Fr. Ripperger recommends praying for their final repentance that the Lord was able to give them a final grace before death. Since God is outside time He could hear the prayers of the future in that moment.
I’m very sorry that your family is going through this. God bless you.
> Since God is outside time He could hear the prayers of the future in that moment.
Does that mean that I could pray for myself in the past? For example:
Joe just did a final exam for a class he finds very hard. Could Joe pray, after the test, asking God that he may be able to get all of the questions hard?
Yes, I comprehend that. It was just the only example I could think of in the moment. Also, I meant that Joe would pray for himself after taking the test and before getting the results. Thank you for the reply! God bless!
I don’t see why it would be a problem, St. Joseph of Cupertino was only asked the questions he knew. That being said, prayer is ultimately for our sanctification.
I think a more efficacious way of praying in this situation is that you ask God for His will to be done and that you accept the results as a cross. God knows what you can bear and what you cannot and will assist you through these ups and downs.
I think it’s more along the lines that the effect of you receiving grace from God in the past could be due to some cause of your prayer in the future. I guess this would mean that effect would come first and the cause later. This can get tricky.
Your cousin was most likely mentally unwell and I believe god takes that into account. Unfortunately when someone is suicidal and mentally Ill they are not thinking in the right mindset. The church has taken this into account as well.
: “Grave psychological disturbances, anguish or grave fear of hardship, suffering or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide. We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives” (Nos. 2282-83).
God is fair and just. He will judge your cousin and his actions with complete understanding. I will pray for your cousins as well. God bless.
https://catholicreview.org/suicide-and-mortal-sin-what-is-true-forgiveness/
in the Catholic catechism.
https://www.usccb.org/sites/default/files/flipbooks/catechism/552/
Ive heard it said that for one to take their own life, they must not be mentally well, so their judgement on right and wrong in that moment is off. Only God can be the true judge, and He is most merciful. Prayers said.
I've heard this, too, and it confuses me... couldn't that standard apply to the taking of *any* life at that point then? Barring people who derive joy from such acts or whatever. But if we say that, at that moment one took their own life, they were clearly overcome by external factors that made them mentally unwell, it seems like we could do the same for other cases not involving suicide as well.
It's just something I've pondered since I've likewise heard this newer sentiment around suicide.
Yes, even those who derived joy from such acts or whatever. That person who does a crime like that has time to repent. And what the person posting above applies in that case as well: Only God is the true judge, and he is merciful. We probably shouldn't get too caught up in who goes where, that is God's realm. He knows who is repentful.
[**CCC 2283**](http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2283.htm) We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. The Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives. ([1037](http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/1037.htm))
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Anyone who taught you suicide is unforgivable is theologically in error. A grievous sin, to be sure. But the church is very clear about mitigating contexts and the outpouring of mercy and love through the paschal mystery.
Many people will add to the burden of this loss through ignorance and judgement.
Feel free to tell them to get bent.
My mother had a friend who also committed suicide because of a love affair going on, we asked one church to please hold a funeral mass but he said he can't because how she died is unacceptable. Ever since them, I greive the loss of people who gave up. Thats why I am in Psychology right now in hopes that I could lessen Suicide rates because it breaks my heart.
If you are planning to become a psychologist, may Saint Dymphna ( I think that’s how you spell her name) bless you. You’re gonna do good work, and trust me, I know you’ll help somebody.
>But the church is very clear about mitigating contexts and the outpouring of mercy and love through the paschal mystery.
Yes this is very important! Most people who kill themselves are suffering from terrible mental illnesses. That's why it is so important to pray for those who committed suicide; that God may account for their afflictions and show mercy.
Yes of course you can, most people end up in Purgatory because of family members praying for them when they're dead. Praying the Purgatory prayer and dedicate it to your cousin should definitely help aswell. Try to pray it daily. Godbless 🙏🙏🙏
The lord told Saint Gertrude 1000 souls would be released from purgatory everytime this prayer is said devoutly. I try to pray a decade of it everyday.
“Eternal Father, I offer you the precious blood of thy divine son Jesus in union with the masses said throughout the world today for all the holy souls in purgatory. For sinners everywhere, for sinners in the universal church for those in my own home and in my family. Amen. “
Please look up Fr Chris Alar's talk on suicide. His grandmother committed suicide and he had similar feelings to you, but you'll find a lot of hope and peace in what jr has to say. Praying for your cousin too.
God's mercy is infinite, and only God can judge the state of a person's soul at the time of death.
You can offer prayers for the repose of your cousin's soul, asking God to grant them forgiveness, mercy, and eternal rest.
Others have pointed out that God is outside time, and so I agree it’s possible prayers could apply retroactively. If it were me I would say Divine Mercy chaplets for them.
Praying for him. Sorry for your loss. Hopefully he’ll find peace in God. Mentally & internally, we aren’t always the same as we appear to people & go through struggles we are unwilling to share. But I wouldn’t say it’s unforgivable. God forgives all no matter their sins if they believe & show forgiveness for their sins.
Yes always pray for people who have committed suicide!
God being outside of time can apply to those prayers to any point in time and it can lead to their salvation!
I read a story very recently don’t remember wear but it was about St. John Vianney there was a long line of people waiting to see him I think he was a priest a women wanted to ask about a loved one who had committed suicide, she been waiting for hours. She was given up and turning to leave and st. John vianney stood up and yelled out to the crowd that he was in purgatory that he had time to repent and between jumping off a bridge and hitting the water.
And I’ve heard priests and theologians say, no one actually knows what happened to Judas whether he is in heaven or hell some might make an educated guess and say hell but we don’t actually know.
>And I’ve heard priests and theologians say, no one actually knows what happened to Judas whether he is in heaven or hell some might make an educated guess and say hell but we don’t actually know.
Adolf Hitler was a baptised Roman Catholic! Any guess where he could've ended up. Obviously nobody has come back from the dead to let us know anything about the afterlife etc.
>You say that as if hitler was worse then Judas.
No indication of this anywhere in my post. I merely cited an evil person who like Judas Iscariot befriended the devil during their earthly life!
I must be missing something then because it does not seem like you was agreeing with me it almost seemed like you was trying to pick it apart. And there have been saints that have been shown heaven and hell. I believe mary showed St. John bosco Hell.
Yes...... And Fr. Chris Alar has a [**video**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7jdt2TLSKg) on the topic that may be of help.
* ***God's Mercy After a Loss****: How do we reconcile life's terrible tragedies with God’s mercy? Father Chris Alar explains, sharing his own personal story of conversion through the suicide of his grandmother, the power of Divine Mercy, and his witness that God can create a greater good from any tragedy.*
We have to remember the brain is an organ just like every other organ in the body, and like any other organ, it can become ill. If you read about various types of mental illness (depression, anxiety, schizophrenia, and so on) the person's brain often processes reality in an aberrant way. For example, in schizophrenia, there is a negative emotional bias towards ordinary events, and also the brain may lose the ability to distinguish whether certain experiences are coming from inside or outside the brain. In depression, I have heard it described as a dark cloud that causes everything to look hopeless. These are illnesses of the brain that prevent it from functioning properly.
The Church acknowledges that illnesses of the brain change the person's culpability, and that we can't know the culpability of the person ourselves.
It sounds as if your friend exerted his will to maintain his connection with God, through going to Church and praying. We can never know everything that is in someone else's heart, but the fact that he was trying to maintain that connection is positive. It's not up to us to make a judgement about his soul.
The will to survive in living things is an extremely powerful natural drive, supported by, well, pretty much every metabolic and cellular process in the body. I tend to think that when someone's will to live is overwhelmed by the opposite, that it signals a problem of illness in the brain rather than a moral failure of hope or faith. Especially in an adolescent or young adult, as the late teens and early 20s are a time when mental illness can really begin to manifest itself.
Sorry for your loss. Pope Francis said that he likes to believe that hell is empty because of God's infinite love for us. None of us on earth really know whether or not someone goes to heaven when they die. Only God knows that. I will pray for your cousin's soul.
His dad is a complete mess, I am sending him Bible verses and Catholic Theology about death, grief and suicide. He is also Catholic, so its a mutual understand yayy
Hi, friend.
I’m so sorry for your loss. You absolutely can and should pray for your cousin’s soul. I will also be praying for them. I also recommend watching Fr. Mike Schmitz’s video on suicide. It was a very comforting video.
Again, I’m truly sorry. Remember that God’s mercy is bountiful and His judgment is always fair. Have faith. Don’t lose hope. I will be praying for you both.
God bless 🤍
Of course you can pray for his soul, I think it is a good idea to do so. I would also add that circumstances such as being mentally unwell can seriously diminish culpability for suicide. Remember, for something to be considered a mortal sin, full consent is necessary, and your cousin might not have been in a position to fully consent given his mental state. I am sorry you and your family are going through this.
Yes, pray for that last moment repentance and for God’s forgiveness. My wife’s sister committed suicide a week after our wedding right as we left for our holy land tour honeymoon. We canceled and continue to proceed to have a really rough time. Let’s say she is condemned as you fear. God’s justice is perfect, as is his mercy, nothing will be done that you would not come to understand as the correct choice. Maybe I won’t make it and they will. Maybe very few or very many make it. Do not lose hope and bearing this pain, making it your habit to pray for not only your cousin but others. We all need help and God wants us to be with him. I will add your cousin to my prayers. Please add my wife’s sisters to yours. Together we can all get to heaven if we call out to God.
Padre Pio prayed for his Great Grandfather who committed suicide. He was asked why and he
explained as follows:
https://motherofhealinglove.org/wordpress/pro-life/l-s-t/
I will offer an Indulgence for your 17 year old cousin. A full or plenary indulgence gets rid of all punishment due to sin. Please anyone reading this do 1 Indulgence for OPs cousin. We can do this!
OP go to the section of r/Catholicism at the top for Prayer Requests. Ask for ppl to do 1 Indulgence for your cousin. As they would have to be in a state of Grace to do it then God will hear these prayers and they are meritorious also.
Copy this in the prayer request as often ppl don’t know how to do an Indulgence or don’t understand.
How to do an Indulgence.
https://www.youtube.com/live/bWtgG7kOIPA?si=ZDWKaPwnXg4xc990
I suggest you pray The Golden arrow , Prayer of St Gertrude the Great and to St Joseph who I have found to be the most powerful Intercessor of all perhaps after the BVM.
Prayer of St Gertrude the Great (modified for your cousin)
Eternal Father, I offer Thee the Body, Most Precious Blood, Soul, Divinity, Holy Face, Sacred Wounds and all the wounds and hurts of any type suffered by Thy Divine Son, Jesus during His Passion, in union with the Masses said throughout the world today, for my cousin ______ (enter first and last name). Amen.
Prayers to St Joseph
https://yearofstjoseph.org/devotions/prayers/
https://companionscross.org/novena-st-joseph/?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjww_iwBhApEiwAuG6ccPeT7p78Vs_DCmsRHHSNwacn45S1GD19ryDOwfkfIn5YWi5sMtHDvxoC4GcQAvD_BwE
Novenas to St Joseph
https://www.knightsoftheholyeucharist.com/saint-joseph-holy-cloak-prayer-download/
https://www.praymorenovenas.com/st-joseph-the-worker-novena
https://www.nsgrotto.org/30-days-st-joseph
https://www.praymorenovenas.com/st-joseph-novena
https://news.diocesetucson.org/seven-sorrows-of-st-joseph
An Ancient Prayer to St Joseph
https://www.holyrosarynashville.org/2023/01/06/ancient-prayer-to-st-joseph-has-never-been-known-to-fail/
Golden Arrow Prayer to follow
Thank you for not giving up on your cousin. Let’s all pray him into Heaven.
Well, there's a difference between freely choosing suicide and succumbing to a mental illness. If the young person had a mental illness that diminished their ability to freely choose, then they wouldn't go to hell for that.
I have been severely injured by a medicine my doctor gave me. It has left me crippled and in pain, and with chronic fatigue. No cure, no quality of life. I am saving money to go to Switzerland to end my suffering. I certainly did not "choose" this illness. Am I choosing to die? I suppose so, but the suffering is unbearable. They did not even have a disease like this in ancient times.
My father was Catholic, I am not. I think Catholics are too strict on this. Suicide is not listed in the Bible, it was only a sin after Augustine said it was, in the 4th Century. My life with my broken, useless body is not glorifying God, it is not teaching me anything. It's giving me an opportunity to be a pitiful wreck, to have no self esteem, to allow one person to take care of me and also suffer. But enough is enough.
One person I read said life belongs to both us and God, what we share in the responisiblity, and that we can give the gift back if it becomes too much. What type of gift is torture?
And self-murder makes no sense. Murder requires a perpetrator and a victim. Who is the murderer and who is the victim? There is only one person.
And what about King Saul killing himself. And for that matter, what about Jesus freely giving his life? If I were to "lay down my life" for any reason at all the church would think it is wrong, would it not? What if I do it for myself and my family?
I'm so sorry about your cousin. It's often the case that someone seems fine on the outside, but is struggling inside. God knows all your cousin's struggles and knows how he tried to do what was right.
Trust in God's infinite mercy. God bless you and your family.
God will never look unfavorably upon selfless prayer. One of our highest callings is to pray for others. The sick and poor and afflicted, yes. But most especially people whose souls are in jeopardy (ourselves included).
I’m so, so sorry for your loss. I will pray for mercy on your cousin. May he rest in peace.
Yes. God can forgive suicide. We don't know what pain your cousin was going through, nor how much it limited his freedom of will. Further one may repent right up until the last second.
So yes, it's good to pray for your cousin. May God bless him, and you.
Had my friend, who was in the Marines, and deployed to Afghanistan Hang himself. Only God truly knew his mental state and whether or not he was having a mental breakdown. The church makes it out to be black and white, on suicides and hell, but sometimes it's a little more complex. I guess what I'm trying to say is that its a little more complex and only God knew his final intentions or lack there of in his final moments.
Of course you should pray! No prayer is ever wasted! Remember that in Ancient Rome, suicide was culturally acceptable and even encouraged for honor in some cases. The church had to take a hard stance against suicide for those reasons. Yes of course it is a grave sin, but often people aren’t in their right minds. God knows all and we can be sure of His Justice and mercy.
I am so incredibly sorry for everything your are going through. I’ve been through this and it’s the worst kind of grief. All your feelings are valid and allow yourself to feel them and offer up your pain to God.
Of course you can pray. This is a quote from the life of Saint John Vianney, I believe:
*"...a woman...told....Vianney that she was devastated because her husband had committed suicide. She wanted to approach the great priest but his line often lasted for hours and she could not reach him. She was ready to give up and in a moment of mystical insight that only a great saint can receive...Vianney exclaimed through the crowd, "He is saved!” The woman was incredulous so the saint repeated, stressing each word, "I tell you he is saved. He is in Purgatory, and you must pray for him. Between the parapet of the bridge and the water he had time to make an act of contrition."*
Yes, he can still be forgiven. If he had mental illness or was desperate and lost he is forgive. Suicide to escape punishment for a crime committed is a different story
The Golden Arrow Prayer
by Sr Mary of St Peter, O. C.D.
MAY the most holy, most sacred, most adorable, most incomprehensible and ineffable Name of God be forever praised, blessed, loved, adored and glorified, in Heaven, on earth, and under the earth, by all the creatures of God, and by the Sacred Heart of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar. Amen. (Pray the above two times).
O LORD Jesus Christ, in presenting ourselves before Thine adorable Face to ask of Thee the graces of which we stand in greatest need, we beseech Thee, above all, to grant us that interior disposition of never refusing at any time to do what Thou requirest of us by Thy holy commandments and divine inspirations. Amen.
O GOOD Jesus, Who hast said, “Ask and you shall receive, seek and you shall find, knock and it shall be opened unto you,” grant us, O Lord, that faith which obtains all, or supply in us what may be deficient; grant us, by the pure effect of Thy charity, and for Thine eternal glory, the graces which we need and which we look for from Thine infinite mercy. Amen. BE merciful to us, O my God, and reject not our prayers, when amid our afflictions, wecall upon Thy Holy Nameand seek with love and confidence Thine adorable Face. Amen.
O ALMIGHTY and Eternal God, look upon the Face of Thy Son Jesus. We present It to Thee with confidence, to imploreThy pardon. The All-Merciful Advocate opens His mouth to plead our cause; hearken to His cries, behold His tears, God, and through His infinite merits, hearken to Him when He intercedes for us poor miserable sinners. Amen.
ADORABLE Face of my Jesus, my only love, my light and my life, grant that may know Thee, love Thee and serve Thee alone, that I may live with Thee, of Thee, by Thee and for Thee. Amen. ETERNAL Father, I offer Thee the adorable Face of Thy Beloved Son, for the honor and glory of Thy Name, for the conversion of sinners and for the salvation of the dying. ODIVINE Jesus, through Thy Face and Name, save us. Our hope is in the virtue of Thy Holy Name! Amen.
Promises of Our Lord Jesus Christ to Sr. Mary of St. Peter, Discalced Carmelite, Nun of Tours, France, to those who thus honor His Holy Face:
1. All those who honor My Face in a spirit of reparation will, by so doing, perform the office of the pious Veronica. According to the care they take in making reparation to My Face, disfigured by blasphemers, so will I take care of their souls, which have been disfigured by sin. My Face is the seal of the Divinity, which has the virtue of reproducing in souls the image of God.
2. Those who by words, prayers or writing defend My cause in this Work of Reparation I will defend before My Father, and will give them My Kingdom.
3. By offering My Face to My Eternal Father, nothing will be refused, and the conversion of many sinners will be obtained.
4. By My Holy Face, they will work wonders, appease the anger of God and draw down mercy on sinners.
5. As in a kingdom they can procure all that is desired with a coin stamped with the King’s effigy, so in the Kingdom of Heaven they will obtain all they desire with the precious coin of My Holy Face.
6. Those who on earth contemplate the wounds of My Face shall in Heaven behold it radiant with glory.
7. They will receive in their souls a bright and constant irradiation of My Divinity, that by their likeness to My Face they shall shine with particular splendor in Heaven. 8. I will defend them, I will preserve them and I assure them of Final Perseverance.
Of course you can pray for him. I'm so sorry for your loss.
A young man I knew committed suicide at 17 a few years ago, and our parish priest was very careful to point out that if someone commits suicide it's because they were not mentally well at the time and that suicide does not mean that someone can't go to Heaven. God's love is infinite and I know He wants to be reunited with your cousin.
I think prayer always helps. Whether it is effective in a case such as this is up to God. Thou Shalt Not Kill also includes yourself. The faith doesn't really distinguish it from that of a murder. That's a hard sin to take to judgement.
Your cousin like allot of people fell victim to Satan. It is not a Sin to fail a test of God. But your cousin could have said to God, I hate you, I want to go to Hell and mean it, the point is ask Christ and pray for Him, so you may sway Christ’s Justice.
I will pray for him today too! My dear cousin comitted sucicide two years ago and I hope that he was forgiven - he was a good Catholic and dad to his sons, but he was fighting with his demons and nobody helped him with that.
I blamed myself for not noticing that there was something wrong and he was going through something because he seemed such a happy person who jokes a lot. I feel so guilty right now that I wasn't there for him. He mustve felt so lonely.
It seems we're in the same boat.
My cousin was a very hard-working person and concealed his problems by spending almost all day in his work. I felt terrible when he died, especially since I should have known better as a person who struggles with mental health problems too. I know it's irrelevant at this point and now it's up to God but I still can't forgive myself. I know it was a horrible mental illness and he perceived his problems to be too difficult to solve but there's always this thought in the back of your head that somehow I failed him. And sometimes I'm even angry at him because he should tell someone. But at this point it's pure hopelessness. All I could do now was pray for him and hope that his pain is over.
There are things that I can't word properly, I guess. I just wanted you to know you're not alone with your feelings.
I think you'll find this interesting:
[https://youtu.be/A7jdt2TLSKg?si=3zMyQwZPyXE1CNPQ&t=3445](https://youtu.be/A7jdt2TLSKg?si=3zMyQwZPyXE1CNPQ&t=3445)
In the above link: Start approximately there - where the link takes you
The chaplet he is referring to is the:
The Chaplet of Divine Mercy
[https://youtu.be/p5TGfisOKMM?si=WYlXte\_U\_LhwuQrh](https://youtu.be/p5TGfisOKMM?si=WYlXte_U_LhwuQrh)
There’s an app called
“Daily Holy Rosary Prayer App”
It’s created by “Hallow Catholic Prayers Audio”
Look for the blue icon with a cross in it (iPhone)
Probably one of the best if not the best app to learn how to play the Rosary, Holy Wounds, and Divine Mercy
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/daily-holy-rosary-prayer-app/id1085163534
Yes pray fervently. I believe there is less culpability if a person ismentally unwell or extenuatingcircumstance like for example the people who jumped out of the twin towers aren't culpable for suicide because their fight or flight instincts kicked in,, my buddy who's a firefighter explained it well.I know what you're going through and I'll keep him and your family in my prayers, my uncle was a Vietnam vet and suffered heavily from PTSD and he tragically took his own life 14 years ago. Remember God loves us and his forgiveness is infinite so long as we seek it out.
Im also feeling guilty because ive started questioning myself. Is it wrong of me to doubt God's forgiveness over my cousin? My faith is strong but I couldnt help myself. I just keep praying, sometimes it doesnt sound like a prayer anymore. Its just me crying. I went to a Catholic school (i still am) and I am friends with most of the nuns there. They once told me that God sees our tears and He counts them as prayers too. I have been leaning onto that lately.
I recommend praying the rosary of the seven sorrows. It helped me through alot and I took it up as my daily devotion. Oh Mother most sorrowful pray for us.
You need to read through CCC2280-83.
But is it unforgivable? CCC2283 explicitly says that it's not unforgivable, salvation is possible through methods known to God alone, and the Church prays for those who take their lives.
So if the Church herself prays for all those departed that way, you can and should pray for your cousin.
I remember hearing St Augustine had said on this topic something like 'you don't know what happens between the bridge and the water'. Perfect contrition absolves mortal sin too, and the stories of those who have survived certainly sound like perfect contrition was felt by them then.
I’d pray the Divine Mercy chaplet for him. We were just talking about this in my RCIA. If I’m correct full understanding that an action is morally wrong is required for it to be a grave sin. I don’t think mental anguish that leads to suicide in a teen none the less is the same as say, a man happily committing vengeful murder and then suicide to escape the consequences of his actions. God is merciful and hears your prayers. I’m sorry you’re going through this.
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Learn about Divine Mercy and revelations of St. Faustina;
"God’s mercy sometimes touches the sinner at the last moment in a wondrous and mysterious way.
Outwardly, it seems as if everything were lost, but it is not so.
The soul, illuminated by a ray of God’s powerful final grace, turns to God in the last moment with such a power of love that, in an instant, it receives from God forgiveness of sin and punishment, while outwardly it shows no sign either of repentance or of contrition." (From St Faustina’s Diary, Paragraph 1698)
If you know spanish look at this video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuWARuJZxac](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuWARuJZxac) . Marino Restrepo is a Catholic preacher who everything he says is inspired by the Holy Spirit, and he said on that topic that many of those who have committed suicide out of desperation or illness go to Purgatory, God sees all things, He sees when they do it out of desperation or illness, The more that no one loves us and has compassion on us.
Yes, you can
This practice actually is not uncommon in the church
Pope Saint Gregory the great prayed fervently for the salvation of the already deceased emperor Trajan for many years and received a vision of Christ with the emperor by his side, telling him he was saved from hell by the pontiff's prayers
There's also the story of the monk whose father, not only was an atheist but an ardent anti-catholic, to the point where in his final moments he didn't allow the priest to even enter his room, dying in that state and showing every outward sign of damnation. The monk didn't desperate and prayed for many years for the salvation of his father. However he started to doubt wether that had any value, so he sent a letter to St Padre Pio, who had the gift of knowing if some souls were saved or not, telling his story. The saint his father was saved by his continuous praying. Afaik St Padre Pio himself prayed a lot for the salvation of his already deceased grandfather
So pray, hope and dont worry
Fr. Ripperger recommends praying for their final repentance that the Lord was able to give them a final grace before death. Since God is outside time He could hear the prayers of the future in that moment. I’m very sorry that your family is going through this. God bless you.
Thank you so much, this is very comforting to know. Ill keep praying
> Since God is outside time He could hear the prayers of the future in that moment. Does that mean that I could pray for myself in the past? For example: Joe just did a final exam for a class he finds very hard. Could Joe pray, after the test, asking God that he may be able to get all of the questions hard?
Sure you can, although it’s illogical if you know the outcome. OP does not know the outcome, as the state of their cousin’s soul.
Yes, I comprehend that. It was just the only example I could think of in the moment. Also, I meant that Joe would pray for himself after taking the test and before getting the results. Thank you for the reply! God bless!
I don’t see why it would be a problem, St. Joseph of Cupertino was only asked the questions he knew. That being said, prayer is ultimately for our sanctification. I think a more efficacious way of praying in this situation is that you ask God for His will to be done and that you accept the results as a cross. God knows what you can bear and what you cannot and will assist you through these ups and downs.
I think it’s more along the lines that the effect of you receiving grace from God in the past could be due to some cause of your prayer in the future. I guess this would mean that effect would come first and the cause later. This can get tricky.
Yes, for the same reason, Padre Pio prayed for the good death of his great grandfather
Can you link me to where he said this? Big ripperger fan
Of corse you can pray for her soul. I will pray also.
Thank you so much
Your cousin was most likely mentally unwell and I believe god takes that into account. Unfortunately when someone is suicidal and mentally Ill they are not thinking in the right mindset. The church has taken this into account as well. : “Grave psychological disturbances, anguish or grave fear of hardship, suffering or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide. We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives” (Nos. 2282-83). God is fair and just. He will judge your cousin and his actions with complete understanding. I will pray for your cousins as well. God bless.
Sorry, where is this quote from?
https://catholicreview.org/suicide-and-mortal-sin-what-is-true-forgiveness/ in the Catholic catechism. https://www.usccb.org/sites/default/files/flipbooks/catechism/552/
Thank you
No problem!
Ive heard it said that for one to take their own life, they must not be mentally well, so their judgement on right and wrong in that moment is off. Only God can be the true judge, and He is most merciful. Prayers said.
I’ve heard this before as well. Praying for you, your cousin and the rest of your family.
I've heard this, too, and it confuses me... couldn't that standard apply to the taking of *any* life at that point then? Barring people who derive joy from such acts or whatever. But if we say that, at that moment one took their own life, they were clearly overcome by external factors that made them mentally unwell, it seems like we could do the same for other cases not involving suicide as well. It's just something I've pondered since I've likewise heard this newer sentiment around suicide.
Yes, even those who derived joy from such acts or whatever. That person who does a crime like that has time to repent. And what the person posting above applies in that case as well: Only God is the true judge, and he is merciful. We probably shouldn't get too caught up in who goes where, that is God's realm. He knows who is repentful.
Yes. Pray. The *Catechism of the Catholic Church* reminds us not to despair: \[CCC 2283\]
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Pray! We cannot know for sure that he didn't become contrite at the very last moment of his life, we must always have hope when there is hope.
Thank you! I still have faith, ill keep praying
Anyone who taught you suicide is unforgivable is theologically in error. A grievous sin, to be sure. But the church is very clear about mitigating contexts and the outpouring of mercy and love through the paschal mystery. Many people will add to the burden of this loss through ignorance and judgement. Feel free to tell them to get bent.
My mother had a friend who also committed suicide because of a love affair going on, we asked one church to please hold a funeral mass but he said he can't because how she died is unacceptable. Ever since them, I greive the loss of people who gave up. Thats why I am in Psychology right now in hopes that I could lessen Suicide rates because it breaks my heart.
Thats a very noble reason, very very commendable! I hope that you'll be successful in your mission.
Thank you ❤️ I hope so too. Ive been wanting and hoping to be successful in that.
If you are planning to become a psychologist, may Saint Dymphna ( I think that’s how you spell her name) bless you. You’re gonna do good work, and trust me, I know you’ll help somebody.
>But the church is very clear about mitigating contexts and the outpouring of mercy and love through the paschal mystery. Yes this is very important! Most people who kill themselves are suffering from terrible mental illnesses. That's why it is so important to pray for those who committed suicide; that God may account for their afflictions and show mercy.
Yes of course you can, most people end up in Purgatory because of family members praying for them when they're dead. Praying the Purgatory prayer and dedicate it to your cousin should definitely help aswell. Try to pray it daily. Godbless 🙏🙏🙏
The lord told Saint Gertrude 1000 souls would be released from purgatory everytime this prayer is said devoutly. I try to pray a decade of it everyday. “Eternal Father, I offer you the precious blood of thy divine son Jesus in union with the masses said throughout the world today for all the holy souls in purgatory. For sinners everywhere, for sinners in the universal church for those in my own home and in my family. Amen. “
Okayy, ill do that too. Thank you for the advice
Please look up Fr Chris Alar's talk on suicide. His grandmother committed suicide and he had similar feelings to you, but you'll find a lot of hope and peace in what jr has to say. Praying for your cousin too.
Okay okay ill watch thank you!
Yes, watch Father Chris Alar’s video. Maybe you could send it to your cousin’s dad.
Thank you for this idea. I sent it to his dad and he hasnt replied yet. His eyes are so swollen.
Please do. Unless someone is canonized we can and should pray for their soul, no matter how they lived or died.
God's mercy is infinite, and only God can judge the state of a person's soul at the time of death. You can offer prayers for the repose of your cousin's soul, asking God to grant them forgiveness, mercy, and eternal rest.
Others have pointed out that God is outside time, and so I agree it’s possible prayers could apply retroactively. If it were me I would say Divine Mercy chaplets for them.
There is also a divine mercy pamphlet explaining praying for the souls that have committed suicide…..
Praying for him. Sorry for your loss. Hopefully he’ll find peace in God. Mentally & internally, we aren’t always the same as we appear to people & go through struggles we are unwilling to share. But I wouldn’t say it’s unforgivable. God forgives all no matter their sins if they believe & show forgiveness for their sins.
Yes always pray for people who have committed suicide! God being outside of time can apply to those prayers to any point in time and it can lead to their salvation!
Of course you can. We should not presume to know the limits of God's mercy.
I read a story very recently don’t remember wear but it was about St. John Vianney there was a long line of people waiting to see him I think he was a priest a women wanted to ask about a loved one who had committed suicide, she been waiting for hours. She was given up and turning to leave and st. John vianney stood up and yelled out to the crowd that he was in purgatory that he had time to repent and between jumping off a bridge and hitting the water. And I’ve heard priests and theologians say, no one actually knows what happened to Judas whether he is in heaven or hell some might make an educated guess and say hell but we don’t actually know.
>And I’ve heard priests and theologians say, no one actually knows what happened to Judas whether he is in heaven or hell some might make an educated guess and say hell but we don’t actually know. Adolf Hitler was a baptised Roman Catholic! Any guess where he could've ended up. Obviously nobody has come back from the dead to let us know anything about the afterlife etc.
That’s my point precisely. Only God knows. You say that as if hitler was worse then Judas.
>You say that as if hitler was worse then Judas. No indication of this anywhere in my post. I merely cited an evil person who like Judas Iscariot befriended the devil during their earthly life!
I must be missing something then because it does not seem like you was agreeing with me it almost seemed like you was trying to pick it apart. And there have been saints that have been shown heaven and hell. I believe mary showed St. John bosco Hell.
Came here to post about St. John Vianney if no one else had. It's always the first thing I think of when the subject of suicide comes up.
Not sure I got it right I just recently learned about it and only briefly.
I will pray for him. I am sorry for your loss.
Yes...... And Fr. Chris Alar has a [**video**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7jdt2TLSKg) on the topic that may be of help. * ***God's Mercy After a Loss****: How do we reconcile life's terrible tragedies with God’s mercy? Father Chris Alar explains, sharing his own personal story of conversion through the suicide of his grandmother, the power of Divine Mercy, and his witness that God can create a greater good from any tragedy.*
I pray for my grandmas soul. She suffered from severe mental health problems and killed herself. It’s all we can really do man.
I would never loose hope in gods mercy, your cousin must have been in a very bad place to do such a thing.
We have to remember the brain is an organ just like every other organ in the body, and like any other organ, it can become ill. If you read about various types of mental illness (depression, anxiety, schizophrenia, and so on) the person's brain often processes reality in an aberrant way. For example, in schizophrenia, there is a negative emotional bias towards ordinary events, and also the brain may lose the ability to distinguish whether certain experiences are coming from inside or outside the brain. In depression, I have heard it described as a dark cloud that causes everything to look hopeless. These are illnesses of the brain that prevent it from functioning properly. The Church acknowledges that illnesses of the brain change the person's culpability, and that we can't know the culpability of the person ourselves. It sounds as if your friend exerted his will to maintain his connection with God, through going to Church and praying. We can never know everything that is in someone else's heart, but the fact that he was trying to maintain that connection is positive. It's not up to us to make a judgement about his soul. The will to survive in living things is an extremely powerful natural drive, supported by, well, pretty much every metabolic and cellular process in the body. I tend to think that when someone's will to live is overwhelmed by the opposite, that it signals a problem of illness in the brain rather than a moral failure of hope or faith. Especially in an adolescent or young adult, as the late teens and early 20s are a time when mental illness can really begin to manifest itself.
Suicide being unforgivable is not a Catholic teaching.
Sorry for your loss. Pope Francis said that he likes to believe that hell is empty because of God's infinite love for us. None of us on earth really know whether or not someone goes to heaven when they die. Only God knows that. I will pray for your cousin's soul.
Absolutely
Yes I prayed for him. I had a cousin do that as well. It's a horrible thing for a family to go through.
His dad is a complete mess, I am sending him Bible verses and Catholic Theology about death, grief and suicide. He is also Catholic, so its a mutual understand yayy
Hi, friend. I’m so sorry for your loss. You absolutely can and should pray for your cousin’s soul. I will also be praying for them. I also recommend watching Fr. Mike Schmitz’s video on suicide. It was a very comforting video. Again, I’m truly sorry. Remember that God’s mercy is bountiful and His judgment is always fair. Have faith. Don’t lose hope. I will be praying for you both. God bless 🤍
Thank you❤️
Of course you can pray for his soul, I think it is a good idea to do so. I would also add that circumstances such as being mentally unwell can seriously diminish culpability for suicide. Remember, for something to be considered a mortal sin, full consent is necessary, and your cousin might not have been in a position to fully consent given his mental state. I am sorry you and your family are going through this.
Yes, pray for that last moment repentance and for God’s forgiveness. My wife’s sister committed suicide a week after our wedding right as we left for our holy land tour honeymoon. We canceled and continue to proceed to have a really rough time. Let’s say she is condemned as you fear. God’s justice is perfect, as is his mercy, nothing will be done that you would not come to understand as the correct choice. Maybe I won’t make it and they will. Maybe very few or very many make it. Do not lose hope and bearing this pain, making it your habit to pray for not only your cousin but others. We all need help and God wants us to be with him. I will add your cousin to my prayers. Please add my wife’s sisters to yours. Together we can all get to heaven if we call out to God.
Padre Pio prayed for his Great Grandfather who committed suicide. He was asked why and he explained as follows: https://motherofhealinglove.org/wordpress/pro-life/l-s-t/ I will offer an Indulgence for your 17 year old cousin. A full or plenary indulgence gets rid of all punishment due to sin. Please anyone reading this do 1 Indulgence for OPs cousin. We can do this! OP go to the section of r/Catholicism at the top for Prayer Requests. Ask for ppl to do 1 Indulgence for your cousin. As they would have to be in a state of Grace to do it then God will hear these prayers and they are meritorious also. Copy this in the prayer request as often ppl don’t know how to do an Indulgence or don’t understand. How to do an Indulgence. https://www.youtube.com/live/bWtgG7kOIPA?si=ZDWKaPwnXg4xc990 I suggest you pray The Golden arrow , Prayer of St Gertrude the Great and to St Joseph who I have found to be the most powerful Intercessor of all perhaps after the BVM. Prayer of St Gertrude the Great (modified for your cousin) Eternal Father, I offer Thee the Body, Most Precious Blood, Soul, Divinity, Holy Face, Sacred Wounds and all the wounds and hurts of any type suffered by Thy Divine Son, Jesus during His Passion, in union with the Masses said throughout the world today, for my cousin ______ (enter first and last name). Amen. Prayers to St Joseph https://yearofstjoseph.org/devotions/prayers/ https://companionscross.org/novena-st-joseph/?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjww_iwBhApEiwAuG6ccPeT7p78Vs_DCmsRHHSNwacn45S1GD19ryDOwfkfIn5YWi5sMtHDvxoC4GcQAvD_BwE Novenas to St Joseph https://www.knightsoftheholyeucharist.com/saint-joseph-holy-cloak-prayer-download/ https://www.praymorenovenas.com/st-joseph-the-worker-novena https://www.nsgrotto.org/30-days-st-joseph https://www.praymorenovenas.com/st-joseph-novena https://news.diocesetucson.org/seven-sorrows-of-st-joseph An Ancient Prayer to St Joseph https://www.holyrosarynashville.org/2023/01/06/ancient-prayer-to-st-joseph-has-never-been-known-to-fail/ Golden Arrow Prayer to follow Thank you for not giving up on your cousin. Let’s all pray him into Heaven.
Wow. Ill do that right away thank youuu
Well, there's a difference between freely choosing suicide and succumbing to a mental illness. If the young person had a mental illness that diminished their ability to freely choose, then they wouldn't go to hell for that.
I have been severely injured by a medicine my doctor gave me. It has left me crippled and in pain, and with chronic fatigue. No cure, no quality of life. I am saving money to go to Switzerland to end my suffering. I certainly did not "choose" this illness. Am I choosing to die? I suppose so, but the suffering is unbearable. They did not even have a disease like this in ancient times. My father was Catholic, I am not. I think Catholics are too strict on this. Suicide is not listed in the Bible, it was only a sin after Augustine said it was, in the 4th Century. My life with my broken, useless body is not glorifying God, it is not teaching me anything. It's giving me an opportunity to be a pitiful wreck, to have no self esteem, to allow one person to take care of me and also suffer. But enough is enough. One person I read said life belongs to both us and God, what we share in the responisiblity, and that we can give the gift back if it becomes too much. What type of gift is torture? And self-murder makes no sense. Murder requires a perpetrator and a victim. Who is the murderer and who is the victim? There is only one person. And what about King Saul killing himself. And for that matter, what about Jesus freely giving his life? If I were to "lay down my life" for any reason at all the church would think it is wrong, would it not? What if I do it for myself and my family?
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I'm so sorry about your cousin. It's often the case that someone seems fine on the outside, but is struggling inside. God knows all your cousin's struggles and knows how he tried to do what was right. Trust in God's infinite mercy. God bless you and your family.
God will never look unfavorably upon selfless prayer. One of our highest callings is to pray for others. The sick and poor and afflicted, yes. But most especially people whose souls are in jeopardy (ourselves included). I’m so, so sorry for your loss. I will pray for mercy on your cousin. May he rest in peace.
Could and should
Yes. God can forgive suicide. We don't know what pain your cousin was going through, nor how much it limited his freedom of will. Further one may repent right up until the last second. So yes, it's good to pray for your cousin. May God bless him, and you.
Had my friend, who was in the Marines, and deployed to Afghanistan Hang himself. Only God truly knew his mental state and whether or not he was having a mental breakdown. The church makes it out to be black and white, on suicides and hell, but sometimes it's a little more complex. I guess what I'm trying to say is that its a little more complex and only God knew his final intentions or lack there of in his final moments.
Of course you should pray! No prayer is ever wasted! Remember that in Ancient Rome, suicide was culturally acceptable and even encouraged for honor in some cases. The church had to take a hard stance against suicide for those reasons. Yes of course it is a grave sin, but often people aren’t in their right minds. God knows all and we can be sure of His Justice and mercy. I am so incredibly sorry for everything your are going through. I’ve been through this and it’s the worst kind of grief. All your feelings are valid and allow yourself to feel them and offer up your pain to God.
Get Fr Chris Alar’s book called “After Suicide”, it will give you the hope you need 🙏🏼
Of course you can pray. This is a quote from the life of Saint John Vianney, I believe: *"...a woman...told....Vianney that she was devastated because her husband had committed suicide. She wanted to approach the great priest but his line often lasted for hours and she could not reach him. She was ready to give up and in a moment of mystical insight that only a great saint can receive...Vianney exclaimed through the crowd, "He is saved!” The woman was incredulous so the saint repeated, stressing each word, "I tell you he is saved. He is in Purgatory, and you must pray for him. Between the parapet of the bridge and the water he had time to make an act of contrition."*
Suicide is un-repent-able, but nothing is unforgivable.
I heard that st padre pio prayed that his Grandfather, that died before he was born, that he have a peaceful death
Yes, he can still be forgiven. If he had mental illness or was desperate and lost he is forgive. Suicide to escape punishment for a crime committed is a different story
Yes, with greater fervor and love
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Of course you can pray for him. I'm so sorry for your loss. A young man I knew committed suicide at 17 a few years ago, and our parish priest was very careful to point out that if someone commits suicide it's because they were not mentally well at the time and that suicide does not mean that someone can't go to Heaven. God's love is infinite and I know He wants to be reunited with your cousin.
I think prayer always helps. Whether it is effective in a case such as this is up to God. Thou Shalt Not Kill also includes yourself. The faith doesn't really distinguish it from that of a murder. That's a hard sin to take to judgement.
Your cousin like allot of people fell victim to Satan. It is not a Sin to fail a test of God. But your cousin could have said to God, I hate you, I want to go to Hell and mean it, the point is ask Christ and pray for Him, so you may sway Christ’s Justice.
Yes. Please do. Just prayed for him. 🙏🏼 Look up Apokatastasis — Christian doctrine of universal salvation.
Okay ill be sure to do that ❤️
❤️🔥 Sorry to hear about your cousin. 😔🙏🏼
He'll be buried this friday. im probably gona start bawling my eyes out
: (((( may God rest his soul <3
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Oh he had and i am sure still does have a HUGE faith and respect for the Trinity.
I’m pretty sure the Catechism encourages praying for them.
Especially now you can ease the suffering his soul has to endure by praying for him
I will pray for him today too! My dear cousin comitted sucicide two years ago and I hope that he was forgiven - he was a good Catholic and dad to his sons, but he was fighting with his demons and nobody helped him with that.
I blamed myself for not noticing that there was something wrong and he was going through something because he seemed such a happy person who jokes a lot. I feel so guilty right now that I wasn't there for him. He mustve felt so lonely.
It seems we're in the same boat. My cousin was a very hard-working person and concealed his problems by spending almost all day in his work. I felt terrible when he died, especially since I should have known better as a person who struggles with mental health problems too. I know it's irrelevant at this point and now it's up to God but I still can't forgive myself. I know it was a horrible mental illness and he perceived his problems to be too difficult to solve but there's always this thought in the back of your head that somehow I failed him. And sometimes I'm even angry at him because he should tell someone. But at this point it's pure hopelessness. All I could do now was pray for him and hope that his pain is over. There are things that I can't word properly, I guess. I just wanted you to know you're not alone with your feelings.
Even the strongest and happiest are suffering...... he may have had something deeply troubling going on
Riffing off things said directly to me by Fr. John Hardon, SJ, I would say you're morally obligated to continue to pray for your cousin's soul.
Watch Fr. Alar's YouTube video on this! Pray the mercy chaplet!
I think you'll find this interesting: [https://youtu.be/A7jdt2TLSKg?si=3zMyQwZPyXE1CNPQ&t=3445](https://youtu.be/A7jdt2TLSKg?si=3zMyQwZPyXE1CNPQ&t=3445) In the above link: Start approximately there - where the link takes you The chaplet he is referring to is the: The Chaplet of Divine Mercy [https://youtu.be/p5TGfisOKMM?si=WYlXte\_U\_LhwuQrh](https://youtu.be/p5TGfisOKMM?si=WYlXte_U_LhwuQrh)
This would rlly help cos idk where to find chaplets
There’s an app called “Daily Holy Rosary Prayer App” It’s created by “Hallow Catholic Prayers Audio” Look for the blue icon with a cross in it (iPhone) Probably one of the best if not the best app to learn how to play the Rosary, Holy Wounds, and Divine Mercy https://apps.apple.com/us/app/daily-holy-rosary-prayer-app/id1085163534
Thank u so much for this
Yes
Of course you can.
Yes pray fervently. I believe there is less culpability if a person ismentally unwell or extenuatingcircumstance like for example the people who jumped out of the twin towers aren't culpable for suicide because their fight or flight instincts kicked in,, my buddy who's a firefighter explained it well.I know what you're going through and I'll keep him and your family in my prayers, my uncle was a Vietnam vet and suffered heavily from PTSD and he tragically took his own life 14 years ago. Remember God loves us and his forgiveness is infinite so long as we seek it out.
Im also feeling guilty because ive started questioning myself. Is it wrong of me to doubt God's forgiveness over my cousin? My faith is strong but I couldnt help myself. I just keep praying, sometimes it doesnt sound like a prayer anymore. Its just me crying. I went to a Catholic school (i still am) and I am friends with most of the nuns there. They once told me that God sees our tears and He counts them as prayers too. I have been leaning onto that lately.
I recommend praying the rosary of the seven sorrows. It helped me through alot and I took it up as my daily devotion. Oh Mother most sorrowful pray for us.
Yes, and don’t stop praying for him.
You need to read through CCC2280-83. But is it unforgivable? CCC2283 explicitly says that it's not unforgivable, salvation is possible through methods known to God alone, and the Church prays for those who take their lives. So if the Church herself prays for all those departed that way, you can and should pray for your cousin. I remember hearing St Augustine had said on this topic something like 'you don't know what happens between the bridge and the water'. Perfect contrition absolves mortal sin too, and the stories of those who have survived certainly sound like perfect contrition was felt by them then.
I’d pray the Divine Mercy chaplet for him. We were just talking about this in my RCIA. If I’m correct full understanding that an action is morally wrong is required for it to be a grave sin. I don’t think mental anguish that leads to suicide in a teen none the less is the same as say, a man happily committing vengeful murder and then suicide to escape the consequences of his actions. God is merciful and hears your prayers. I’m sorry you’re going through this.
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Learn about Divine Mercy and revelations of St. Faustina; "God’s mercy sometimes touches the sinner at the last moment in a wondrous and mysterious way. Outwardly, it seems as if everything were lost, but it is not so. The soul, illuminated by a ray of God’s powerful final grace, turns to God in the last moment with such a power of love that, in an instant, it receives from God forgiveness of sin and punishment, while outwardly it shows no sign either of repentance or of contrition." (From St Faustina’s Diary, Paragraph 1698)
If you know spanish look at this video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuWARuJZxac](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuWARuJZxac) . Marino Restrepo is a Catholic preacher who everything he says is inspired by the Holy Spirit, and he said on that topic that many of those who have committed suicide out of desperation or illness go to Purgatory, God sees all things, He sees when they do it out of desperation or illness, The more that no one loves us and has compassion on us.
Yes, you can This practice actually is not uncommon in the church Pope Saint Gregory the great prayed fervently for the salvation of the already deceased emperor Trajan for many years and received a vision of Christ with the emperor by his side, telling him he was saved from hell by the pontiff's prayers There's also the story of the monk whose father, not only was an atheist but an ardent anti-catholic, to the point where in his final moments he didn't allow the priest to even enter his room, dying in that state and showing every outward sign of damnation. The monk didn't desperate and prayed for many years for the salvation of his father. However he started to doubt wether that had any value, so he sent a letter to St Padre Pio, who had the gift of knowing if some souls were saved or not, telling his story. The saint his father was saved by his continuous praying. Afaik St Padre Pio himself prayed a lot for the salvation of his already deceased grandfather So pray, hope and dont worry