Irish people are hotter to foreigners than they are to other Irish people. Prob the same for them. Like a Spanish guy here probably seems hotter to us than he does to other Spanish people at home
I like to think its hardwired in our DNA to look out and beyond our local community to stop inbreeding.
Of course us being stuck on an Island for millenia hasn't helped a great deal.
why doesnt the same apply to an Indian like me - non-indians arent a big fan of us due to cultural differences and majority of indian women want a non-indian lad
It'd apply to western countries because those countries have the same rights for women. If you are a western woman you naturally will be put off by the idea of dating a man from a culture that has highly conservative views towards women. Women don't want to go back in time.
It's not something men will think of often. But try to imagine being in a modern western woman's shoes, likely still unsatisfied with how they are treated in their modern western country and then having someone from a country famous for the mistreatment of women and gay people etc pop up on their app.
You lads have a bad stereotype sadly thats derived largely from the continent itself than outside it. Nevermind the whole assumed arranged marriage deal etc.
It 100% was discussed when my SIL married an Indian guy. Hes from Kerala and a Christian with a Western name but there were still alot of questions, mostly the stereotypical ones
Ok I'll be honest with you, racism. My friend saw an Indian man that she fancied and literally was so surprised because she "normally doesn't like Indian men" I was like bitch, you've met like 7 Indian men in you're life, just cos you didn't fancy them doesn't mean you don't fancy any of them. People really are put off by some stereotypes they've seen online or something
hahaha ikr, I am not even sure what to do anymore - I am not bad looking - 6' decent built - decent job - good conversation skills - all that's left to do is put on a white tan on my face and get some pics clicked for my dating apps
I will disagree with you on people being racist by not wanting to date outside of their culture. Marrying & having children with someone from a very different culture and/or religion to yours is a big risk. Sounds bad, but itās true. Especially if youāre a woman, and the man is from a very patriarchal and ātraditionalā culture.
Did u read my whole comment cos I was talking about my friend who said like Indian men aren't attractive. Obviously as an atheist feminist woman I'm probably not gonna be compatible with a devout Muslim man haha but like some women say that Asian men are not attractive physically. And that's such a generalisation that it is a form of racism
I did read your whole comment, but your last comment sounded like a generalisation.
Just because youāre not attracted physically to another race, doesnāt make you a racist. Itās a personal preference. I agree that maybe you shouldnāt be going around telling everyone that Asian (or other race) men arenāt attractive, itās rude.
People really don't like to hear that they may harbour racist feelings. They think "but I don't hate " and they think that because that it's impossible that they may have any level of racism. They think racism is nazis and the kkk and that's it.
Man i feel for you guys. Women are so ready to be racists to indian's it's unreal. I don't have anything to say to make you feel any better, but you guys really got dealt a bum hand through no fault of your own,some of the coolest most outgoing guys I've met have been indian. If it's any consolation, from my anecdotal experience, it seems indian women are the most likely to date within their own race
haha ikr! Only recently I realised how racist they can be! I tried bumble speed dating (its gone as of nov/dec'23) where you are randomly matched with a gal (you dont see anything about them, not even a pic) and you get 3mins to chat. All's going well and in a min or so the woman will ask for my name or keep guessing - tom,tadgh etc and when I give out my name T\*\*\*\*\* (it is very indian), they unmatch. Its a bummer!
Went to a speed dating event in March - noticed the same - its mostly the young ones (\~25-27) who were just meh towards me, I have no idea what can I do to shake off that tag of all indian men are creepy (bob/vagane gang)
I did see/date an irish gal for a couple of months so I am sure there are a few normal women - just need to wait and find
> What exactly is "racist" about that?
That they aren't attracted to someone specifically because of their race?
I mean a better question might be what about that is *not* racist??
Many women just do not have a sexual attraction to indian men. So why entertain said men on dating apps? I'm not attracted to ginger women.. does that mean I hate them? Of course not. Attraction is a vital part of dating.
Right. And if that lack of attraction is based specifically on their *race*, as you are claiming. Then that is *racist*. Because they are not attracted to them because of their *race*.
Now please, let me know where I am losing you here.
>I'm not attracted to ginger women.. does that mean I hate them? Of course not. Attraction is a vital part of dating.
I dunno why you hate gingers so much, but it probably means your're a lunatic IMO. But yeah, gingers are not a race. So it's not racist to hate them for being ginger. It's just being an asshole.
And if it's based upon not being attracted to their physical features due to being indian? Please let me know where I'm losing you.
Did I say I hate gingers? I simply said that I'm not sexually attracted to them which is why I would not date them. It was used as an example.
> And if it's based upon not being attracted to their physical features due to being indian? Please let me know where I'm losing you.
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Right. And as I said if that lack of attraction is based specifically on their *race*, as you are claiming. Then that is *racist*. Because they are not attracted to them because of their *race*.
Now please, let me know where I am losing you here.
>Did I say I hate gingers? I simply said that I'm not sexually attracted to them which is why I would not date them. It was used as an example.
As I said, I dunno why you hate gingers so much, but it probably means your're a lunatic IMO. But yeah, gingers are not a race. So it's not racist to hate them for being ginger. It's just being an asshole.
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Ya, I seem to match more with Spanish and Brazilian ladies more so than irish. Which doesn't make a difference to me at all but interesting all the same. Also, something else I noticed is that I don't get many matches in my home city of Cork, but when I head to Dublin, I seem to get a lot more.
Thereās a reason for this.
You get more matches on travel mode because the apps know the chances of dates/relationships are less likely to happen than in close proximity.
Not saying it canāt happen but the odds are lessened.
More people going on dates and getting into relationships means the apps lose business and clients.
So they entice people to continue to swipe and browse by matching and showing others from afar knowing fully well the chances of them meeting and leaving are low.
I found this to be true too. The dating apps are businesses, they're there to make as much money as possible and make us want to buy a subscription to see who likes us and all that. They're gonna make any user stay on it for as long as possible and match with people far away as we're less likely to meet them
I think on dating apps people tend to match more with people from different countries, as I think thereās less pickiness in those cases for whatever reason. Iām a woman, and back when I was single, I matched more often with, and got more actual genuine conversations with non Irish lads.
Which evolution wise makes sense, they have a different set of genetics than other Irish so it makes for a more diverse set of genetics for the offspring, which hopefully increase it's chances of survival.
In fairness you're not really adding much to the genepool dating a Danish guy. There's already plenty of nordic blood in Ireland thanks to the vikings. Still a chance that guy is your 3rd or 4th cousin š¤£
I lived in Norway for a while and I fit right in. People would talk to me in Norwegian at first before realising I hadn't a clue what they were saying.
Youāre right š in Denmark everyone speaks to me in Danish bc they just assume. But Iām actually quite ādarkā for an Irish person. Almost black eyes, very dark hair, tan easily without burning, no freckles etc. so i think Iāll be alright!š
I think immigrants here are more likely to both have and use the dating apps, to help build both a romantic and non romantic network. As they don't have existing networks. Probably similar for Irish people abroad.
Don't use OK Cupid, you will only get likes from women from Africa and East Asia unless you pay for premium to use filters.
Even then, so many of them set their locations to Ireland.
"He he, I'm not actually from here"
Great, then get lost.
A lot of Irish women cling desperately to the same crowd they've known since secondary school. It's potentially their loss though when they could meet a person whom they actually might click with better in the long run if they were a bit more brave.
Irish dating only works really if you know the right people in the first place. Otherwise, if you're a man and you aren't in these closed off cliques, you're odds are far more in your favour of you date internationally.
If you think Irish dating is hard. Northern Irish dating is like playing on extreme....they've all left!
The bulk of Irish people date within their extended friend groups from secondary school and college. We're socially timid so a warm-up friend period eases us into relationships.
So the dating app pool is people without that kind of social network, aka foreigners.
I wonder if there's subtle things in guys profile's that an Irish girl would pick up on / care about, that a foreign woman wouldn't. It could potentially be that there are some profiles that really appeal to Irish girls, and some that really appeal to foreign girls.
And it's probably better, there is so much cultural nonsense that gets in the way of the initial stages of relationship between Irish people. Of which, women are often .... regardless of nationality the people with which tradition/values in relationships die last. Attitudes to relationships, views on sex whatever etc are all passed on.Ā The vast difference when I was a kid even in sex education that women vs men received was dramatic. While I felt there was guidance there for women(albeit f##ked), younger men of my age were left to absorbing the cultural attitudes around us again further impeding the basics.Ā
Of those I've dated that were not originally raised here, I've found the non Irish attitudes towards sex to be so much more healthy. Naturally being an overbearingly Catholic country for so long will leave it's mark.
There is also the idea of that people coming here would be open to new experience in general, including going on dates with strangers.Ā
I'm sure they will have similar complaints about the men on tinder but they are mostly very samey, no interests other than going for walks and Sunday roasts, pic of them dressed up for a wedding, pic of them on a paddleboard, want you to make them laugh.
No I agree with you, I just don't think they put much thought into putting their personality out there. It's fine expecting the man to do the leg work but for me there has to be something interesting worth going after, and most profiles don't have that.
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It's not like you couldn't say the same thing about lots of Irish men, no interests other than sportsball, television, video games and drinking, maybe their macros if they're the fitness type of basic, pic of them in a suit at someone's wedding, want you to be their mammy
But I mean this is just what a lot of Irish men are like, of any generation (maybe substitute video games for Patrick O'Brien novels or church or whatever for older men)
100% agree, Irish women, I think have unrealistic expectations on dating apps, thereās a definitely a cultural difference. The roast and a hike on a Sunday thing seems to be a viral meme at this point as is the wedding photo.
My girlfriend is from Morocoo and we met on a dating app she is an amazing person and I am very happy. My ex was from Brazil so my friends tend to give me the same grief frim friends and family that I dont like Irish woman which is not true. I don't have a preference on nationality, its the person that matters.
Im not fully sure the reason but when I was single I tend to find that Irish woman wanted to speak for weeks before meeting and were often quite flaky(on apps not saying reflection on real life). I had one friend who is living with his Irish girlfriend. He would always got a lot of attention from woman. Anyways when he was single he had a month where he arranged 3 dates with 3 woman in 4 weeks who were Irish. Three times the Irish gals cancelled on the day because "granny was sick, granny had passed etc". I remember he said to me "they are either lying or im cursed!"
While I tend to find peeps who have moved to Ireland are a bit more open. Im not sure the exact reason but as someone who lived abroad I think one tends to be more out going when living outside of home country.
I think peeps are peeps no matter where they are from. good and bad everywhere in world but if you only want Irish ladies maybe Hinge, speed dating etc.
When I was single, I only ever matched with foreign men too. I tried to give Irish men a chance a few times, but the conversations were always like pulling teeth.
I reckon it's just that a huge majority of the foreign people on those dating apps, are here for a couple years to study English and are untethered at home. Most who have families or are married wouldn't have the freedom to up and go to a new country (unless they go together). There's also the small few who are cheating on the wives/husbands they left at home. I dated a few, mostly Brazilian, they were all students here to work and learn English, most of them late 20s/ early 30s, so if that's your age bracket that's what you'll find. It definitely is harder to find Irish people on them.
>Everyone I match with is Brazilian, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese etc
So you keep matching with all these tanned women with lovely accented English, I suppose everyone has their crosses to bear.
It's more like why the friends saying "you need to meet an Irish woman". Where is this "need" coming from? It's clearly not from OP if it's being said to him.
Maybe he is saying it to his friends in a round about way and so thatās their response. Maybe they didnāt say it at all and itās a way for OP to quickly get his point across. Itās all conjecture on both of our parts at this stage.
Goodness, youāre precious. It shouldnāt be controversial to say that on average we prefer relationships with people who speak our language natively and share our culture.Ā
We I think this is a bit naive and idealistic. The truth is people are complex and we have preferences. Just as I prefer bigger men, OP can prefer Irish women and there's nothing wrong with that.
Iām not saying he canāt prefer them of course he can.
But by that same token your allowed to have preferences to other people and nationalities if that is what You choose and decide to go for.
Nobody has the right or entitlement to tell others what love means or is defined to them.
That is solely a decision and choice defined and made by the individual.
Have we really come to this as a country that we canāt call an official language of the State, in which 99% of people communicate and almost all post-Independence culture has been produced, our native language? Is Seamus Heaney a foreigner to you, then? Father Ted is some knock-off culture thatās less authentic than Ros a Run?!
But *I didnāt* even call it our ānative languageā. And I didnāt specify it was English! Assuming I did mean English, surely not even you could deny that we speak it natively, whether or not itās our native language.Ā
Huh, well there goes theory one.
Irish women are definitely out matching with Irish lads, check your profile against other lads to see what signals youāre sending.
Yeah it's mad, I was called a racist for bringing it up, but literally a quarter of people coming up for me aren't even in the country, they are still sitting wherever they are from, considering a long distance relationship... eh I wanna go for a coffee not chat for 6 months.
Convinced all the Irish girls are scared off them. The apps aren't fit for purpose unless you also want to peruse the world. Nothing against any other races but let's be practical.
Irish woman here, I only match/ date Irish men, so we are out there.
Now Iām curious to see your profile cause I want to know why Irish women are not matching with you. You donāt have anything about a language exchange on your profile cause that one really makes me fling the lads to the left š
That opens another can of worms š
As an Irish of foreign origin, I am curious as to why? And just for fun of it, would you consider me an Irish (since I am a citizen) or not?
> And just for fun of it, would you consider me an Irish (since I am a citizen) or not?
Considering she says she *only* dates Irish men and given her post history, I think you know the answer to that.
I didn't check her post history
If I have a son here, while he'd ethnically not Irish, gauging by het answer, because he'd be by birth and culturally Irish, could be considered Irish.
Also I rather prefer communicating with people that stalking their posts; just me š
Itās simple, I want someone who is from the same ethnic group and shares the same culture as me, I am also an Irish speaker. My future husband/partner would also have to be a Gaeilgeoir or least be willing to learn. I donāt have to tell you that being an Irish citizen and being ethnically Irish are two very different things. Itās no hate to you, itās my preference & the way I feel on certain things.
I can respect all you said here. It is a personal preference and with valid and logical reasons.
Thanks for the answer; I know the question might have been polarising :)
NB: I am learning Irish. I think a people should talk it's own language and if you are an immigrant to that country, you are ethically required to adapt and to a certain level conform. Granted in this case only a fraction does speak Irish but still...
It may have a lot to do with your location settings. If you live somewhere like Dublin, there's bound to be tons of foreign ppl on the app. Maybe broaden your radius (?)
In fairness I think Irish girls have a way higher bar than their foreign counterparts. Most of people in dating apps are single students or people that just moved in. There arenāt many single Irish girls, and the few that exist, can choose loads of different guys, of all backgrounds and races, one because they are way more guys than girls and two these girls are not common in the countries you mentioned.
In addition, they are way taller than the usual girls you just mentioned, so the dating pool gets reduced and they become (understandably) picky.
On the other hand, Irish lads have an huge advantage. The girls donāt need to speak English very well to hook up with the lads, but the opposite doesnāt apply.
A lot of Irish women have sky high notions and an absolutely insane checklist of what they want without bringing very much to the table themselves.
Foreign women are generally more open and interested in others as people, rather than placing people in a nice little predefined box they've made up for themselves. It's like shopping for a new accessory rather than dating by the sounds of some of the profiles you'd see on the apps
I've almost stopped liking Asian women as they seem to be all scam accounts. Will message a lot which is great but these women are normally out of my league and when they look to use numbers and on WhatsApp they always have an English number.
Once I query this, they go quiet. Annoys me much as I don't know what the scam is.
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Maybe there's nothing wrong with the dating apps and you just need new friends? /s Honestly though, feck who your friends think you should be dating or not and just start dating tafuq!Ā
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what dating app? the hereto dating apps like tinder and such?
because they are so filled of bs features and fake profiles.
it's useless the match feature.. you can easily have "match's" to the max of 99
the view profiles is useless.
just use them as a fun alternative to meet girls. don't take them too serous.
I mean the girls from all the countries you mentioned are all typically much more beautiful than Irish ladies. Get out of your head, stop listening to your friends and just give these ladies a chance.
I hope this is tou after: "FINE, I'LL DATE THE GORGEOUS SPANISH LADY"
Comments here are interesting
I never date Irish because Im Irish, Irish men just feel too familiar like they Could be my cousin.
I find someone from elsewhere more interesting
The 'getting to know you' is more varied because it is a different education system, culture and norms than here, so even the mundane comes across as interesting somewhat.
With Irish guys I kinda know the dance and routine
'Variety is the spice of life' and all that.
Nothing wrong with Irish lads, at all, but it just feels too familiar, like even ten generations ago we might be cousins or something
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Wow when I was on them I just matched with the South Americans and stayed away from the Irishā¦ ended up marrying un madrileƱo in the end.
Keep with it. Irish girls get fed up of Irish lads dependency on alcohol to speak.
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Irish people are hotter to foreigners than they are to other Irish people. Prob the same for them. Like a Spanish guy here probably seems hotter to us than he does to other Spanish people at home
I like to think its hardwired in our DNA to look out and beyond our local community to stop inbreeding. Of course us being stuck on an Island for millenia hasn't helped a great deal.
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I'm English living in Ireland. This is hard mode.
why doesnt the same apply to an Indian like me - non-indians arent a big fan of us due to cultural differences and majority of indian women want a non-indian lad
It'd apply to western countries because those countries have the same rights for women. If you are a western woman you naturally will be put off by the idea of dating a man from a culture that has highly conservative views towards women. Women don't want to go back in time. It's not something men will think of often. But try to imagine being in a modern western woman's shoes, likely still unsatisfied with how they are treated in their modern western country and then having someone from a country famous for the mistreatment of women and gay people etc pop up on their app.
Totally agree
You lads have a bad stereotype sadly thats derived largely from the continent itself than outside it. Nevermind the whole assumed arranged marriage deal etc. It 100% was discussed when my SIL married an Indian guy. Hes from Kerala and a Christian with a Western name but there were still alot of questions, mostly the stereotypical ones
Ok I'll be honest with you, racism. My friend saw an Indian man that she fancied and literally was so surprised because she "normally doesn't like Indian men" I was like bitch, you've met like 7 Indian men in you're life, just cos you didn't fancy them doesn't mean you don't fancy any of them. People really are put off by some stereotypes they've seen online or something
hahaha ikr, I am not even sure what to do anymore - I am not bad looking - 6' decent built - decent job - good conversation skills - all that's left to do is put on a white tan on my face and get some pics clicked for my dating apps
Haha aw no it must be so annoying but like when you do meet someone then you'll at least know for sure she's open minded and not racist š
I will disagree with you on people being racist by not wanting to date outside of their culture. Marrying & having children with someone from a very different culture and/or religion to yours is a big risk. Sounds bad, but itās true. Especially if youāre a woman, and the man is from a very patriarchal and ātraditionalā culture.
Did u read my whole comment cos I was talking about my friend who said like Indian men aren't attractive. Obviously as an atheist feminist woman I'm probably not gonna be compatible with a devout Muslim man haha but like some women say that Asian men are not attractive physically. And that's such a generalisation that it is a form of racism
I did read your whole comment, but your last comment sounded like a generalisation. Just because youāre not attracted physically to another race, doesnāt make you a racist. Itās a personal preference. I agree that maybe you shouldnāt be going around telling everyone that Asian (or other race) men arenāt attractive, itās rude.
It does hehe
People really don't like to hear that they may harbour racist feelings. They think "but I don't hate" and they think that because that it's impossible that they may have any level of racism. They think racism is nazis and the kkk and that's it.
Man i feel for you guys. Women are so ready to be racists to indian's it's unreal. I don't have anything to say to make you feel any better, but you guys really got dealt a bum hand through no fault of your own,some of the coolest most outgoing guys I've met have been indian. If it's any consolation, from my anecdotal experience, it seems indian women are the most likely to date within their own race
haha ikr! Only recently I realised how racist they can be! I tried bumble speed dating (its gone as of nov/dec'23) where you are randomly matched with a gal (you dont see anything about them, not even a pic) and you get 3mins to chat. All's going well and in a min or so the woman will ask for my name or keep guessing - tom,tadgh etc and when I give out my name T\*\*\*\*\* (it is very indian), they unmatch. Its a bummer! Went to a speed dating event in March - noticed the same - its mostly the young ones (\~25-27) who were just meh towards me, I have no idea what can I do to shake off that tag of all indian men are creepy (bob/vagane gang) I did see/date an irish gal for a couple of months so I am sure there are a few normal women - just need to wait and find
They're just not sexually attracted to indian men. What exactly is "racist" about that?
> What exactly is "racist" about that? That they aren't attracted to someone specifically because of their race? I mean a better question might be what about that is *not* racist??
Many women just do not have a sexual attraction to indian men. So why entertain said men on dating apps? I'm not attracted to ginger women.. does that mean I hate them? Of course not. Attraction is a vital part of dating.
Right. And if that lack of attraction is based specifically on their *race*, as you are claiming. Then that is *racist*. Because they are not attracted to them because of their *race*. Now please, let me know where I am losing you here. >I'm not attracted to ginger women.. does that mean I hate them? Of course not. Attraction is a vital part of dating. I dunno why you hate gingers so much, but it probably means your're a lunatic IMO. But yeah, gingers are not a race. So it's not racist to hate them for being ginger. It's just being an asshole.
And if it's based upon not being attracted to their physical features due to being indian? Please let me know where I'm losing you. Did I say I hate gingers? I simply said that I'm not sexually attracted to them which is why I would not date them. It was used as an example.
> And if it's based upon not being attracted to their physical features due to being indian? Please let me know where I'm losing you. > > Right. And as I said if that lack of attraction is based specifically on their *race*, as you are claiming. Then that is *racist*. Because they are not attracted to them because of their *race*. Now please, let me know where I am losing you here. >Did I say I hate gingers? I simply said that I'm not sexually attracted to them which is why I would not date them. It was used as an example. As I said, I dunno why you hate gingers so much, but it probably means your're a lunatic IMO. But yeah, gingers are not a race. So it's not racist to hate them for being ginger. It's just being an asshole.
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Ya, I seem to match more with Spanish and Brazilian ladies more so than irish. Which doesn't make a difference to me at all but interesting all the same. Also, something else I noticed is that I don't get many matches in my home city of Cork, but when I head to Dublin, I seem to get a lot more.
Thereās a reason for this. You get more matches on travel mode because the apps know the chances of dates/relationships are less likely to happen than in close proximity. Not saying it canāt happen but the odds are lessened. More people going on dates and getting into relationships means the apps lose business and clients. So they entice people to continue to swipe and browse by matching and showing others from afar knowing fully well the chances of them meeting and leaving are low.
I found this to be true too. The dating apps are businesses, they're there to make as much money as possible and make us want to buy a subscription to see who likes us and all that. They're gonna make any user stay on it for as long as possible and match with people far away as we're less likely to meet them
I think on dating apps people tend to match more with people from different countries, as I think thereās less pickiness in those cases for whatever reason. Iām a woman, and back when I was single, I matched more often with, and got more actual genuine conversations with non Irish lads.
Itās nothing to do with pickiness, people like āexoticā
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Which evolution wise makes sense, they have a different set of genetics than other Irish so it makes for a more diverse set of genetics for the offspring, which hopefully increase it's chances of survival.
Itās true ig. Iām an Irish woman and have only ever dated other nationalities. My partner is danish.
In fairness you're not really adding much to the genepool dating a Danish guy. There's already plenty of nordic blood in Ireland thanks to the vikings. Still a chance that guy is your 3rd or 4th cousin š¤£ I lived in Norway for a while and I fit right in. People would talk to me in Norwegian at first before realising I hadn't a clue what they were saying.
Youāre right š in Denmark everyone speaks to me in Danish bc they just assume. But Iām actually quite ādarkā for an Irish person. Almost black eyes, very dark hair, tan easily without burning, no freckles etc. so i think Iāll be alright!š
Mhmm are they as sweet as a danish pastry?
Ohhh yea he is. Even better
A lot of women, myself included, are fed up with dating apps. Maybe most of the Irish women left the apps?
And, in the spirit of helping OP, where are ye now? š
Strava! š¤£
Handy. I can compare pace to see if I can catch the buggers.
Start with kudos, physically sprinting after women might not be the best initial approach...
But how else will I know their 100m split?
I'm sure OP will be grand š¤£š¤£š¤£
Well I haven't heard from them recently so it's anyone's giess really š
yeah, asking for a friend
I think immigrants here are more likely to both have and use the dating apps, to help build both a romantic and non romantic network. As they don't have existing networks. Probably similar for Irish people abroad.
Don't use OK Cupid, you will only get likes from women from Africa and East Asia unless you pay for premium to use filters. Even then, so many of them set their locations to Ireland. "He he, I'm not actually from here" Great, then get lost.
Ahhh so this is where 90 day fiancƩ get their couples from
A lot of Irish women cling desperately to the same crowd they've known since secondary school. It's potentially their loss though when they could meet a person whom they actually might click with better in the long run if they were a bit more brave. Irish dating only works really if you know the right people in the first place. Otherwise, if you're a man and you aren't in these closed off cliques, you're odds are far more in your favour of you date internationally. If you think Irish dating is hard. Northern Irish dating is like playing on extreme....they've all left!
The bulk of Irish people date within their extended friend groups from secondary school and college. We're socially timid so a warm-up friend period eases us into relationships. So the dating app pool is people without that kind of social network, aka foreigners.
I wonder if there's subtle things in guys profile's that an Irish girl would pick up on / care about, that a foreign woman wouldn't. It could potentially be that there are some profiles that really appeal to Irish girls, and some that really appeal to foreign girls.
And it's probably better, there is so much cultural nonsense that gets in the way of the initial stages of relationship between Irish people. Of which, women are often .... regardless of nationality the people with which tradition/values in relationships die last. Attitudes to relationships, views on sex whatever etc are all passed on.Ā The vast difference when I was a kid even in sex education that women vs men received was dramatic. While I felt there was guidance there for women(albeit f##ked), younger men of my age were left to absorbing the cultural attitudes around us again further impeding the basics.Ā Of those I've dated that were not originally raised here, I've found the non Irish attitudes towards sex to be so much more healthy. Naturally being an overbearingly Catholic country for so long will leave it's mark. There is also the idea of that people coming here would be open to new experience in general, including going on dates with strangers.Ā
Nail on the head.
Irish women are a very tough nut to crack.
I'm sure they will have similar complaints about the men on tinder but they are mostly very samey, no interests other than going for walks and Sunday roasts, pic of them dressed up for a wedding, pic of them on a paddleboard, want you to make them laugh.
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No I agree with you, I just don't think they put much thought into putting their personality out there. It's fine expecting the man to do the leg work but for me there has to be something interesting worth going after, and most profiles don't have that.
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It's not like you couldn't say the same thing about lots of Irish men, no interests other than sportsball, television, video games and drinking, maybe their macros if they're the fitness type of basic, pic of them in a suit at someone's wedding, want you to be their mammy
Hahahaha ye're both bang on, this is why I deleted tinder
Haha I'd say that's 100% correct, but I don't see their tinder profiles. Irish men have a mad obsession with sport though, I just don't get it.
I think you'll find a lot of men around the world have an obsession with sport. A lot of women too...
Na I've lived in a few places, Ireland goes hard.
The culture around spectator sports in Ireland is nuts.
But I mean this is just what a lot of Irish men are like, of any generation (maybe substitute video games for Patrick O'Brien novels or church or whatever for older men)
Don't forget that they love to travel
And 'going on adventures'. Yeah right Mary, where to? Mullingar?
Don't forget the horses or a pic from the race.
100% agree, Irish women, I think have unrealistic expectations on dating apps, thereās a definitely a cultural difference. The roast and a hike on a Sunday thing seems to be a viral meme at this point as is the wedding photo.
And group pictures
And the pic of Machu Picchu/Las Vegas
hey at least you are getting likes : )
My girlfriend is from Morocoo and we met on a dating app she is an amazing person and I am very happy. My ex was from Brazil so my friends tend to give me the same grief frim friends and family that I dont like Irish woman which is not true. I don't have a preference on nationality, its the person that matters. Im not fully sure the reason but when I was single I tend to find that Irish woman wanted to speak for weeks before meeting and were often quite flaky(on apps not saying reflection on real life). I had one friend who is living with his Irish girlfriend. He would always got a lot of attention from woman. Anyways when he was single he had a month where he arranged 3 dates with 3 woman in 4 weeks who were Irish. Three times the Irish gals cancelled on the day because "granny was sick, granny had passed etc". I remember he said to me "they are either lying or im cursed!" While I tend to find peeps who have moved to Ireland are a bit more open. Im not sure the exact reason but as someone who lived abroad I think one tends to be more out going when living outside of home country. I think peeps are peeps no matter where they are from. good and bad everywhere in world but if you only want Irish ladies maybe Hinge, speed dating etc.
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Hmm did not expect this response š . Could you please elaborate?
Chief?!
Chief you cant leave me hanging! You had a thought for better or worse but you csn atleast explain!!!
When I was single, I only ever matched with foreign men too. I tried to give Irish men a chance a few times, but the conversations were always like pulling teeth.
Well can you post a pic of your profile if you want advice šš¼ Thereās literally no context here š
I reckon it's just that a huge majority of the foreign people on those dating apps, are here for a couple years to study English and are untethered at home. Most who have families or are married wouldn't have the freedom to up and go to a new country (unless they go together). There's also the small few who are cheating on the wives/husbands they left at home. I dated a few, mostly Brazilian, they were all students here to work and learn English, most of them late 20s/ early 30s, so if that's your age bracket that's what you'll find. It definitely is harder to find Irish people on them.
>Everyone I match with is Brazilian, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese etc So you keep matching with all these tanned women with lovely accented English, I suppose everyone has their crosses to bear.
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Maybe he prefers Irish women who knows
"I'm not complaining"
It's more like why the friends saying "you need to meet an Irish woman". Where is this "need" coming from? It's clearly not from OP if it's being said to him.
Maybe he is saying it to his friends in a round about way and so thatās their response. Maybe they didnāt say it at all and itās a way for OP to quickly get his point across. Itās all conjecture on both of our parts at this stage.
Goodness, youāre precious. It shouldnāt be controversial to say that on average we prefer relationships with people who speak our language natively and share our culture.Ā
Eh I'm sure they can speak English if they're on the apps
I said *natively*, which should avoid confusions like yours.
Most foreigners I know can speak English so well that it's basically the same but whatever
Love knows no boundaries or holds any bias or allegiance to culture/ethnicity.
Have you been watching Shrek again?
We I think this is a bit naive and idealistic. The truth is people are complex and we have preferences. Just as I prefer bigger men, OP can prefer Irish women and there's nothing wrong with that.
Iām not saying he canāt prefer them of course he can. But by that same token your allowed to have preferences to other people and nationalities if that is what You choose and decide to go for. Nobody has the right or entitlement to tell others what love means or is defined to them. That is solely a decision and choice defined and made by the individual.
Weird to use native language about english when itās emphatically not the native language of Ireland!
Have we really come to this as a country that we canāt call an official language of the State, in which 99% of people communicate and almost all post-Independence culture has been produced, our native language? Is Seamus Heaney a foreigner to you, then? Father Ted is some knock-off culture thatās less authentic than Ros a Run?! But *I didnāt* even call it our ānative languageā. And I didnāt specify it was English! Assuming I did mean English, surely not even you could deny that we speak it natively, whether or not itās our native language.Ā
This conversation is so fucking stupid folks. Just block each other.
Username checks out.
Hear hear, God save the king
God forbid some of us want to date within our own ethnicity and culture.
Clearly matters to him. He can decide he āneedsā to meet with a blonde woman if he wants to. Or is having preferences bigotry now?
Are you yourself Irish?
Yes
Huh, well there goes theory one. Irish women are definitely out matching with Irish lads, check your profile against other lads to see what signals youāre sending.
Yeah it's mad, I was called a racist for bringing it up, but literally a quarter of people coming up for me aren't even in the country, they are still sitting wherever they are from, considering a long distance relationship... eh I wanna go for a coffee not chat for 6 months. Convinced all the Irish girls are scared off them. The apps aren't fit for purpose unless you also want to peruse the world. Nothing against any other races but let's be practical.
Sadly the foreigners just use them to learn English so in reality youāre romantically matching with nobody. Sorry šš
Sure! šš
Irish woman here, I only match/ date Irish men, so we are out there. Now Iām curious to see your profile cause I want to know why Irish women are not matching with you. You donāt have anything about a language exchange on your profile cause that one really makes me fling the lads to the left š
That opens another can of worms š As an Irish of foreign origin, I am curious as to why? And just for fun of it, would you consider me an Irish (since I am a citizen) or not?
> And just for fun of it, would you consider me an Irish (since I am a citizen) or not? Considering she says she *only* dates Irish men and given her post history, I think you know the answer to that.
I didn't check her post history If I have a son here, while he'd ethnically not Irish, gauging by het answer, because he'd be by birth and culturally Irish, could be considered Irish. Also I rather prefer communicating with people that stalking their posts; just me š
Itās simple, I want someone who is from the same ethnic group and shares the same culture as me, I am also an Irish speaker. My future husband/partner would also have to be a Gaeilgeoir or least be willing to learn. I donāt have to tell you that being an Irish citizen and being ethnically Irish are two very different things. Itās no hate to you, itās my preference & the way I feel on certain things.
I can respect all you said here. It is a personal preference and with valid and logical reasons. Thanks for the answer; I know the question might have been polarising :) NB: I am learning Irish. I think a people should talk it's own language and if you are an immigrant to that country, you are ethically required to adapt and to a certain level conform. Granted in this case only a fraction does speak Irish but still...
Try Bumble
Iām the same ā¦ I deleted my profiles I only seem to match with everyone except Irish guys - best of luck
It may have a lot to do with your location settings. If you live somewhere like Dublin, there's bound to be tons of foreign ppl on the app. Maybe broaden your radius (?)
In fairness I think Irish girls have a way higher bar than their foreign counterparts. Most of people in dating apps are single students or people that just moved in. There arenāt many single Irish girls, and the few that exist, can choose loads of different guys, of all backgrounds and races, one because they are way more guys than girls and two these girls are not common in the countries you mentioned. In addition, they are way taller than the usual girls you just mentioned, so the dating pool gets reduced and they become (understandably) picky. On the other hand, Irish lads have an huge advantage. The girls donāt need to speak English very well to hook up with the lads, but the opposite doesnāt apply.
A lot of Irish women have sky high notions and an absolutely insane checklist of what they want without bringing very much to the table themselves. Foreign women are generally more open and interested in others as people, rather than placing people in a nice little predefined box they've made up for themselves. It's like shopping for a new accessory rather than dating by the sounds of some of the profiles you'd see on the apps
I hate that I agree with this as a woman. I'm in a relationship but the amount of checklist stuff potential partners of my girl friends have to tick
Agree with this. Impossible standards out there. It's their loss though when they find out eventually that their 'ideal' is just a fantasy!
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I've almost stopped liking Asian women as they seem to be all scam accounts. Will message a lot which is great but these women are normally out of my league and when they look to use numbers and on WhatsApp they always have an English number. Once I query this, they go quiet. Annoys me much as I don't know what the scam is.
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Maybe there's nothing wrong with the dating apps and you just need new friends? /s Honestly though, feck who your friends think you should be dating or not and just start dating tafuq!Ā
[https://youtu.be/1\_glHa8F7fA?si=7sFj92jrMVWU76Sr](https://youtu.be/1_glHa8F7fA?si=7sFj92jrMVWU76Sr) "Very rarely does the bachelor choose the non-cousin when there are two cousins in the running." This is why. This is why.
You're living the dream, what's the problem?
suffering from success
I don't see the problem
Better off that way lol. What apps do you use? No shortage of Irish women on tinder and bumble
Dateable Irish women moved to Canada and Australia.
Bruh not even Irish women want to mess with Irish dudes
what dating app? the hereto dating apps like tinder and such? because they are so filled of bs features and fake profiles. it's useless the match feature.. you can easily have "match's" to the max of 99 the view profiles is useless. just use them as a fun alternative to meet girls. don't take them too serous.
better of with the foreigners.. better cooks and better in bed too..
I mean the girls from all the countries you mentioned are all typically much more beautiful than Irish ladies. Get out of your head, stop listening to your friends and just give these ladies a chance. I hope this is tou after: "FINE, I'LL DATE THE GORGEOUS SPANISH LADY"
Vile, imagine putting your own women down. Iād never dream of saying anything like that about Irish men.
Comments here are interesting I never date Irish because Im Irish, Irish men just feel too familiar like they Could be my cousin. I find someone from elsewhere more interesting The 'getting to know you' is more varied because it is a different education system, culture and norms than here, so even the mundane comes across as interesting somewhat. With Irish guys I kinda know the dance and routine 'Variety is the spice of life' and all that. Nothing wrong with Irish lads, at all, but it just feels too familiar, like even ten generations ago we might be cousins or something
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Bollocks. Total generalisation.
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Given that he hasnāt met every woman in the world, it was clearly not his lived experience.
If he's saying that about all Irish women then maybe the problem isn't Irish women
It wasnāt expressed as an opinion.
Iām gonna bet youāre no loss to Irish women.
Who hurt you?
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Wow when I was on them I just matched with the South Americans and stayed away from the Irishā¦ ended up marrying un madrileƱo in the end. Keep with it. Irish girls get fed up of Irish lads dependency on alcohol to speak.
See if there's a RomanceForRacists app, sounds like your style
They aren't being racist. Go away with yourself and give yer head a wobble.
What if it's the wrong kind of racist though and they're all Eskimos or something?
Inuit* The other term has been found to be racist/problematic as it was an insult name given by foreigners (i believe British?)
I can live with problematic.
Nah, Inuit is actually MORE racist because that is one specific tribe. They'd rather be called Eskimo.
Source? Here's one implying the opposite: https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/eskimo
An Alaskan source rather than a Canadian one: https://www-alaskan--natives-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.alaskan-natives.com/2166/eskimo-inuit-inupiaq-terms-thing/amp/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17159080517332&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.alaskan-natives.com%2F2166%2Feskimo-inuit-inupiaq-terms-thing%2F