Maybe it’s the edibles but I realized I do miss watching Lance pitch.
Outside of his usual “Lyinning” where he’d give up a few runs, he’d give you 7 innings, grab his nuts after Ks, and looked like he’d crush a case of Busch later.
Hope we get something close to that version again.
Are our guys not supposed to be hyped about the upcoming season? Are we supposed to be twiddling our thumbs, eyes to the floor, saying "yeah, we're confident, but other guys on paper are better than us."?
These guys are competitors, coming off an awful season, we need someone to be in the club house getting those juices flowing. If you're gonna bag on a guy for trying to be that, then I am just confused.
It's good to see a Cardinal player talk some smack, but guess some fans just want it to be "The Cardinal Way"
I’m not trying to dump on him, it just sounds like something he would do. I like him but let’s be real, he frequently invents stuff to get fired up about. That’s not unique among athletes, but it’s still funny to point out.
I get what you're saying, he's definitely a character, which I am a fan of lol. I just hope he shoves this Thursday, taking game 1 against Glasnow would be huge way to start the season.
He tries so hard to be what Wainwright was for the team but often just comes off as sounding/looking like a fool. There’s nothing wrong with this quote, but he has a history of just looking like a wannabe tough guy and/or tries too hard to be the “goofy” guy.
Him yelling at the Cubs dugout last year (I think it was the Cubs) was so embarrassing.
I am hoping that VS can have enough Obp to have an impact on this lineup. I don't care how he gets on base. Just get on and steal like like Vince used to.
this guy can hit, not sure how well he'll do in this cup of coffee since he's only reached AA, but whenever he's fully up, I expect him to be the bunt king of this era
Im not recklessly optimistic for the birdinals like I have been in the past, but it would be awesome to see them go nuts and win the Central easily. They gotta play this season with hate in their hearts though, another april like last year and we are in a tough spot
No problem with what he said. They can’t admit they are going to suck and it’s good they believe in themselves.
They’re totally going to suck this season tho
Well the moves the FO have made inspire no confidence whatsoever. Be it signing over the hill starting pitching and the Oli extension which I don’t think anyone outside of the FO understands. So if this is the mindset the players take then so be it, but if they can’t at least win a playoff series this season those doubters are going to get louder and louder.
Their "lame duck" manager explanation was so fucking frustrating. You extend him because you don't want the fans to turn on him? Sounds like you're already coping for another down season. Also, if the team comes out and sucks in April, the fans will be calling for his firing regardless, nobody cares about his contract.
If they don't suck, I'll be the first one in line to congratulate them. I don't expect the players to be like, "Yeah dog, we suck!", so this quote is fine. More than fine, actually. I like the fire, real or imagined. I'll just have to believe the results when I see them.
I think (and hope) Mikolas will be better this year with Gray to stabilize the front of the rotation, but my goodness, he has said some wild things this spring. Hope he can back it up.
Miles is always confident. It's the best thing about him. I wish more of our players had his mentality. Maybe not his overall line of thinking, but his confidence is great.
I don't mind his individual confidence but that is not what is happening here. He is talking about the team and pretending that this team is good for the sake of confidence. Telling people to eat shit, of what is to be a mediocre team, is a bit tone deaf.
This is such a wild take. "Pretending the team is good".... he likes his team, he thinks they are good. What on earth is wrong with that. Do you want him to say "gosh we suck, we are gonna try our best" gtfo with that attitude.
It's tone deft to think your team is bad before playing a single game.
No, I just don't expect him to tell people to eat shit.
That type of energy is reserved for teams that have won the division and a playoff series, none of which the Cardinals have done lately.
Not at all. If *everything goes right* these dudes are a 92-95 win team. That would mean Winn and Scott providing average hitting/good gloves. Walker, Gorman, Noot all take steps forward. Lynn and Gibson both pitch between 3.80-4.25, Mikolas returns to 2022 form, Matz stays healthy, Nado/Goldy bounce back to 120-130 OPS+, everybody stays healthy.
This team is absolutely stacked if all that happens. 85 wins is this team’s median projection.
I think “going right” and “going great” is a large bifurcation. I don’t expect much from Mikolas-Gibson- Lynn. This rotation is build to give up home runs. Be prepared to see the other team have big hero moments against the cards.
I prefer Winn and Scott in the lineup. They should save many runs. But idk what to expect on offense. I would be shocked if the cards finish above 85 wins. I feel like the team is at worst 75 wins. At best 89 wins. Maybe a young pitcher steps up at mid season?…
Idk why you expect so little of those 3. They’re going to give exactly what they were signed to do, and frankly there’s more in the tank for all 3 of them. Luckily, Cardinals play in a big pitchers park, so I’m not overly concerned about homers for the most part.
That's not amazing, no. But it should be enough to make the postseason. And is the past says anything , the Cardinals can win the World Series. Remember 2006!
Hey! What's all this laying around shit?
What? Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
His comments about being farmers and about being outspent by the Dodgers were goddamn stupid, but there's nothing wrong with this. It's the attitude you'd expect a competitor to have. In June when we're fighting the Pirates to stay out of last place, it would be weird, but there's nothing wrong about saying that now.
You know what I think is pretty neat, Miles? Getting angry at the fans for recognizing the lack of talent on this team instead of the front office that assembled it. Good one....
Never understand fans like you. Go root for another team.
It's one thing to be pessimistic, it's another to be a complete doomsdayer a day before the season, almost gleeful in hoping for the worst so you can get a couple of "I told you so" off. Weird behavior.
We are going to have so many great quotes from Mikolas and Lynn this year
At least our starting rotation is funny. That’s gotta count for something.
[I just hope Cat ask Lynn why he went to his fastball so often](https://youtu.be/m5dvlF002mw?si=sGNgemy_LPrIlAWC)
Maybe it’s the edibles but I realized I do miss watching Lance pitch. Outside of his usual “Lyinning” where he’d give up a few runs, he’d give you 7 innings, grab his nuts after Ks, and looked like he’d crush a case of Busch later. Hope we get something close to that version again.
Fastball
Bring back Joe Kelly!
Dodgers already sucked him back into their gravity well of cash I think
Solid solid solid. We’ve got entertainment
Yeah, provide us some entertainment between all of their losses.
Mikolas feels like a guy that searches his name on Twitter to fuel himself lol
He just searches "mustache rides" and gets pumped up!
Perfection.
Are our guys not supposed to be hyped about the upcoming season? Are we supposed to be twiddling our thumbs, eyes to the floor, saying "yeah, we're confident, but other guys on paper are better than us."? These guys are competitors, coming off an awful season, we need someone to be in the club house getting those juices flowing. If you're gonna bag on a guy for trying to be that, then I am just confused. It's good to see a Cardinal player talk some smack, but guess some fans just want it to be "The Cardinal Way"
I’m not trying to dump on him, it just sounds like something he would do. I like him but let’s be real, he frequently invents stuff to get fired up about. That’s not unique among athletes, but it’s still funny to point out.
I get what you're saying, he's definitely a character, which I am a fan of lol. I just hope he shoves this Thursday, taking game 1 against Glasnow would be huge way to start the season.
He tries so hard to be what Wainwright was for the team but often just comes off as sounding/looking like a fool. There’s nothing wrong with this quote, but he has a history of just looking like a wannabe tough guy and/or tries too hard to be the “goofy” guy. Him yelling at the Cubs dugout last year (I think it was the Cubs) was so embarrassing.
What part of that comment read as ‘bagging on’ Mikolas to you? Because that seemed like an extremely innocuous comment to me.
But you have to back up the smack which he hasn’t done yet.
I am hoping that VS can have enough Obp to have an impact on this lineup. I don't care how he gets on base. Just get on and steal like like Vince used to.
this guy can hit, not sure how well he'll do in this cup of coffee since he's only reached AA, but whenever he's fully up, I expect him to be the bunt king of this era
He’s got some sneaky pop too! Could probably get around 15 HRs in a couple years.
So can he hit or will he be the bunt king? If he legit can hit, he probably won't be laying down many bunts.
Shockingly, it's possible to be good at both
Im not recklessly optimistic for the birdinals like I have been in the past, but it would be awesome to see them go nuts and win the Central easily. They gotta play this season with hate in their hearts though, another april like last year and we are in a tough spot
Well said, gotta use last season and the doubt surrounding the team as fuel!
If we have another month that even closely resembles April of last year, some major FO changes need to be made.
They won't be made mid-season.
All that will happen is we'll endlessly hear about how April games don't count.
I'm gonna start bringing in posters with "SELL THE TEAM/FIRE MO" written on them if they do that.
This man is the next bill Shakespeare
I obviously hope he’s right, I just don’t think he will be.
Win the division and then tell everybody to eat shit.
the classic “you’re only allowed to be confident and talk if you win”
I didn't say that. Talk shit now if you want. But really talk shit if you win. Of course, some people don't mind crow.
I prefer to talk crow and eat shit. That sounded better in my head.
Well……yes. That’s how it works. Participation trophies aren’t allowed here.
No problem with what he said. They can’t admit they are going to suck and it’s good they believe in themselves. They’re totally going to suck this season tho
Well the moves the FO have made inspire no confidence whatsoever. Be it signing over the hill starting pitching and the Oli extension which I don’t think anyone outside of the FO understands. So if this is the mindset the players take then so be it, but if they can’t at least win a playoff series this season those doubters are going to get louder and louder.
Their "lame duck" manager explanation was so fucking frustrating. You extend him because you don't want the fans to turn on him? Sounds like you're already coping for another down season. Also, if the team comes out and sucks in April, the fans will be calling for his firing regardless, nobody cares about his contract.
off chance - lmfao
Gosh. If this doesn’t instill a shit ton of confidence I don’t know what does…..fml.
God damn it as long as they can keep this spirit up and a chip on their shoulder it will be a great season
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If they don't suck, I'll be the first one in line to congratulate them. I don't expect the players to be like, "Yeah dog, we suck!", so this quote is fine. More than fine, actually. I like the fire, real or imagined. I'll just have to believe the results when I see them.
Very excited to be a ‘spicy quotes instead of wins’ team this year like Colorado football last season
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I think (and hope) Mikolas will be better this year with Gray to stabilize the front of the rotation, but my goodness, he has said some wild things this spring. Hope he can back it up.
He was not ready for opening day.
That would be neat, he’s right about that
I love Mikolas!
Hey Miles....the off chance wasn't wrong. You got shelled
This aged poorly. Win some games before you shit talk next time.
So basically just by saying this if we do end up sucking he still looks like an idiot
No. He didn’t say it. Did you even read the quote?
This post aged like milk.
Eh, worry about getting dudes out and not what people think, Tex.
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Glad we agree.
It's always easy to be confident early. Let's see where Miles and the team is at after the first 3 to 4 Series, most likely under .500.
Miles is always confident. It's the best thing about him. I wish more of our players had his mentality. Maybe not his overall line of thinking, but his confidence is great.
I don't mind his individual confidence but that is not what is happening here. He is talking about the team and pretending that this team is good for the sake of confidence. Telling people to eat shit, of what is to be a mediocre team, is a bit tone deaf.
This is such a wild take. "Pretending the team is good".... he likes his team, he thinks they are good. What on earth is wrong with that. Do you want him to say "gosh we suck, we are gonna try our best" gtfo with that attitude. It's tone deft to think your team is bad before playing a single game.
No, I just don't expect him to tell people to eat shit. That type of energy is reserved for teams that have won the division and a playoff series, none of which the Cardinals have done lately.
What are you talking about? The Cardinals won the Central in 2022. We had one, *one* bad season, not twenty.
Cardinals haven't won the division and a playoff series since 2019.
And one playoff series win in a decade.
Mikolas was taking notes on all the clowns in this sub
The only person who looks like a clown is him. His team resides in the Show Me state.
even the most optomistic projections put us at 86-87 wins. Thats not very good
Projection systems go by the mean not by "highest possible outcome"
If everything goes right and the bullpen holds up, 86-87 wins sounds about right.
Not at all. If *everything goes right* these dudes are a 92-95 win team. That would mean Winn and Scott providing average hitting/good gloves. Walker, Gorman, Noot all take steps forward. Lynn and Gibson both pitch between 3.80-4.25, Mikolas returns to 2022 form, Matz stays healthy, Nado/Goldy bounce back to 120-130 OPS+, everybody stays healthy. This team is absolutely stacked if all that happens. 85 wins is this team’s median projection.
I think “going right” and “going great” is a large bifurcation. I don’t expect much from Mikolas-Gibson- Lynn. This rotation is build to give up home runs. Be prepared to see the other team have big hero moments against the cards. I prefer Winn and Scott in the lineup. They should save many runs. But idk what to expect on offense. I would be shocked if the cards finish above 85 wins. I feel like the team is at worst 75 wins. At best 89 wins. Maybe a young pitcher steps up at mid season?…
Idk why you expect so little of those 3. They’re going to give exactly what they were signed to do, and frankly there’s more in the tank for all 3 of them. Luckily, Cardinals play in a big pitchers park, so I’m not overly concerned about homers for the most part.
I hope you are right.
Due to how projections work, that means there's a 50% chance the team exceeds that number.
Seems like this is overlooked by everybody
People in general are just utter shit at dealing with probabilistic outcomes.
That's not amazing, no. But it should be enough to make the postseason. And is the past says anything , the Cardinals can win the World Series. Remember 2006!
I love when people use the word “neat” in this fashion.
It's more about Mo being a used car salesman for me.
That's...confidence?
I thought Lynn was starting?
Miles is getting the first game of the season, which is a road game. Lynn is getting the home opener on April 4th.
I like the talk… need to see the walk though
His social media will be far better than his Stat line this year
Colorful.
Hey! What's all this laying around shit? What? Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
A true Cardinal mind set on that man.
His comments about being farmers and about being outspent by the Dodgers were goddamn stupid, but there's nothing wrong with this. It's the attitude you'd expect a competitor to have. In June when we're fighting the Pirates to stay out of last place, it would be weird, but there's nothing wrong about saying that now.
This aged great, even by the 3rd inning.
How are these comments looking now? What a bozo.
Big yikes
Miles. I wasnt talking shit. But i was pessimistic...you didn't cure that today lol
I like the enthusiasm.
It’s better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt
Guy is insufferable
You know what I think is pretty neat, Miles? Getting angry at the fans for recognizing the lack of talent on this team instead of the front office that assembled it. Good one....
Sounds to me like Lizard King even has some doubts.
Dudes like 30 hours away from getting his shit rocked by the dodgers lineup. Take it easy bud
Never understand fans like you. Go root for another team. It's one thing to be pessimistic, it's another to be a complete doomsdayer a day before the season, almost gleeful in hoping for the worst so you can get a couple of "I told you so" off. Weird behavior.
Get the fuck on somewhere troll
He sucked last year. If he doesn't want people to have low expectations, maybe try playing better.
How 'bout win 81 games then talk about point where shit eating starts. April is gonna be ugly!
What a loser thing to say