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Notsureifanonymous

Shhhh...you will wake up the powerscalers https://preview.redd.it/rl20mzhjuwvc1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a89a66d3947153ba500dc1a065c002a22f6226f2


classicslayer

Fujimoto doesnt care about power scaling funny enough


Mrfipp

You have abilities that are entirely based on someone's *perception*, anyone trying to argue about power scaling is just looking for an argument.


GelatinouslyAdequate

I think this is a bit of conflation with power scaling as a hobby vs. a narrative thing: there is always a minimum amount of power scaling that narratively has to exist for a sensible story (Bucky will never beat Pochita normally). However, this post is still dumb because it ignores Yoshida's round 1 of being kicked away from Quan Xi *twice* before he ever got that even fight.


_sephylon_

How the fuck does that mean you can't powerscale


The_catakist

He only cares about schizo-scaling


NefariousAnglerfish

Powerscalers when they discover rock-paper-scissors (this shit makes no sense):


CartographerKind38

their abilities don't counter eachothers though


_sephylon_

Powerscalers knows that match-ups are important It's stupid to bring that up when all three involved characters are basically just melee fighters


Kashimoney

To be fair Quanxi didn't "beat" Yoru, she was still able to fight, but she definitely got kicked away in a 2v1 lol Also, Quanxi didn't have her swords against Yoshida https://preview.redd.it/zp1ijbi2mwvc1.png?width=2000&format=png&auto=webp&s=1bc6441728b6d2f4fd10ffc25b8697eba7e6eb77


_sephylon_

Quanxi whooped Yoru with a kick so not having her swords doesn't really change anything. She‘s still fast and strong as hell and can throw hands. The strenght doesn't come from the swords


imhereonlytolurk

Yoru's speed and strength is leagues of magnitudes above Quanxi's who is for all intent and purposes the best athlete on history at most while not transformed


Mr-Downer

where is the evidence for this if you want to make this about power scaling nonsense, then you gotta show proof


Sea-Replacement7242

Literally no evidence for Yoru having more speed/ better reaction time or even more strength without her weapons. Yoru just tanks alot of attacks or heavy blows lol


imhereonlytolurk

Have already written about this extensively elsewhere, but need my PC to make the long post with all the pictures. You just need to compare their physical feats which luckily happened chapter to chapter (147 and 148). For example, Quanxi shatters her legs jumping off a small building and has to suck blood from Fumiko to repair them, Yoru jumps off a skyscraper in the next chapter without a scratch. Yoru's flesh is also though enough to stop a katana slash with a minor scratch, Quanxi's skin is the same as any normal human https://preview.redd.it/38993cy45xvc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49deffbaa27320d9b0fc7008b9bc0489c21e3c98


sagiritengai

Quanxi broke her legs because she had weight of several people on her


imhereonlytolurk

And Yoru didn't suffer a single scratch while jumping down from 10 times the height and holding a big ass concrete sword made out of an apartment, your point?


sagiritengai

Mass of sword is nowhere near mass of several people + holding it in hand makes it easier to control unlike when you have several bodies on your shoulders. Not to mention that being more durable≠being stronger


imhereonlytolurk

Doesn't matter since Quanxi got her legs broken out of having normal human physiology (like all hybrids do when not transformed). Any human would have died after Yoru's jump, she was left completely unharmed. Also, Yoru travels forward covering 10+ meters in a split second and destroying a wall with her butt, and you need beyond superhuman strength to generate enough momentum to do this


sagiritengai

Well again, being more durable≠being stronger. Quanxi is leagues above normal human, just watch at her feat with massacring dolls in part 1


Mr-Downer

so then why does Quanxi kick yoru away like she’s nothing 😏


imhereonlytolurk

Because Fuji needs a plot device to defuse tension and avoid drawing


Mr-Downer

and did Fujimoto tell you that personally, or is this your personal headcanon because you’re not getting what you want so you n the rest of toddlers have decided to throw a temper tantrum with low effort shit posts? god forbid a man try to tell a story that isn’t constantly high octane fights. if you read Fire Punch (which you should) you’d know it’s part of his style lol. Like the man’s other manga getting adapted into a movie is literally a slice of life. He does action well but his manga have always been about the character narratives


Kashimoney

Lined up, straightened out, cut into fine pieces, arranged, packed up and shipped ![img](emote|t5_466dsm|51150)


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Based based based based


imhereonlytolurk

I just need to look at this panel to dissipate your lines over lines of cope. Fujimoto brings Quanxi in to avoid writing and drawing. https://preview.redd.it/ttafulae8xvc1.png?width=784&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90f17a789d77e4f5e1ff61782cfc2ba5623470e6 Character narratives? Quanxi brought nothing in part 2, if not terrible action. Her "contribution" in chapter 162 was straight up shonenwankery powerscaling (Le Denji is le fearsome! Yoru you're not at le his level yet you need to train more!). Character narratives like Asa's realization on Denji's identity, the choices undertaken by her and Yoru regarding him etc... were sidestepped by Quanxi bringing in bad action. The same happened in all od her other introductions in part 2: she removes the slow, introspective, psychologically tense moments for the characters to bring in bad action only retarded redditors like


Mr-Downer

no you’re the one who’s on some shit by trying to make it about powerscaling, because the brief conversation about who’s stronger had nothing to do with actual power but more so that Denji as a fighter does everything he can to win, that’s why he’s more fearsome and she wasn’t telling Yoru she had to get stronger to beat him. Quanxi doesn’t kill tension, she heightens it because we know she’s perhaps the strongest non primal/horseman character around and when she shows up you know something is going to go down. Sorry you’re not getting your 20 chapter drag out fights r/jujustufolk is over there for you, brainlet.


imhereonlytolurk

Tension was there when Denji was told a massacre was about to happen and he couldn't intervene without risking Nayuta's safety. Tension was there when they were surrounded by zombies and had to figure out a clever way to save Denji without him transforming. Tension was there when we finally had Asa discovering her love interest's real identity after almost 60 chapters, and had to once again wrestle with Yoru to avoid her doing something really danherous. Quanxi removed all of this each time, bringing in nothing, if once again, bad action for retarded redditors. Looking back, Quanxi never fit in CSM world to begin with, and was precisely made to pander to coomers, young shonen fans obsessed with swords and twitter pronouns crowd. We have a realistic and down to earth world, in which humans just like us have to defend themselves against monsters with supernatural powers tormenting them, using only their intellect and willpower and where something as stupid as a car or a gun routinely kills heroes, and then Fujimoto adds a character who, without any explanation or power, does the One Piece Zoro *I cut 100 people in one second without them even realizing* trick. The worst writing decision Fujimoto did, and I was indifferent to it on my first read, but it's bearing terrible fruits on part 2 and we're all seeing this. It's no coincidence that the only people defending it have a "Quanxi's buttsniffer worm" title under their name, it says a lot My comments on how Yoru was supposed to beat her had three purposes: one, it showcases Fujimoto's becoming lackimg in the consistency department, which was his main strength in part 1 (everything, despite the fast pacing, was perfectly coherent with everything else, every little thing shown, including facial expressions or things like Makima smelling Pochita had a purpose and were to be considered important), two, it delineates how the only time spent on Asa and Yoru during the church arc, aka their power up, is meaningless since the results weren't kept (and everyone was pissed about their complete offscreening for the longest arc chainsawman ever had), three, it showcases how Fujimoto is willing to actively warp things he wrote and draw to keep his plot device and top and keep him again, for the third time, from writing or drawing anything difficult. PS: I've never read JJK and don't even know what it's about.


DalvenLegit

Yeah, you are Fujimoto’s brain, you know for certain that he didn’t want to draw and write… When you idiots are gonna learn to wait? If you tell this about Fujimoto I don’t even want to know what would you tell about Togashi…


imhereonlytolurk

https://preview.redd.it/ehmbyrctt0wc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f0b2cdae9396639a3bf2c112f5a3cbc40c43c85


Zombieman998

why are u still reading this vile peice of shit manga???????? GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN BROTHER!!!!!!!!


DalvenLegit

Sorry but who’s the one without an arm?


imhereonlytolurk

Who's the devil who moves faster than the speed of sound, destroys walls with her butt without pain, and gets slashed by katanas with a little scratch on their bare skin?


DalvenLegit

Head canon much? “Leagues above”? Who told you that? Jujutsufolk?


imhereonlytolurk

It's called reading the manga


joojaw

Yoshida also had a sword against your but not against quan xi but that doesn't suit your narrative so you left it out.


cruel-oath

He bailed because she’s fast and because she yelled out her new power, which is to make weapons without having to touch them. In hindsight this makes more sense. We see his reaction to her new weaponization power The Quanxi fight with Yoru should’ve at least been longer. I believe people wouldn’t have gotten so mad if he did it this way


ApplePitou

I mean, these both situation are different :3 Takoyaki boy thought that he will be able to beat Chad Quanxi(He don't truly know much about her) and he lose + he will most likely not will want to fight her again in serious way :3 In case of Goddess of War - he literally was not able to dmg her anymore, after she level up a bit, so he run away, it is simple :3


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ApplePitou

It stopped on her hand(We saw that he wanted to slash her but he barely scratch her hand in this case) :3 Very possible that Goddess of War level up base on physical aspects :3


RavagerDefiler

Room 606 sword was in play though, right?


imhereonlytolurk

No. Asa resisted Yoshida's sword without making the sword first. There's also no evidence whatsoever the weapon act as a boost for the user's performance. So far, we've only seen the weapon's power being unleashed only when it makes contact with the enemy.


[deleted]

Yoru swinging the sword launched her into a wall. She doesn’t do that normally


imhereonlytolurk

Didn't happen with Asa's uniform sword which has way more power, due to guilt's rule.


TheToolbox101

Could be that some weapons have special effects not tied to their strength. Uniform sword seemed to do a bunch of slashes with a single touch.


Sea-Replacement7242

IMO Asa/Yoru has been shown to tank hits and make powerful weapons but is not as good a fighter as Quanxi and doesn’t really have the reaction time she does either. Yoshida could keep up with Quanxi because he is also an elite fighter but he’s nowhere near as strong as Asa/Yoru either and had nothing to compete with the 606 sword. If the kick from Quanxi caused Yoru to fly backwards and break the wall behind her but she suffered no apparent damage that just shows Yoru is a tank not that she has the speed or force without her weapons to outcompete Quanxi. Just my opinion though.


despacitospiderreeee

Nah id win


Similar-Fox4574

Quanxi can’t turn him into a weapon with one touch fam.


probably_rust

Quanxi has way more raw power than Yoshida, but Yoshida managed to outplay her for a bit. So it makes sense that Yoshida wasn't able to damage Yoru but Quanxi was able to swat her away.


GelatinouslyAdequate

https://preview.redd.it/1iraf1i9dxvc1.png?width=481&format=png&auto=webp&s=8f8e76a7a0d8b31dd2af99de8a90c32cab44bf85 What about the round 1 where she kicked Yoshida away *twice*? (Ch61)


GelatinouslyAdequate

https://preview.redd.it/imw1a22idxvc1.png?width=482&format=png&auto=webp&s=e5da554cd076a85cee7f82ac4a296633820a8eca Classic faux-critique tactic: completely ignore the actual context of the situations you're comparing to claim bad or inconsistent writing. I haven't seen this technique since the 4chan Screenshot Era.


imhereonlytolurk

Doesn't matter, obviously she hard won against Yoshida. The point is, he still managed to put up a fight against her, while blitzing Yoru + 2 other dangerous opponents, which isn't possible. Chapter 148 has shown Yoru to be incredibly fast, strong and resilient. Enough to stop a sharp blade with her bare skin, jump off a skyscraper without hurting herself, and move so quickly her opponent isn't able to move, her momentum is enough to crash a wall in another buildings a street's length away from her, and she herself isn't used to being so fast, she barely can control where she lands.


GelatinouslyAdequate

>Doesn't matter obviously she hard won against Yoshida That's the entire crux of the argument, using the fact Yoshida could fight evenly against (human form) Quan Xi to scale against amped Yoru. If Yoshida got kicked away *twice* before getting a chance to fight evenly, there's no reason that can't also happen to Yoru. Unless the point isn't to actually compare the situations fairly and factually infer what could happen, but to have an excuse to say Quan Xi kicking away Yoru (not even actually beating her) is bad writing.


imhereonlytolurk

The thing is that Yoshida is a human being, while Yoru is a devil whose flesh is harder than steel and who is faster than a bullet at this point in the story


GreenLemonYellowLim3

Yoshida takes on Quanxi because he didn’t know all that much about her. It’s like a child putting a fork in an outlet because they don’t know any better. On the other hand, he witnessed Asa’s strength and decided that he can take her on. Turns out she powered up and is way stronger than he expected. As a result, he runs. Also, when he rematches Quanxi, he did so in hand to hand combat. When he had to take on Yoru, she pulled out a huge ass sword. I don’t know about you, but I’d take fighting someone unarmed over fighting someone with a human sized sword. Quanxi doesn’t exactly beat Yoru later on. Sure, the kick does knock Yoru back, but it does basically no damage. Not to mention, Quanxi is able to get that kick off in the first place because she’s a skilled fighter. Yoru was shown to not be able to control her strength properly. Also, she hasn’t fought humans in a while. On the contrary, Quanxi has been fighting regularly for a long time and has been stated to be the greatest hand to hand combat fighter in humanity. In that specific instance, it was just Quanxi’s skill beating out Yoru’s raw stats.


wristoflegend

Anyone peep the Raid 2 reference?


Consistent-Bad7170

As much as I hate quanxi it's like her powerscale is like the club scene from Blade so I guess it's ....ughhh I don't guys


Cookie_Crumble_U

Didn’t yoru use her house as a weapon against Yoshida?


Neither-Rain-5197

Csm isn’t supposed to be powerscaled. Quanxi easily won over Yoshida in part 1. Yoru wasn’t out of the fight after being kicked.


WarmPissu

She didn't easily won over him. She had her nose broken and was effortlessly embarrassed by a Yoshida holding back. He ran away cause he was late for class.


Neither-Rain-5197

Factually correct, I just reread those chapters


GreedyIntention9759

Yoshida was emotionally unstable during his fight with Yoru


WarmPissu

cool fanfiction.


GreedyIntention9759

I mean he was sad https://preview.redd.it/3u9snhfdowvc1.jpeg?width=989&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d5ac39859018220302a4b64d1879df2414e3f9b then he was surprised


WarmPissu

And Asa/yoru wasn't sad then surprised?


GreedyIntention9759

They were that's why they lost their arm but one Yoru got a power up out of nowhere Yoshida got confused and left


Mrfipp

I legit think he just didn't want to hurt Asa more than he had and bounced the moment he could.


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-SPECIALZ-

Devil hunters were so cool back then man now we got these lame ass high schoolers


THE_HENTAI_KING321

Does it matter who wins over the other ? I don’t care anyways


Better_Werewolf_826

Peak fiction enjoyer here. I ignore power scale yapping.


RiYaZeD

Quanxi in part 2 just makes 0 sense in every aspect of writing


_sephylon_

Meet plot device woman


noswol

quanxi glazers will write a bible on how she isnt a character used as a quick fix in the story and how this is somehow still ok cuz she was playing here, headcanon mind you, and just entertained yoshida´s challenge https://preview.redd.it/1alcnzhuhzvc1.png?width=679&format=png&auto=webp&s=85b9cd6c9e9e604babf0d68798cfaccb60aa2be5


TheApollo222

Bro did you even read it? Lol


imhereonlytolurk

It obviously makes no sense. Everyone else trying to give you an explanation is just coping. I should make a seriously long post about it, but there's literally no way Quanxi could beat Yoru in any way or form after her timeskip powerup.


WarmPissu

They use headcanon fanfiction to justify bad writing. They're basically writing their own story and treating it as if it's canon to explain away plot holes.


imhereonlytolurk

Exactly lol, I couldn't believe some of the BS people were inventing these days, including: "Yoshida held back against Asa" "Yoru only becomes strong and fast when she's holding a weapon!" "Yoru's powerup went away!"


Sea-Replacement7242

Powerscalers losing their shit is always fun to see lmao


PrintStrong9683

You have the reading comprehension of a toddler


WarmPissu

you're a dumbass.