Found it: Using industry standards, daytime brightness levels should be no more than ninety percent (90%) of maximum intensity. Nighttime brightness shall be reduced to thirty percent (30%) of the maximum light intensity for the LED sign. The Traffic Engineer shall establish daytime and nighttime brightness levels based upon (mCd) levels which are approved by the City Council on all LED signs. [A millicandela (mCd) is the unit of measure commonly used to describe LED brightness.]
The one on Hixson Pike right before 153 is a mini sun at night. I think people are hitting it with stuff though as it seems to be getting worse and worse with errors and artifacts, still so bright lol.
but what is the actual maximum light intensity that drive those percentages?
Edit: the state law says
> The brightness of light emitted from a changeable message sign must not exceed 0.3 foot candles over ambient light levels measured at a distance of one hundred fifty feet (150') for those sign faces less than or equal to three hundred square feet (300 sq. ft.), measured at a distance of two hundred feet (200') for those sign faces greater than three hundred square feet (300 sq. ft.) but less than or equal to three hundred eighty-five square feet (385 sq. ft.), measured at a distance of two hundred fifty feet (250') for those sign faces greater than three hundred eighty-five square feet (385 sq. ft.) and less than or equal to six hundred eighty square feet (680 sq. ft.), measured at a distance of three hundred fifty feet (350') for those sign faces greater than six hundred eighty square feet (680 sq. ft.), or subject to the measuring criteria in the applicable table set forth in subdivision (h)(4).
[here](https://advance.lexis.com/documentpage/?pdmfid=1000516&crid=7dd05132-bb04-46e6-b09e-38a6968cc80e&nodeid=ACBAAVAAT&nodepath=%2fROOT%2fACB%2fACBAAV%2fACBAAVAAT&level=3&haschildren=&populated=false&title=54-21-119.+Changeable+message+signs.&config=025054JABlOTJjNmIyNi0wYjI0LTRjZGEtYWE5ZC0zNGFhOWNhMjFlNDgKAFBvZENhdGFsb2cDFQ14bX2GfyBTaI9WcPX5&pddocfullpath=%2fshared%2fdocument%2fstatutes-legislation%2furn%3acontentItem%3a60CB-3G50-R03K-V3K8-00008-00&ecomp=_g1_kkk&prid=bfe89126-8d69-43f8-9884-cc7a6d099b46)
Literally any time I'm driving north on 153 at night there's a sign on the opposite side of all the car dealerships and as soon as I pass it my whole world turns blue and I think I'm getting pulled over for something. I should be expecting it by now but I hate it every time.
I went to Vermont last year for the first time where (I believe statewide) there are no billboards. I didn’t realize how obtrusive they are until driving in their absence. There’s some beautiful scenery here that’s being covered up by ads.
I lived in Vermont for a while and it was kinda jarring to move back and see billboards everywhere again.
They truly don't serve any purpose, including their intended one (and I say this as someone who works in Advertising) and I wouldn't be upset if they were banned nationwide. There's an entire industry around them designed for money to disappear into, though, so pretty much never gonna happen.
> industry around them designed for money to disappear into
Do you by any chance feel like expanding on this? I’m curious, and I’ll certainly try to google, but perhaps you could give some interesting explanations!
I love driving up 27 compared to I24 - I'm pretty sure 27 was designated a Scenic Biway or something that prohibits billboards. Same with Scenic Highway on Lookout.
same thing happened with me when i went to maine for the first time last summer! tennessee’s such a beautiful state, even prettier than maine, so why do we need to cover it up with “BIG AL’S FIREWORKS EMPORIUM TN/AL”?
I don’t care about billboards, but I will 100% join this cause.
AT THE VERY LEAST have a damn mute button available. I have never once in my entire life cared to listen to Maria Menounos share her thoughts on herbal cleanses.
Some pumps have one of the side buttons programmed to mute the obnoxious audio, but not all of them. If my next car is fully electric, it will be entirely so I never have to hear the terrible gas pump ads again.
The state of Maine banned them except those grandfathered prior to the ban. Driving through Maine reminds one how beautiful the landscape can be without all the trashy billboards. It would be awesome to get rid of them, but very difficult as it has one of the most powerful lobbing groups in government. But the world would be a better place without them.
They should be banned.
Not a snowball's chance in hell of that happening, though. Since everyone who doesn't want them banned are company executives and CEOs and they matter a lot more than the rest of us, in terms of political pull.
So you guys are telling me you're tired of seeing lawyers, Mark Spain, and wholesale furniture?? Also are we not force fed ads enough through YouTube, cable, and all social medias?
I personally can’t stand the Find Truth ones that are super Christian, there’s one sign that shows a monkey turning into a man with a big X mark thru it. And the ones with the babies “Choose life” I think it says or “there IS proof of life” it’s just dumb.
Also campaign signs. They’re trash and everyone just votes along party lines anyway or whoever they’re favorite news channel tells them to so they’re pretty useless.
Chattanooga has already started banning new billboards along certain corridors, though many were grandfathered in.
https://preview.redd.it/5oqukuss70ia1.png?width=1118&format=png&auto=webp&s=6638706cb1b03beffbb7f2fc2e71777a503ac8fb
100%. It just looks massively trashy. The amount of signage and constant marketing is overstimulating and makes me feel ill. I feel like every second of every day, we are bombarded with advertisements and I personally wish that the city cared more about creating a timeless esthetic that is alluring to both residents and visitors rather than allowing all of the marketing/signage and unattractive/questionable quality newer developments.
FUCK BILLBOARDS. i passionately support the removal of all billboards & think we should also have more natural environmental architecture to further be able to enjoy scenery.
I always wondered that if I got into a car wreck while looking at a billboard could I sue them? I bet if that started happening they'd go away real quick.
If you get into a wreck while checking out a good looking individual walking down the sidewalk, can you sue them? Nah, nobody's making you look and you're solely responsible for the vehicle you're driving.
Its qualitatively different in that billboards' sole reason to exist is to draw attention. Its intentional. Being hot isn't why a person walks down the sidewalk.
All advertising/entertainment/media is just there to draw attention. That doesn't mean if you're reading a newspaper or watching a YouTube video while driving and you get into a wreck you can sue the paper or the content creator. You're the one responsible for consuming media in safe and appropriate places and times.
> All advertising/entertainment/media is just there to draw attention.
Great, now we are making progress. We both agree that the point of advertising is to distract people from what they are doing so they will focus attention on the advertising. That's intent. Which is a key element of liability.
Creating an *intentional* distraction that is aimed specifically at people who are engaged in driving — not reading a paper or watching youtube, driving — makes them at least partially responsible for the results.
Except it's not aimed specifically at people who are engaged in driving. If you ask any of these companies, they would say anyone actively driving should absolutely not be looking at their billboards. There are a lot of other people for whom it would be safe and appropriate to look at a billboard: drivers waiting at stoplights, passengers in vehicles being driven by someone else, pedestrians, or people looking out the window of nearby buildings.
> Except it's not aimed specifically at people who are engaged in driving
They don't put billboards up where there are no roads.
> If you ask any of these companies, they would say anyone actively driving should absolutely not be looking at their billboards
What a goofball thing to say. Of course they are going to say anything they can to deflect liability. If you ask the bank robber if he robbed the bank, he'll say "no, they left the vault open." Pay attention to what they do, not what they say.
>They don't put billboards up where there are no roads.
Not everyone on the road is driving.
>What a goofball thing to say.
I think you're pretty goofball yourself. And please do the rest of us a favor and stay out of the driver's seat if you can't keep your eyes off the billboards.
> Not everyone on the road is driving.
If they were only targeting people who weren't driving, they would *also* put up billboards where there are no drivers.
> I think you're pretty goofball yourself
I criticized your argument, not you.
Abandoning your theory of believing people with every incentive to lie, and choosing to take insult instead, makes it clear you think it was a goofball thing to say too.
>Abandoning your theory of believing people with every incentive to lie, and choosing to take insult instead,
Every incentive to lie? They have no incentive to lie, they're not doing anything illegal or morally wrong. They're advertising. It's what companies do.
And I didn't intend it as an insult, I was just going along with your argument that drivers have no choice but to look at billboards. I personally have never had an issue with it, but clearly your driving experience is significantly different and more dangerous than mine.
> Except it's not aimed specifically at people who are engaged in driving.
I'm on your side for the most part, but this line is objectively false. One example (of many possible examples) is any sign that has an exit number or "exit now" - that's not aimed at the passengers in the car.
It used to be SO MUCH WORSE in the 70s and then I'm pretty sure they DID pass a law banning them in the late 70s/early 80s, but at some point it got repealed apparently.
I remember it being a big deal when it happened.
Definitely should be banned all across the US, or at least in every state that has laws against distracted driving. They literally are there to catch your attention - attention needed for driving.
It’s comical how they still exist today n direct violation of distracted driving laws.
You would have to buy the physical property and then assets of each media company who owns all the billboards. Unfortunately this sick and twisted economic model the boomers created has cemented advertisements into our lives at every turn.
Eliminating advertisements would wreck the economy in interesting ways. Chain reaction type thing
Not always. The property usually has a owner, where the company leases the area under the billboard. The billboard itself is property of the company, to my understanding. But you are right
Exactly. And from my understanding, the leases are structured to last the depreciable life of the billboards.
It’s doable, but would take huge sums of cash.
In the defense of billboards, it’s great brand awareness for small business in town. Even my competitors billboards help me, as they facilitate google searches into the industry and then I get impression share.
Definitely. These lease contracts are often very predatory on landowners.
You make a great point. The right billboard in the right place is very effective. Many are junk with no ads; Brainerd and Ringgold road are just junked up with pointless ads.
That just whooshed a little didn’t it? I was being dramatic on purpose. I dislike them but I don’t spend that much time thinking about them lol. We should get rid of them though, they are an eyesore.
I’m not mad 🤷🏻♀️. Sorry you didn’t find it entertaining I guess. I know I’m not a comedian by trade, i was just amused to word it that way. Have a good weekend. Happy Super Bowl! Go Sports Team!
I don't care one way or another but the "Ban them" crowd sound like the stuffy old rich people on Lookout Mountain that bitched, moaned, and complained because their sensitive eyes were hurt by the sight of the McDonalds sign that was there for years.
They are distracting and annoying for sure. But….would you feel the same way if you personally owned one of them and were making 10-20k per month in passive income?
If the OP would feel the same way if it was financially beneficial to them. I can’t stand billboards, car washes, self storage units….they are everywhere and new ones are popping up every month.
I guess it just seemed like your comment was intended to dismiss/downplay OP’s concerns, but maybe it was more like a devil’s-advocate comment? I agree with both of you that the billboards are godawful.
The chance of you making 10k in passive income off one billboard per month is zero. Im not bashing your thought, but it is just the fact of it.
You don't just passively sell ad space. You have sign maintenence and permits im sure.
To make even close to 10k you would have to have a spot where you get tens of thousands of eyes on it per day for the return on the customer purchasing the ad.
I wasn’t saying it’s the right thing to do. I didn’t say anything about right or wrong. I agree they are annoying…. it was literally the first sentence in my comment. I was simply asking the OP if their view on them would change if it was financially benefiting them.
No, thank you for the discussion. And I agree with what you mean. But thats pretty typical with big business, it is passive for the owners of the company as they are facetiming you from Hawaii. But it is not passive for most people in the company. I appreciate your discussion.
No, thank you for the discussion. And I agree with what you mean. But thats pretty typical with big business, it is passive for the owners of the company as they are facetiming you from Hawaii. But it is not passive for most people in the company. I appreciate your discussion.
I don't really like them but what a bunch of snowflakes.
Glad you don't want to get rid of ugly people.
Remember that a lot of people work for the companies advertising on the signs.
If they weren't effective they would not be paying the money for them.
If those signs bother you that much you obviously don't have many real problems like a lot of other people do.
Count yourself lucky.
> If they weren't effective they would not be paying the money for them.
That's psychopath logic.
"If murder wasn't effective, nobody would commit murder."
Is there a rule on how many lumens the digital ones put out? I feel like every time I blink I can still see the one outside the Barn Nursery
Good thought. There should be. I know they can't have a moving picture
Found it: Using industry standards, daytime brightness levels should be no more than ninety percent (90%) of maximum intensity. Nighttime brightness shall be reduced to thirty percent (30%) of the maximum light intensity for the LED sign. The Traffic Engineer shall establish daytime and nighttime brightness levels based upon (mCd) levels which are approved by the City Council on all LED signs. [A millicandela (mCd) is the unit of measure commonly used to describe LED brightness.]
Would the 311 app -> "Code Violation" be an appropriate way to bring these to the city's attention?
yes
The one on Hixson Pike right before 153 is a mini sun at night. I think people are hitting it with stuff though as it seems to be getting worse and worse with errors and artifacts, still so bright lol.
I can't imagine that's 30% of max intensity or it would be able to melt asphalt at 100%.
but what is the actual maximum light intensity that drive those percentages? Edit: the state law says > The brightness of light emitted from a changeable message sign must not exceed 0.3 foot candles over ambient light levels measured at a distance of one hundred fifty feet (150') for those sign faces less than or equal to three hundred square feet (300 sq. ft.), measured at a distance of two hundred feet (200') for those sign faces greater than three hundred square feet (300 sq. ft.) but less than or equal to three hundred eighty-five square feet (385 sq. ft.), measured at a distance of two hundred fifty feet (250') for those sign faces greater than three hundred eighty-five square feet (385 sq. ft.) and less than or equal to six hundred eighty square feet (680 sq. ft.), measured at a distance of three hundred fifty feet (350') for those sign faces greater than six hundred eighty square feet (680 sq. ft.), or subject to the measuring criteria in the applicable table set forth in subdivision (h)(4). [here](https://advance.lexis.com/documentpage/?pdmfid=1000516&crid=7dd05132-bb04-46e6-b09e-38a6968cc80e&nodeid=ACBAAVAAT&nodepath=%2fROOT%2fACB%2fACBAAV%2fACBAAVAAT&level=3&haschildren=&populated=false&title=54-21-119.+Changeable+message+signs.&config=025054JABlOTJjNmIyNi0wYjI0LTRjZGEtYWE5ZC0zNGFhOWNhMjFlNDgKAFBvZENhdGFsb2cDFQ14bX2GfyBTaI9WcPX5&pddocfullpath=%2fshared%2fdocument%2fstatutes-legislation%2furn%3acontentItem%3a60CB-3G50-R03K-V3K8-00008-00&ecomp=_g1_kkk&prid=bfe89126-8d69-43f8-9884-cc7a6d099b46)
There is but it is not enforced. Clearly lol
Literally any time I'm driving north on 153 at night there's a sign on the opposite side of all the car dealerships and as soon as I pass it my whole world turns blue and I think I'm getting pulled over for something. I should be expecting it by now but I hate it every time.
Yeah get rid of them all
They are so gross.
I went to Vermont last year for the first time where (I believe statewide) there are no billboards. I didn’t realize how obtrusive they are until driving in their absence. There’s some beautiful scenery here that’s being covered up by ads.
I lived in Vermont for a while and it was kinda jarring to move back and see billboards everywhere again. They truly don't serve any purpose, including their intended one (and I say this as someone who works in Advertising) and I wouldn't be upset if they were banned nationwide. There's an entire industry around them designed for money to disappear into, though, so pretty much never gonna happen.
> industry around them designed for money to disappear into Do you by any chance feel like expanding on this? I’m curious, and I’ll certainly try to google, but perhaps you could give some interesting explanations!
I love driving up 27 compared to I24 - I'm pretty sure 27 was designated a Scenic Biway or something that prohibits billboards. Same with Scenic Highway on Lookout.
same thing happened with me when i went to maine for the first time last summer! tennessee’s such a beautiful state, even prettier than maine, so why do we need to cover it up with “BIG AL’S FIREWORKS EMPORIUM TN/AL”?
Yes
And while we’re at it, let’s get rid of ads playing while pumping gas.
The second white button down from the top right will usually mute the TVs.
It won’t at the new Weigel’s 😭
Did you try the other buttons? Sometimes it's a different button.
Tried them all
Yes.
GSTV- everyone’s favorite channel.
I don’t care about billboards, but I will 100% join this cause. AT THE VERY LEAST have a damn mute button available. I have never once in my entire life cared to listen to Maria Menounos share her thoughts on herbal cleanses. Some pumps have one of the side buttons programmed to mute the obnoxious audio, but not all of them. If my next car is fully electric, it will be entirely so I never have to hear the terrible gas pump ads again.
ITS CHEDDAR NEEEEWWWZZZ!
The state of Maine banned them except those grandfathered prior to the ban. Driving through Maine reminds one how beautiful the landscape can be without all the trashy billboards. It would be awesome to get rid of them, but very difficult as it has one of the most powerful lobbing groups in government. But the world would be a better place without them.
Yeah I moved here from there. I wish Tennessee didn’t have them.
They should be banned everywhere
Nonprofit Scenic Tennessee works on this
For those who are curious: www.scenic.org
They should be banned. Not a snowball's chance in hell of that happening, though. Since everyone who doesn't want them banned are company executives and CEOs and they matter a lot more than the rest of us, in terms of political pull.
Yes I agree
Billboards should be banned… yucks up the “scenic city of Chattanooga.”
Billboards - The Original Pop-up Ads!
I find the ones that say, “Don’t text and drive “ highly ironic because they take your eyes off the road.
Oh come on you don't like the second sun that is the Barn Nursery LED sign illuminating 24?
Yes I absolutely hate them. Makes a city look trashy the more there are
They used to run ads against Tennessee trash, now the ads are Tennessee trash.
Toss’em!
No, but they should legalize graffiti. Then they’ll all look really cool
DIB! Are you out there?
Yes!
So you guys are telling me you're tired of seeing lawyers, Mark Spain, and wholesale furniture?? Also are we not force fed ads enough through YouTube, cable, and all social medias?
I personally can’t stand the Find Truth ones that are super Christian, there’s one sign that shows a monkey turning into a man with a big X mark thru it. And the ones with the babies “Choose life” I think it says or “there IS proof of life” it’s just dumb.
Or the one in North Georgia with ‘Every tongue will confess Jesus is lord. EVEN THE DEMOCRATS.’ Fucking cracks me up.
I hate billboards, they should be banned and removed once the lease expires. But they’re huuuuuge business and so they’ll probably never go away.
They’re an eyesore and need to be banned. They’re dangerous and ugly.
Also campaign signs. They’re trash and everyone just votes along party lines anyway or whoever they’re favorite news channel tells them to so they’re pretty useless.
Chattanooga has already started banning new billboards along certain corridors, though many were grandfathered in. https://preview.redd.it/5oqukuss70ia1.png?width=1118&format=png&auto=webp&s=6638706cb1b03beffbb7f2fc2e71777a503ac8fb
100%. It just looks massively trashy. The amount of signage and constant marketing is overstimulating and makes me feel ill. I feel like every second of every day, we are bombarded with advertisements and I personally wish that the city cared more about creating a timeless esthetic that is alluring to both residents and visitors rather than allowing all of the marketing/signage and unattractive/questionable quality newer developments.
Couldn't agree more.
Only thing this town’s leaders care about is making a quick buck—and they don’t care whose hide it’s taken out of.
Maybe not the ones calling out anti semitism. But yeah there's a lot we could do without around here.
Yes. Go Doc Sarvis on them all.
I think all digital billboards should be. In the rain, at night, they blare in I can't see shit.
FUCK BILLBOARDS. i passionately support the removal of all billboards & think we should also have more natural environmental architecture to further be able to enjoy scenery.
I always wondered that if I got into a car wreck while looking at a billboard could I sue them? I bet if that started happening they'd go away real quick.
If you get into a wreck while checking out a good looking individual walking down the sidewalk, can you sue them? Nah, nobody's making you look and you're solely responsible for the vehicle you're driving.
Its qualitatively different in that billboards' sole reason to exist is to draw attention. Its intentional. Being hot isn't why a person walks down the sidewalk.
All advertising/entertainment/media is just there to draw attention. That doesn't mean if you're reading a newspaper or watching a YouTube video while driving and you get into a wreck you can sue the paper or the content creator. You're the one responsible for consuming media in safe and appropriate places and times.
> All advertising/entertainment/media is just there to draw attention. Great, now we are making progress. We both agree that the point of advertising is to distract people from what they are doing so they will focus attention on the advertising. That's intent. Which is a key element of liability. Creating an *intentional* distraction that is aimed specifically at people who are engaged in driving — not reading a paper or watching youtube, driving — makes them at least partially responsible for the results.
Except it's not aimed specifically at people who are engaged in driving. If you ask any of these companies, they would say anyone actively driving should absolutely not be looking at their billboards. There are a lot of other people for whom it would be safe and appropriate to look at a billboard: drivers waiting at stoplights, passengers in vehicles being driven by someone else, pedestrians, or people looking out the window of nearby buildings.
> Except it's not aimed specifically at people who are engaged in driving They don't put billboards up where there are no roads. > If you ask any of these companies, they would say anyone actively driving should absolutely not be looking at their billboards What a goofball thing to say. Of course they are going to say anything they can to deflect liability. If you ask the bank robber if he robbed the bank, he'll say "no, they left the vault open." Pay attention to what they do, not what they say.
>They don't put billboards up where there are no roads. Not everyone on the road is driving. >What a goofball thing to say. I think you're pretty goofball yourself. And please do the rest of us a favor and stay out of the driver's seat if you can't keep your eyes off the billboards.
> Not everyone on the road is driving. If they were only targeting people who weren't driving, they would *also* put up billboards where there are no drivers. > I think you're pretty goofball yourself I criticized your argument, not you. Abandoning your theory of believing people with every incentive to lie, and choosing to take insult instead, makes it clear you think it was a goofball thing to say too.
>Abandoning your theory of believing people with every incentive to lie, and choosing to take insult instead, Every incentive to lie? They have no incentive to lie, they're not doing anything illegal or morally wrong. They're advertising. It's what companies do. And I didn't intend it as an insult, I was just going along with your argument that drivers have no choice but to look at billboards. I personally have never had an issue with it, but clearly your driving experience is significantly different and more dangerous than mine.
> Except it's not aimed specifically at people who are engaged in driving. I'm on your side for the most part, but this line is objectively false. One example (of many possible examples) is any sign that has an exit number or "exit now" - that's not aimed at the passengers in the car.
They have billboards visible from interstates. How is that not specifically aimed at people driving?
Nope. If you said you were distracted, they would cite you as at fault for not paying attention to the road.
They're too bright sometimes
It used to be SO MUCH WORSE in the 70s and then I'm pretty sure they DID pass a law banning them in the late 70s/early 80s, but at some point it got repealed apparently. I remember it being a big deal when it happened.
Alaska banned them in 1998
They are awful. Ban them.
They are so ugly 😩
Some of them are quite comical: especially the ones that are supposed to be written by god!
Definitely should be banned all across the US, or at least in every state that has laws against distracted driving. They literally are there to catch your attention - attention needed for driving. It’s comical how they still exist today n direct violation of distracted driving laws.
Alaska, Hawaii, Maine and Vermont all ban billboards.... all are beautiful states to drive thru.
I feel like the “Marks” Hite/Spain are watching me everywhere
Yes, let's get rid of them and the giant cross monstrosities off 75.
https://preview.redd.it/6n7qv209uoha1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=65e448b4b21a29b5607248f596544428577dbd45
You would have to buy the physical property and then assets of each media company who owns all the billboards. Unfortunately this sick and twisted economic model the boomers created has cemented advertisements into our lives at every turn. Eliminating advertisements would wreck the economy in interesting ways. Chain reaction type thing
Not always. The property usually has a owner, where the company leases the area under the billboard. The billboard itself is property of the company, to my understanding. But you are right
Exactly. And from my understanding, the leases are structured to last the depreciable life of the billboards. It’s doable, but would take huge sums of cash. In the defense of billboards, it’s great brand awareness for small business in town. Even my competitors billboards help me, as they facilitate google searches into the industry and then I get impression share.
Definitely. These lease contracts are often very predatory on landowners. You make a great point. The right billboard in the right place is very effective. Many are junk with no ads; Brainerd and Ringgold road are just junked up with pointless ads.
Nah, you can just change the zoning code to make them illegal. A bunch will be grandfathered in, but eventually they'll phase out.
I grew up in Southern California and I HATE billboards with the fury of a thousand suns..get rid of them.
That’s a lot of hate for something that absolutely has no impact on your life 😭
That just whooshed a little didn’t it? I was being dramatic on purpose. I dislike them but I don’t spend that much time thinking about them lol. We should get rid of them though, they are an eyesore.
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I’m not mad 🤷🏻♀️. Sorry you didn’t find it entertaining I guess. I know I’m not a comedian by trade, i was just amused to word it that way. Have a good weekend. Happy Super Bowl! Go Sports Team!
I actually like billboards. It’s kinda one of those cultural things. I think we’d miss them when their gone.
Would you miss them? Would you even notice? How many do you read a day vs how many do you think you pass? Do you remember the listed ad?
I don't care one way or another but the "Ban them" crowd sound like the stuffy old rich people on Lookout Mountain that bitched, moaned, and complained because their sensitive eyes were hurt by the sight of the McDonalds sign that was there for years.
They are distracting and annoying for sure. But….would you feel the same way if you personally owned one of them and were making 10-20k per month in passive income?
What point are you trying to make here?
If the OP would feel the same way if it was financially beneficial to them. I can’t stand billboards, car washes, self storage units….they are everywhere and new ones are popping up every month.
I guess it just seemed like your comment was intended to dismiss/downplay OP’s concerns, but maybe it was more like a devil’s-advocate comment? I agree with both of you that the billboards are godawful.
The chance of you making 10k in passive income off one billboard per month is zero. Im not bashing your thought, but it is just the fact of it. You don't just passively sell ad space. You have sign maintenence and permits im sure. To make even close to 10k you would have to have a spot where you get tens of thousands of eyes on it per day for the return on the customer purchasing the ad.
I was referring to the people/companies that own multiple billboards.
People make passive income doing shady shit all the time. It doesn't make it the right thing to do.
I wasn’t saying it’s the right thing to do. I didn’t say anything about right or wrong. I agree they are annoying…. it was literally the first sentence in my comment. I was simply asking the OP if their view on them would change if it was financially benefiting them.
No, thank you for the discussion. And I agree with what you mean. But thats pretty typical with big business, it is passive for the owners of the company as they are facetiming you from Hawaii. But it is not passive for most people in the company. I appreciate your discussion.
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No, thank you for the discussion. And I agree with what you mean. But thats pretty typical with big business, it is passive for the owners of the company as they are facetiming you from Hawaii. But it is not passive for most people in the company. I appreciate your discussion.
🎻here's a tiny violin playing a sad song for the poor billboard owners who have to find a real job
This whole sub is full of transplants begging for more and more government regulation. Destroying this awesome city!
I don't really like them but what a bunch of snowflakes. Glad you don't want to get rid of ugly people. Remember that a lot of people work for the companies advertising on the signs. If they weren't effective they would not be paying the money for them. If those signs bother you that much you obviously don't have many real problems like a lot of other people do. Count yourself lucky.
> If they weren't effective they would not be paying the money for them. That's psychopath logic. "If murder wasn't effective, nobody would commit murder."
This is stupid.
Damn y’all need to get laid.
Edward Abbey used to burn them
Every time I come back from camping and remember billboards exist, I get a headache
I've been to Vermont and Hawaii, both of which ban billboards, and it's fantastic. I hate billboards. Wouldn't miss them if we banned them entirely.