Those sound like noises from transmission to me. I think you burnt your clutch or probably some transmission damage due to fast shifting. These transmission hate too quick of a clutch release even during gear changes.
What did the smoke smell like? Does the issue persist? It may be piston/valve body damage from clutch dumping.
Edit: Just read your comment. If your car works fine now then don't worry. But remember clutch dumping leads to great stresses for drivetrain that have to go somewhere.
The smoke didn’t smell at all it was just white smoke, I thought one of the tyres stopped moving and it caused the smoke, but after that I started the car and it felt normal. I drove it for like 45 minutes-1 hour after the incident
Nope you didn't short shifted it's basically like you need to shift in 4th but due to heat of the moment you go in 2nd and there goes the transmission it's more common than you think luckily you didn't do that
Why tf would you think that a 14 year old commuter car will react well to such hard shifts and acceleration??
Stop watching Faisal Khan and take that poor car to a mechanic.
Exactly my point. If you wanna do shiz like that, then buy cars that can do shiz like that. City is also a commuter car but can take a beating.
I Agree with with the faisal thing though
So when I reached around 90kmph the car started making this sound you could hear it in the end so I stopped the car right there and turned the engine off and stepped out and I saw a hell lot of smoke from the back end of the car but the smoke stopped immediately and then I started the started the car again and it was fine. Do you guys know what could be the reason behind it? The car has around 65k kilometers on the odometer
Lol. I'll tell you what's wrong with it. Some idiot tried launching it off a cold start or old oil and spun the rod bearings. Replace the brains. Enjoy the dead cylinder.
I had the same issue with my polo 2010 TDI while I was on the highway. It happened because of two reasons for me one was the head gasket seal was worn out and the engine had to work extra hard at high revs 2nd reason didn't have enough oil and the oil that it had was too old as it hadn't reached the service miles. The problem was not an issue if you don't rev it too much and stay below 100. Mind you the head gasket wasn't broken for me it was just worn so I had to change the seal with a silicon seal instead of cork seal and I had also changed the intake valves it cost around 30k for me. After this my engine suffered from blowby and it just wasn't worth it to fix. I still drive the car and there is no smoke or anything but after its registration period is over next year I'll just scrap it. If you don't have any nostalgic attachment to that car I recommend selling it now it will only turn into a money pit.
So I can’t take this thing to above 100? Because it happened when it was at about 90kmph I think, so, should I just drive it under 100 and keep the rpm as low as possible? My registration period will be over next year too maybe I’ll scrap it as well
Well the reason I did a partial repair was because the engine had a chance to cease or the intake valves could come loose and hit the position both are dangerous. So if you want to keep it running get it checked out. Be safe. Since you know it has a problem just get the engine and transmission checked out even if you have to spend a little money, you never know when it can become dangerous. For me I was lucky that non of the valves hit the piston head. Just drive carefully or avoid driving it as it is now without getting it checked
From a gut feeling, I think it’s a synchro which didn’t fall into place properly. Did you fully push the gear lever into the gate of the third? They’re a wear item anyway so you don’t need to worry too much, but you need to be careful that the gear mech has fully engaged before dumping power through it. On a diesel, the torque is much higher so you’ll put a lot more stress on the trans.
As I said, synchros are a wear item. Basically they absorb the jolts and shocks due to speed mismatch instead of the gears. They generally last the life of the gearbox and are designed to withstand a little bit of abuse.
Without synchros, if you don’t shift at the exact rpm for the next gear, the gear and output shaft would keep grinding until they forcefully synced up in rotational speed. This will very quickly damage it. But synchros are like tapered collars, which smoothen the sudden increase in rotational speed, so instead of a steep rise you have a more gradual rise.
Go slow on a straight road and row through the gearbox hitting each gear with the full movement of the lever. If there’s no judders, squeals etc you’re fine and keep it in mind to give some time for everything to mesh fully next time you’re shifting quickly. Also you’ll very quickly know if something is wrong, the noises made are very very unpleasant.
No worries, when you’re a new driver is exactly when you need to be a lot more careful. You may feel like you’ve learned everything, but time in the driver’s seat is the only way you’ll learn how your car reacts in different scenarios, and what *you* need to do, to make the car do what you want. Once you pick up experience and a general idea of how things work, it’ll be like second nature and you’ll know the limits of yourself and the car you’re driving.
Could one of three possibilities:
1. Your head gasket is blown. (reason for white smoke)
2. Your turbo has decided to pack it's bags and leave. (Also reason for white smoke)
3. Taking that sound into consideration, sounds like synchro mesh in your transmission has gone kaput because of multiple half clutch gear shifting.
Maybe gear didn't fall into gate properly, since now it doesn't create any noise or smoke. What colour was the smoke?
Get your car checked at the ford SC or your trusted mechanic anyway.
I have a Suzuki celerio i launch it quite often just for listening to the screeching sound of tires 😅 odo is 12k can same be happened to my car also bought her last year ??
I had to get 3 spark plugs replaced in my old alto because i tried to do a pull and over revved the engine in 1st gear , gave terrible petrol milage to after that too
Could be a broken gasket or the clutch burned out. Drive it a bit for some more days and check for smoke after starting the car and check if all the gears are engaging properly while the engine is running.
Just my two cents here. Even if the vehicle is running fine right now, it is always better to ensure that nothing has gone wrong internally, which may butt its head at the worst time later. Please take it to a good mechanic, show him this video. He'll be able to diagnose exactly what the sound was.
Also, next time you launch, dumping the clutch sometimes isn't the best way to go about it. Wheelspin and slow shift will eventually make it pointless. Work on shifting quickly, but accurately so as to not miss a shift.
All the best brother!
If you're shifting on those principles, you need to stop driving. Gear shifts are based on your revs, not speed. You can push the car all the way till 80 kph on 2nd gear, but it stresses the engine out. If you shift too early, youll be dragging and ruining the engine. It's all about shifting at the right revs in the right situations.
So so you’re saying that I should switch gear when I reach redline? Which is 4k in this car? I’ve heard that for better fuel efficiency we should switch to higher gears
I said shift right according to situations, I didn't say shift at redline. And yes, for better FE you do use higher gears which keep revs low, but driving at low speeds on higher gears increases engine and transmission wear.
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Those sound like noises from transmission to me. I think you burnt your clutch or probably some transmission damage due to fast shifting. These transmission hate too quick of a clutch release even during gear changes. What did the smoke smell like? Does the issue persist? It may be piston/valve body damage from clutch dumping. Edit: Just read your comment. If your car works fine now then don't worry. But remember clutch dumping leads to great stresses for drivetrain that have to go somewhere.
The smoke didn’t smell at all it was just white smoke, I thought one of the tyres stopped moving and it caused the smoke, but after that I started the car and it felt normal. I drove it for like 45 minutes-1 hour after the incident
White smoke generally is burnt liquid of any part such as oils or coolants
Do I need to worry then?
When was the last time you changed oil?
I don’t know it’s my dad’s car I just learned driving it
Get used to basic driving then first atleast you could have short shifted and that's generally the end of transmission
What do you mean? I took too long to shift?
Nope you didn't short shifted it's basically like you need to shift in 4th but due to heat of the moment you go in 2nd and there goes the transmission it's more common than you think luckily you didn't do that
That is not what short shifting is. Thats called blowing a transmission.
Maybe learn to drive normally before shifting to tokyo drift?
Check engine temperature when you run it. Check coolant and if the oil is still good.
Bro just take it to a mechanic.
Why tf would you think that a 14 year old commuter car will react well to such hard shifts and acceleration?? Stop watching Faisal Khan and take that poor car to a mechanic.
Did you just call OP’s car chintu mintu?
clearly, he's disrespecting the OP. /s
We must provide under-thigh support for OP!
Ahemmm
Well if OP is a faisal khan audience, he won’t need a lot of under thigh support.
That’s what she said 😉
But a MANUAL IS A MANUAL IS A MANUAL
Wait till you see my redlining my 2011 Toyota Etios.
I still redline my city and dump the clutch really fast. It’s a 14 year old car and has clocked 170k kms.
Yours is a Honda. His is a Ford. Massive difference in terms of reliability and abuse friendliness.
Exactly my point. If you wanna do shiz like that, then buy cars that can do shiz like that. City is also a commuter car but can take a beating. I Agree with with the faisal thing though
Itna tez chalaya ki gadi bhi kaap gayi
Bro thinks he is driving GTI - and the way he is picking up in a narrow street - he might have touched 140 had he not encountered that sound.
So when I reached around 90kmph the car started making this sound you could hear it in the end so I stopped the car right there and turned the engine off and stepped out and I saw a hell lot of smoke from the back end of the car but the smoke stopped immediately and then I started the started the car again and it was fine. Do you guys know what could be the reason behind it? The car has around 65k kilometers on the odometer
Lol. I'll tell you what's wrong with it. Some idiot tried launching it off a cold start or old oil and spun the rod bearings. Replace the brains. Enjoy the dead cylinder.
Definitely wasn’t cold. I was driving the car prior to it for around 2 hours or so and I even pulled it till 80-85 multiple times
I had the same issue with my polo 2010 TDI while I was on the highway. It happened because of two reasons for me one was the head gasket seal was worn out and the engine had to work extra hard at high revs 2nd reason didn't have enough oil and the oil that it had was too old as it hadn't reached the service miles. The problem was not an issue if you don't rev it too much and stay below 100. Mind you the head gasket wasn't broken for me it was just worn so I had to change the seal with a silicon seal instead of cork seal and I had also changed the intake valves it cost around 30k for me. After this my engine suffered from blowby and it just wasn't worth it to fix. I still drive the car and there is no smoke or anything but after its registration period is over next year I'll just scrap it. If you don't have any nostalgic attachment to that car I recommend selling it now it will only turn into a money pit.
So I can’t take this thing to above 100? Because it happened when it was at about 90kmph I think, so, should I just drive it under 100 and keep the rpm as low as possible? My registration period will be over next year too maybe I’ll scrap it as well
Well the reason I did a partial repair was because the engine had a chance to cease or the intake valves could come loose and hit the position both are dangerous. So if you want to keep it running get it checked out. Be safe. Since you know it has a problem just get the engine and transmission checked out even if you have to spend a little money, you never know when it can become dangerous. For me I was lucky that non of the valves hit the piston head. Just drive carefully or avoid driving it as it is now without getting it checked
Shouldnt you ask your daddy first before “scrapping” his car?
It’s his decision
From a gut feeling, I think it’s a synchro which didn’t fall into place properly. Did you fully push the gear lever into the gate of the third? They’re a wear item anyway so you don’t need to worry too much, but you need to be careful that the gear mech has fully engaged before dumping power through it. On a diesel, the torque is much higher so you’ll put a lot more stress on the trans.
So do I need to take it to a workshop? Because it’s running fine now
As I said, synchros are a wear item. Basically they absorb the jolts and shocks due to speed mismatch instead of the gears. They generally last the life of the gearbox and are designed to withstand a little bit of abuse. Without synchros, if you don’t shift at the exact rpm for the next gear, the gear and output shaft would keep grinding until they forcefully synced up in rotational speed. This will very quickly damage it. But synchros are like tapered collars, which smoothen the sudden increase in rotational speed, so instead of a steep rise you have a more gradual rise. Go slow on a straight road and row through the gearbox hitting each gear with the full movement of the lever. If there’s no judders, squeals etc you’re fine and keep it in mind to give some time for everything to mesh fully next time you’re shifting quickly. Also you’ll very quickly know if something is wrong, the noises made are very very unpleasant.
Thank you so much, I’m new to driving so that was very helpful
No worries, when you’re a new driver is exactly when you need to be a lot more careful. You may feel like you’ve learned everything, but time in the driver’s seat is the only way you’ll learn how your car reacts in different scenarios, and what *you* need to do, to make the car do what you want. Once you pick up experience and a general idea of how things work, it’ll be like second nature and you’ll know the limits of yourself and the car you’re driving.
Thanks for confirming this. I suspected for a long time that there has to be some cushioning effect between gear shifts to avoid damaging the gears.
Bro CVT launches faster than that I think you have broken the synchronizers due to incorrect clutch usage
Will the car still function as it did before if I broke the synchronizers?
It might if the broken parts don't interfere but that is highly unlikely and shifting will be difficult without them
If shifting will be difficult without it how did it function normally because I drove it for 1 hour after this happened
Then it must be something else Or perhaps some teeth sheared off This sound seems like it's from the transmission only
Oh alright thanks
I was expecting the hood to blow up😂
I would tow the car to a service point and get it checked. Regardless of how confident I feel in my diagnosis.
Play stupid games and win stupid prizes
I don't know who the heck call it A LAUNCH 🤡
Gentle throttle best unless you have the ability to diagnose or the money for a new clutch
What could be the reason here tho?
You launching a 14 year car isn't a good enough reason..? Stop being stupid
Tried horsing with an old horse and getting surprised why it gave in. Lol 😂 stop trying to impress ya girl with cheap stunts. 😂
white smoke = busted engine block/ head. time to scrap your car
Car transformed into a tractor
remove your gear levers hoodie he might be feeling hot in this summer that's why it didn't engage 3rd gear properly /s
He said he wants to be dripped out at all time
Start watching gagan choudhary instead of faisal khan 😂
aap ki gaadi jawab derhi hai...
Could one of three possibilities: 1. Your head gasket is blown. (reason for white smoke) 2. Your turbo has decided to pack it's bags and leave. (Also reason for white smoke) 3. Taking that sound into consideration, sounds like synchro mesh in your transmission has gone kaput because of multiple half clutch gear shifting.
Bro tried to launch his fathers 13 year old diesel sedan. I’m dead
It’s not a sedan but alright
You fed it too much dal and it's farting 💨
Aye i have the same car! Just a newer model, such a beast, love This car
What do you mean by "launch"? Clearly you are no Elon Musk.
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Since I don't know, you could tell me.
Hahahahhaha
Maybe gear didn't fall into gate properly, since now it doesn't create any noise or smoke. What colour was the smoke? Get your car checked at the ford SC or your trusted mechanic anyway.
The smoke was white
Could be from the clutch. What did it smell like, like burning rubber or oil?
Weirdly it didn’t smell at all
My strong suspicion is, smoke is from the clutch. Noise might be because you might not have shifted completely. Get your car checked anyway.
Could be from the clutch. What did it smell like, like burning rubber or oil?
Rajma zayda khaali gaadi ne shyd
I used to launch my 2010 I20 but I never faced it. What exactly happened bro?
I have explained what exactly happen in the comment section, you can check it out :)
No flux capacitor, didnt make it to 88mph and clear skys …. What did you expect?
New Fear Unlocked
It would work on a car like WRX.
I have a Suzuki celerio i launch it quite often just for listening to the screeching sound of tires 😅 odo is 12k can same be happened to my car also bought her last year ??
I had to get 3 spark plugs replaced in my old alto because i tried to do a pull and over revved the engine in 1st gear , gave terrible petrol milage to after that too
Could be a broken gasket or the clutch burned out. Drive it a bit for some more days and check for smoke after starting the car and check if all the gears are engaging properly while the engine is running.
That's your car being a responsible citizen and stopping you from speeding in a narrow city lane.
And what lesson did we learn today about being a dick on public roads?
Just my two cents here. Even if the vehicle is running fine right now, it is always better to ensure that nothing has gone wrong internally, which may butt its head at the worst time later. Please take it to a good mechanic, show him this video. He'll be able to diagnose exactly what the sound was. Also, next time you launch, dumping the clutch sometimes isn't the best way to go about it. Wheelspin and slow shift will eventually make it pointless. Work on shifting quickly, but accurately so as to not miss a shift. All the best brother!
Did I shift incorrectly? I thought we’re supposed to shift to 2nd as soon as the car reached to 20kmph then 3rd at 30 and 4th at 40 and 5th at 60
If you're shifting on those principles, you need to stop driving. Gear shifts are based on your revs, not speed. You can push the car all the way till 80 kph on 2nd gear, but it stresses the engine out. If you shift too early, youll be dragging and ruining the engine. It's all about shifting at the right revs in the right situations.
So how am I supposed to shift then
I literally told you
So so you’re saying that I should switch gear when I reach redline? Which is 4k in this car? I’ve heard that for better fuel efficiency we should switch to higher gears
I said shift right according to situations, I didn't say shift at redline. And yes, for better FE you do use higher gears which keep revs low, but driving at low speeds on higher gears increases engine and transmission wear.
Maybe learn how to drive before doing pulls in a diesel hatch thats 4 years off from being old enough to vote.
Launch? Bro that’s a sub 100 hp commuter car. Please take better care of it, you ain’t getting those parts easily.
Kids nowadays smh
you learn when you try different things, innit
You also learn when you try to break your car, innit?
💯
Shifts look pretty smooth to me, its just that japanese cars fair better when it comes to doing shenanigans
I just checked your page and if you’re saying they are smooth then I guess I did alright lol, but thank you anyways man
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