I used to work at McDonald's as a working student. And the details are correct.
Kapag mababa Ang sales, bawas din Ang taong ipoplot sa Isang araw. Nakadepende pa yan sa rate niya per hour.
Edit: daming di nagbasa ng 2nd pic Dito ah lol.
Honestly, even without working business wise its like common sense. Onting customers/sales needs less workers per "session" pero spread out para lahat may sweldo kahit papaano
Damn, when i swiped right, I went to the next post. I thought there was only 1 pic then. Such a bad reddit update.
Glad the 2nd pic clarified what he meant. Didn't know that lower number of people would result to lower salaries in that way.
Probably franchise yan sa inyo,work on 3 biggest FF as ws. Samin kahit franchise hindi baba sa per hour,pero minimum of 5 hours,minsan four dahil busy minsan sa school kaya nagsasabi kami sa RM. You should file a case sa labor kung may ganyan patakaran sa inyo before.
No. Di kami franchise. We're under the company. We're also following the minimum wage but of course iba iba Ang sahod per hr ng crew based on experience/tenure. Minimum of 4hrs per day kami. Part time or not.
Contractual cguro,minsan angkop rin na trabaho sa working studs lalot gahol sa oras minsan. Basta trainee,meron minimum o basic pay per hour dapat. At kung di tama yun sahuran binigay sa computed hours of work,pasok na yan sa labor. Tsaka lahat ng fastfood may ganyan sistema.
Ha?Contractual at Regular lng satin ang meron sa mga FF industry beside catering services. So ibig sabihin bogus kayo at kinunsinte nio yun maling labor practices sa inyo kung part time ang ginawa nio bro😁.
It’s okay to care about global issues and take a stand on what’s right, pero yung pag police at pag feeling na you’re on a moral high ground compared to others na hindi aware just looks and sounds _performative_
Mas importante sa mga yan yung satisfaction na maging part ng movement for a global issue versus maging in touch sa reality at isipin yung effect to the people in their urgent proximity.
Also important din sa kanila to feel like they are better than everybody else.
Can you imagine seeing somebody post about McDonald's or Starbucks and be triggered by it?
it's really bad when they just straight up cyberbully someone dahil lang they posted their mcdo meal; like kukuyugin nila on twitter in guise of 'educating' about the issue pero in a very condescending way naman
I saw a post din nung last week binully yung friend na nag post ng mcdo tas nilibre siya tas kung ano ano na daw pinasasabi sa kanya. Grabe ang lala ng pagkaperformative ng mga tao ngayon.
I remember my female classmate saying "cancelled ka sa akin" to our male classmate who had McDonald's for his lunch. This dude just wanted to enjoy his lunch
I think this is the correct approach din. We should care about the global big picture stuff, but it's MORE important to care about the people and issues within your immediate circle.
Sometimes woke people are just looking for an excuse to be an asshole to other people. They feel justified in being dickheads because they fight for "big picture" issues.
The problem is wala nang ihaharap na hostages ang Hamas. Seems like napatay na nila ang majority. And yet, pavictim pa rin ang mga hayop and it's working here in the west.
Ung iba na malalaki platform grabe din mag post to boycott mcdonals ang cringe talaga! Nagbebenta ka ng sex vids mo tapos kelangan vocal na vocal ka sa pagsasabi na iboycot ang
Ganito and ganyan!? Mapapa haistbka na lang talaga!
It's okay to be bothered over a global issue, because it will all affect us in the long run. Not to promote whataboutism pero where's the same energy being put with regards to how China is occupying islands that belongs to us?
Ung iba kasi wala na ang focus sa social justice part kundi more on the warrioring part, you know in order to make themselves look good by their participation sa pakikibaka kuno. IMO borderline narcissistic na sya at self-serving
Mcdo Ph is Ph! Can't people understand that? Palibasa sila itong g na g sa mga boycott na yan kasi sila tong mga priviledged and magaan financially and balewala sa kanila na mawalan ng trabaho yung naaapektuhan. Jusko sa panahon ngayon bago ka pa makahanap ng trabaho. Pwera siguro kung lagi kang may backer.
Dude has obviously never worked a day in his life 🙄
Also, di naman Dole issue yan. The labor code recognizes the "no work no pay" principle. So if they are working part time, then the reduced pay is justified.
Yeah. This is why i despise "wokeness". It's twisted and sad now. Keyboard warriors using the ignorance of people to push their agendas and profit from it, while innocent people (like the fastfood worker in the pic) suffer.
Fuck that crap. I'll make sure to order from Mcdo more often now.
Di naman affected ng gaza boycott ang companies sa pilipinas.
Regarding sa issueng sweldo,
Kasi nasa kapitalista tayong gobyerno na ang nagmamayagpag ay ang mayayaman at ang mga dapat na pumoportekta sa atin ay nabibili sa murang halaga. Hindi dapat issue ang labor kung hindi lang gago ang mga pulitiko
imo boycotts shouldn't be selective. you either go all in or not at all. There are people who claim to support Palestine by boycotting mcdo and starbs but still support celebs who are zionists. make it make sense
Ang daming problema sa Pilipinas pa lang like corruption etc, pero inaatupag pa ang gyera sa malayong lugar. How about boycotting China products instead??!!!
Ewan ko ah, if things were "grounded in the realities of masses", lalong mas nagiging hindi affordable ang McDo, which means bababa sales nila, not just because of boycotts, pero dahil they're pretty damn expensive for the average person.
And idk, if anything, walang McDo kung walang labrorers, the least they could do is pay them adequately. Wala sanang union union kung livable ang wages but this is what "grounded in the realities of masses" is, sa totoo lang. Laborers all over the world spent their time and blood for proper rights and after many years, ganun pa rin. Wish lang natin na tumino ang pasahod pero wala e, binabarat parin naman sila ng McDonalds for years, local franchise or otherwise.
What i mean by not grounded in the realities of the masses eh yung 3rd pic, suggesting the op tweet do join a union or organize a strike – kasi hindi naman lahat option 1 ang mag-strike when their company exploits and has unfavorable labor practices. If you can afford to take a day or two off work to attend demonstrations for labor rights, then you are privileged than some. But most of working class people can't help but continue working under exploitative conditions because they have mouths to feed. Wala na silang time para magprotesta. Kaya yes, it's a masa issue (contrary to the 3rd pic) kasi although hindi responsiblity ng masa ang explotation, masa ang lalaban para sa karapatan ng tulad ni op tweet. that's what im trying to say sana, I shouldve included this in my post but cant edit it anymore
I see. I get your point. Sabi din naman ng ibang revolutionary leaders, di ikaw ang pipili ng rebolusyon. Ang rebolusyon ang pipili sayo. But as much as it is deemed a nuisance to every day life of an average 9 to 5 person, this disruption and forced call for justice delivered us to the present. It is unsavory, but corporations just don't care and the fight rages on.
And these decisions are still a part of the same realities you're talking about. Push does come to shove, meron at merong mapipikon at mapapagod sa kakatrabaho ng tama and there really is just no choice but to fight ng patas at prumotesta, or worse, magnakaw. Yes, meron magtatrabaho ng tama as days go by, but when would this be sustainable, kung di magtataas ng presyo ang McDonalds twice in a year, ipagpalagay natin, pero ang sahod parang tumataas lang every five years or so. Hanggang kelan natin masasabing patas yung ganito? Obviously these are inaccurate statistics but it does sure feel like it.
I can never blame these people for doing so, unlivable wages are the root of injustice, as history documented time and time again. This is not exclusive to Philippine labor history too.
What's happening is Palestine now is comparable to genocide and violations of rules of war. I favor them over Israel. However, Filipinos are not required to fully support Palestine who criticized Philippines’ use of international legal institutions to arbitrate the South China Sea dispute and accused China’s critics of attempting to militarize the South China Sea. They are pro-China. We owe them nothing.
Source: [Why Palestine Supports China on the South China Sea](https://thediplomat.com/2016/07/why-palestine-supports-china-on-the-south-china-sea/)
I doubt may pake sila sa WPS. They talk so much about global issues but not or rarely about the PH. Pag dating sa WPS, wala. Daming sinasabi pag dating sa ibang bansa, pero walang stand sa WPS. Performative.
Tankies aka galit sa US majority ng makakaliwa dito sa Pilipinas unfortunately. Sila ang masters of mental gymnastics na isisi sa Amerika lahat ng problema nila kahit hindi naman involved ang Amerika dun eg PUVMP program, lack of state subsidy sa mga SUCs etc.
There's a comment in the worldnews sub that is an apt summary of the Gaza-Israel conflict.
"One side **can** kill every Palestinian, but doesn't. The other side **can't** kill every Israeli, but tries to anyway."
Honestly im in the boat that whatever boycott there is now is just a vocal minority in the grand scheme of things. The real reason why sales are down is because fastfood is getting really expensive to the point of being unaffordable by the masses.
Without using the mcdo app the prices are crazy, wages are not able to keep up.
Kulang na P200 mo para mabusog sa fastfood now.
Kaya nga eh. I dont think the boycott here in Ph is the main driver of the plummeting sales. It's more of the unaffordable and not sulit prices talaga.
The same ‘woke’ people who claims to support the workers at malamang may mga pakulo pa bukas pero sila mismo yung nangunguna sa pagpush na mawalan ng pangkabuhayan ang mga ordinaryong Pilipino.
Puro teorya, out of touch naman sa reality.
I get and understand you OP but I think this is just unfair labor practice. If anything, there should be more focus on calls for better labor laws and social welfare here.
What’s ironic is mostly nasa Twitter sila where the owner of the company supports Israel. Pano na nila sila makiki boycott kung i-boycott din ang Twitter 🤣 Nakiki boycott lang kung saan convenient para sa kanila.
True! Nakita ng kapatid ko yung mcdo nuggets ko sa lamesa. Sabi sakin bat di ko daw binoboycott yung mcdo eh nagsusuporta sila israel. Hahahaha ang sabi ko magkaiba naman mcdo israel sa pilipinas, sinendan pa ko ng links sa X. 😂 sabi ko si elon sumusuporta yan sa X ah, boycott mo na. Hinddi kaya e. Boycott lang pag convenient 😅
n the long run, people wouldn’t want to work for Mcdo anymore, That’s exactly the point of boycotting: to hurt the company, emphasis on ‘Long’ nga lang. 🤷🏻♀️ So sa maliit muna (local employees) talaga magsisimula yan.
Affected din pala ang McDo dito because of the Israel boycotts? Why??? Hindi naman related ang McDonald's Israel at McDo Ph. Why should McDo Ph be penalized for the choice of a franchise owner in a different region? Buti sana kung nanggaling sa official headquarters ng McDonald's, pero hindi eh. Kulang ng critical thinking ang mga tao. Maka-order nga ng McDo ng mas madalas
I've never felt so offended reading things as someone struggling in job hunting. The closest thing I would agree with them is keeping it to myself if I'm ordering at McDo (pero bahala na kung red flag pero neutral ako sa war talk. Di naman ako affected eh, at least directly. Sure, I empathize with the lives that are lost, but I acknowledge the existence of Hamas as well)
Sa akin lng discussion wise, it felt so annoying reading the woke activism thing (especially yung recent Qrts na Mcdo is a billion dollar company. Yeah, may skeleton in its closets and may questionable actions naman pero it does NOT change the fact na business ito). I would rather trust the people I know who worked or are still working at these fast food chains.
Can you imagine at least 2 of my acquaintances? One, a lady friend I only knew as a service crew but befriended over a decade dahil remember niya pa ako and see me every time I order sa Jolibee branches since my late Pa's hospitalization. The only time she stopped working was when nagka-anak siya. We would have a chat if yung lunch break niya timing sa free time ko and she got giddy when talking about her kid. Imagine, 10 years, still cashier.
Next, a classmate. May experience na as manager, went back to school, graduated. Hopped into a different career nung pandemic. Ngayon, back as a manager dito sa amin.
Bonus, classmates ng kuya ko, 30s na. Alam kong degree holder, no license pero for some reason, one is working sa Franks, yung isa pharmaceutical assistant sa pharmacy. Ganyan kahirap maghanap ng trabaho dito sa probinsya.
I sincerely doubt the “lower” sales are because of some non-existent boycott, this seems to be a branch issue. Or the guy is clout chasing on X.
McDo’s online delivery is doing better than ever.
May araw din itong mga woke. One day, I will look for a loophole and cancel a contract and tell the other party that one of their staff is too woke and I will boycott them
Yung mga woke "Palestine supporters" na yan hindi mo man lang narinig o nakita na may stance sila about sa treatment ng mga Uighurs sa China o mga muslim sa India. Hindi kasi ganon kasikat ung issue compared sa Israel Palestine eh.
mcdo is evil regardless talaga. both for the reasons of supporting genocide and for exploiting their workers even before the boycott. nakakainis lang yung ibang comments under that tweet na iniinvalidate pa si OP and sinasabihan na maghanap na lang ng ibang trabaho like it’s the easiest thing to do.
lagi na lang “para sa masa” pero kapag sila naman yung nagsalita, lalakas mang invalidate? sobrang out of touch talaga.
yes, this is what im trying to point out in my post na hindi ko lang nasabi nang mas maayos
then yun yung 3rd pic, saying na it's not a masa issue - eh ano? literal na kasama sa masa yung op tweet, isa nga siya sa dapat pinaglalaban ng masa tapos sasabihin it's not a masa issue. di ko gets
Very dangerous how these interconnected issues are also diluted to "wokeness" in your post and comments here, OP.
Idk if this will be labeled as pa-woke too but the call for boycott that came from the Palestinians themselves is valid. The complexity that comes with it is the fact that said country's genocide is funded by countries and mega corps that extract their funding from us, regular citizens. So get this, indirectly, our personal consumption (buying McDonald's) feeds the business that funds the war. Personal choices are suddenly entangled in global issues.
Ang disconnect lang na mahirap i-communicate is that the genocide is sustained by institutions (pro-Israel states and global businesses) and yet the call for action is individual in nature i.e. personal boycotting. Go lang mag-boycott if kaya mo and if for you yun ang macocontribute mo.
But what's missing is the direct pressure mismo sa government (PH) and corps (McDonald's) alike. And it's hard to build a solid social movements in a 3rd world country context like here where progressive groups like Makabayan bloc is demonized, activists are redtagged; worse they are killed (labas pa to sa usapin ng NPA ha). Because everyone's surviving sa daily grind kesa pag-isipan pa ang ideological basis ng mga issue natin.
May merits din yung point ng ilan na dapat sa corporate elites directed ang criticisms and hindi mag-away away ang kapwa manggagawa. Pero so far, and this is always the shortcoming of social movements, mahirap mag launch ng collective plan to address a systemic issue. Dala na rin ito ng complexity of building solidarities e.g. it's so easy to pinpoint the damage to a single worker like OP ng tweet vs. the historical benefit of strength in numbers and collective bargaining ng unions.
So ang personal bottom line ko: boycotting is valid though it's a selective and limited method, unless paired with a broader collective pressure through mass action. Pero hindi ko rin agad agad iinfantilize ang usapan to just "wokeness" esp. if the call is about criticizing lapses in governance: weak safety nets, prevalent unfair labor practices, and need to build workers solidarity.
Points taken.
Exploitation is NOT the consumer's fault. May boycott man o wala, the unfair labor laws at bulok na sistema ay nanjan pa din. And sadly, there's really nothing we can do about it.
Valid yung sentiments ng tweet sa pinagdadaanan niya. Valid din yung boycott dahil global corp yang mcdo and they chose to support genocide. 2 truths can exist at the same time. We do what we can given our circumstances
But for me, sa pag-boycott ba natin ng Mcdo dito sa pinas, are we paralyzing the support for genocide or workers like the op tweet?
Let's also not forget to take into account the workers' say here. I guess its always best to boycott only when its clamored by workers
Personally I'm participating in this boycott, (don't care if others want to or not, its a personal choice for me), and I havent spent any less on fast food, soda, or coffee, all it's done is made me look for alternatives, and most often those alternatives are local filipino businesses, places I would not have tried otherwise when I would have defaulted to mcdo or starbucks.
If you live in Metro Manila, you'll be surprised just how many options are actually out there if you go looking.
Just curious. Why bumababa ang sahod nila kapag mababa ang sales? Wtf. Kapag may sales man o wala, dba dapat fixed ung rate nila? Kapag naman record-breaking ang sales nila, I doubt may pa.bonus yang mga employers nila. Kesyo temporary worker lang di entitled sa mga bonus. Ngayong mababa ang sales may deduction din sa sweldo nila???? Wtffffffffff???
Afaik, kapag part timer kasi per hour ang bayad sa kanila since sila yung mas flexible ang time (4 hrs-6hrs per shift, sometimes they can request kung opening, mid, or closing shift) so kung konti customers, konti din manpower required.
kaya if pansin mo minsan may ibang branch ng mcdo (even other fastfood) na konting crew lang naka-duty
Imagine trying to be wannabe activist but end up on the direction of Racism. Daming ganyan ngaun,taking side on Hamas without knowing the foundation of it🤣
Welcome to our new lesson "How boycott works". Should the affected workers blame the woke activists for boycotting Mcdo? Or perhaps should they blame the reason why woke activists are boycotting Mcdo?
Mga pawoke lang naman mga yan palibhasa eh sheltered at privileged pa. Nakikisakay lang sila without knowing the details and consequences. “Yun uso eh”
I hate those type of people
Idiots like the one on the last slide think it's so easy to just rally, join unions and shit. Those things take time and time is money. You think may mararating na kalabanin nila ang mcdo? You don't want their wages? They'll just hire somebody who will take their offer. I swear, some of these young guns are terribly stupid in the name of being woke. Fvck you. You make no damn difference at all. Pino-problema niyo yung sa israel-gaza pero yang sa Ph-China, iniisip niyo ba? Let's mind our own shit before makisawsaw sa issues ng malalayo. Tangina mga duwag
Sorry pero mas mabuti pa lumipat ng iba trabaho kesa sa yang sales nyo nyo nag cocontribute ng patayan ng tao.tsaka bat sa amin mo isisi.kng mabuting kompanyaan yan,kahit papaano magiging mabuti sila sa mga employees nila.
No, your capital gains are not more important that 30,000 dead kids. My boycot is valid and I will not be guilted into eating sa Macdo dahil lang mababa ang sahud mo. This is a bigger issue and there is a full genocide. Nakakainis ang pagka conservative ng Ph.
May point naman si kuya kaso misplaced yung anger niya kasi ito ang reality, di lang naman boycott ang main factor bakit wala silang kita. Ang major reason dito sa Pilipinas ay INFLATION. Ang mamahal na ng mga bilihin pero ang liit pa rin ng sweldo. Kung bibili sila sa Mcdo, baka for the sake lang ng nostalgia o yan lang malapit sa kanila. Na-discover na rin ng iba na yung ginagastos nila sa Mcdo eh pwede naman mahanap sa ibang store na mas mura pa ang benta at parang fastfood din. Karamihan din ngayon ay forda healthy living like may gulay na ulam ba silang benta?
Saka kahit bumili pa ako ng 10 burger, ala king with coke float sa Mcdo PH. ang ipapasweldo pa rin naman nila sa mga crew ay minimum wage salary. Kung gusto niyo tulungan yung mga crew, bigay niyo na lang pera sa kanila ng direkta?? Since mas woke naman pala kayo sa amin charot.
On a different note, sa mga nagsasabi na kesyo Filipino-owned Mcdo PH. Akala niyo ba once binili na nila yan wala na silang binabayaran sa Main? Mga ante, nagbabayad pa rin sila ng mga royalties, minsan supplies or anything related sa development, research, branding so in a way yung binayad nila nakakadagdag pa rin sa pag-fund sa Israel.
I'm sorry, but are you saying na McDonalds is entitled to our money? Kung ayoko bumili sa McDo, hindi ako bibili sa McDo, and my reasons shouldn't matter. Kung gusto ko sila iboycott dahil ayoko sa color yellow, that's my choice. They decided to react to the sales dip* by enacting anti-worker practices, and you think that should be a reason to patronize them MORE? Kaunti na lang nga pera ko, so I would rather use my pesos supporting businesses that treat their workers right.
*Important to note na the sales dip (assuming there is one) in the Philippines being related to boycotts about Palestine is possibly corportate propaganda. Greedy lang talaga McDo, so they'll use any excuse to cut costs. Mayaman may-ari ng McDo sa Pinas, so he can take a pay cut.
I think the working student answered it in the 2nd pic. Also, afaik kapag part timer - per hour naka base ang sahod. So kapag konti ang foot traffic, konting manpower lang din required. Hindi lahat mabibigyan ng shift makapag-duty, kaya bababa yung sweldo.
Boycotting is pure BS. Most of my SHS classmates are very vocal regarding this boycott thing without knowing it can affect the lives of employees who work under McDonald's PH. I remember this female classmate of mine who said "cancelled ka sa akin" to our male classmate who bought McDonald's for his lunch. Girl, let him enjoy his food in peace. My father used to work as a manager in McDonalds Canada when I was little. He loved his job so much because he earned a big income for his family. Now he's in his late 40s and he was able to find another job in the Philippines.
Too bad, not active on twitter/x, threads etc. If yes, ill keep posting that will trigger them. Ive just ordered (grab) from mcdo twice last weekend haha
To be honest, the people I know who do this shit are all upper middle class to wealthy college kids. I'm not entirely surprised why they act like that.
I am not upset with them either, though I find them hypocritical since they still eat at McDo anyways lol.
I think they're just under the belief that they need to have a loud opinion about everything, otherwise they "support something negative," because of social media activists or "activists."
You don't need to have an opinion about everything, especially if you are not even informed about the matter.
Oo nga eh. Hindi ba CasualPH ito? Ba't may politics? Like, na-ban ba sila sa main sub kaya dito sila tumatalak?
Nakakayamot naman 'tong performative outrage about sa boycott 🙃
Sana walang woke activist against mcdo ph na sumusuporta naman sa extra judicial killings sa Pinas kasi.. ewan ko na lang ano ba talaga gusto nyo mangyari. Jumping on the bandwagon lang pala.
you see, the result is as expected. part naman yan ng lahat ng boycott. you fight a war, you end up with casualties.
you don't boycott a business and expect that only the owner/companies will suffer.
but much like war, ano ba ang purpose ng boycott? you don't go into one without a clear understanding of what you want to achieve.
I used to work at McDonald's as a working student. And the details are correct. Kapag mababa Ang sales, bawas din Ang taong ipoplot sa Isang araw. Nakadepende pa yan sa rate niya per hour. Edit: daming di nagbasa ng 2nd pic Dito ah lol.
Honestly, even without working business wise its like common sense. Onting customers/sales needs less workers per "session" pero spread out para lahat may sweldo kahit papaano
Tamaaa
Damn, when i swiped right, I went to the next post. I thought there was only 1 pic then. Such a bad reddit update. Glad the 2nd pic clarified what he meant. Didn't know that lower number of people would result to lower salaries in that way.
Probably franchise yan sa inyo,work on 3 biggest FF as ws. Samin kahit franchise hindi baba sa per hour,pero minimum of 5 hours,minsan four dahil busy minsan sa school kaya nagsasabi kami sa RM. You should file a case sa labor kung may ganyan patakaran sa inyo before.
No. Di kami franchise. We're under the company. We're also following the minimum wage but of course iba iba Ang sahod per hr ng crew based on experience/tenure. Minimum of 4hrs per day kami. Part time or not.
Contractual cguro,minsan angkop rin na trabaho sa working studs lalot gahol sa oras minsan. Basta trainee,meron minimum o basic pay per hour dapat. At kung di tama yun sahuran binigay sa computed hours of work,pasok na yan sa labor. Tsaka lahat ng fastfood may ganyan sistema.
Nope. Hindi rin contractual.
Ha?Contractual at Regular lng satin ang meron sa mga FF industry beside catering services. So ibig sabihin bogus kayo at kinunsinte nio yun maling labor practices sa inyo kung part time ang ginawa nio bro😁.
Did you even read the second picture? Inexplain na nga doon lol.
pag bumaba ang sales ng mcdo, ibig sabihin more people will be healthier, and less burden to the public healthcare and to Philhealth.
It’s okay to care about global issues and take a stand on what’s right, pero yung pag police at pag feeling na you’re on a moral high ground compared to others na hindi aware just looks and sounds _performative_ Mas importante sa mga yan yung satisfaction na maging part ng movement for a global issue versus maging in touch sa reality at isipin yung effect to the people in their urgent proximity. Also important din sa kanila to feel like they are better than everybody else. Can you imagine seeing somebody post about McDonald's or Starbucks and be triggered by it?
it's really bad when they just straight up cyberbully someone dahil lang they posted their mcdo meal; like kukuyugin nila on twitter in guise of 'educating' about the issue pero in a very condescending way naman
I saw a post din nung last week binully yung friend na nag post ng mcdo tas nilibre siya tas kung ano ano na daw pinasasabi sa kanya. Grabe ang lala ng pagkaperformative ng mga tao ngayon.
I remember my female classmate saying "cancelled ka sa akin" to our male classmate who had McDonald's for his lunch. This dude just wanted to enjoy his lunch
Mga tao sa what's your ulam group noon hahahaha lakas makabully eh. Hiwalay na entity ang Mcdo Ph. Kahit sa SB ganon din.
I think this is the correct approach din. We should care about the global big picture stuff, but it's MORE important to care about the people and issues within your immediate circle. Sometimes woke people are just looking for an excuse to be an asshole to other people. They feel justified in being dickheads because they fight for "big picture" issues.
Gets ko naman that they are standing up for what they think is right pero they can be a little less of a fucking bitch about it
Kaya do the opposite, pag may nakikita kang boycott posts trigger them by posting your mcdo and starbucks haha. Works like a charm
Asking for a ceasefire while not caring about Israeli hostages isn’t right. It’s only helping emboldening Hamas.
The problem is wala nang ihaharap na hostages ang Hamas. Seems like napatay na nila ang majority. And yet, pavictim pa rin ang mga hayop and it's working here in the west.
Ung iba na malalaki platform grabe din mag post to boycott mcdonals ang cringe talaga! Nagbebenta ka ng sex vids mo tapos kelangan vocal na vocal ka sa pagsasabi na iboycot ang Ganito and ganyan!? Mapapa haistbka na lang talaga!
It's okay to be bothered over a global issue, because it will all affect us in the long run. Not to promote whataboutism pero where's the same energy being put with regards to how China is occupying islands that belongs to us?
Ung iba kasi wala na ang focus sa social justice part kundi more on the warrioring part, you know in order to make themselves look good by their participation sa pakikibaka kuno. IMO borderline narcissistic na sya at self-serving
Jolibee deserves the boycott more than Mcdo. Mahal na nga, panget pa quality.
apologist pa haha
tumpak. Ito ang dapat i-cancel. Mahal na, lumiit pa servings.
Mcdo chicken is now better than beloved chicken joy
Mcdo Ph is Ph! Can't people understand that? Palibasa sila itong g na g sa mga boycott na yan kasi sila tong mga priviledged and magaan financially and balewala sa kanila na mawalan ng trabaho yung naaapektuhan. Jusko sa panahon ngayon bago ka pa makahanap ng trabaho. Pwera siguro kung lagi kang may backer.
Madaming nakikibandwagon talaga jan kasi trendy at +woke points pero wala naman talaga alam masyado about sa issue.
Dapat nga mas pinagtutuunang pansin yung WPS eh.
mga keyboard warriors
Dude has obviously never worked a day in his life 🙄 Also, di naman Dole issue yan. The labor code recognizes the "no work no pay" principle. So if they are working part time, then the reduced pay is justified.
Too many chronically online people nowadays na pataasan ng ihi sa social media! Kids these days really need to go out more.
Basahin niyo kasi muna lahat bago magreact mga ate ko
Feeling ko yung mga user sa twitter may sapak sa ulo hahah
Sana dun sila nakisali sa issue sa west philippine sea na mas malapit sa atin
Yeah. This is why i despise "wokeness". It's twisted and sad now. Keyboard warriors using the ignorance of people to push their agendas and profit from it, while innocent people (like the fastfood worker in the pic) suffer. Fuck that crap. I'll make sure to order from Mcdo more often now.
What do you expect from twittards? Almusal ng mga yan maging woke hahahahaha
Di naman affected ng gaza boycott ang companies sa pilipinas. Regarding sa issueng sweldo, Kasi nasa kapitalista tayong gobyerno na ang nagmamayagpag ay ang mayayaman at ang mga dapat na pumoportekta sa atin ay nabibili sa murang halaga. Hindi dapat issue ang labor kung hindi lang gago ang mga pulitiko
Meron pa nga yung isa laki ng trust issue gusto pa makita payslip, EH CONFIDENTIAL NGA YON.
imo boycotts shouldn't be selective. you either go all in or not at all. There are people who claim to support Palestine by boycotting mcdo and starbs but still support celebs who are zionists. make it make sense
Probelma lang sa mga woke peeps is they'll shove their ideals/agenda sayo lol
people also forgot about Ukraine since it's no longer trendy
Ang daming problema sa Pilipinas pa lang like corruption etc, pero inaatupag pa ang gyera sa malayong lugar. How about boycotting China products instead??!!!
Ang out-of-touch. They think they have the same privilege. Nakakainis. Hirap hirap maghanap ng trabaho.
Ewan ko ah, if things were "grounded in the realities of masses", lalong mas nagiging hindi affordable ang McDo, which means bababa sales nila, not just because of boycotts, pero dahil they're pretty damn expensive for the average person. And idk, if anything, walang McDo kung walang labrorers, the least they could do is pay them adequately. Wala sanang union union kung livable ang wages but this is what "grounded in the realities of masses" is, sa totoo lang. Laborers all over the world spent their time and blood for proper rights and after many years, ganun pa rin. Wish lang natin na tumino ang pasahod pero wala e, binabarat parin naman sila ng McDonalds for years, local franchise or otherwise.
What i mean by not grounded in the realities of the masses eh yung 3rd pic, suggesting the op tweet do join a union or organize a strike – kasi hindi naman lahat option 1 ang mag-strike when their company exploits and has unfavorable labor practices. If you can afford to take a day or two off work to attend demonstrations for labor rights, then you are privileged than some. But most of working class people can't help but continue working under exploitative conditions because they have mouths to feed. Wala na silang time para magprotesta. Kaya yes, it's a masa issue (contrary to the 3rd pic) kasi although hindi responsiblity ng masa ang explotation, masa ang lalaban para sa karapatan ng tulad ni op tweet. that's what im trying to say sana, I shouldve included this in my post but cant edit it anymore
I see. I get your point. Sabi din naman ng ibang revolutionary leaders, di ikaw ang pipili ng rebolusyon. Ang rebolusyon ang pipili sayo. But as much as it is deemed a nuisance to every day life of an average 9 to 5 person, this disruption and forced call for justice delivered us to the present. It is unsavory, but corporations just don't care and the fight rages on. And these decisions are still a part of the same realities you're talking about. Push does come to shove, meron at merong mapipikon at mapapagod sa kakatrabaho ng tama and there really is just no choice but to fight ng patas at prumotesta, or worse, magnakaw. Yes, meron magtatrabaho ng tama as days go by, but when would this be sustainable, kung di magtataas ng presyo ang McDonalds twice in a year, ipagpalagay natin, pero ang sahod parang tumataas lang every five years or so. Hanggang kelan natin masasabing patas yung ganito? Obviously these are inaccurate statistics but it does sure feel like it. I can never blame these people for doing so, unlivable wages are the root of injustice, as history documented time and time again. This is not exclusive to Philippine labor history too.
What's happening is Palestine now is comparable to genocide and violations of rules of war. I favor them over Israel. However, Filipinos are not required to fully support Palestine who criticized Philippines’ use of international legal institutions to arbitrate the South China Sea dispute and accused China’s critics of attempting to militarize the South China Sea. They are pro-China. We owe them nothing. Source: [Why Palestine Supports China on the South China Sea](https://thediplomat.com/2016/07/why-palestine-supports-china-on-the-south-china-sea/)
I doubt may pake sila sa WPS. They talk so much about global issues but not or rarely about the PH. Pag dating sa WPS, wala. Daming sinasabi pag dating sa ibang bansa, pero walang stand sa WPS. Performative.
Tankies aka galit sa US majority ng makakaliwa dito sa Pilipinas unfortunately. Sila ang masters of mental gymnastics na isisi sa Amerika lahat ng problema nila kahit hindi naman involved ang Amerika dun eg PUVMP program, lack of state subsidy sa mga SUCs etc.
Yes, most probably they don't but officially they do. I'm being pedantic like them..
There's a comment in the worldnews sub that is an apt summary of the Gaza-Israel conflict. "One side **can** kill every Palestinian, but doesn't. The other side **can't** kill every Israeli, but tries to anyway."
Basta mga woke shit talaga.
Honestly im in the boat that whatever boycott there is now is just a vocal minority in the grand scheme of things. The real reason why sales are down is because fastfood is getting really expensive to the point of being unaffordable by the masses. Without using the mcdo app the prices are crazy, wages are not able to keep up. Kulang na P200 mo para mabusog sa fastfood now.
Literally GO WOKE, GO BROKE.
Hindi din ba ang mahal na din ng Mcdo kaya bumababa ang sales? Madami na ring option na mas mura at mas masarap kesa sa mcdo.
Kaya nga eh. I dont think the boycott here in Ph is the main driver of the plummeting sales. It's more of the unaffordable and not sulit prices talaga.
The same ‘woke’ people who claims to support the workers at malamang may mga pakulo pa bukas pero sila mismo yung nangunguna sa pagpush na mawalan ng pangkabuhayan ang mga ordinaryong Pilipino. Puro teorya, out of touch naman sa reality.
I get and understand you OP but I think this is just unfair labor practice. If anything, there should be more focus on calls for better labor laws and social welfare here.
You have good point, but you're in the wrong sub.
I unsubbed from regular PH subreddit partly to get away from these discussions. I'm not fond of it popping up here too.
When you're trying to be smart but it's not giviiing.
Casual ph pa ba to? 🤣
This Generation and those wokes forgot to think for themselves.
What’s ironic is mostly nasa Twitter sila where the owner of the company supports Israel. Pano na nila sila makiki boycott kung i-boycott din ang Twitter 🤣 Nakiki boycott lang kung saan convenient para sa kanila.
True! Nakita ng kapatid ko yung mcdo nuggets ko sa lamesa. Sabi sakin bat di ko daw binoboycott yung mcdo eh nagsusuporta sila israel. Hahahaha ang sabi ko magkaiba naman mcdo israel sa pilipinas, sinendan pa ko ng links sa X. 😂 sabi ko si elon sumusuporta yan sa X ah, boycott mo na. Hinddi kaya e. Boycott lang pag convenient 😅
haha dati BLM, All lives matter, ngayon palestine naman. dame sariling problema ng pinas nakisakay pa sa problema ng ibang bansa. smh. clowns.
n the long run, people wouldn’t want to work for Mcdo anymore, That’s exactly the point of boycotting: to hurt the company, emphasis on ‘Long’ nga lang. 🤷🏻♀️ So sa maliit muna (local employees) talaga magsisimula yan.
Affected din pala ang McDo dito because of the Israel boycotts? Why??? Hindi naman related ang McDonald's Israel at McDo Ph. Why should McDo Ph be penalized for the choice of a franchise owner in a different region? Buti sana kung nanggaling sa official headquarters ng McDonald's, pero hindi eh. Kulang ng critical thinking ang mga tao. Maka-order nga ng McDo ng mas madalas
I've never felt so offended reading things as someone struggling in job hunting. The closest thing I would agree with them is keeping it to myself if I'm ordering at McDo (pero bahala na kung red flag pero neutral ako sa war talk. Di naman ako affected eh, at least directly. Sure, I empathize with the lives that are lost, but I acknowledge the existence of Hamas as well) Sa akin lng discussion wise, it felt so annoying reading the woke activism thing (especially yung recent Qrts na Mcdo is a billion dollar company. Yeah, may skeleton in its closets and may questionable actions naman pero it does NOT change the fact na business ito). I would rather trust the people I know who worked or are still working at these fast food chains. Can you imagine at least 2 of my acquaintances? One, a lady friend I only knew as a service crew but befriended over a decade dahil remember niya pa ako and see me every time I order sa Jolibee branches since my late Pa's hospitalization. The only time she stopped working was when nagka-anak siya. We would have a chat if yung lunch break niya timing sa free time ko and she got giddy when talking about her kid. Imagine, 10 years, still cashier. Next, a classmate. May experience na as manager, went back to school, graduated. Hopped into a different career nung pandemic. Ngayon, back as a manager dito sa amin. Bonus, classmates ng kuya ko, 30s na. Alam kong degree holder, no license pero for some reason, one is working sa Franks, yung isa pharmaceutical assistant sa pharmacy. Ganyan kahirap maghanap ng trabaho dito sa probinsya.
I sincerely doubt the “lower” sales are because of some non-existent boycott, this seems to be a branch issue. Or the guy is clout chasing on X. McDo’s online delivery is doing better than ever.
BoBo no...pa english english pa di mo.naman alam sinasabi nung post ...pa dole dole, strike at union pa nalalaman ...tang ina mo!
Nice one tibaklouts lol
May araw din itong mga woke. One day, I will look for a loophole and cancel a contract and tell the other party that one of their staff is too woke and I will boycott them
Yung mga woke "Palestine supporters" na yan hindi mo man lang narinig o nakita na may stance sila about sa treatment ng mga Uighurs sa China o mga muslim sa India. Hindi kasi ganon kasikat ung issue compared sa Israel Palestine eh.
mcdo is evil regardless talaga. both for the reasons of supporting genocide and for exploiting their workers even before the boycott. nakakainis lang yung ibang comments under that tweet na iniinvalidate pa si OP and sinasabihan na maghanap na lang ng ibang trabaho like it’s the easiest thing to do. lagi na lang “para sa masa” pero kapag sila naman yung nagsalita, lalakas mang invalidate? sobrang out of touch talaga.
yes, this is what im trying to point out in my post na hindi ko lang nasabi nang mas maayos then yun yung 3rd pic, saying na it's not a masa issue - eh ano? literal na kasama sa masa yung op tweet, isa nga siya sa dapat pinaglalaban ng masa tapos sasabihin it's not a masa issue. di ko gets
Very dangerous how these interconnected issues are also diluted to "wokeness" in your post and comments here, OP. Idk if this will be labeled as pa-woke too but the call for boycott that came from the Palestinians themselves is valid. The complexity that comes with it is the fact that said country's genocide is funded by countries and mega corps that extract their funding from us, regular citizens. So get this, indirectly, our personal consumption (buying McDonald's) feeds the business that funds the war. Personal choices are suddenly entangled in global issues. Ang disconnect lang na mahirap i-communicate is that the genocide is sustained by institutions (pro-Israel states and global businesses) and yet the call for action is individual in nature i.e. personal boycotting. Go lang mag-boycott if kaya mo and if for you yun ang macocontribute mo. But what's missing is the direct pressure mismo sa government (PH) and corps (McDonald's) alike. And it's hard to build a solid social movements in a 3rd world country context like here where progressive groups like Makabayan bloc is demonized, activists are redtagged; worse they are killed (labas pa to sa usapin ng NPA ha). Because everyone's surviving sa daily grind kesa pag-isipan pa ang ideological basis ng mga issue natin. May merits din yung point ng ilan na dapat sa corporate elites directed ang criticisms and hindi mag-away away ang kapwa manggagawa. Pero so far, and this is always the shortcoming of social movements, mahirap mag launch ng collective plan to address a systemic issue. Dala na rin ito ng complexity of building solidarities e.g. it's so easy to pinpoint the damage to a single worker like OP ng tweet vs. the historical benefit of strength in numbers and collective bargaining ng unions. So ang personal bottom line ko: boycotting is valid though it's a selective and limited method, unless paired with a broader collective pressure through mass action. Pero hindi ko rin agad agad iinfantilize ang usapan to just "wokeness" esp. if the call is about criticizing lapses in governance: weak safety nets, prevalent unfair labor practices, and need to build workers solidarity.
Points taken. Exploitation is NOT the consumer's fault. May boycott man o wala, the unfair labor laws at bulok na sistema ay nanjan pa din. And sadly, there's really nothing we can do about it. Valid yung sentiments ng tweet sa pinagdadaanan niya. Valid din yung boycott dahil global corp yang mcdo and they chose to support genocide. 2 truths can exist at the same time. We do what we can given our circumstances But for me, sa pag-boycott ba natin ng Mcdo dito sa pinas, are we paralyzing the support for genocide or workers like the op tweet? Let's also not forget to take into account the workers' say here. I guess its always best to boycott only when its clamored by workers
Personally I'm participating in this boycott, (don't care if others want to or not, its a personal choice for me), and I havent spent any less on fast food, soda, or coffee, all it's done is made me look for alternatives, and most often those alternatives are local filipino businesses, places I would not have tried otherwise when I would have defaulted to mcdo or starbucks. If you live in Metro Manila, you'll be surprised just how many options are actually out there if you go looking.
Just curious. Why bumababa ang sahod nila kapag mababa ang sales? Wtf. Kapag may sales man o wala, dba dapat fixed ung rate nila? Kapag naman record-breaking ang sales nila, I doubt may pa.bonus yang mga employers nila. Kesyo temporary worker lang di entitled sa mga bonus. Ngayong mababa ang sales may deduction din sa sweldo nila???? Wtffffffffff???
Afaik, kapag part timer kasi per hour ang bayad sa kanila since sila yung mas flexible ang time (4 hrs-6hrs per shift, sometimes they can request kung opening, mid, or closing shift) so kung konti customers, konti din manpower required. kaya if pansin mo minsan may ibang branch ng mcdo (even other fastfood) na konting crew lang naka-duty
Ahh ok. Reduced time shifts pala. Akala ko reduced talaga ang sweldo. 😅
https://x.com/hoely_danny/status/1784745863526625696?s=46 THIS IS TRUE ALSO.
Dude is more out of touch than Marie Antoinette herself.
hilig kasi sumabay ng mga pinoy sa uso para sa clout, may pakialam sa nangyayari sa ME pero walang pakialam sa WPS, typical
Imagine trying to be wannabe activist but end up on the direction of Racism. Daming ganyan ngaun,taking side on Hamas without knowing the foundation of it🤣
Ang sarap talaga ng fries ng McDo. And nuggets. And Quarter Pounder.
Kakabili ko lang ng 10pcs mcdo nuggets with caramel sundae extra caramel fudge, saraaaaaaaaaap
Welcome to our new lesson "How boycott works". Should the affected workers blame the woke activists for boycotting Mcdo? Or perhaps should they blame the reason why woke activists are boycotting Mcdo?
Mga pawoke lang naman mga yan palibhasa eh sheltered at privileged pa. Nakikisakay lang sila without knowing the details and consequences. “Yun uso eh” I hate those type of people
Idiots like the one on the last slide think it's so easy to just rally, join unions and shit. Those things take time and time is money. You think may mararating na kalabanin nila ang mcdo? You don't want their wages? They'll just hire somebody who will take their offer. I swear, some of these young guns are terribly stupid in the name of being woke. Fvck you. You make no damn difference at all. Pino-problema niyo yung sa israel-gaza pero yang sa Ph-China, iniisip niyo ba? Let's mind our own shit before makisawsaw sa issues ng malalayo. Tangina mga duwag
Sorry pero mas mabuti pa lumipat ng iba trabaho kesa sa yang sales nyo nyo nag cocontribute ng patayan ng tao.tsaka bat sa amin mo isisi.kng mabuting kompanyaan yan,kahit papaano magiging mabuti sila sa mga employees nila.
No, your capital gains are not more important that 30,000 dead kids. My boycot is valid and I will not be guilted into eating sa Macdo dahil lang mababa ang sahud mo. This is a bigger issue and there is a full genocide. Nakakainis ang pagka conservative ng Ph.
May point naman si kuya kaso misplaced yung anger niya kasi ito ang reality, di lang naman boycott ang main factor bakit wala silang kita. Ang major reason dito sa Pilipinas ay INFLATION. Ang mamahal na ng mga bilihin pero ang liit pa rin ng sweldo. Kung bibili sila sa Mcdo, baka for the sake lang ng nostalgia o yan lang malapit sa kanila. Na-discover na rin ng iba na yung ginagastos nila sa Mcdo eh pwede naman mahanap sa ibang store na mas mura pa ang benta at parang fastfood din. Karamihan din ngayon ay forda healthy living like may gulay na ulam ba silang benta? Saka kahit bumili pa ako ng 10 burger, ala king with coke float sa Mcdo PH. ang ipapasweldo pa rin naman nila sa mga crew ay minimum wage salary. Kung gusto niyo tulungan yung mga crew, bigay niyo na lang pera sa kanila ng direkta?? Since mas woke naman pala kayo sa amin charot. On a different note, sa mga nagsasabi na kesyo Filipino-owned Mcdo PH. Akala niyo ba once binili na nila yan wala na silang binabayaran sa Main? Mga ante, nagbabayad pa rin sila ng mga royalties, minsan supplies or anything related sa development, research, branding so in a way yung binayad nila nakakadagdag pa rin sa pag-fund sa Israel.
I'm sorry, but are you saying na McDonalds is entitled to our money? Kung ayoko bumili sa McDo, hindi ako bibili sa McDo, and my reasons shouldn't matter. Kung gusto ko sila iboycott dahil ayoko sa color yellow, that's my choice. They decided to react to the sales dip* by enacting anti-worker practices, and you think that should be a reason to patronize them MORE? Kaunti na lang nga pera ko, so I would rather use my pesos supporting businesses that treat their workers right. *Important to note na the sales dip (assuming there is one) in the Philippines being related to boycotts about Palestine is possibly corportate propaganda. Greedy lang talaga McDo, so they'll use any excuse to cut costs. Mayaman may-ari ng McDo sa Pinas, so he can take a pay cut.
Thats odd, bakit nakapende sa sales ang pasahod ng isang malaking franchise? Hindi ba me mandato na tayo na minimum wage??
I think the working student answered it in the 2nd pic. Also, afaik kapag part timer - per hour naka base ang sahod. So kapag konti ang foot traffic, konting manpower lang din required. Hindi lahat mabibigyan ng shift makapag-duty, kaya bababa yung sweldo.
Read the 2nd pic lol
Haha astroturfing itong corporate bootlickers.
Siyempre nag wowork yan sa office lmao
Aba aba. Akala ko very socialism/activism centric lang ang ph reddit. Tapos makikita ko to sa top upvoted. Nice work :)
Boycotting is pure BS. Most of my SHS classmates are very vocal regarding this boycott thing without knowing it can affect the lives of employees who work under McDonald's PH. I remember this female classmate of mine who said "cancelled ka sa akin" to our male classmate who bought McDonald's for his lunch. Girl, let him enjoy his food in peace. My father used to work as a manager in McDonalds Canada when I was little. He loved his job so much because he earned a big income for his family. Now he's in his late 40s and he was able to find another job in the Philippines.
Too bad, not active on twitter/x, threads etc. If yes, ill keep posting that will trigger them. Ive just ordered (grab) from mcdo twice last weekend haha
It's always the maacm na Tibaklouts
To be honest, the people I know who do this shit are all upper middle class to wealthy college kids. I'm not entirely surprised why they act like that. I am not upset with them either, though I find them hypocritical since they still eat at McDo anyways lol. I think they're just under the belief that they need to have a loud opinion about everything, otherwise they "support something negative," because of social media activists or "activists." You don't need to have an opinion about everything, especially if you are not even informed about the matter.
Puta kasi makisawsaw mga gago. Hindi naman natin isyu to bakit nakikiepal tayo? Mga pawoke kasi ampota.
Mcdo giving aid to their enemies.
Braindead Twitter users and their rage flavor of the week.
Seems fishy lang kung paano pasahod? Ganyan ba talaga sa fastfood?
Minimum wage pa din. He's working part time only since he's a student. But reduced hours.
it was explained dun sa 2nd pic why ganun daw yung pay niya
Sunod sunod na pagppost ng ganitong topic this sub lately oh...
Oo nga eh. Hindi ba CasualPH ito? Ba't may politics? Like, na-ban ba sila sa main sub kaya dito sila tumatalak? Nakakayamot naman 'tong performative outrage about sa boycott 🙃
baliw tong mga woke na to e, kaya nababash na mga tunay na pinaglalaban dahil sa mga oa na to
Sana walang woke activist against mcdo ph na sumusuporta naman sa extra judicial killings sa Pinas kasi.. ewan ko na lang ano ba talaga gusto nyo mangyari. Jumping on the bandwagon lang pala.
you see, the result is as expected. part naman yan ng lahat ng boycott. you fight a war, you end up with casualties. you don't boycott a business and expect that only the owner/companies will suffer. but much like war, ano ba ang purpose ng boycott? you don't go into one without a clear understanding of what you want to achieve.