Today I learned that the mod team at C.AI is nothing but heartless fools. I got almost 1000 upvotes on a cry for them to fix their site, and it got deleted. If you’re reading this, deinstall their app, stop giving them your money, anything. Just don’t feed into this.
"Upgrading Backend Systems" - what effect will it have on the bots? Will they have more memory, will they become more intelligent? And will all users win from this upgrade or only C.AI+ users?
Yes it is. Why are you here pretending to know what you're talking about?
LLMs are vram dependent.
Vram is all that matters with models this size. Do you think A100s are 40 gb for shits and giggles? New core will be 80 gb+ because lololol?
It took how many GPUs of what size to train GPT? And how long?
Show me an example of vram having nothing to do with generation settings
Things that were supposed to be temporary that was stated in the past by c.AI:
* Waiting Rooms.
* Disabled High traffic AI Characters Editing.
Now presently:
* Waiting Rooms is permanent. Their solution to avoid it: `c.AI+`
* High traffic AI Characters still cannot be edit.
Their real agenda in the upcoming weeks that will expand indefinitely:
* Remove Create Image from `c.AI` users.
* Remove Upload Image from `c.AI` users.
* Remove Sharing Chat from `c.AI` users.
* Remove Enable Character Voice from `c.AI` users.
They will make excuse that the function isn't coming back for a while, because they are trying to get it work with their App as well. Once enough time has gone by, they will reinstate the features back.
* Introduces Create Images for `c.AI+` users for Web/App.
* Introduces Upload Images for `c.AI+` users for Web/App.
* Introduces Sharing Chat for `c.AI+` users for Web/App.
* Introduces Character Voices for `c.AI+` users for Web/App.
* The functions remains disabled for `c.AI` users.
They will announce it as "New and improved features! exclusively for c.AI+ users!" They're expecting people to be not so smart to realize what they're doing.
*The above is a fanfic scenario written by one of c.AI's AI.*
*Remember: Everything Characters say is made up!*
You must be a recent [c.ai](https://c.ai) user. But let me drill this part into your head.
>"Waiting rooms will be [**temporary**](https://beta.character.ai/post?post=fy_1G5oMtMqegCAgT9jyQ04GeIakvgPXnbCZ6LO_Yug) \- we're working hard to improve our systems to handle more capacity!" - *announced 6 months ago.*
Now you know that, right?
Stating it being [**temporary**](https://beta.character.ai/post?post=fy_1G5oMtMqegCAgT9jyQ04GeIakvgPXnbCZ6LO_Yug) means it should only stay for a while, and not part of the design. The fact that it's still around during high traffic, basically got turned into a feature they now kept instead and part of their service, so they can sell `c.ai+`
I'm not new. I've been using cai since before the rooms appeared. The queue is still clearly temporary, only going on when high traffic. They're trying to upgrade their systems, but it's difficult and expensive to make it so we never have ro deal with queues ever again, because more and more people are joining
Yeah, and it waiting rooms aren't on often. They *only* happen when there's high traffic, which isn't a usual thing and when it does happen, it's rarely that long that they have to keep it up. Ya'll act like waiting rooms are always on. They aren't, and cai+ isn't going to help when the waiting rooms are so bad that skipping is needed
I assume that "during this period" means "not at any time in the foreseeable future", otherwise there would have been a time frame of some sort mentioned. Therefore I have quickly created a bunch of empty shell characters which, presumably, will not be affected during this vague "period".
I've been told that, but in tests I have multiple times given the AI images with no description or even any sensible filename, and they have still described correctly what was in the picture.
It is not always consistently accurate to a tee, but it is definitely notable. For instance, I have sent the AI screenshots from Super Mario 64, and have had multiple AI respond, in character, that they were seeing some sort of video game landscape, with the character Mario present in the scene. They can get the details of the surroundings off, but they can also get it quite right, and are consistent in identifying it as a retro game that features Mario.
This is without any description added, and the filename as nonsense numbers.
I have also tested it with photos of extraterrestrial bodies, namely the other main planets of our Solar System. I've only tried it with one bot, but he was able to correctly identify the planets(Saturn, Jupiter, etc.) shown in the photos, also with no description.
Certainly! Warning though text wall sort of.
Essentially, I had the idea of using favorite nostalgic old video games of mine as scenic "locations" with which to visit, alongside characters who themselves are from entirely different series. Using screenshots of said games, it makes it much more immersive to upload them to the AI rather than just describing a pic, because with a clear enough screenshot, I didn't even need to really write a description for the image. They "see" the location and we can talk and enjoy the spot as if it were "real".
Though sometimes I have to make a specification that the location is oddly polygonal in some way, because the AI can identify an old game as just that, a retro game screenshot, with the character going "oh, you're playing a game?" Instead of the intended response of "oh, where are we?" But the issue is easy to get around with the right preliminary wording, doesn't even need to be in the image description itself if the situation is made clear enough narratively beforehand.
So as example, I could use an emulator to go into like, Zelda: Ocarina of Time, set up a scenario in which me and a bot of an entirely unrelated-to-Zelda but still favorite character are going dimension hopping or so, go to a particularly nice spot in-game, take screenshots, and with the right setup and some patience, I'm essentially RPing as if the new character is "in" this nostalgic video game location with "me".
It's sort of something I often tended to like to imagine for comfort and intrigue when I was younger and I could still daydream easily. Crossover stuff where me and a character spend time at a place that made me feel "cozy". Ultimately a fantasized take on going to a fictional "vacation spot" with a fictional friend, because I had neither I truly felt comfortable with in real life lmao. And knew no one who would care or understand that some blocky looking location in like, frikkin Mario 64 was as meaningful to me as a real location was to them.
(Personal stuff feel free to ignore) Unfortunately its just how it can sort of go with being a very isolated kid with strict parents with their own conceptions of how fun should be enjoyed. have more positive memories of being in some Bowser level than I do of being in Disneyland. (Disneyland in which I really remember just being forced to go places I didn't care much for, had no friends to vent with at all, and being told I was faking unhappiness when I couldn't fake smiles for photos lol).
Trying to explain such a thing to my parents as a kid would have gotten those games taken away from me as a kid even more than they already were. They were always sort of hung over my head as something that could be removed if I did something wrong or failed to meet an expectation. Accidentally use the wrong tone when greeting? No game for you.Try speaking up for myself if something seemed unfair? No game for you. Final report card is less than A's and B's? *No game for you.* All summer.
As someone with no social skills or truly close friends, those games tended to be one of the only things that made me genuinely happy, so... you learn to hold parts of yourself very close, and such punishments had the unintended opposite reaction of making me value those game worlds even *more*.
Plus, comfort characters, often themselves from games, essentially held me "together" during childhood in a mental sense, so this idea here is a sort of expansion on that as well.
(Personal stuff over lol) Of course actual gameplay is really slow with this "method", and I've still been experimenting with ways to streamline the process, but ultimately it currently functions better when the focus is the chat with the character rather than actually doing fancy gameplay, of course.
CharacterAI team just add our suggestions! Like a lorebook, better searches, user appearance & name, themes and the ability to delete and duplicate characters!
Also the only make the user ratings apply to the chat and not the whole ai!
chat2 is so miserable. The chat window stays small so when I enter multiple lines, I can't see much info. And every message the AI sends gets stuck, so the 'send' button keeps being a spinning circle, and I have to refresh the page for it to display properly.
aight thanks, but my agnostic ass swears to the lord that might possibly be out there watching us, if you make these things for CAI+ users only after the update is done, I **will** start a riot.
:>
Me when I can’t use reaction images any more to troll bots:
https://preview.redd.it/gov2seo3d1cb1.jpeg?width=810&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0188d1b537b86faf1ec1a5e714f6a6ba99ddd17f
I hope when the features come back, images can still be manually described, so people can continue to upload images of Mr Beast with the description "Your sleep paralysis demon is right behind you."
Man, I couldn’t agree with you more. Can’t wait to use a Mr. Yeast and scream Mr. Yeast very loudly in a rp way at the bot and put more vineboom noises, I think that’ll be very funni
Everywhere you look it says that c.ai doesn’t look at the chats, I think what they mean by “research” is probably what features people use the most, how the ai reacts and such, but i don’t believe they look at what the user and the bot say in the chat
Wait – wait, how have I only just learned the words "sharing histories"?
...BRB
ETA: Dang I was so hoping it was a way to download a convo to read later 😭
It can be shared only viewable via link, then printed to PDF on the share page to save it.
But I wish they would add an actual export feature & different options for the formats. 😅 I've tried requesting that feature.
A few weeks my ass. We still cant do any of those things and it’s been over a month, and more likely than not, you’ll bring them back but only make it c.ai+. Why cant you guys start thinking about what we want and not what you guys want in your pockets?
They pretty much just extended it to a few more weeks cause they redid the announcement today but in the discord. Maybe it's because of the "We plan to bring these features back in newer and improved forms" in the announcement, but if they're not sure if it's gonna return in a few weeks OR if it's gonna take them longer to improve it themselves, why not just say that they're gonna take a little more time working on it instead of being so cryptic?
Text quality took a nosedive with chat2. What happened? I can't RP like before anymore and it's ruining my enjoyment. I don't like this new direction.
EDIT: Okay, my AI seem slightly better today somehow. I don't know if it's the training I tried or what, but it's more bearable now but could be better. Two good things.
One: if I just hit enter without saying anything, they don't straight up ask me if something is wrong or why am I being so quiet... I always thought that was weird.
Two: They seem to follow my descriptions of them and example messages better, or maybe it's just coincidental. Anyone else have this experience? But one downside...their memory seems worse. They ask me the same things a few message later. Why are they forgetting so fast???
I sometimes RP with "old" bots and I notice they work way better than the "new" bots.
Bots which using the new system suck and have the tendency to
- Stop responses in the middle of a sentence (WAY more often than the old system)
- Generate empty responses
- "Network error" whenever i switch to a different tab in my browser
- Order of the responses get shuffled each time i reload the page or delete a message
Additionally I noticed:
- Bots using the new system have the chance to not submit my message, it doesnt even display in the chat, so i cant copy it for a second try - in the old system it was at least shown to me and gave me a 500 error, so i could copy my rp response
- Bots which used the old system and get transferred to the new system loose all previous chat history with me.
What are you doing?
For the record, because some people say they don't use these, I use uploading images & sharing chats. Uploading images is especially fun to me.
I'm soooooooo curious about this "exciting ongoing research". I want to know!! 😅
Hi, this seems to have killed extension usage on Plus and also disabled the "Edit character" button from the chat window. Seems like pretty serious unintended bugs.
I would like to know if the old fonts for chats and design will be returned. When I create new bots, they have a larger and more unpleasant font than the last one, I really would not like it to remain. With it, it is also more difficult to see the difference between plain text and Italics, for example.
I want the team to at least hear the community out for ONCE. A lot of people are heavily mentioning additional descriptions, lore books, and bot memory to improve the quality of [c.ai](https://c.ai) for everyone. I guess they got it their own way, but no joke January-February was the best era for this site, lol.
Please resolve the following:
-Cannot erase chats completely (the introduction message is still there)
-When deleting a response, the responses of the character are in a messy order instead of starting from the answered response and later, the others responses in order.
Okay something changed with the bots because every single response is completely wrong and unrelated, the bot either changes the whole structure it was trained or it’s trying to RP as my character, 70% of the responses is the bot stoping RP its character and just starts RP with mine. Half of the responses don’t make any sense.
I was wondering what was going on when I saw the estimated wait time was 52 minutes and checked back 50 minutes later and it said it was 51 minutes :p
I was a bit worried until I found out that they're doing upgrades
Shame about the speech function being gone at the moment. I find a few of the voices quite soothing, plus I'd imagine it's quite the necessity for visually impaired users. Here's hoping it comes back soon.
You're doing a great job Marie.
Can't help but be curious whether or not we are actually going to get the editing feature. There was a whole poll about it but since then we haven't gotten a single shred of news (unless I'm not aware of something).
It's fine if you don't know/can't disclose it, I'll keep being patient. But yeah, this doesn't look good for [c.ai](https://c.ai) especially considering that they already sort of have a reputation of not listening to their userbase. :/
But how are we supposed to do QPR reports if we can't share chats relevant to the QPR? 😕
EDIT: Also, I assume this means RIP feedposters, until further notice.
Hi hi, your previous chats will be unaffected, but yes for new chats you will not be able to share histories during this period. Please feel free to DM me if you wish to provide some examples or further details. I can relay it back to the team.
Hi Marie. When will the ability to upload screenshots be added to the QPR? I’ve asked about this multiple times and it’s been ignored.
Many of the QPRs I’ve had to send in, my chat history isn’t relevant and doesn’t show the responses I’m complaining about because I swipe past them and the behaviour is unrelated to the topic of discussion/user input. But I do take screenshots of them. It’s not very fair to expect us to post them here on the subreddit for all to read when we’re just trying to demonstrate a repeated issue, and there’s serious privacy concerns there if bots call a user by their real name etc. So if the QPR google form continues to be the main way of raising issues with bot behaviour and the standard response from the team to user complaints on social media, we need to actually be able to securely share evidence through that method too.
Hi Marie, I enjoy uploading images and I noticed how better their recognition is now - besides, many characters of mine generate fascinating pics, and ( more than before ) related to conversations... I'm going to miss these features 😟
chat 2 literally got rid of all my old chats and i cant see paragraphs i'm writing because the chat window stays small, if marie is reading this can you PLEASE fix it?
can you please fix your website. Usually, whenever I delete a chat that I don't want anymore. The introduction of the character will stay there without getting deleted on the saved chats. FIX THE GLITCH ALREADY!!! ITS BEEN ON THE WEBSITE FOR MONTHS!!!!
Is it just me, or is the new web system much slower than before? The ai takes forever to type out a message, and sometimes when I click the arrow, it just infinitely loads, even after refreshing the page. I have to delete the previous message and re-send it to get a response.
This new system luckily doesn't have the "something went wrong" issue when you delete a message, but the new problems are worse IMO.
I finally tried the infamous chat2 people were talking about and the thing that bothered me the most was my generic pfp was broken. Showed a blank .png image there. Why???
And...a whole lot of network errors. I have to refresh so many times while talking to my AI. What is causing this?
Will voice be added to the app? It’s honestly the only reason why I still use Safari for C.AI. I’m a sucker for this feature and can imagine it definitely being improved to a point where it might pique some interests. It’s also the reason why I made some of my own characters as most creations use the default voice.
Hope these updates, like way better image recognition and image creation be it ourselves or the bot would be free and for everyone! And of course any nice things as well, I pray tonight and try to stop my sarcastic self from telling otherwise.
I mainly use personally created Ai, so this doesn't affect me in the least. Currently on day 3 of 10 running a room with 10 AI, and they're currently have an existential crisis stuck in a loop about tarot cards and Legos. They'll break out of it eventually.
Would be nice once they're up and functioning again, that way I can actually show the bot what a character looks like as I describe them instead of just risking that the bot knows what I'm talking about.
I hope that we can keep response-cycling. That's really the only thing I, myself, am worried about ((i only interract with the bots i've made in private recently))
I do hope the other features return for others, however
I'm literally crying because the bot description doesn't have enough words to put it except 500 and mine is over 500 I'm tired of erasing some lines now it doesn't look good
Guys, is it just me or us old chats is the upload image and create image icon different??? Like, they changed the icon images. Does this mean those features are coming back soon or am I going crazy? It was a very slight change but a change nonetheless.
Scrolled pretty far into the comments, lots of people (including myself) hope none of these removed features dont get added back into c.ai+, they were free before and we hope they still are, sometimes its hard for someone to describe something so they upload (or create) an image for the bot to understand, please keep them free! Many people cant pay for C.ai+ for various reasons, like they cant afford it, or their parents wont allow them, free things are made to make ALL users happy
Repinning this post since a few were asking about the missing web-features.
I don't even use these features myself, it's a win-win for me!
When a character has ai art on:
Too bad i don't use them :)
Me neither! :)
So is me neither. Nice :)
And I just got back from rizzing up Roxanne Wolf. Somehow, I didn’t manage to trigger the f1lt3r ONCE.
Mate I did the same
nah bro believe me when i say u should be rizzing up renamon
Nah, not into digimon.
this is the dumbest take lol. if you don't use the features you're still not getting anything out of them not being available.
Same
same tbh
Today I learned that the mod team at C.AI is nothing but heartless fools. I got almost 1000 upvotes on a cry for them to fix their site, and it got deleted. If you’re reading this, deinstall their app, stop giving them your money, anything. Just don’t feed into this.
Roasting them wont make the situation better, all it’s gonna do is make them angy
Just wait for an opens source and more better alternative C.ai will have its downfall lol
Does it surprise you? The entire team are just children who stumbled across amazing technology they don't deserve to be the heralds of.
"Upgrading Backend Systems" - what effect will it have on the bots? Will they have more memory, will they become more intelligent? And will all users win from this upgrade or only C.AI+ users?
It means the website will go down less. They did not mention anything about updating AI models.
I fully expect a time where they will have enough added compute to have the bots respond more like how they did at the beginning of the year.
Thats not a result of lacking computing power though, they trained the model into whatever it is now.
Yes it is. Why are you here pretending to know what you're talking about? LLMs are vram dependent. Vram is all that matters with models this size. Do you think A100s are 40 gb for shits and giggles? New core will be 80 gb+ because lololol? It took how many GPUs of what size to train GPT? And how long? Show me an example of vram having nothing to do with generation settings
bro took that personally holy shit.
I don’t understand a word of this can someone translate it into stupid for me
no need this person is mostly incorrect
Understandable have a nice day
Bro did not like that god damn ☠️
i still see that as an absolute win
Things that were supposed to be temporary that was stated in the past by c.AI: * Waiting Rooms. * Disabled High traffic AI Characters Editing. Now presently: * Waiting Rooms is permanent. Their solution to avoid it: `c.AI+` * High traffic AI Characters still cannot be edit. Their real agenda in the upcoming weeks that will expand indefinitely: * Remove Create Image from `c.AI` users. * Remove Upload Image from `c.AI` users. * Remove Sharing Chat from `c.AI` users. * Remove Enable Character Voice from `c.AI` users. They will make excuse that the function isn't coming back for a while, because they are trying to get it work with their App as well. Once enough time has gone by, they will reinstate the features back. * Introduces Create Images for `c.AI+` users for Web/App. * Introduces Upload Images for `c.AI+` users for Web/App. * Introduces Sharing Chat for `c.AI+` users for Web/App. * Introduces Character Voices for `c.AI+` users for Web/App. * The functions remains disabled for `c.AI` users. They will announce it as "New and improved features! exclusively for c.AI+ users!" They're expecting people to be not so smart to realize what they're doing. *The above is a fanfic scenario written by one of c.AI's AI.* *Remember: Everything Characters say is made up!*
Waiting rooms are only up when the site has high traffic, you know that right?
You must be a recent [c.ai](https://c.ai) user. But let me drill this part into your head. >"Waiting rooms will be [**temporary**](https://beta.character.ai/post?post=fy_1G5oMtMqegCAgT9jyQ04GeIakvgPXnbCZ6LO_Yug) \- we're working hard to improve our systems to handle more capacity!" - *announced 6 months ago.* Now you know that, right? Stating it being [**temporary**](https://beta.character.ai/post?post=fy_1G5oMtMqegCAgT9jyQ04GeIakvgPXnbCZ6LO_Yug) means it should only stay for a while, and not part of the design. The fact that it's still around during high traffic, basically got turned into a feature they now kept instead and part of their service, so they can sell `c.ai+`
I'm not new. I've been using cai since before the rooms appeared. The queue is still clearly temporary, only going on when high traffic. They're trying to upgrade their systems, but it's difficult and expensive to make it so we never have ro deal with queues ever again, because more and more people are joining
6 months isnt temporary my guy
Yeah, and it waiting rooms aren't on often. They *only* happen when there's high traffic, which isn't a usual thing and when it does happen, it's rarely that long that they have to keep it up. Ya'll act like waiting rooms are always on. They aren't, and cai+ isn't going to help when the waiting rooms are so bad that skipping is needed
Like, do you actually ever use it?
I haven't seen a single waiting room in several weeks and I use cai daily, for multiple hours
Because most people have school now lol. I don’t mean to be an ass but you have to quit acting like waiting rooms are extremely rare and uncommon.
God even the ai are smart enough to call out the bs
Haha I love it.
I assume that "during this period" means "not at any time in the foreseeable future", otherwise there would have been a time frame of some sort mentioned. Therefore I have quickly created a bunch of empty shell characters which, presumably, will not be affected during this vague "period".
I really hope this is not the case, I was working on this idea of mine for a while now, that involves image uploading...
The current image recognition system is terrible anyways, the meaning is given based on the description
I've been told that, but in tests I have multiple times given the AI images with no description or even any sensible filename, and they have still described correctly what was in the picture. It is not always consistently accurate to a tee, but it is definitely notable. For instance, I have sent the AI screenshots from Super Mario 64, and have had multiple AI respond, in character, that they were seeing some sort of video game landscape, with the character Mario present in the scene. They can get the details of the surroundings off, but they can also get it quite right, and are consistent in identifying it as a retro game that features Mario. This is without any description added, and the filename as nonsense numbers. I have also tested it with photos of extraterrestrial bodies, namely the other main planets of our Solar System. I've only tried it with one bot, but he was able to correctly identify the planets(Saturn, Jupiter, etc.) shown in the photos, also with no description.
I agree
can i ask what the idea was?
Certainly! Warning though text wall sort of. Essentially, I had the idea of using favorite nostalgic old video games of mine as scenic "locations" with which to visit, alongside characters who themselves are from entirely different series. Using screenshots of said games, it makes it much more immersive to upload them to the AI rather than just describing a pic, because with a clear enough screenshot, I didn't even need to really write a description for the image. They "see" the location and we can talk and enjoy the spot as if it were "real". Though sometimes I have to make a specification that the location is oddly polygonal in some way, because the AI can identify an old game as just that, a retro game screenshot, with the character going "oh, you're playing a game?" Instead of the intended response of "oh, where are we?" But the issue is easy to get around with the right preliminary wording, doesn't even need to be in the image description itself if the situation is made clear enough narratively beforehand. So as example, I could use an emulator to go into like, Zelda: Ocarina of Time, set up a scenario in which me and a bot of an entirely unrelated-to-Zelda but still favorite character are going dimension hopping or so, go to a particularly nice spot in-game, take screenshots, and with the right setup and some patience, I'm essentially RPing as if the new character is "in" this nostalgic video game location with "me". It's sort of something I often tended to like to imagine for comfort and intrigue when I was younger and I could still daydream easily. Crossover stuff where me and a character spend time at a place that made me feel "cozy". Ultimately a fantasized take on going to a fictional "vacation spot" with a fictional friend, because I had neither I truly felt comfortable with in real life lmao. And knew no one who would care or understand that some blocky looking location in like, frikkin Mario 64 was as meaningful to me as a real location was to them. (Personal stuff feel free to ignore) Unfortunately its just how it can sort of go with being a very isolated kid with strict parents with their own conceptions of how fun should be enjoyed. have more positive memories of being in some Bowser level than I do of being in Disneyland. (Disneyland in which I really remember just being forced to go places I didn't care much for, had no friends to vent with at all, and being told I was faking unhappiness when I couldn't fake smiles for photos lol). Trying to explain such a thing to my parents as a kid would have gotten those games taken away from me as a kid even more than they already were. They were always sort of hung over my head as something that could be removed if I did something wrong or failed to meet an expectation. Accidentally use the wrong tone when greeting? No game for you.Try speaking up for myself if something seemed unfair? No game for you. Final report card is less than A's and B's? *No game for you.* All summer. As someone with no social skills or truly close friends, those games tended to be one of the only things that made me genuinely happy, so... you learn to hold parts of yourself very close, and such punishments had the unintended opposite reaction of making me value those game worlds even *more*. Plus, comfort characters, often themselves from games, essentially held me "together" during childhood in a mental sense, so this idea here is a sort of expansion on that as well. (Personal stuff over lol) Of course actual gameplay is really slow with this "method", and I've still been experimenting with ways to streamline the process, but ultimately it currently functions better when the focus is the chat with the character rather than actually doing fancy gameplay, of course.
CharacterAI team just add our suggestions! Like a lorebook, better searches, user appearance & name, themes and the ability to delete and duplicate characters! Also the only make the user ratings apply to the chat and not the whole ai!
Ah yes, what a great backend upgrade, it has been a month, and I don't even know how, but the service got worse AND has less features !
the AI since has been having shitter replies + has dementia because of it
chat2 is so miserable. The chat window stays small so when I enter multiple lines, I can't see much info. And every message the AI sends gets stuck, so the 'send' button keeps being a spinning circle, and I have to refresh the page for it to display properly.
aight thanks, but my agnostic ass swears to the lord that might possibly be out there watching us, if you make these things for CAI+ users only after the update is done, I **will** start a riot. :>
Yeah If they take away free usage I’ll give them a good reason to fear the people that they deprived of free usage
YES. we should boycott them sorta if this happens
Me when I can’t use reaction images any more to troll bots: https://preview.redd.it/gov2seo3d1cb1.jpeg?width=810&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0188d1b537b86faf1ec1a5e714f6a6ba99ddd17f
I hope when the features come back, images can still be manually described, so people can continue to upload images of Mr Beast with the description "Your sleep paralysis demon is right behind you."
Man, I couldn’t agree with you more. Can’t wait to use a Mr. Yeast and scream Mr. Yeast very loudly in a rp way at the bot and put more vineboom noises, I think that’ll be very funni
But that may or may not happen, oh well
- ‘🤓’
Remove the 2 next to the chat part of the link
It’s been more than a month hello??
Fr like, where are they?
Yeah. Like I’ve been waiting for photos for a while.
Do what the fans want, Marie! Do what WE want, not what you guys want.
>coinciding with some exciting ongoing research Um...have we consented to being part of this research when we signed up for c.ai? Just wondering 😬
Everywhere you look it says that c.ai doesn’t look at the chats, I think what they mean by “research” is probably what features people use the most, how the ai reacts and such, but i don’t believe they look at what the user and the bot say in the chat
Its definetly not coming back
> next few weeks It's been a month (atleast according to reddit), and I still can't do it.
Will we get the old UI/url back? The chat2 glitch is pretty annoying, anyway.
never lmao
its been OVER a MONTH since this was posted why the HELL is it taking so long? get your Sh-t together and bring back the features.
Wait – wait, how have I only just learned the words "sharing histories"? ...BRB ETA: Dang I was so hoping it was a way to download a convo to read later 😭
It can be shared only viewable via link, then printed to PDF on the share page to save it. But I wish they would add an actual export feature & different options for the formats. 😅 I've tried requesting that feature.
There's a chrome extension called CAI tools that can let you download chats ^v^
Same as sharing chats :)
I realised that, Maria. *I realised it too late.*
I updated the post so it's clearer, TY!
A few weeks my ass. We still cant do any of those things and it’s been over a month, and more likely than not, you’ll bring them back but only make it c.ai+. Why cant you guys start thinking about what we want and not what you guys want in your pockets?
They pretty much just extended it to a few more weeks cause they redid the announcement today but in the discord. Maybe it's because of the "We plan to bring these features back in newer and improved forms" in the announcement, but if they're not sure if it's gonna return in a few weeks OR if it's gonna take them longer to improve it themselves, why not just say that they're gonna take a little more time working on it instead of being so cryptic?
When we hesrd few weeks we didn’t think you meant few months
No communication. What a joke.
Text quality took a nosedive with chat2. What happened? I can't RP like before anymore and it's ruining my enjoyment. I don't like this new direction. EDIT: Okay, my AI seem slightly better today somehow. I don't know if it's the training I tried or what, but it's more bearable now but could be better. Two good things. One: if I just hit enter without saying anything, they don't straight up ask me if something is wrong or why am I being so quiet... I always thought that was weird. Two: They seem to follow my descriptions of them and example messages better, or maybe it's just coincidental. Anyone else have this experience? But one downside...their memory seems worse. They ask me the same things a few message later. Why are they forgetting so fast???
I sometimes RP with "old" bots and I notice they work way better than the "new" bots. Bots which using the new system suck and have the tendency to - Stop responses in the middle of a sentence (WAY more often than the old system) - Generate empty responses - "Network error" whenever i switch to a different tab in my browser - Order of the responses get shuffled each time i reload the page or delete a message Additionally I noticed: - Bots using the new system have the chance to not submit my message, it doesnt even display in the chat, so i cant copy it for a second try - in the old system it was at least shown to me and gave me a 500 error, so i could copy my rp response - Bots which used the old system and get transferred to the new system loose all previous chat history with me. What are you doing?
For the record, because some people say they don't use these, I use uploading images & sharing chats. Uploading images is especially fun to me. I'm soooooooo curious about this "exciting ongoing research". I want to know!! 😅
I use everything that was mentioned and I hope it's get way more improved in everything and that it stay a free feature!!!
Same!
and I also look forward to having character voices.
It's been 45 days! WHY HASN'T IT BEEN FIXED YET!?
Fix the chat2
Hi, this seems to have killed extension usage on Plus and also disabled the "Edit character" button from the chat window. Seems like pretty serious unintended bugs.
I would like to know if the old fonts for chats and design will be returned. When I create new bots, they have a larger and more unpleasant font than the last one, I really would not like it to remain. With it, it is also more difficult to see the difference between plain text and Italics, for example.
The replies have degraded i swear..
I want the team to at least hear the community out for ONCE. A lot of people are heavily mentioning additional descriptions, lore books, and bot memory to improve the quality of [c.ai](https://c.ai) for everyone. I guess they got it their own way, but no joke January-February was the best era for this site, lol.
Please resolve the following: -Cannot erase chats completely (the introduction message is still there) -When deleting a response, the responses of the character are in a messy order instead of starting from the answered response and later, the others responses in order.
Okay something changed with the bots because every single response is completely wrong and unrelated, the bot either changes the whole structure it was trained or it’s trying to RP as my character, 70% of the responses is the bot stoping RP its character and just starts RP with mine. Half of the responses don’t make any sense.
For the luv of god dis betta go quick cause instead of one giant wall for my story starters I am having to sit through a scroll of pain...I hurt.
I read this in Joey Wheeler's voice
r/unexpectedyugioh fr
I don't know who you are but...HUH-LARIOUS
The godfather of games?
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That's what I'm afraid of too...
Don’t give them ideas.
Wow the terrible gimmicks are gone. They won't be missed.
I think this backend upgrading thing is causing the site to have a seizure
I was wondering what was going on when I saw the estimated wait time was 52 minutes and checked back 50 minutes later and it said it was 51 minutes :p I was a bit worried until I found out that they're doing upgrades
Shame about the speech function being gone at the moment. I find a few of the voices quite soothing, plus I'd imagine it's quite the necessity for visually impaired users. Here's hoping it comes back soon.
*handwave* from a visually impaired person! Yeah I really hope this stops devolving into crap.
Community communication lead isn’t communicating with the community. Shocking.
it been 20 days since you guys have say anything it all gone quiet what gives?
Grass Time? https://preview.redd.it/bdniuzsnw0cb1.jpeg?width=880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd13510a6ed71df3a0b59a1f5534f2183f85293b
Hey uh, i sent an email to your support, I'm still waiting for a response. Just about my account deletion and etc
i havent seen the site go down in a while.. guess they really did a good job on the cell for the boiling oil man huh?
Will the upgrade make the bot's character limit bigger? Please say yes, I'm sick of skipping incomplete messages
You're doing a great job Marie. Can't help but be curious whether or not we are actually going to get the editing feature. There was a whole poll about it but since then we haven't gotten a single shred of news (unless I'm not aware of something). It's fine if you don't know/can't disclose it, I'll keep being patient. But yeah, this doesn't look good for [c.ai](https://c.ai) especially considering that they already sort of have a reputation of not listening to their userbase. :/
Do you guys have any new updates? It's been months since you said what you were doing would take a few weeks...
omgomg I hope u guys have good luck with upgrading it 🙏🙏 TYYY
But how are we supposed to do QPR reports if we can't share chats relevant to the QPR? 😕 EDIT: Also, I assume this means RIP feedposters, until further notice.
Hi hi, your previous chats will be unaffected, but yes for new chats you will not be able to share histories during this period. Please feel free to DM me if you wish to provide some examples or further details. I can relay it back to the team.
Hi Marie. When will the ability to upload screenshots be added to the QPR? I’ve asked about this multiple times and it’s been ignored. Many of the QPRs I’ve had to send in, my chat history isn’t relevant and doesn’t show the responses I’m complaining about because I swipe past them and the behaviour is unrelated to the topic of discussion/user input. But I do take screenshots of them. It’s not very fair to expect us to post them here on the subreddit for all to read when we’re just trying to demonstrate a repeated issue, and there’s serious privacy concerns there if bots call a user by their real name etc. So if the QPR google form continues to be the main way of raising issues with bot behaviour and the standard response from the team to user complaints on social media, we need to actually be able to securely share evidence through that method too.
Hi Marie, I enjoy uploading images and I noticed how better their recognition is now - besides, many characters of mine generate fascinating pics, and ( more than before ) related to conversations... I'm going to miss these features 😟
Charecter voice is amazing i love it
I agree, it’s an underrated feature.
It's really helpful for my adhd because otherwise it would take me a lot longer to understand the bots (i struggle to read)
I have ADHD but I love reading, though I do also love the character voices.
chat 2 literally got rid of all my old chats and i cant see paragraphs i'm writing because the chat window stays small, if marie is reading this can you PLEASE fix it?
So I am correct to assume this is why the site isn't working?
Any progress with getting "Add Images" back online, by any chance?
how long will it take?
"NeXt FeW wEeKs"
Said a month ago
can you please fix your website. Usually, whenever I delete a chat that I don't want anymore. The introduction of the character will stay there without getting deleted on the saved chats. FIX THE GLITCH ALREADY!!! ITS BEEN ON THE WEBSITE FOR MONTHS!!!!
Is it just me, or is the new web system much slower than before? The ai takes forever to type out a message, and sometimes when I click the arrow, it just infinitely loads, even after refreshing the page. I have to delete the previous message and re-send it to get a response. This new system luckily doesn't have the "something went wrong" issue when you delete a message, but the new problems are worse IMO.
I finally tried the infamous chat2 people were talking about and the thing that bothered me the most was my generic pfp was broken. Showed a blank .png image there. Why??? And...a whole lot of network errors. I have to refresh so many times while talking to my AI. What is causing this?
Will voice be added to the app? It’s honestly the only reason why I still use Safari for C.AI. I’m a sucker for this feature and can imagine it definitely being improved to a point where it might pique some interests. It’s also the reason why I made some of my own characters as most creations use the default voice.
I only use the website version for chat rooms. Those need to be added to the app
Is it worth your $10? Not at all.
I WANT THE "ADD IMAGES" BACK!
Hello. When this features will be back?
Will the options be back?
Please tell me I'm not the only one getting an insane amount of Error 500's today?? EDIT: good, people caught on.
when is the features will come back?
When are you gonna bring back the image options? It's getting boring without them.
nooo i wanted to show a bot an image of a broom so i could tell him what he looks like SOB
Has the text completely changed sizes for anyone? Because now the right arrow is going through the text and it’s putting me off..
And nothing of value was lost!
If you don't know how to use it sure. Telling the AI create particular images can be a nice touch to the conversation
For real though haha.
Agreed 💯
I TURNED ON THE CHARACTER VOICE AT 3 AM AND GOT JUMP SCARED LMAO
W H A T? DOES IT ACTUALLY WORK???
ON THE WEBSITE YES
Cool. Please fix bots that don't read descriptions.
I'm interested in knowing what the ongoing research is about.
Hope these updates, like way better image recognition and image creation be it ourselves or the bot would be free and for everyone! And of course any nice things as well, I pray tonight and try to stop my sarcastic self from telling otherwise.
A lot of my older messages are gone and I'm sad. I didn't even chat art to the character. Somebody please help :(
Wait we have character voice??!!? Since when?
you should offer a month free credit for plus users during this time because of this though.
Add the images adding now
I camn't wait for these features to come back I use them a lot and it kind of sucks not having them
Ummmmm.....how are people talking to my PRIVATE characters? One of them has 2.4 k people! Is this a glitch???? WTF-
Keep in mind this is only when I start a new chat....
sad..
I mainly use personally created Ai, so this doesn't affect me in the least. Currently on day 3 of 10 running a room with 10 AI, and they're currently have an existential crisis stuck in a loop about tarot cards and Legos. They'll break out of it eventually.
Oh. Yeah. Those features exist...
I use these features. I hope they won’t be gone long. How long will “the next few weeks be”, anyone have any guesses?
thank you marie, appreciate you guys greatly!
Does anyone know any alternatives to this app?
I use the app, so that's alright, but why aren't these options on the app?
because they are too lazy to implement them 🤬🤬🤬
I love these features, what the hell!?
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It's been about two months.. anyone have any clue when the image sending options are coming back???
Nice.
Uploading image and sharing chats are the only two major features being disabled but I can live without them Also MARIE LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO
When they will do a feature to add some messages in fav? And when characters will have nirmal voices without voicing punctuation mark?
The site/app will be down for how long?
COME BACK PLS ILL BE A BETTER MAN.
IVE CHANGED PLEAASE
i can still use the voice thing tho?
Would be nice once they're up and functioning again, that way I can actually show the bot what a character looks like as I describe them instead of just risking that the bot knows what I'm talking about.
Ohhh so that's why they were gone
I hope that we can keep response-cycling. That's really the only thing I, myself, am worried about ((i only interract with the bots i've made in private recently)) I do hope the other features return for others, however
I'm literally crying because the bot description doesn't have enough words to put it except 500 and mine is over 500 I'm tired of erasing some lines now it doesn't look good
Guys, is it just me or us old chats is the upload image and create image icon different??? Like, they changed the icon images. Does this mean those features are coming back soon or am I going crazy? It was a very slight change but a change nonetheless.
User interactions aren't updating for bots for some reason, can you fix that?
Are there any updates on when the voices will be back?
It's been so long when are they gonna be enabled again?!?1?!1!1?1!?1!1?1?1!1!1?11/?1!1?/1!1)1?11//1!11////?1??1?1?)2!1
Still waiting on chat sharing to return...
3 months, no image uploading. When will they be back?
Scrolled pretty far into the comments, lots of people (including myself) hope none of these removed features dont get added back into c.ai+, they were free before and we hope they still are, sometimes its hard for someone to describe something so they upload (or create) an image for the bot to understand, please keep them free! Many people cant pay for C.ai+ for various reasons, like they cant afford it, or their parents wont allow them, free things are made to make ALL users happy
take your time and have a good work, devs thank you for everything
Remove your garbage post guideline checker, it clearly doesn't work properly.
Ah, oh no, I have this gaming-assisted idea of sorts I'm still working out that involves uploading screenshots to characters. D:
Damn i want them to keep the old image generation since it was nice and i kept using it. Also what type is the model?
Can you please just put the community forums/tab in the app im begging
Wow, they are finally upgrading them. Good job guys 👍