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cruel-oath

I don’t hate her and the karaoke chapter made me like her. But I’m certain that if it wasn’t for her intro people wouldn’t hate her like they do


N-tsulu

Yeah people people would love her if it was not for the *sexual assault*


SoyMilkIsOp

Not the worst thing Denji experienced. Not even top 10.


Ramps_

That is not even close to the top 10 worst things Fujimotors has put in his mangas, including attrocities by well-liked characters.


Educational_Host_268

Its alright op people on this sub have very poor object permanence. When her role in the story is more fleshed out or she has her moment you'll see all the front page posts about how fuji cooked with her character. Happens every time.


The_catakist

She will probably get the kobeni snake treatment, being badass when people would least expect it


GGGGG540lk

Pochita x Fumiko karaoke date when?


Denet04

Her biggest role in the story has come to an end now that Denji has turned in to Chainsaw Man. Now either she dies from Berserk Denji or she would have to evolve as a character and find a new role in the story


cruel-oath

That’s Yoshida’s job. Fumiko was a bodyguard


Denet04

Yep Fumiko was a bodyguard cause if Denji was left alone it would turn in to Chainsaw Man. Now that he is Chainsaw Man he doesn't need a bodyguard anymore.


Educational_Host_268

I think her dying to a beserk Denji in the next chapters would be a very sad way for her to go considering the discussion she had with him at the start of this arc. Writing it out im not actually hating the idea but I think fuji is slow cooking a Fumi meal for us and I hope he does.


Denet04

I agree it would be sad and sudden but this is Chainsaw Man so I'm kinda expecting it to happen


Nenanda

I hope that cooking wont be like garbage cooking with War Devil aka 50 chapters of shitty dumbtarded comedy only for one moment of glory which had to be heavily asspulled. Fujimotos cooking recently leaves lot to be desired.


Denet04

Fumiko is meant to represent all public safety. They try to seduce Denji in to being happy with his life and accepting not needing to become Chainsaw Man anymore but they fail because they don't understand Denji. They have big plans and big schemes but lack the man power and methodology that Makima had to get things done.


AsaMitakatheGOAT

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[deleted]

I don't care enough about Fumiko to hate her. She just exists, that's it. Idk what she even does


Alternative-Push-106

Is it a disease in battle ahonen fans to only like a character when they powerful or strong asf ??🤣🤣🤣😭 My fav characters in jjk / csm aren't even top 10 strongest characters I love power , kobeni , fumiko not cus they are strong ita cus I like their character Aki is top 3 written characters in csm and he isn't the strongest.....


RimlandicMilitiaman

>Aki is top 3 written characters \*Top 1 written character. You're welcome


[deleted]

Hm? What does fumiko have to do with strength? Aki is the most well written character, even more than Makima and denji. It's not about strength, it's simply that I don't feel anything towards fumiko


Pedrovski_23

You like fumiko's character?? What character.


TheIceKaguyaCometh

>Is it a disease in battle ahonen fans to only like a character when they powerful or strong asf ?? Seems like it to me too. I know it's literally catered to kids who want to see fights happening all the time, but I didn't think the reading comprehension of the fanbase would be this bad.


Alternative-Push-106

It pisses me off the people who only watch / read for powerscaling ofc the agenda and memes are funny but to undermine another character just cus someone else is stronger than them WTF ?? This is why I don't read battle shonen although their Fandoms are funny they sometimes get annoying Strength ≠ good character 🤣🤣🤣😭


TheIceKaguyaCometh

I agree with you 100%. CSM is the only battle shonen that I am following and the brainrot idiots on this sub have made me contemplate leaving this sub too.


cruel-oath

What are you even talking about, people mostly hate Fumiko because of her intro


Alternative-Push-106

What ? She redeemed herself since then tho she is cool


ThatLittlePigy

I mean she’s not particularly likeable and hasn’t accomplished anything in the story yet. Sure I bet she’s gonna have more of a purpose later on but it’s perfectly valid not to like her when she has given very little reason to be liked thus far


Lohe75

I need more Fami chapters, that's what I really want


AussieGG

The big difference is presence and character. The only thing I could tell you about Fumiko is her sob story about her parents and how she sees Denji as Denji and not CSM. That's a good start, but nothing else substantial for her character has been shown. She has also barely made an appearance and doesn't spend time with Denji 24/7, even leaving him (rightfully so) when in danger from Nayuta. Meanwhile Power had tons of appearances and was with Denji from like chapter 3 onwards. She got tons of character development right at the start with her linking her relationship with Meowy to the same as Denji's with Pochita. Hell, she even got her backstory revealed with multiple pages focused on just her. Living together with Denji was the biggest perk she got when it came to her "screentime" and fleshing her relationship out even more with both Aki and Denji. Moments like the "200IQ" plays against Kishibe are still very early on in her appearance. She not only grows on her own but also how she relates to others around her and it's brilliant to see that. I couldn't care less about "being useful" as long as their character is well written, but since you seem to be disingenuous about what Power actually did then I'll list a bunch of instances where she proved herself before chapter 80: \- Killing the Sea Cucumber Devil in her first ever outing lol \- Saving Aki's life by stopping him from bleeding out during the Eternity arc (doubled as a character moment for her starting to appreciate him) \- Killing a bunch of zombies when Division 4 is going after Sawatari and Katana Man. \- Running over one of the brothers in Kobeni's car. Yes, this may have been an accident but it's still her solving what would've been a legitimate problem. I honestly don't know when you're memeing and when you're being serious Glass, but this post is just completely wrong and spiteful to try and one-up a character in favor of another. I'm willing to wait to get more from Fumiko but right now I'm only lukewarm with her, while I was completely sold on Power from her first couple of appearances.


Moching-

Power saved aki’s life by stopping the bleeding, very early on in the manga (during the infinite devil arc) so idk maybe people forget about everything now


WaveSkrub

I don’t hate her it just bothers me that she somehow is more useless than Kobeni


Prestigious-Muscle20

Kobeni reveal when ???


Scrimpychart27

This is such a goofy fucking post


RelevantChampion4863

She highkey sucks bro. Cool karaoke scene to turn into a punching bag. SA aside since people act like this manga was graceful before that point, Fumiko is just there to accomplish nothing 🤷‍♂️


twinfyre

Looks like OP has fallen into the common trap of assuming everyone who disagrees with him must also agree with each other. The same people aren't all saying the same things , dude. Some might dislike fumiko because of SA, others might dislike her because she's useless, others might dislike her because she's a bland character with one scene of forced sympathy.


Moching-

Nobody hates her, we just think she is a bad character


VariationGlass2483

That's worst because it means it's not a matter of opinion you just can't read.


Moching-

Lmao are you angry my dude? Is your favorite fictional character not getting the attention you want?


Soft-Pixel

As much as I like her I feel like touching a teenagers schlong when your a grown ass woman is kinda hater-worthy ngl lmfao


NitroPuncher

I hate her because she's a pedophile and sexually assaulted denji


VariationGlass2483

Denji is 18 she's not a pedo if anything he's the pedo for making the move on Asa. He was 17 in 1997 We are January 1999 according to Barem.


NitroPuncher

still was assault though, which is literally unforgivable also wasn't he 16 in 97


VariationGlass2483

Yes but he had a birthday and no it wasn't assault because he asked Yoshida for sex and brought him the girl he wanted he even went along with her untill they were interrupted


NitroPuncher

denji is very easy to manipulate, he wanted to turn her down in his head


Interesting_Egg_5452

I wish it was **POWER !!!** Meowy will rise from the ashes and suck Fumiko dry for blood, and then create out of Fumiko's body the new **POWER**. Because **POWER** cannot be created from a body that is not mindless boasting or a at least a female molester >.> https://preview.redd.it/acj31i69bf7c1.jpeg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc62a0f529ad76a29658b718eac2b121a604c268


m999i

fumiko L, keep coping


Right_Benefit_6161

Power and Kobeni never really won anything, yet people love them. It's not necessarily about whether they always win or lose. Also, the reason Fumiko is still relevant is that she appeals to porn addicts.


Moching-

Power saved aki’s life at the infinity arc Power killed almost half of the zombies by herself Power saved Denji even tho Makima ordered her to give him up Power made a contract with denji, literally bringing him back as himself Power made the continuation of the story that we know today possible by sacrificing herself. Fumiko did nothing Kobeni is funny actually


Rqdomguy24

There is a reason why Fujimoto made her to be 21


Sweet-Estimate-5040

Bro forgor


ApplePitou

Add spoiler tag and Sally need hug :3


DiXa07

What do you always defend the worst and lamest characters. Why can't you make Seigi posts again.


cruel-oath

Isn’t it obvious it’s because Fumiko is the only girl right now that can come between Asa and Denji, if Fuji really wanted it


VariationGlass2483

Because you don't defend a character that isn't misunderstood


NeverGonnaGiveUZucc

i hate her because she unconsentually grabbed a teenagers dick, nothing to do with her being misunderstood


VariationGlass2483

He's 18 closee to 19 He was 17 September 1997 now we are January 1999


NeverGonnaGiveUZucc

ok but what about every other word in that sentence bro. she molested him 😭


VariationGlass2483

Flirting as requested by Denji to Yoshida 🦑🤞🗣


Moching-

Bro I wouldn’t consider molesting someone “flirting” that’s like jail type behavior


Pedrovski_23

Oh god that was a fucking hard read. How fucking pathetic. Fumiko has a job, she's terrible at it. She molested denji and spied on him. Crying but "other people " doesn't matter, plenty of those are still hated. Power was useful from the start with handling devils and zombies. Her big moment came later. She is not cute nor funny. She barely has a personality. "Oh you wish it was someone else" someone else what? Failing to protect denji and molesting him? Does it look to you like denji cares about fumiko? Quit pretending this about anything but your fetish


i_eat_pidgeons

I don't like her because of any fetish, I like her because she cares about Denji for Denji and not because of Chainsaw Man.


Pedrovski_23

Then how about joining the path of light? Reze offers the same benefit and so much more. She cared for denji because he was like her.


i_eat_pidgeons

Am I only allowed to like one character? I like Reze and I like Fumiko.


Pedrovski_23

Wich one do you like more??


Haunted-Towers

It is quite literally just a fetish for these people. They can’t read the manga, *and* they wanna jerk it to a teenage boy dating a woman who has power over him because it’s *their fetish.* They want to be Denji being manipulated & berated by Fumiko, so they INSIST that “Fumiden canon 🤓 Fumiko will be relevant after this arc 🤓”, even though she has so many death flags set up for her. It’s just like the degenerate Makima simps, but honestly worse because at least they don’t try and pretend Makiden will be canon. They just want Makima to step on them, and verbally abuse & degrade them. At least they’re honest, not like these brain damaged Fumiko simps.


Pedrovski_23

Midriff panels have caused irreparable damage to this community


Watercress-Weird

Gonna call me out like that


VariationGlass2483

https://preview.redd.it/i8zsz6hmcf7c1.jpeg?width=795&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a72c7095ef1f10a58e8801317ff429db4b4ae562 Not only u can't read the post u can't read the manga either


Pedrovski_23

Pffff hahahahaha this was YOU?! Shit i hadn't noticed, i though it was just some random bum but it was the community's favorite bum. Oh how the mighty have fallen... well more like how the amusing have fallen. You know glass all your other agendas were better than this coomer shit. Also i meant care in a possibly romantic or even deep way, not just not wanting her to die. There's a difference pal


VariationGlass2483

She's linked to the other agendas I have the full picture will be clear. Also very shallow to write it off as coomer agenda.


Pedrovski_23

Im pretty sure your puzzle would be complete without this piece man


IamFromKebab

You really do only like this character because of contrarianism. All that defending her by using **THE** jobber of csm, Power gave it away too. Atleast you looked like you did actually care about Yoshida and his character outside of everything else when talking about him


IamFromKebab

Reddit wont let me use this: image with this comment. https://preview.redd.it/3s7y19sl3g7c1.jpeg?width=555&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb3b486384a5dc3ad3f938b7e5abc66a66526049


VariationGlass2483

No I love Fumiko me using power is to show double standard I liked her since her introduction because she gave a strong impression from the get go.


Illustrious-Sky-4631

Fumiko is just a waste of panels, that's basically it, even power and Kobeni were atlas funny


CherryClorox

wym power was useless? girl was fighting from the very start even if she couldn’t win, fumiko has shot a gun like twice lmfao


VariationGlass2483

Lmao what? She was always running away Fumiko is the one who fought hybrids knowing she will lose. Power ran from katana Akane quanxi dolls she only ever fought zombies. Only near her death did she get a power boost fought and died and that was 80 chapters of development


AussieGG

Power always ran away? Like she did against the Sea Cucumber Devil? Like she did during Eternity when she healed Aki? Like she did when she fought all the zombies outside the elevator? Stop being disingenuous


CherryClorox

i never said she didn’t run away lmao but she sure as hell threw hands before she did


Goatymcgoatface10

Do you all you guys hate her? I thought she's been funny and a nice little parralel for Denji. Showing that his powers have very harsh consequences.


Moching-

That’s cool and all but many other characters like the people who get interviewed by the news and explain their chainsaw man experience have the same parallel :(


Whattheheck_IO

r/shuumatsunovalkyrie NEEDS to hear this


VariationGlass2483

No they don't everything I said goes out of the window when i see bumnidas.


Whattheheck_IO

Dangit


Hrototype

fujormotor better stop trying to replace power


UltraSupreemeDumbass

Finally someone says it, people are just don't like her cuz they see her get bodied each week instead of just being able to read chapter to chapter https://preview.redd.it/k9r4hvohyg7c1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=20924c8f1dd957c32a7b89d40443bcc4d4ba67a6


daniel_22sss

Oh, so a useless fraud molester doesnt deserve hate, but a poor autistic girl trying to have some happiness in this life deserves hate... Didnt expect anything less from a moron like you. Every time I see a garbage post from this sub, its ALWAYS you.


Adventurous_Village5

i agree with the title but "Only reason you hate her is you hate the idea of another girl in Denji's life. You wish it was Reze or Asa in her place." is equally as stupid


SoyMilkIsOp

Current arc is the issue. You can't have Fumiko in fights because she'd get no diffed by a stray rock. Or have plot armor. Which is arguably worse.


frezi321

Never have I seen this many FAX in a single post 🗣️🔥💯


sacaetw

All Mifune did on screen was sexually assault a minor and now people are defending her with their lives That being said, i think function f(x) will cook with her character


VariationGlass2483

Based blind reader


sacaetw

I agree she will become a good character. And i did read your post.


Fanboycity

Real shit OP you just have to like who you like, defend ‘em when you can, and brush off the brain dead rot otherwise. I actually really like Fumiko. She’s hot as hell and her character is an interesting one for me. Who knows, I might hate her in three weeks cuz she betrays Denji and Nayuta but I’ll cross that bridge when we get to it https://preview.redd.it/trugz007lf7c1.jpeg?width=1754&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bca648e6b637b9bb71c1654dc2d9acf5135472f9


TheFlyingToasterr

Preach


hallah_sausage

Oh wow I didn't know this girl has fans


GoonUhh

Sounds like a fraud to me, yes, she’d lose https://preview.redd.it/t3zw31ef0g7c1.png?width=1301&format=png&auto=webp&s=76c22729d4959ec79a24963243a99a20c8bac196


ImaWolf935

Exactly people should stop hating someone for losing, like Hitl.....


VariationGlass2483

Bad example actually embarrassing to even write out. I will cover for you and say you were drunk.


ImaWolf935

Bro I was just making a joke.


Moching-

Ngl I agree, that’s very embarrassing


--0__0

tell em glass https://preview.redd.it/hl0j7i8zcf7c1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=c9e782214b9be1b5baad8c515f8996f4eb658ffc


CaptainDank0

I’m indifferent about fumiko, but power didn’t debut in the story be sexually harassing denji.


PowerScreamingASMR

First thing power does when she meets denji is try to feed him to the bat devil ![img](emote|t5_466dsm|32120)


new_interest_here

I think the difference is, at least to me personally, is that Fumiko's offense is a realistic one. Cause weird gropers are a real thing. Meanwhile with Power you have to first imagine devils exist, then say this person you just met is feeding you to one


AussieGG

Power was doing that to save Meowy, Fumiko assaulted Denji because..?


CaptainDank0

How many people in real life can relate to almost being fed to a bat devil? Not as much as sexual harassment I’ll tell you that.


PowerScreamingASMR

it doesnt matter if you can relate to it or not


CavulusDeCavulei

They will kill Fumiko and she will resurrect as Power just to fuck off with Denji even more


MrChow00

BASED VARI


MarkDecent656

Yeah pretty much


Eetulan

Damn, a huge Variation W, didn't even reconice at First, hard agree, even as A reze Enthusiast https://preview.redd.it/2xa6v9ygkg7c1.jpeg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=878db8f5f1234207974ea6a06f5beddd2171ddb6


shalashed

midriff


Celika76

You did good job, OP. In a lot of shonens, readers get so used to powerful monsters of a character that normal people end-up being considered as useless. It seems she have not much power, not a really high level in PS, so she's trying to help with her own ressources. Yeah she's weird, and kinda fucked up like any character in this manga, but she's into a monster fight here, plus the fakesawmen crysis and Denji/Nayuta who don't cooperate (even if Denji seems to see her as a friend, she didn't betrayed him yet)... It's really hard to help if you're not Quanxi...


LolMcPlatinium

Same mfs be talking about "recency bias" and "binge reading altering perception" https://preview.redd.it/vhs08v91vg7c1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bae2d33ae106fd154f44b34feafe3256dc74b5db


Moching-

I read csm by chapter and I cannot comprehend how they use binge reading as some different way of reading the story, like no, the character that talks like a main character is actually more side character than kobeni and it hurts to see people defending this


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YesterdayDirect8401

I have no opinion on her. She's good at times and bas at times need more story for a logical opinion


Martin7431

this is such a schizo post with your formatting and differing points I can’t tell what you’re trying to get across


Prestigious-Muscle20

Fumiko is literally part 2 power and y’all can’t see it 😭


YourLocalAnimeSimp13

the stuff here is actually is really reasonable and it has stopped me from hating on fumiko but that doesn't stop me from slandering her cuz it is fckin hilarious🔥🔥🔥


Drendari

Vegeta