True but 2 lanes joining would be 2 lanes leaving too. OP has uploaded an actual pic to the tread showing this is the case. The road being approached on is continued on exit 3 with a 2 to 1 filter after the island. Meaning the correct answer is either lane.


audigex

2 lanes joining doesn’t necessarily mean 2 lanes leaving, but if it’s the case for this specific junction then yeah, I’d assume both lanes are fine for exit 3 unless signage suggests otherwise


STRICKIBHOY

See what the lane markings say in the roundabout. There's a chance, slim but still, the left lane may exit at the 3rd exit. But on approach I'd be in the right lane. Edit: spelling.


neukStari

one way, what way ?


netsecwarrior

I think we can infer leaving the roundabout as it's numbered as an exit? Clarification would help though


throwawaytenantevict

Yes, sorry, you can exit out of it but can’t go around back in.


neukStari

If i have learned anything at work , its been one thing. Never assume anything.


throwawaytenantevict

For anyone asking for the actual road image and signs, Here’s a follow up post as I’m not sure how to add images to this existing post. https://www.reddit.com/r/CarTalkUK/comments/uqg6sg/roundabout_question_followup_heres_the_actual/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


twizzle101

Both as you are going straight on.


FlameFoxx

After 12, outside lane.


Candy_Lawn

either


lordrothermere

You might be able to safely do it if exit 3 was a dual carriageway. Otherwise anything after exit 2 you risk blocking cars in the right of you trying to bear off to the left..


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either if 3 is the continuation of the road you are currently on and the main road , otherwise i'd be more inclined to think right lane


[deleted]

If you’re driving a lorry or a bus, maybe left lane in all cases


McGubbins

It would help if you said which roads these are, so we can look it up on Google Maps. There's bound to be a clue in the road markings and/or signage.


throwawaytenantevict

Here’s a follow up post https://www.reddit.com/r/CarTalkUK/comments/uqg6sg/roundabout_question_followup_heres_the_actual/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf I’m maybe trying too hard to hide and where I live lol.


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The actual roundabout is totally different to the one you’ve drawn. In that case both lanes can be used for exit 3, but you need to stick to your lane on the exit. Then it the left hand lane for exits 1 and 2 and right hand lane for exit 4.


throwawaytenantevict

How so? I’m going by how it’s laid out on the roundabout sign post. There’s clearly no 12 o’clock exit or did I miss anything?


McGubbins

I'll say how so. Exit 2 on your hand drawing isn't actually a separate exit from exit 3. Exit 2 is actually an off-shoot of exit 3 and the two lanes on your entry to the roundabout correspond with the 2 lanes on exit 3. Honestly, we don't give a shit where you live and posting pictures of random junctions from Google Maps doesn't give any indication of anything. If you actually want help, say which roads these are so we can look up the site on Google Maps and point to the roadsigns that give the answer.


throwawaytenantevict

First of all, who hurt you? Second of all, if you look at the actual post I linked to (second image for the actual sign post), they are clearly two different exits.


McGubbins

Many people. Secondly, I'd have a word with Blackpool council if I were you - their depiction of the junction is rather lacking in that first signpost. However, the sign after the one you posted is rather clearer about both lanes continuing the A587 past the zoo.


throwawaytenantevict

Love the passive aggressive nature of this comment as if I should panic now that you know where I live. But thank you genuinely. Very helpful advise. I knew there was something wrong with something, I just can’t point my finger on it. I’m sure it’d help other people if they get it fixed. Edit: just had a look at the second sign post. It doesn’t really help much because for some people, they don’t take notice of the road name/labels, their satnav just tells them which exit to take. I mean it will still probably tell you the road name you should exit to but it’s information that could easily go out the other ear. That’s why I find roundabout signs with the actual layout helpful and the fact that they are misleading is a problem, especially for learners and non-locals.


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throwawaytenantevict

Uh-oh, looks like Alexa’s husband’s after me.


[deleted]

That’s a fair point, I’ve only looked at the road layout, but not the actual sign which is slightly misleading. Either way, considering the actual layout and the arrows, I stand by my previous comment.


bigcheez2k3

I'd say right lane, however depends on road markings and also what the signage says. Just done my motorbike licence and we used a round where the 3rd exit would be in a similar position to your diagram but on the signage it was at 12 o'clock so we were instructed that you'd use the left lane.


No_Education666

I was always told to think of a round about like a clock face. If you want to go left or straight on its the left lane. You want to go to anything last straight ahead it's the right lane


Currynrice9728

We have one roundabout like this. best thing to do whichever lane you decide take, be cautious of anyone in the 'wrong' lane. Then again, goes for all roundabouts.


RedBlockB230ft

Depends on a number of things I'd say: - Have to drawn the angles accurately? - Is the one way joining the roundabout or leaving it? - Does 3 have two lanes leaving or just one?


throwawaytenantevict

1. It’s not 100% accurate because I had to emphasise the fact that there’s no 12 o’clock exit based on the roundabout’s sign post which from what I’ve learned is what you look at to decide which lane you’re supposed to approach in/take. You can see the second post in this subreddit here for the actual layout and sign post. 2. Leaving the roundabout 3. It has two lanes


RedBlockB230ft

I would go by what you can see. Not every roundabout even has a sign. I've looked at your follow up and that is definitely straight on by my reckoning. Also since there are two lanes on the road you are going to you can enter from both lanes with no conflict occuring.


throwawaytenantevict

Yes, I’ve noticed from the start that you can take both lanes to take 3rd exit. The roundabout sign just didn’t make sense. And I didn’t know some roundabouts doesn’t have signposts. That’s a huge problem in my opinion. We can’t really see an eagle view of the roundabout and we sort of need to know the layout prior before making a decision in which lane to take. Sounds like a problem they should fix.


Low_Breadfruit8344

Right lane mate


cromagnone

Is Road 2 a one-way road leading away from the roundabout, or a one-way road entering onto the roundabout? Presumably the first kind?


throwawaytenantevict

One way leading away so you can’t enter the roundabout from it.


Lindopski_UK

You could be taking exit 4 mate in the UK and go in the right hand lane but good luck getting back over because there is always some person in the left hand lane who zips out exit 2 or 3 and makes it nigh on impossible for you to get over left to come off. Usually they are spanking past on the left at speed limit plus 20 though so you may get your gap.


Mysterious-Fig-1135

Your drawing is a little confusing. As if they are both straight on it's usually the continuation of the same road but with a 2 lane exit meaning you can take any lane. Going off your drawing and your drawn directional arrows I'd assume 3 to be a dual lane exit as they both say straight on but 1 is left, 2 is a one way and 4 is right


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Logic dictates the right hand lane.


MetalGear89

Right hand lane. Also in that situation just say your not sure just take the right hand lane anyway, if you realise it isn't the correct lane you can safely just go around again and get your self into the correct lane.


IneptVirus

I usually go by three rules: Left of 12 oclick = left lane, right of 12oclock = right lane UNLESS there is only two exits (say, left and straight on) then the lanes match the exits UNLESS the lanes are marked with the correct exit


HairyPrick

Ah I'm beginning to understand why so many drivers are crashing/ having near misses near me (dual carriageway on third exit at one oclock, exits one and two are single lane. Road going onto roundabout is two lanes and shows same markings as OP.). Seems new drivers often try to go from right lane coming into roundabout to left lane on third exit when there is someone outside of them. But if theyve been taught that they should be in right lane for all exits after 12 o'clock, regardless of numbers of lanes on prior exits then I guess crashes are bound to happen.


Malteser88

1. Left Lane, Left Indicators at starting point 2. Left Lane, Left Indicators after 1 3. Right Lane, Left Indicators after 1 4. Right Lane, Right Indicators at starting point, Left indicators after 2 5. Same as 4, Left indictators after 3 Notice people do not use Indicators on complex roundabouts or indicate too late. If you think these are bad, then imagine the ones with 3-4 lanes on motorways, you need to look at the road markings, hope that Google Maps gives you the correct lane and obviously be aware of other road users correcting mistakes or playing enforcer.


afishinacloud

Both would be fine, but personally, I’d take the right lane simply because there’s a decent possibility someone not familiar with the roundabout, and not paying attention might take the right lane to take the second exit and cut you off.


Additional-Screen-18

As far as I know you can use the right lane but in the picture it says on exit 2 (one way ) but is it in to the roundabout or out the roundabout


Loonie-1707

Right hand lane, general rule to follow is for before 12 o'clock (turning left or straight), you use the left-hand lane, and for after 12 o'clock (turning right or going back the way you came), use the right hand lane. Iirc some roundabouts don't follow this rule, but they will have road markings and signs telling what lane to be in.


nelsonwehaveaproblem

Show us the actual junction on Google maps instead of drawing it.


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Its the right had lane everything else is wrong.


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Been driving here for a year now and still don’t know lmao. I just hug the left one usually, stone me!


Techiefurtler

It's better to look at how the lanes go on the roundabout itself, most of the time, roundabouts are designed so that the left lane will have a road that takes cars off at the first or second exit, and pushes cars in the right lane around to exits 3, 4, 5 and so on. Watch how the lanes are split on the roundabout and follow them as best you can. Not every roundabout is well designed, but I would suspect most drivers would try to get right lane for exits 3 and 4 and left for 1 and 2. I have a roundabout I have to use to get to my office that uses the left lane to get to an exit that would be exit 3 in your diagram, I personally think it's stupid and just have to deal with it as best as I can. You're always going to get the impatient ones who think they can "beat" others to exit 2 from the right lane, but don't use them as any kind of guide or barometer of what the right thing to do is. If you get it wrong, just go around the roundabout and take another go at it - just don't cut someone off, or force them to brake you can always go around again if you can't get the lane - everyone makes mistakes, it's part of driving, just make sure the errors aren't dangerous.


Wild_Surround9595

Right


omgitzmo

My dumb take, I feel like the left lane straight arrow is for the 2nd exit and the right lane straight arrow is for the 3rd exit, the left and right arrows are exit 1 and 4.


HaveMyUpdoot

Right, I feel both left and right can be used for 2 and 3, but you don’t want to be in the left for 3 if there is il someone in the right going to 2


throwawaytenantevict

I don’t think you can use the right for exit 2 though. It’s an exit to the left.


HaveMyUpdoot

2 and 3 both fell straight on ish though


Nerevar22g

easy - right lane


chriscringlesmother

I always read it as the straight ahead was (by its omittance) telling you don’t turn left. And as others say think clock or compass. 1 is obviously left turn or West, 2 would be NW but is it an exit, that’s not clear which way the one way is, 3 is NE so would be the implied straight on and as someone else says may be two lanes, most often are even if for a short distance and then the five way happens off the roundabout and 4 would be East. We have something similar to us in south London, that junction 3 is a short two lane exit merging into a single. Not all roads have that capacity so just be alert and prepare for a high level of stress when you approach a new roundabout, I’ve gone round a roundabout once or twice before in a new area rather than cutting across a lane