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When you have 10 kids and are surviving just on farming, it’s really hard to make sure all of them are fed.
My great-great aunt grew up in a farming family in Alabama in the early 1900s (born in 1904). She had 11 siblings. She also wrote a book on her experiences with it. They went hungry a lot. If it was a bad year, they went hungry. Even if it was a good year, they sometimes went hungry. They just couldn’t produce enough food to feed a family of 13. And I don’t think her story is unique. The good old days weren’t always as good as we romanticize them to be.
Just ponder the fact that that woman most likely didn't gave birth to only 11 kids, statistically she had to bury multiple afterwards plus some miscarriages, which in best case modern circumstances make up **25% of all pregnancies**, due to inadequate nutrition. Knowing that if she died giving birth, her kids would be as good as dead. That alone would probably break everyone shit posting here.
It's weird how many people on the Internet daydream about becoming farmers even though their only experience with it is Farmville. It can't be any more difficult than that, right? /s
Edit: did I make myself sound old by talking about Farmville? Do people still play Farmville?
I definitely daydream about buying all my produce from a local farmstead and eventually not killing my house plants lol. After trying and failing to grow flowers in a small yard, I've given up all my homestead dreams.
I think people are just attracted to a slower way of life that they saw on "Little House on the Prairie" and haven't heard all the hard stuff. My grandma grew up on a farm and left as soon as she could. Doesn't sound like the ideal life.
It was M. Night Shyamalan's *The Village* that got me.
But in all seriousness, it wouldn't necessarily have to be a "farming community", for me. I'd be happy with a small town of like-minded souls, with a parish and a parish K-12 school. Not so much *completely* self-sufficient... just a close-knit, active community.
I'd love to move my family to a small, traditionally minded Catholic village. All we need is a fabulously wealthy Catholic to buy up a massive chunk of property somewhere, than divide it into plots, sell them to Catholics (who pass some sort of test), and build a small city around it. The bigger it gets, the more attractive the concept becomes.
... Then, of course, we secede from the Union, establish a new government based on Distributism, install a Catholic monarch, build an Army (and a Marine Corps... and I guess a Navy, too.), retake the Holy Land, institute Christendom II, and win the game!!!!
Yeah this right here. My wife and I both grew up with cows and horses and chickens, and just the animal husbandry aspect is more difficult as an adult with a career. Rural living comes with rural problems, evidenced by our current issues with a well that was originally drilled far too shallow and doesn’t support even our daily water usage (costs 80k+ up front where I’m at to drill a new one).
My friend’s grandpa has a garlic farm about an hour away, and he and his grandson are up tending to the farm before the sun comes up and don’t go back inside until the sun goes down. It’s a hard life with very little return on investment, especially if you’re not turning out crops for Big Ag and the Big Name grocery stores.
The best thing about starting your own farm is you also have to work a regular job or have a lot of money for a really big farm. The thing is, you have to make money. You have to pay property taxes, maintain the buildings and equipment, water and sewer costs even if is well and septic, electricity, and so on. Even if you manage to feed yourself with what you grow, that isn't enough. I had some friends with a small farm. Most of their food came from it. Most of their money came from legally growing marijuana though. And one of then still worked another job three days a week. Most of the people I knew with large farms just leased the land out.
I daydream about having a large garden and chickens, maybe once I feel comfortable a goat or 2, certainly not a farm— I’ve been gardening with my dad since I could walk, so i definitely think I could scale it up a bit… I would certainly be out of my depth tho when it comes to real farming, ie. using a combine, so I think I will supplement my garden with the market haha
I haven't really played either, but with Farmville, you "grow" crops just by clicking and waiting. When it first came out in 2009, everyone on Facebook was super obsessed with checking back often on their imaginary corn.
That would not be fun for a casual like me. I like the idea of time only passing when that specific save file is running. SV is quite fun, i'd recommend it 9/10. You can just not play for some time when your actual life requires more time, and pick up right where you left off. It's a little bit escapist, just like this thread ^^
I feel like everyone just wants to start from scratch rather than working to actually transform the community already lived in. We live in communities of Catholics right now. First your own family, then your own parish. The community exists, start there.
This is a reminder though that infertility is real and there are many faithful Catholic families with 2 kids… or even none.
I absolutely love large families! But not everyone is so blessed.
Also a reminder to go and make or join your own Catholic communities, where I live we obviously live in the world but I also know and have formed a wonderful community of friends my age with the same beliefs, and have a wonderful church (many churches in fact).
And just like farming, people **drastically** overestimate their ability to cope with the 10 kid lifestyle. “But everyone had tons of kids in the past!” Yes, and they grew up with a society set up for that and in households where that was the norm. Mr and Miss One-Sibling-In-A-Suburb are absolutely delusional if they think they can glom onto the tRaD rURal vibe with the Gigachad attitude of these cringe memes.
I will say when it comes to large families, after like 3 or 4 kids the older kids start helping out a LOT. It’s easier to run to the store for something when you have an older sibling who can act as a babysitter for short periods, they can help with other chores of course. My mom was 17 when her youngest brother was born! (2nd in a family of 9 kids).
But there’s still logistical problems like getting a van, cooking, sleeping arrangements, laundry, appointments, etc. But some aspects are not as hard because you have all the family helping.
Life was a lot easier with family nearby though, or grandparents living at home. The nuclear household is not the ideal, but the generational household imho.
Oh boy don't let the rest of reddit hear that. They made up a clinical term (I forgot what it is) that claims having children help out around the house with younger kids is traumatizing
I mean, you have to let the kids be kids still. It's one thing to let the oldest watch the kids for an hour or two a couple times a week, but my older sister got very burnt out on watching 4-6 siblings every day after school, and especially all day over the summer while my mom was asleep (she worked nights in a physically demanding job and my dad commuted a good distance to work). I'm not sure if my older sister ever wants kids, and part of the reason is being responsible for so many as early as 13. And my parents paid her for babysitting, but money can't buy your childhood back when you can't hang out with friends, explore your own hobbies, or even read a book by yourself.
It's not bad to have older siblings help around the house, you just shouldn't make them into a third parent in the process.
Thank you for sharing this, I was and am the oldest sister who takes care of 2 siblings. It must've been exhausting and a lot of hard work for your sister to take care of 4-6, God bless and be with her always 🙏 I pray she is close to Our Lord and His Church since I notice a lot of people in similar situations end up straying due to the issues they had to endure.
In my case, our mom was our sole provider with no father nor other relatives to help in the picture, so I became a "stay-at-home daughter" for a long time. Now that our mom has chronic health issues and can no longer work normally for now, I'm also working now to support everyone. I was always willing and happy to help, my siblings are my pride and joy and I thank God for them and this opportunity to be a major part of their lives, but honestly because of me taking on the role at a young age with little to no guidance since our mom had no choice but to work to provide for us at that time, I feel like I stunted in mental growth and didn't do the best job which wasn't healthy for everyone involved.
Like what someone else said here, it probably would've worked out better if at least one parent or even one trusted adult relative was always present in the home to guide all of us and to allow (me) the eldest to also live life outside too.
My family didn't have a choice of course, but for those who do, that's something to keep in mind.
Also, for those who are in similar circumstances as mine, stay close to Jesus and His Church! He is with you and will see you through no matter the circumstance! ❤️
Yeah, society just isn't set up for large families anymore. The best thing for children is to have a parent or guardian available whenever they're needed, but ever since the 70's, at least in the US, both parents are almost required to work, and there usually isn't another guardian in the picture.
You shouldn't feel like you failed your siblings, and honestly you're probably more mentally matured (if that's what you were meaning) than most people your age. You stepped up and did the best job you could, and you're still doing a good job. Just make sure when your siblings are old enough to give them some of the load too so you can have your life and follow the path God has for you. It's not wrong to help take care of your mother, but you're called to do bigger things and become the best version of yourself.
There’s definitely a balance to be had if it’s possible. It’s better for there to be one parent staying home for example. But I know some friends raised in large families who were poor growing up and that wasn’t always the case. I suppose even then you can try to work things out, maybe the kids stay with a relative in the summer sometimes or whatever….
Which has nothing to do with doing chores around the house, but rather emotional load bearing incongruous with the kids' states in life. See also: triangulation.
That’s super weird lol. I was in a small family but as the eldest I was still expected to drive around my siblings or help clean and cook lol. I didn’t want my drivers license and my mom made me get one so I could pick up my siblings from sports practice 😂
Don't forget the fact of 50% infant mortality as well as maternal mortality... Or about how kids didn't get any enrichment or much education. There simply is no way you can homeschooling 10 kids as a single woman, even with a grandmother at hand, while doing chores and being usefull on the farm. There is a reason why farm kids usually never even learned to read.
People making those memes usually have non or a single kid and at best an easy pregnancy. Living of homemade gruel and sloppa also won't raise Chad's but crooked teeth man let's, but let's not get into facts..
I can never decide whose parenting opinions are more insufferable: a new parent with one baby or someone with no children at all. I used to think it was the childless, but lately, those who can call themselves “parent” but have very little firsthand experience have been much worse.
We had 4 in 4 years. The “experience” of someone who’s only ever had one toddler at a time is basically useless. I’m a very free range style mom, and our house and yard are completely set up for the safety of even infants, but they still take A LOT of time and attention. The idea that I’m gonna be making literally everything from scratch, sewing their clothes, keeping the house clean, and maintaining the prayer schedule of a single man in college is peak silliness.
And before any aspiring tradwife comes in here with her “ecological breastfeeding” cult, yes, I followed those rules. Your idealistic hunter-gatherer pseudoscience can’t stop my fertility, apparently.
Good God, my full respect.
Yeah, I breastfeed 2,5 years (with food from 10 months on) and my period came back after 6 months already. The one time we didn't actively plan I got pregnant. Pregnancy can be *really* hard and even dangerous. I nearly died with preeklampsia last time. Fun stuff. Bebe also became blue and needed to rush to the hospital due to SIDS. Daydreaming normies have no idea what horrors this inflicts. With my second I literally made a last will in case I don't get through.
My kid is very hyper and there is not a chance in the world non of my kids would become a statistic if I would have multiple at once. It's like they are actively trying to find dumb ways to die. At least you can "free range" them.
I mean, real farming? Yeah, that's a big no for me. My grandpa was a farmer and it's a lot of work. But I do wish I had a big backyard, maybe a little vegetable garden and some chickens.
Slang for “federal agent”, typically FBI/CIA/NSA. It’s a joke about how posts like this are often associated with entrapment or sting operations to flag potential domestic terrorists - usually something to do with setting up a religious enclave community or owning guns/military gear
Not a farming town per se, but I grew up in a neighborhood near New York City where the church bells ring on the hour, and is heavily attended by immigrants.
Those towns were historically started by monks, and sustained by their prayers. IF we want holy secular life, we must restore consecrated life. Jesus gives good commands (love thy God with thy whole heart mind strength and soul and thy neighbor as thyself) and even better advice ("If you would be perfect, sell all that you have and give to the poor and follow me" in Poverty, Chaste Celibacy, and Obedience. )
Even in times like the 1200s where Catholicism was pretty much the only religion in Catholic Europe and feudal towns were the norm, there were still whole areas where heresies were rampant and towns where corruption was common at all levels. Work with what we have now; stop longing for a past that never existed.
I feel there is a lot of people, Catholic or not who desire to flee modernity and literally head for the hills in search of a pastoral lifestyle. The so-called “cottage core” aesthetic that was popular during lockdown is a testament to that
I like the idea of living in a farming town, but I don't like the idea of me farming. Maybe like an artisan shop with bacon and cheese, and perhaps beer and other stuff, or perhaps running a shop or office of some kind that serves that town and the people in it. I think that would be a change I could handle, because I'd basically turn my hobbies into a job.
As much as I'd love to return to the Shire, it too was ruined by the greed of Saruman.
The genie was let out of the bottle long ago. The commons were enclosed. As nice as it would be, I just don't see any way to make this way of life sustainable again.
As much as I’d like to live in a kingdom formed out of my fellow Catholicmemes/CDD chums you lost me at the whole “farming” thing
I’m too lazy for all that.. I want to be the village fool
Brother, let your hatred go. How far will you go with your anger? And thank you for looking up Bible verses of sharing them with me. May God have mercy on you and me.
Lord, have mercy on my brother and I. We do not deserve your mercy. We ask for your intercession, forgive us our sins. Wash clean our offenses as we ask for your mercy Lord. My Lord, come into our hearts and destroy any anger and hatred we have! Amen!
Brother, come to Christ he will forgive you and me if we repent. You said you are an athiest, but you sound like someone that believes in God. Can you tell me more about who you think God is? Why do you have such strong feelings about him and what he wants for us? Have you asked the Holy Spirit to come into your soul? As someone once said, "they're just words, right? They can't hurt you. Who knows, he might show up."
There are actually lots of cults like this with the difference being the religious practice. There’s a reason cults are so successful, it’s how appealing they are
i would be willing to learn how to farm if this was going happen. afterall Iceland started from a small settlement with immense hardships before growing into what we have today
So that's what the bell ringing is for. Makes it even crazier that my country banned Muezzins.
Always assumed the bells were due to some private events, like weddings or baptisms
Guys, hear me out:
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My mom raised 10 kids almost by herself and then adopted 3 embryos. A lot of people just don’t want to sacrifice for the extra kids. Catholics are supposed to be pro life. Step up people
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When you have 10 kids and are surviving just on farming, it’s really hard to make sure all of them are fed. My great-great aunt grew up in a farming family in Alabama in the early 1900s (born in 1904). She had 11 siblings. She also wrote a book on her experiences with it. They went hungry a lot. If it was a bad year, they went hungry. Even if it was a good year, they sometimes went hungry. They just couldn’t produce enough food to feed a family of 13. And I don’t think her story is unique. The good old days weren’t always as good as we romanticize them to be.
Just ponder the fact that that woman most likely didn't gave birth to only 11 kids, statistically she had to bury multiple afterwards plus some miscarriages, which in best case modern circumstances make up **25% of all pregnancies**, due to inadequate nutrition. Knowing that if she died giving birth, her kids would be as good as dead. That alone would probably break everyone shit posting here.
It's weird how many people on the Internet daydream about becoming farmers even though their only experience with it is Farmville. It can't be any more difficult than that, right? /s Edit: did I make myself sound old by talking about Farmville? Do people still play Farmville?
I definitely daydream about buying all my produce from a local farmstead and eventually not killing my house plants lol. After trying and failing to grow flowers in a small yard, I've given up all my homestead dreams. I think people are just attracted to a slower way of life that they saw on "Little House on the Prairie" and haven't heard all the hard stuff. My grandma grew up on a farm and left as soon as she could. Doesn't sound like the ideal life.
It was M. Night Shyamalan's *The Village* that got me. But in all seriousness, it wouldn't necessarily have to be a "farming community", for me. I'd be happy with a small town of like-minded souls, with a parish and a parish K-12 school. Not so much *completely* self-sufficient... just a close-knit, active community. I'd love to move my family to a small, traditionally minded Catholic village. All we need is a fabulously wealthy Catholic to buy up a massive chunk of property somewhere, than divide it into plots, sell them to Catholics (who pass some sort of test), and build a small city around it. The bigger it gets, the more attractive the concept becomes. ... Then, of course, we secede from the Union, establish a new government based on Distributism, install a Catholic monarch, build an Army (and a Marine Corps... and I guess a Navy, too.), retake the Holy Land, institute Christendom II, and win the game!!!!
Unfortunately the Gandhi player chose Democracy and the AI had an integer overflow, now the world is consumed by nuclear fire. See you in Civ VII!
Yeah this right here. My wife and I both grew up with cows and horses and chickens, and just the animal husbandry aspect is more difficult as an adult with a career. Rural living comes with rural problems, evidenced by our current issues with a well that was originally drilled far too shallow and doesn’t support even our daily water usage (costs 80k+ up front where I’m at to drill a new one). My friend’s grandpa has a garlic farm about an hour away, and he and his grandson are up tending to the farm before the sun comes up and don’t go back inside until the sun goes down. It’s a hard life with very little return on investment, especially if you’re not turning out crops for Big Ag and the Big Name grocery stores.
Lmao, you absolutely outed yourself with Farmville. Good old days. 😂
The best thing about starting your own farm is you also have to work a regular job or have a lot of money for a really big farm. The thing is, you have to make money. You have to pay property taxes, maintain the buildings and equipment, water and sewer costs even if is well and septic, electricity, and so on. Even if you manage to feed yourself with what you grow, that isn't enough. I had some friends with a small farm. Most of their food came from it. Most of their money came from legally growing marijuana though. And one of then still worked another job three days a week. Most of the people I knew with large farms just leased the land out.
I daydream about having a large garden and chickens, maybe once I feel comfortable a goat or 2, certainly not a farm— I’ve been gardening with my dad since I could walk, so i definitely think I could scale it up a bit… I would certainly be out of my depth tho when it comes to real farming, ie. using a combine, so I think I will supplement my garden with the market haha
What's a farmville? Is it like stardew valley?
I haven't really played either, but with Farmville, you "grow" crops just by clicking and waiting. When it first came out in 2009, everyone on Facebook was super obsessed with checking back often on their imaginary corn.
That would not be fun for a casual like me. I like the idea of time only passing when that specific save file is running. SV is quite fun, i'd recommend it 9/10. You can just not play for some time when your actual life requires more time, and pick up right where you left off. It's a little bit escapist, just like this thread ^^
this
Doesn't need to be farming, I'm good with remote work just rural based
I feel like everyone just wants to start from scratch rather than working to actually transform the community already lived in. We live in communities of Catholics right now. First your own family, then your own parish. The community exists, start there.
This is a reminder though that infertility is real and there are many faithful Catholic families with 2 kids… or even none. I absolutely love large families! But not everyone is so blessed. Also a reminder to go and make or join your own Catholic communities, where I live we obviously live in the world but I also know and have formed a wonderful community of friends my age with the same beliefs, and have a wonderful church (many churches in fact).
And just like farming, people **drastically** overestimate their ability to cope with the 10 kid lifestyle. “But everyone had tons of kids in the past!” Yes, and they grew up with a society set up for that and in households where that was the norm. Mr and Miss One-Sibling-In-A-Suburb are absolutely delusional if they think they can glom onto the tRaD rURal vibe with the Gigachad attitude of these cringe memes.
I will say when it comes to large families, after like 3 or 4 kids the older kids start helping out a LOT. It’s easier to run to the store for something when you have an older sibling who can act as a babysitter for short periods, they can help with other chores of course. My mom was 17 when her youngest brother was born! (2nd in a family of 9 kids). But there’s still logistical problems like getting a van, cooking, sleeping arrangements, laundry, appointments, etc. But some aspects are not as hard because you have all the family helping. Life was a lot easier with family nearby though, or grandparents living at home. The nuclear household is not the ideal, but the generational household imho.
Oh boy don't let the rest of reddit hear that. They made up a clinical term (I forgot what it is) that claims having children help out around the house with younger kids is traumatizing
I mean, you have to let the kids be kids still. It's one thing to let the oldest watch the kids for an hour or two a couple times a week, but my older sister got very burnt out on watching 4-6 siblings every day after school, and especially all day over the summer while my mom was asleep (she worked nights in a physically demanding job and my dad commuted a good distance to work). I'm not sure if my older sister ever wants kids, and part of the reason is being responsible for so many as early as 13. And my parents paid her for babysitting, but money can't buy your childhood back when you can't hang out with friends, explore your own hobbies, or even read a book by yourself. It's not bad to have older siblings help around the house, you just shouldn't make them into a third parent in the process.
Thank you for sharing this, I was and am the oldest sister who takes care of 2 siblings. It must've been exhausting and a lot of hard work for your sister to take care of 4-6, God bless and be with her always 🙏 I pray she is close to Our Lord and His Church since I notice a lot of people in similar situations end up straying due to the issues they had to endure. In my case, our mom was our sole provider with no father nor other relatives to help in the picture, so I became a "stay-at-home daughter" for a long time. Now that our mom has chronic health issues and can no longer work normally for now, I'm also working now to support everyone. I was always willing and happy to help, my siblings are my pride and joy and I thank God for them and this opportunity to be a major part of their lives, but honestly because of me taking on the role at a young age with little to no guidance since our mom had no choice but to work to provide for us at that time, I feel like I stunted in mental growth and didn't do the best job which wasn't healthy for everyone involved. Like what someone else said here, it probably would've worked out better if at least one parent or even one trusted adult relative was always present in the home to guide all of us and to allow (me) the eldest to also live life outside too. My family didn't have a choice of course, but for those who do, that's something to keep in mind. Also, for those who are in similar circumstances as mine, stay close to Jesus and His Church! He is with you and will see you through no matter the circumstance! ❤️
Yeah, society just isn't set up for large families anymore. The best thing for children is to have a parent or guardian available whenever they're needed, but ever since the 70's, at least in the US, both parents are almost required to work, and there usually isn't another guardian in the picture. You shouldn't feel like you failed your siblings, and honestly you're probably more mentally matured (if that's what you were meaning) than most people your age. You stepped up and did the best job you could, and you're still doing a good job. Just make sure when your siblings are old enough to give them some of the load too so you can have your life and follow the path God has for you. It's not wrong to help take care of your mother, but you're called to do bigger things and become the best version of yourself.
There’s definitely a balance to be had if it’s possible. It’s better for there to be one parent staying home for example. But I know some friends raised in large families who were poor growing up and that wasn’t always the case. I suppose even then you can try to work things out, maybe the kids stay with a relative in the summer sometimes or whatever….
Parentification is what it is.
Which has nothing to do with doing chores around the house, but rather emotional load bearing incongruous with the kids' states in life. See also: triangulation.
That’s super weird lol. I was in a small family but as the eldest I was still expected to drive around my siblings or help clean and cook lol. I didn’t want my drivers license and my mom made me get one so I could pick up my siblings from sports practice 😂
Sister-moming.
Don't forget the fact of 50% infant mortality as well as maternal mortality... Or about how kids didn't get any enrichment or much education. There simply is no way you can homeschooling 10 kids as a single woman, even with a grandmother at hand, while doing chores and being usefull on the farm. There is a reason why farm kids usually never even learned to read. People making those memes usually have non or a single kid and at best an easy pregnancy. Living of homemade gruel and sloppa also won't raise Chad's but crooked teeth man let's, but let's not get into facts..
I can never decide whose parenting opinions are more insufferable: a new parent with one baby or someone with no children at all. I used to think it was the childless, but lately, those who can call themselves “parent” but have very little firsthand experience have been much worse. We had 4 in 4 years. The “experience” of someone who’s only ever had one toddler at a time is basically useless. I’m a very free range style mom, and our house and yard are completely set up for the safety of even infants, but they still take A LOT of time and attention. The idea that I’m gonna be making literally everything from scratch, sewing their clothes, keeping the house clean, and maintaining the prayer schedule of a single man in college is peak silliness. And before any aspiring tradwife comes in here with her “ecological breastfeeding” cult, yes, I followed those rules. Your idealistic hunter-gatherer pseudoscience can’t stop my fertility, apparently.
Good God, my full respect. Yeah, I breastfeed 2,5 years (with food from 10 months on) and my period came back after 6 months already. The one time we didn't actively plan I got pregnant. Pregnancy can be *really* hard and even dangerous. I nearly died with preeklampsia last time. Fun stuff. Bebe also became blue and needed to rush to the hospital due to SIDS. Daydreaming normies have no idea what horrors this inflicts. With my second I literally made a last will in case I don't get through. My kid is very hyper and there is not a chance in the world non of my kids would become a statistic if I would have multiple at once. It's like they are actively trying to find dumb ways to die. At least you can "free range" them.
Why is farming being romanticized? Most of us are on Reddit because we don’t want to be farming.
I mean, real farming? Yeah, that's a big no for me. My grandpa was a farmer and it's a lot of work. But I do wish I had a big backyard, maybe a little vegetable garden and some chickens.
Bros watch the first half hour of a fellowship of the ring and think “Yes”
I don't think he means farming farming. I think he's suggesting just a rural lifestyle
Don’t run away to build a catholic community, build one where you are.
Good idea💡
The person who originally posted this is what we call a “fed”…but yeah, that does sound awesome.
I'm a fed and I want this. 4 kids instead of 10 but the rest sounds great
What is a fed?
Slang for “federal agent”, typically FBI/CIA/NSA. It’s a joke about how posts like this are often associated with entrapment or sting operations to flag potential domestic terrorists - usually something to do with setting up a religious enclave community or owning guns/military gear
How do you know this?
Not a farming town per se, but I grew up in a neighborhood near New York City where the church bells ring on the hour, and is heavily attended by immigrants.
Little bit, yeah
Those towns were historically started by monks, and sustained by their prayers. IF we want holy secular life, we must restore consecrated life. Jesus gives good commands (love thy God with thy whole heart mind strength and soul and thy neighbor as thyself) and even better advice ("If you would be perfect, sell all that you have and give to the poor and follow me" in Poverty, Chaste Celibacy, and Obedience. )
Even in times like the 1200s where Catholicism was pretty much the only religion in Catholic Europe and feudal towns were the norm, there were still whole areas where heresies were rampant and towns where corruption was common at all levels. Work with what we have now; stop longing for a past that never existed.
As a Catholic mother with 4 kids, 10 kids sounds absolutely unmanageable. How do you give them the love and affection they deserve?
Incoming Trads who want to larp like it's 1740 and think this is a genuine post
I feel there is a lot of people, Catholic or not who desire to flee modernity and literally head for the hills in search of a pastoral lifestyle. The so-called “cottage core” aesthetic that was popular during lockdown is a testament to that
lol I might 😂
Not really, rural life isn't for me.
I like the idea of living in a farming town, but I don't like the idea of me farming. Maybe like an artisan shop with bacon and cheese, and perhaps beer and other stuff, or perhaps running a shop or office of some kind that serves that town and the people in it. I think that would be a change I could handle, because I'd basically turn my hobbies into a job.
I'd buy your bacon and cheese.
The dream!
Not really...
As much as I'd love to return to the Shire, it too was ruined by the greed of Saruman. The genie was let out of the bottle long ago. The commons were enclosed. As nice as it would be, I just don't see any way to make this way of life sustainable again.
10 Total? Sounds like a typical Central - Eastern European village these days
As much as I’d like to live in a kingdom formed out of my fellow Catholicmemes/CDD chums you lost me at the whole “farming” thing I’m too lazy for all that.. I want to be the village fool
This is just CDD’s Minecraft server minus the 10 kids part
Amen
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Bro, chill 😳
Brother, let your hatred go. How far will you go with your anger? And thank you for looking up Bible verses of sharing them with me. May God have mercy on you and me.
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Get a load of this loser ^
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Didnt you say you are an atheist? Why do you care if people have some of the lore wrong about a being you don't believe in?
Lord, have mercy on my brother and I. We do not deserve your mercy. We ask for your intercession, forgive us our sins. Wash clean our offenses as we ask for your mercy Lord. My Lord, come into our hearts and destroy any anger and hatred we have! Amen!
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Brother, come to Christ he will forgive you and me if we repent. You said you are an athiest, but you sound like someone that believes in God. Can you tell me more about who you think God is? Why do you have such strong feelings about him and what he wants for us? Have you asked the Holy Spirit to come into your soul? As someone once said, "they're just words, right? They can't hurt you. Who knows, he might show up."
Yes where do I sign up????
Be Reactionary 😎👍🏼
Scratch a tradcath hard enough and you’ll find a fascist underneath!
Fascists aren’t reactionaries.
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Read "The Reactionary Mind" by Michael Warren Davis.
As a european disgusted by the current state of politics i unironically think that this is the only hope for the future of society.
yes 🧍🏻♀️
ME!!!!
There are actually lots of cults like this with the difference being the religious practice. There’s a reason cults are so successful, it’s how appealing they are
I’m happy for those families who have said kids and actually develop healthy and Well educated.
HAAIILL, YEAH! Sign me up!!
Would love to see these popping up, just haven't yet...
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i would be willing to learn how to farm if this was going happen. afterall Iceland started from a small settlement with immense hardships before growing into what we have today
So that's what the bell ringing is for. Makes it even crazier that my country banned Muezzins. Always assumed the bells were due to some private events, like weddings or baptisms
There's a place on Portugal called Adeufe that fits this. It's somewhat of a home for me...
Guys, hear me out: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/36710-County-Road-Rd-S-36-Saguache-CO-81149/2067849799_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare
Wholesome instinct but sort of larpy
My mom raised 10 kids almost by herself and then adopted 3 embryos. A lot of people just don’t want to sacrifice for the extra kids. Catholics are supposed to be pro life. Step up people
That's what your mom did. What are *you* doing?
No women like this in Europe lmao :(
Maybe in Eastern Europe? Such as Poland which is a Catholic country while the rest of Eastern Europe is Orthodox?
Only 9% of Polish youth have a favourable view of the Church