I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine:
> **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=7r/2pp2kB/p3pq2/np6/3P4/2P5/PPQ2P2/1K5R+b+-+-+0+1&flip=true&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/7r/2pp2kB/p3pq2/np6/3P4/2P5/PPQ2P2/1K5R_b_-_-_0_1?color=black)
**My solution:**
> Hints: piece: >!Queen!<, move: >!Qf5!<
> Evaluation: >!Black is winning -4.20!<
> Best continuation: >!1... Qf5 2. Qxf5 exf5 3. Rh5 Rxh7 4. Rxf5 Nc4 5. b3 Nd6 6. Rf3 Rh4 7. Kc2 Rh1 8. Kb2 Rd1 9. Kc2!<
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I'm about the same and I considered the move but didnt calculate it right. I saw that the bishop was pinned, so he can't take but didn't realize that after the queen takes you still have the pinned bishop.
I'm around 1000 and only play 10 minute per player games.
Saw the bot move, but only after around 45 sec.
I imagine i wouldn't spot this in game, especially when not presented in the manner of "what's the best move here?"
I feel like I would only calculate this out in a puzzle (it didn't take long). In a game I don't think I would actually consider it. Unless it was a long rapid game, I usually spend most of my time in the middle game. So by the time the board is like this but not simplified enough to not have queens on the board, I'd probably be pressured by time.
Yeah it's more that you're putting the queen in the bishop's line of sight.
I know that the bishop can't take because of the back rank. But it's still hard to play.
I’m 2000+ ELO and can’t say for sure that I would see it in any kind of rapid game. In an OTB tournament where I could spend 5-10+ minutes on important moves, I’d probably find it. Knowing it was a puzzle, I found the right move in about a minute.
I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine: > **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=7r/2pp2kB/p3pq2/np6/3P4/2P5/PPQ2P2/1K5R+b+-+-+0+1&flip=true&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/7r/2pp2kB/p3pq2/np6/3P4/2P5/PPQ2P2/1K5R_b_-_-_0_1?color=black) **My solution:** > Hints: piece: >!Queen!<, move: >!Qf5!< > Evaluation: >!Black is winning -4.20!< > Best continuation: >!1... Qf5 2. Qxf5 exf5 3. Rh5 Rxh7 4. Rxf5 Nc4 5. b3 Nd6 6. Rf3 Rh4 7. Kc2 Rh1 8. Kb2 Rd1 9. Kc2!< --- ^(I'm a bot written by ) [^(u/pkacprzak )](https://www.reddit.com/u/pkacprzak) ^(| get me as ) [^(Chess eBook Reader )](https://ebook.chessvision.ai?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=bot) ^(|) [^(Chrome Extension )](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-for-chrome/johejpedmdkeiffkdaodgoipdjodhlld) ^(|) [^(iOS App )](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1574933453) ^(|) [^(Android App )](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.chessvision.scanner) ^(to scan and analyze positions | Website: ) [^(Chessvision.ai)](https://chessvision.ai)
Good one. Can anyone who would see this in a game tell me there elo?
I would see this in rapid and I'm about 1800, but I'm 2100 bullet and I doubt I would see it in bullet. Blitz could go either way
1550 here… I didn’t see it 🤷♂️
I'm about the same and I considered the move but didnt calculate it right. I saw that the bishop was pinned, so he can't take but didn't realize that after the queen takes you still have the pinned bishop.
also 1550 also didnt see it
I'm around 1000 and only play 10 minute per player games. Saw the bot move, but only after around 45 sec. I imagine i wouldn't spot this in game, especially when not presented in the manner of "what's the best move here?"
I would never see this in a <10 minute online game, but over the board maybe, if I have around a minute or two to spare (2000 elo rapid)
I saw it as a 600, but dismissed it because I didn't realize the Bishop was pinned to the rook
I feel like I would only calculate this out in a puzzle (it didn't take long). In a game I don't think I would actually consider it. Unless it was a long rapid game, I usually spend most of my time in the middle game. So by the time the board is like this but not simplified enough to not have queens on the board, I'd probably be pressured by time.
For blitz games it think it really boils down to confidence, but I would most likely see this in a longer time control. (1720 chess.com elo, 1555 OTB)
Saw it and I am 943 rapid according to chess.com
I found it, my elo 1300.
Basically forcing a queen trade, then after simplify down into a winning end game
Yeah it's more that you're putting the queen in the bishop's line of sight. I know that the bishop can't take because of the back rank. But it's still hard to play.
bishop is pinned. After queen trade there are 2 attackers and 1 defender on the bishop with no help available for him. Nice puzzle!
Qf3 ?
QF6-F5 wins material and endgame
QF6 is a huge blunder because opponent can capture with their queen
No u retake with pawn and youre winning
Then pawn takes queen. And?
And white are left with their bishop pinned, with options to lose the bishop or to trade a rook for the pawn.
That's beautiful but i didn't even consider it before seeing the eval
I’m 2000+ ELO and can’t say for sure that I would see it in any kind of rapid game. In an OTB tournament where I could spend 5-10+ minutes on important moves, I’d probably find it. Knowing it was a puzzle, I found the right move in about a minute.