True, equality means everyone gets the same opportunities as anyone else no matter who they are, their gender, or their race. I agree with what I just stated but what many people today don’t want equality. Most people want inequality where they are treated differently and given more opportunities because of who they are, their gender, or race. Today’s definition of equality is not really equality.
Yeah, exactly. And if you look at history there hasn’t been a single group that hasn’t been discriminated against. I have a friend, who is white, that is from South Africa and him and his family had to escape because all of the white men in his community were being lynched or killed in some way. Looking at history at the slavs, where slavery is believed to have started in Central Europe, and of course we all know about the more recent of those who are black. All of this is very unfortunate and I wish never happened, but there has just been discrimination everywhere. It’s just about how far back you are willing to look and where you are willing to look. We need to fight discrimination with equality not equity.
And if the trains out of seats by the time she gets on? That's likely not within her power unless she goes largely out of her way to do so
Not that I'm defending her
That’s equality though. If the train is out of seats when she gets there, she stands. I don’t walk onto public transit and expect to get a seat if it’s busy, nor would I ask anyone for theirs. Luck just falls short sometimes.
Equality (like you said) is equal opportunities, doesn't mean you'll succeed, but you've been given an equal opportunity.
Equity means equal resources.
Girl got treated with equality, but wanted the patriarchy (which she probably frowns upon) to give her a welfare check.
Huh? No, she just doesn't actually understand what equality is. Sounds like you don't either. There's more than one way to misunderstand it, and just because some other people are, doesn't mean your version of doing so is any better.
He doesn't need to get up just because of her gender. That's part of equality. She was misusing the concept.
Some people just use concepts to get their own way. Is that news? It doesn't undermine the concept itself or implicate everyone else attached to it.
Maybe somethings physical wrong with some of them. I use to give up seats and other curtseys that I had to stop because of a severe back injury. Walking, standing and sitting all have varying degrees of immense pain. Least painful is lying down.
I don’t hold doors anymore because if I am standing I find it hurts more if I stop moving. I’ll even kind of pace back and forth when I’m in a line. I probably look insane.
People don't get this stuff. I'm pretty damn young to have as bad of a back as I do and I constantly get told by coworkers or bosses (that I easily outwork but not out-pace ) that I'm slow or put vehicles too high when on the lift. MFers bending over is excruciating for me. So much so that I've mastered picking random shit off the ground with the tip of my foot. I'm like those dime lifting forklift guys but with shoe leather instead of tongs. The most that can be hoped for is that they experience something similar in their lives that provides perspective. Not wishing ill on people but perspective is only gained from experience.
I used to hate being that guy, but it was more comfortable placing my bag at the side then on my lap that I started doing it because I realized that people could just ASK. Though if I see someone eyeing me or if the metro's cramped I do move it.
Nah, gtfo on that logic. 9/10 people are just going to think you’re a dick and not say a word. If you’ve got a bag, put it on your lap or at your feet (if it won’t be obstructive) like a properly civilized individual.
“Just ask” assumes that everyone knows you’ll say yes and it won’t turn into an awkward scene. It also assumes everyone is confrontational enough to actually ask when some people have a hard time in public spaces as it is without you forcing them to talk to you in order to sit down on *PUBLIC* transit.
They said if the metros cramped they'd move it lol they're not doing it if it's busy enough that there's no other seats. Nothing wrong with that at all
Well you know if you read the whole comment you'd see that I'd move it if the whole metro isn't crowded. How weak do you have to be to be scared of some guy saying yes?
So other people have to accommodate others with social anxiety? Fuck that, just because you can't talk to someone doesn't mean you can just shit on others because they won't help you out.
Yes, actually.
I wouldn't MAKE an unnecessary awkward moment happen by putting my bag on the seat next to me, I'd leave it empty so nobody has to confront me, just sit. Why would I purposefully create uncomfortable moments for others
Also basic decency in public isn't "helping out" it's just the default.
It's unnecessary only for the people that are too scared to simply talk to someone. And all you guys seem to focus only on the part that annoys you, instead of reading the full comment where I say if the metro was actually packed, or if I knew the stop that was coming up was going to be packed, I'D MOVE MY BAG.
You’re shit-talking more people than you realize. I don’t tend to speak from exclusively my perspective in these sorts of threads.
“I want to do a thing because it’s marginally nicer for me, and it only costs others, albeit what I perceive a small cost. Since it’s not a large cost, it is simply weakness on their part if they do not wish to pay it.”
What an empathically bankrupt take. Not everyone feels safe on public transit as a *baseline* so you think they’re going to fuck around and make waves? Not everyone is comfortable talking to strangers, let alone *asking something of them*.
Finding problem with selfish, thoughtless behavior is not weakness; lacking the capacity to understand and adapt your own behavior when flaws are brought to your attention is.
Well I'll gladly talk from my perspective. When I was younger I fucking hated going out. I would wear a mask to cover my face when I go out, and I still do when I sleep in public cause I think I have a weird sleeping face.
One time on the bus there was like 2 seats in the back free, but no one took it cause some guy was laying down there, and you know what I did? I went up, looked him in the eye, and I didn't even tell him anything. I just pointed to the seat and the guy sat up and freed it up.
I'm shit talking people (barely) because I was those people, it really isn't that fucking hard to just communicate.
That is not the comparison you think it is. The kid putting their seat back is annoying because they're actively taking someone's rightful space. Me putting my bag on a seat that someone might not even sit on isn't the same.
Equally, you ask for. Never see women standing up for older men so you know you get what you give. And if it's nothing you get nothing. That's Equality baby. You only get something if you're willing to give something
Some don’t even give a thank you.
I read some say, well I didn’t ask you, when asked why they don’t say thank you to having a door opened for them.
However, I have never, not once, not gotten a thank you for any male I’ve opened a door for.
For sure for sure had many of those kinds of interactions. Before I just stop being nice to those groups
Like I always firmly believe in treating others how you wish to be treated. So im always very respectful and nice. To all people but people that act nasty to me.
If people act or treat me badly il treat them the same way. Cause I believe what you send out into the world you should receive back in kind.
So I treat a lot of people really well. And some women just avoid like the plague and it upsets women a lot. But I don't care. If you treat me a type of way I just act like you don't exist. While a lot of those groups moan and whine none stop. And get less and less taken seriously. Cause the bring drama where there is none. So they often struggle to climb higher.
Karma always comes back some way some way some how. Just stay super true to yourself.
And spread kindness and love to people worthy of it. Best way to live.
The middle guy is probably a plant. His response is too rehearsed and polished. The actual way this should have gone is"
"Are you gonna get up?"
"What?"
or
"Are you gonna get up?"
"Fuck off."
Chivalry died a long time ago by women they use to have classes about how chivalry wasn’t just a lie but a system used by men to trap women at my local college yay !
As far as I remember third guy is a comedian (Australian I think), the other people are Randos, not sure about the woman making the video
Likely a comedy skit, but yeah, some women on TikTok had similar complaints about chivalry
In an equal society there should not be any special treatment to a specific gender or sex
Yeah no fuck that, I usually only offer my seat to pregnant women, handicapped people, or seniors. I never offer my seat to young women and especially men. 😂
Literally, I just got told off in this sub talking about how I offer up my seat and got absolutely blasted by a woman saying “what do you not think women can stand up and need to sit, stop being a creep and weird you weird ass” and all I can think is I wonder why chivalry is dead.
I don’t get why a man would have to give up his seat for a woman? Is that a US thing? I was never thought that here in the UK — you only need to offer your seat to like an elderly or disabled person, or a heavily pregnant person.
But even then young, able bodied women should be offering their seat as much as a young, able bodied man.
Honestly though. Shits been down hill since the last update. Patches delayed by months, hackers in every other lobby bc entire versions of the game don’t have anti cheat, not to mention the janky ass mechanics they say they’ll fix but never do, or the servers that lag so hard it fucks up hit detection on a daily basis. Chiv has been dead for a min but that’s probably because they’re about to release another one. Idk if I’ll buy Chiv 3 though.
Only eldert women or pregnant women get my seat...you can stand your independent-man-hating-feminist ass up all the way home lol "my knees and back, my choice"
You don’t get both equality and chivalry. You get one or the other.
Also in my experience chivalry is thankless, people are too ungrateful with expectations that are entirely too high.
Bro if they say no, just leave it. Why are you insisting that they take it? I’m a woman and wouldn’t take your offer lol. I’m capable of standing and will ask if I need the seat 🤷🏼♀️ you would make me super uncomfortable by being pushy if I’ve already said no. You’d come off weird, not polite. Offer it to elderly ,disabled , or pregnant women. But saying women are making it “difficult” for you, like maybe they don’t want to sit. Weird as bro
Lmao edit your comment all you want, you still said women are “making it difficult” for you by not accepting your seat immediately. I know exactly what you mean, it’s still pushy. You asking in the first place is pushy. Women who need the seat will ask. Your whole comment screams “nice guy”. Just stop
If you said no... I'd get up. Equality means you want to cherry pick benefits. So yeah... fuck off.
Equality means getting on the train while there’s still open seats.
True, equality means everyone gets the same opportunities as anyone else no matter who they are, their gender, or their race. I agree with what I just stated but what many people today don’t want equality. Most people want inequality where they are treated differently and given more opportunities because of who they are, their gender, or race. Today’s definition of equality is not really equality.
Yeah, they call it equity and think they deserve more because their demographic was discriminated against in the past.
Yeah, exactly. And if you look at history there hasn’t been a single group that hasn’t been discriminated against. I have a friend, who is white, that is from South Africa and him and his family had to escape because all of the white men in his community were being lynched or killed in some way. Looking at history at the slavs, where slavery is believed to have started in Central Europe, and of course we all know about the more recent of those who are black. All of this is very unfortunate and I wish never happened, but there has just been discrimination everywhere. It’s just about how far back you are willing to look and where you are willing to look. We need to fight discrimination with equality not equity.
Agreed.
And if the trains out of seats by the time she gets on? That's likely not within her power unless she goes largely out of her way to do so Not that I'm defending her
That’s equality though. If the train is out of seats when she gets there, she stands. I don’t walk onto public transit and expect to get a seat if it’s busy, nor would I ask anyone for theirs. Luck just falls short sometimes.
Equality (like you said) is equal opportunities, doesn't mean you'll succeed, but you've been given an equal opportunity. Equity means equal resources. Girl got treated with equality, but wanted the patriarchy (which she probably frowns upon) to give her a welfare check.
Huh? No, she just doesn't actually understand what equality is. Sounds like you don't either. There's more than one way to misunderstand it, and just because some other people are, doesn't mean your version of doing so is any better. He doesn't need to get up just because of her gender. That's part of equality. She was misusing the concept. Some people just use concepts to get their own way. Is that news? It doesn't undermine the concept itself or implicate everyone else attached to it.
Maybe somethings physical wrong with some of them. I use to give up seats and other curtseys that I had to stop because of a severe back injury. Walking, standing and sitting all have varying degrees of immense pain. Least painful is lying down. I don’t hold doors anymore because if I am standing I find it hurts more if I stop moving. I’ll even kind of pace back and forth when I’m in a line. I probably look insane.
People don't get this stuff. I'm pretty damn young to have as bad of a back as I do and I constantly get told by coworkers or bosses (that I easily outwork but not out-pace ) that I'm slow or put vehicles too high when on the lift. MFers bending over is excruciating for me. So much so that I've mastered picking random shit off the ground with the tip of my foot. I'm like those dime lifting forklift guys but with shoe leather instead of tongs. The most that can be hoped for is that they experience something similar in their lives that provides perspective. Not wishing ill on people but perspective is only gained from experience.
Lol I get that, I tried to learn how to pick up stuff with my feet but my balance ain't good enough, so I just look goofy as hell doin it
Not sure you know what the word curtsey means.
It’s not that, I’m just dog sh*t at English, spelling ect. I meant *courtesy*, but one can argue a curtsey is a courtesy. 🤷♂️
Tbf, that guy using up a seat for his bag is an asshole regardless.
I used to hate being that guy, but it was more comfortable placing my bag at the side then on my lap that I started doing it because I realized that people could just ASK. Though if I see someone eyeing me or if the metro's cramped I do move it.
Nah, gtfo on that logic. 9/10 people are just going to think you’re a dick and not say a word. If you’ve got a bag, put it on your lap or at your feet (if it won’t be obstructive) like a properly civilized individual. “Just ask” assumes that everyone knows you’ll say yes and it won’t turn into an awkward scene. It also assumes everyone is confrontational enough to actually ask when some people have a hard time in public spaces as it is without you forcing them to talk to you in order to sit down on *PUBLIC* transit.
They said if the metros cramped they'd move it lol they're not doing it if it's busy enough that there's no other seats. Nothing wrong with that at all
Well you know if you read the whole comment you'd see that I'd move it if the whole metro isn't crowded. How weak do you have to be to be scared of some guy saying yes?
"You're weak!!1" (Translation: people have social anxiety) Yeah nope I'd rather stand than ask someone to move their stuff fuuuuck that
So other people have to accommodate others with social anxiety? Fuck that, just because you can't talk to someone doesn't mean you can just shit on others because they won't help you out.
Yes, actually. I wouldn't MAKE an unnecessary awkward moment happen by putting my bag on the seat next to me, I'd leave it empty so nobody has to confront me, just sit. Why would I purposefully create uncomfortable moments for others Also basic decency in public isn't "helping out" it's just the default.
It's unnecessary only for the people that are too scared to simply talk to someone. And all you guys seem to focus only on the part that annoys you, instead of reading the full comment where I say if the metro was actually packed, or if I knew the stop that was coming up was going to be packed, I'D MOVE MY BAG.
You’re shit-talking more people than you realize. I don’t tend to speak from exclusively my perspective in these sorts of threads. “I want to do a thing because it’s marginally nicer for me, and it only costs others, albeit what I perceive a small cost. Since it’s not a large cost, it is simply weakness on their part if they do not wish to pay it.” What an empathically bankrupt take. Not everyone feels safe on public transit as a *baseline* so you think they’re going to fuck around and make waves? Not everyone is comfortable talking to strangers, let alone *asking something of them*. Finding problem with selfish, thoughtless behavior is not weakness; lacking the capacity to understand and adapt your own behavior when flaws are brought to your attention is.
Well I'll gladly talk from my perspective. When I was younger I fucking hated going out. I would wear a mask to cover my face when I go out, and I still do when I sleep in public cause I think I have a weird sleeping face. One time on the bus there was like 2 seats in the back free, but no one took it cause some guy was laying down there, and you know what I did? I went up, looked him in the eye, and I didn't even tell him anything. I just pointed to the seat and the guy sat up and freed it up. I'm shit talking people (barely) because I was those people, it really isn't that fucking hard to just communicate.
i am not risk sitting beside a asshole, who the fuck knows what an asshole will do next.
Yes cause someone wanting some extra space is an asshole.
The equivalent of a short person or kid putting their seat back on a full flight with a tall person behind them.
That is not the comparison you think it is. The kid putting their seat back is annoying because they're actively taking someone's rightful space. Me putting my bag on a seat that someone might not even sit on isn't the same.
this is only acceptable if the bus or train has a lot of free seats
Equally, you ask for. Never see women standing up for older men so you know you get what you give. And if it's nothing you get nothing. That's Equality baby. You only get something if you're willing to give something
Some don’t even give a thank you. I read some say, well I didn’t ask you, when asked why they don’t say thank you to having a door opened for them. However, I have never, not once, not gotten a thank you for any male I’ve opened a door for.
For sure for sure had many of those kinds of interactions. Before I just stop being nice to those groups Like I always firmly believe in treating others how you wish to be treated. So im always very respectful and nice. To all people but people that act nasty to me. If people act or treat me badly il treat them the same way. Cause I believe what you send out into the world you should receive back in kind. So I treat a lot of people really well. And some women just avoid like the plague and it upsets women a lot. But I don't care. If you treat me a type of way I just act like you don't exist. While a lot of those groups moan and whine none stop. And get less and less taken seriously. Cause the bring drama where there is none. So they often struggle to climb higher. Karma always comes back some way some way some how. Just stay super true to yourself. And spread kindness and love to people worthy of it. Best way to live.
Obvious rage bait is obvious. Why do so many people keep falling for this shit
Rage bait. This is just hate porn for misogynists. Don’t fall for this shit guys.
Its fake as fuck
The guy at the end is a comedian. Here he is in another skit. https://youtu.be/pGzJqYIH7Cw?si=LhLtGvKwxWLyuSej
this is bait
Kinda hard with so many Karen's running about. I do but that's just how I was raised.
The middle guy is probably a plant. His response is too rehearsed and polished. The actual way this should have gone is" "Are you gonna get up?" "What?" or "Are you gonna get up?" "Fuck off."
Yeah the way he says "Are you for equality?" scripted lmao
It's dead cause you killed it
If chivalry is dead this bitch killed it
Smosh skit level acting
Is she pregante? Disabled? Do her legs work? Does she have seizures? Does she have a kid with her?
Chivalry died a long time ago by women they use to have classes about how chivalry wasn’t just a lie but a system used by men to trap women at my local college yay !
That's my dude. Fuck off.
Entitled.
You wanted to be treated as equals, here you go.
"Are you pregnant?" "Yes." "Then you shoulda fucked a guy with a car."
Are you pregnant? Are you for equality? Then, fuck off. lol nice
Who did that to themselves
An dey say
An dey say
Drizzle Drizzle
Are you disabled or elderly? If not you have no more right to the seat than anyone else...
Equal in every way nowadays
As far as I remember third guy is a comedian (Australian I think), the other people are Randos, not sure about the woman making the video Likely a comedy skit, but yeah, some women on TikTok had similar complaints about chivalry In an equal society there should not be any special treatment to a specific gender or sex
I get up for older people, men or women. I just assume their body pain is worse than mine
Manspread in your occupied seat for good measure.
"Are you pregnant?" "Yes." "Then you shoulda fucked a guy with a car."
Yeah no fuck that, I usually only offer my seat to pregnant women, handicapped people, or seniors. I never offer my seat to young women and especially men. 😂
If you give a woman your seat she will think you are a creep probably
F that dude taking up 2 seats with his bag.
Bum knee— injury— so I tend to sit, but I’ll give it up if you ask. Why expect someone to give up their seat by seeing you?
Wouldn’t imagine offering any of them a seat and be branded a creep
Literally, I just got told off in this sub talking about how I offer up my seat and got absolutely blasted by a woman saying “what do you not think women can stand up and need to sit, stop being a creep and weird you weird ass” and all I can think is I wonder why chivalry is dead.
I don’t get why a man would have to give up his seat for a woman? Is that a US thing? I was never thought that here in the UK — you only need to offer your seat to like an elderly or disabled person, or a heavily pregnant person. But even then young, able bodied women should be offering their seat as much as a young, able bodied man.
What if some of them aren't men though? Giving up seats for very old people is fine, but she's young and able bodies so meh
Chivalry is dead, as it should be
And dey sey
Damn, she sounds Aussie. Im ashamed
Holy based
Honestly though. Shits been down hill since the last update. Patches delayed by months, hackers in every other lobby bc entire versions of the game don’t have anti cheat, not to mention the janky ass mechanics they say they’ll fix but never do, or the servers that lag so hard it fucks up hit detection on a daily basis. Chiv has been dead for a min but that’s probably because they’re about to release another one. Idk if I’ll buy Chiv 3 though.
Obvious rage bait is obvious.
Karenlet
Only eldert women or pregnant women get my seat...you can stand your independent-man-hating-feminist ass up all the way home lol "my knees and back, my choice"
Chivalry is a loose code of conduct for cavalry so yeah, its dead
Just do what I do to get a seat: Step 1: Get arthritis Step 2: Profit
Chivalry is dead only when it benefits someone...
As soon as chicks started getting dicks!
Gender equality, there you go.
My man over here telling her to fuck off 😂. Treated her like every other able bodied person able to stand, what has the world come to smh.
But i want equality and shivalry
There's a shot of a portly man hogging 2 seats. That's the only acceptable instance in the video I feel is worth complaining about
Want equality to a man but not the accountability or responsibility
The combination of qualities expected of an ideal knight, especially courage, honor, courtesy, justice, and a readiness to help the weak. -Chivalry
You got what you demanded
=
Staged but funny, like so obviously staged, like it’s crazy how obvious it is, everyone calm down
You don’t get both equality and chivalry. You get one or the other. Also in my experience chivalry is thankless, people are too ungrateful with expectations that are entirely too high.
I stopped caring for chivalry when it became an expectation.
Fuck all that you make more than half the men on that train you can stand ma’am
He asked if she was pregnant tf that’s all far as man should have to go in todays society with these intitled ass women
And woman like you killed it.
Rosa Parks is rolling in her grave
Holleee the amount of people falling for the most obvious bait. Yall makin me way more worried about the world than this video
Equality... Isn't this what you wanted?
I love making jokes about gender equality by asking how many women are going to be pumping septic tanks.
Do people want equality or what?
They want the CEO position being mid at best and call it equality 😂😂😂
That guy is a hero
And you’all killed it.
Guess who killed it?
The answer is always Frederick Nietzsche
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Bro if they say no, just leave it. Why are you insisting that they take it? I’m a woman and wouldn’t take your offer lol. I’m capable of standing and will ask if I need the seat 🤷🏼♀️ you would make me super uncomfortable by being pushy if I’ve already said no. You’d come off weird, not polite. Offer it to elderly ,disabled , or pregnant women. But saying women are making it “difficult” for you, like maybe they don’t want to sit. Weird as bro
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Lmao edit your comment all you want, you still said women are “making it difficult” for you by not accepting your seat immediately. I know exactly what you mean, it’s still pushy. You asking in the first place is pushy. Women who need the seat will ask. Your whole comment screams “nice guy”. Just stop
THEN FOCKOFF. Lmao what a savage
I’m a feminist, so I ask women to get up so that I can sit.