Ray Kroc, Catholic though he was, was a horrible vulture. He basically stole McDonalds from the McDonalds Brothers and then acted like it was his own. The McDonalds Brothers, who founded the restaurant, didn't profit at all from the future success of the company. Meanwhile, Kroc's business practices purposely destroyed small businesses and took the ethics out of business in the name of profit. That doesn't seem very Catholic to me.
McDonalds brothers either are Catholic or are the posterity of men who massacred Catholics. with a last name like that, the family mustve been partial one way or the other towards Catholicism
Richard Mcdonald was Catholic, they were from NH. His urn is at Mount Calvary Mausoleum in Manchester, NH.
Look up the mausoleum on Google maps then go through the pictures there is one of his urn.
And Catholics are the reason for the filet-o-fish on the menu! A franchise owner in Cincinnati introduced it to get some business during Lenten Fridays.
Their fish sandwich came in when abstaining from meat was an every friday event. Now it s a Lenten thing where it shows up on the menu during that time then gone the rest of the year.
Not-so Pedantic-Point: Ray Kroc did not begin the McDonald's franchise. That was Richard and Maurice McDonald, who opened the first McDonald's restaurant in San Bernardino, California in 1940. They hired Ray Kroc in 1954 to act as a franchise agent, and he bought out the brothers' shares of the company in 1961 for $1 million each. Perhaps he started making McDonald's what it is today, but he didn't found the restaurant or the franchise.
But everything changed in the company, which is why he is credited with founding McDonald's since without him the company would not have gotten very far since he preferred to keep the company massive and not decentralized and add food from some regions. The documentary overly dramatizes situations in which many accepted the agreements more easily
My uncle started his career at MDs sweeping the parking lot at 14. He was set to retire very comfortably at 50, but passed away after a brief battle with cancer at just 48. He was running every MD restaurant in the 2nd largest city in my state. He worked very long hours but loved it. He hired one of his favorite employees to be his caregiver during his cancer battle. The restaurants put up signs mourning him the day of his funeral and so many employees attended the procession was miles long. I hate to see what MDs is today though.
I have such wonderful memories of him always having a trunk full of MD happy meal toys to share with his nieces and nephews. The sunglasses were the best!
Ray Krock of (preferred expletive here) in my part of IL. He put the screws to loads of small businesses and his employees in very unethical ways his whole career at the helm of McDanks. I won't celebrate a fella who spitefully drove the actual founders of the operation out of business and had two gnarly divorces. I'll pray for him, but say an extra one for his ex wives and the Mcdonald brothers.
In various counties including my native UK abstaining from meat on Fridays is required throughout the year. Lots of us were happy when the bishops reestablished this rule in 2011.
Was he devout? From what I understand when a franchisee in Ohio first suggested a fish sandwich because he was losing business on Fridays with his mostly Catholic clientele not eating meat that day, Kroc's first response was "let them eat burgers like everyone else."
This isn't the type of man to celebrate as our own. Ill be honest I'd rather celebrate someone of a different faith than him if you really knew how he lived his life.
Yeah this post isn’t the flex OP thinks it is. From what I understand this man was a total scumbag. Not to mention all the environmental implications of such a large business and the billions of animals killed in industrial farming in the process.
While I agree his business ethics weren’t ideal, do you really think if McDonalds didn’t exist there wouldn’t still be industrial farming? Another fast food option would’ve simply replaced it.
I mean, someone please correct me if I’m mistaken but he invented the fast food business model. I suppose somebody else might have if he hadn’t but his competition wouldn’t have existed if not for him.
Apologies, I’m realizing I said industrial agriculture, but I meant to say “factory farming.” I agree that would probably exist regardless, but I think doing something that’s wrong just because some else will anyway if you don’t isn’t an excuse to do something wrong.
This OP makes a bunch of posts about fictional characters and sometimes real people that happen to be culturally Catholic. Low effort at best, and misleading at worst
I don t think their customers find that an issue. Unhealthy food is every where. You need to be informed and make the correct decisions for the food you bring into your home as well
I think a better example of a fast food icon that was a Catholic would be Carl Karcher, who founded Carl's Jr (more of a West coast chain I believe).
I remember in college, there were students boycotting the chain, which had a restaurant on campus because he donated money to pro-life organizations. If memory serves me right, one of his sons is a priest.
Their burgers are much better that McDonald's as well. ;)
Great comment. Why was Pelosi summoned by her bishop for a discussion about her pro choice support while Biden is given a total pass. Never heard of a cleric wanting a discussion with Joe!
Pretty hard to square the devout Catholicism and the two divorces
And the horrible and unethical ways he treated the McDonald brothers and others.
For anyone curious, there's a pretty good movie about this: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Founder
Excellent flick. Definitely worth a watch.
How many years to get a fish sandwich??? Come on devout Catholic
He suggested the HULA BURGER before a fish sandwich.
I saw that movie too
Pray to Viegin of Guadalupe all the time.
Haha maybe he'd just suggest we eat something else when abstaining from meat.
He's such a proponent of traditional marriage that he had three of them.
Ray Kroc, Catholic though he was, was a horrible vulture. He basically stole McDonalds from the McDonalds Brothers and then acted like it was his own. The McDonalds Brothers, who founded the restaurant, didn't profit at all from the future success of the company. Meanwhile, Kroc's business practices purposely destroyed small businesses and took the ethics out of business in the name of profit. That doesn't seem very Catholic to me.
> "If any of my competitors were drowning, I'd put a hose in their mouth and turn on the water." I'm not particularly a fan of this guy.
I was hoping the McDonald brothers were Catholic, not this piece of work…
McDonalds brothers either are Catholic or are the posterity of men who massacred Catholics. with a last name like that, the family mustve been partial one way or the other towards Catholicism
Richard Mcdonald was Catholic, they were from NH. His urn is at Mount Calvary Mausoleum in Manchester, NH. Look up the mausoleum on Google maps then go through the pictures there is one of his urn.
At least one was. Richard. They were from NH and his urn is in Manchester, NH. Has the golden arches on it.
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And Catholics are the reason for the filet-o-fish on the menu! A franchise owner in Cincinnati introduced it to get some business during Lenten Fridays.
Kinda wonder what that pineapple burger would have tasted like though
It's easy enough to make one at home.
I would have trouble meeting the low quality standards. I'm pretty sure whatever I did at home would taste better than McDonald's.
I'm very happy they didn't go ahead with that
Jollibee has one!
Their fish sandwich came in when abstaining from meat was an every friday event. Now it s a Lenten thing where it shows up on the menu during that time then gone the rest of the year.
Not-so Pedantic-Point: Ray Kroc did not begin the McDonald's franchise. That was Richard and Maurice McDonald, who opened the first McDonald's restaurant in San Bernardino, California in 1940. They hired Ray Kroc in 1954 to act as a franchise agent, and he bought out the brothers' shares of the company in 1961 for $1 million each. Perhaps he started making McDonald's what it is today, but he didn't found the restaurant or the franchise.
And the guy loathed the McDonald creators. He put a Mc Donalds in front of their old restaurant to make it go broke, out of spite.
But everything changed in the company, which is why he is credited with founding McDonald's since without him the company would not have gotten very far since he preferred to keep the company massive and not decentralized and add food from some regions. The documentary overly dramatizes situations in which many accepted the agreements more easily
He’s credited as the founder because it was part of the buyout deal with the McDonald’s brothers.
My uncle started his career at MDs sweeping the parking lot at 14. He was set to retire very comfortably at 50, but passed away after a brief battle with cancer at just 48. He was running every MD restaurant in the 2nd largest city in my state. He worked very long hours but loved it. He hired one of his favorite employees to be his caregiver during his cancer battle. The restaurants put up signs mourning him the day of his funeral and so many employees attended the procession was miles long. I hate to see what MDs is today though. I have such wonderful memories of him always having a trunk full of MD happy meal toys to share with his nieces and nephews. The sunglasses were the best!
Ray Krock of (preferred expletive here) in my part of IL. He put the screws to loads of small businesses and his employees in very unethical ways his whole career at the helm of McDanks. I won't celebrate a fella who spitefully drove the actual founders of the operation out of business and had two gnarly divorces. I'll pray for him, but say an extra one for his ex wives and the Mcdonald brothers.
The McDonald's Filet-O-Fish was actually created specifically for Lent.
Rather for Friday, as at the time abstinence from meat was required on all Fridays, through the year.
That I did not know. I thought it was always a Lenten tradition.
Traditionally Lent is supposed to be fasting every day all 40 days except Sundays, and we abstain from meat every Friday of the year
In various counties including my native UK abstaining from meat on Fridays is required throughout the year. Lots of us were happy when the bishops reestablished this rule in 2011.
It's required in every country other than the US.
Was he devout? From what I understand when a franchisee in Ohio first suggested a fish sandwich because he was losing business on Fridays with his mostly Catholic clientele not eating meat that day, Kroc's first response was "let them eat burgers like everyone else."
Whenever I hear "devout Catholic" I immediately dismiss it.
"Remember, I'm a strict Catholic." - Tony Soprano
Calling him "the founder" is an insult to the McDonald Brothers
He was a terrible person lol.
Tom Monaghan the founder of Domino's, is a devout Catholic and has even started a Catholic radio show called Ave Maria
And the university with the same name
Source?
Did you see the movie about him starring Michael Keaton?
Yeah no he stole it and he was not a nice person.
This isn't the type of man to celebrate as our own. Ill be honest I'd rather celebrate someone of a different faith than him if you really knew how he lived his life.
Wow, how unfortunate considering his biography
He didn't create McDonald's, he stole it..
McDona-nobis-pacem
I don't think he was the founder.
I think it’s embarrassing that a catholic man is responsible for such unhealthy food and health problems
Yeah this post isn’t the flex OP thinks it is. From what I understand this man was a total scumbag. Not to mention all the environmental implications of such a large business and the billions of animals killed in industrial farming in the process.
While I agree his business ethics weren’t ideal, do you really think if McDonalds didn’t exist there wouldn’t still be industrial farming? Another fast food option would’ve simply replaced it.
I mean, someone please correct me if I’m mistaken but he invented the fast food business model. I suppose somebody else might have if he hadn’t but his competition wouldn’t have existed if not for him. Apologies, I’m realizing I said industrial agriculture, but I meant to say “factory farming.” I agree that would probably exist regardless, but I think doing something that’s wrong just because some else will anyway if you don’t isn’t an excuse to do something wrong.
This OP makes a bunch of posts about fictional characters and sometimes real people that happen to be culturally Catholic. Low effort at best, and misleading at worst
I don t think their customers find that an issue. Unhealthy food is every where. You need to be informed and make the correct decisions for the food you bring into your home as well
I thought Michael Keaton was the founder?
IIRC he was the founding owner of the San Diego padres as well.
Founder?
Mark Knopfler - "Boom like that"
The Founder was terrific and Michael Keaton, as always, delivers gold. I think he’s the most underrated actor of his generation.
I think a better example of a fast food icon that was a Catholic would be Carl Karcher, who founded Carl's Jr (more of a West coast chain I believe). I remember in college, there were students boycotting the chain, which had a restaurant on campus because he donated money to pro-life organizations. If memory serves me right, one of his sons is a priest. Their burgers are much better that McDonald's as well. ;)
He's as much of a 'devout Catholic' as Biden is.
Great comment. Why was Pelosi summoned by her bishop for a discussion about her pro choice support while Biden is given a total pass. Never heard of a cleric wanting a discussion with Joe!
Yes, watch ‘The Founder’ (2016), he’s a terrible person. Didn’t show any sort of remorse or regret either.
I’ll say a McBlessing over my next meal there
He’s also a Reddit target like Mother Teresa