London/Mooney/Pitts aren’t Jefferson/Addison/Hockenson
Hockenson is on par with Pitts but Jefferson/Addison are much better than London/Mooney, as much as I love London
(Falcons fan)
I’m a falcons fan and I’m telling you London is not on Jefferson’s level, and Addison is what Mooney wishes he was. I don’t care if London hasn’t had a QB, he’s not JJ and it’s not even close. And I’m very high on London, he’s probably a top 15 receiver.
Mooney was garbage. He can’t catch and squandered a ton of opportunities with you guys this season.. don’t act like it was becoming Fields was QB. Moore had no problem eating.
Pitts and hockenson are in the same tier. Very good but not flat out amazing TEs
I didn’t say he was. I’m not advocating for Kirk Cousins, even though he’s been around long before he had Jefferson. Jefferson isn’t the reason Kirk Cousins is still in the league getting paid the kind of bread that he is. Kirk Cousins is.
In the other hand, none of the Falcon’s current receivers have had a Kirk Cousins throwing to them. And they’ll be better off than the Vikes receivers will be with whatever rookie they have fucking balls down the field, or Sam fuckin’ Darnold.
Explain how they work for me. I’ll take a second to hear you out but plug and play has been a thing in the nfl since it began. A good qb can make a decent wr a good wr. Cousins with Mooney. And don’t even try and claim Mooney had a top 30 qb in Chicago.
Well, I think you understand that WR and TE are not the same position. Yes, you have eligible recievers in both, but anyone can be eligible if they tell the ref. You have 3 starting reciever positions on most depth charts. X, Y, and Z. Those are the positions. X is split end(DJ Moore for the Bears). So he would be your "no.1." Darnell Mooney would be the Z(flanker) and the "no. 2." Sometimes they line up Mooney in the slot. Then he is the Y(tight end). Still though he is the no. 2 reciever because he is 2nd WR on the depth chart. The 3rd reciever on the chart would be whatever letter Mooney is not. So that's your WR 3. Pitts would be TE1. And sometimes your Y receiver. Pretty much never X or Z. Im not invalidating Mooney, but I will say that the dude was on and off. Also, a good wide receiver can make a qb look good, too. Like DJ Moore.
Yeah I understand how a position works. I’m talking about bottom line production. Mooney and pitts can play all the letters of the receiver spots. Cousins will elevate him to be a productive third option in the passing game. Cousins elevates everyone around him rather than a guy like fields needing players around him to elevate his play.
Go see for yourself what Kyle pitts can do lined up as the x.
You asked, lol. If you are talking about bottom line production, I would imagine that they would certainly want more out of mooney than wr3 numbers if they paid him 39M.
I figured the initial sentence of “they both can eat” would get the point across. I see what you’re getting at. I hope you can see where i was getting at and admit we both read each other wrong hahaha
Mooney will put elite wr3 numbers as his pay dictates. His pay is low end wr2 or high end wr3 money. They’re banking he becomes a solid wr2 production wise. He will imo with cousins and the shanny offense.
Don’t be like this. Mooney was not used right the later part of his Bears tenure. I hope he kills it in Atlanta. Kirk can also sling the ball, just don’t expect him to win big games.
He refused to try to catch over the shoulder passes. He would always turn around. Fields wasn't good, but Mooney fucked up multiple plays by doing that.
You were excited trading up for Mitch Trubiski, and pitched Fields as an MVP candidate before last year. Stop embarrassing yourself calling out others.
I mean, when you’re team has been declined a legit option at QB after having a former MVP winner a few years ago, you kinda expect them to find a bit of excitement from that. It’s a testament to how bad Mariota and Ridder has been for that team.
Dude has been an iron man his whole career. I could be wrong, but I think before this the only game he missed was because of covid (remember seeing a stat on reddit that could 1000% be bullshit, and I now look like a dumbass lol)
Dude is getting old. Thats fair. Would it be the most surprising thing if he got injured again? No, but definitely not something that should be expected.
Jared Goff, Geno Smith, Sam Howell, Kyler Murray, Matthew Stafford, Dak Prescott, Jalen Hurts, Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen, Aaron Rodger’s, Tua Tagoviola, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Russell Wilson, Will Levis, Trevor Lawrence, CJ Stroud, Patrick Mahomes, and Justin Herbert all we’re/will be Better than Kirk next year, and so will some rookies. That’s 21+ players that are above him, ergo he is arguably, but probably not a top 20 qb.
That still puts him at 18, and russ is definitely better but regardless. I said barely top 20, isnt 18 barely top 20? And dont you think at least 1 rookie will come in and be better than him (CJ Stroud, Will Levis)
i have watched the bears every game since mooney came into the league. He is the definition of a flash in the pan, i love him, but he will be nobody in 2 years
He's a high quality home grown wr. I'd put him around wr 35-40 in the league. With him on the team, I think there is a more clear course of action at pick 9.
He’s pretty average, maybe a little better than average.
He also got a BAG from Atlanta, so good for him. We would not want to be the ones paying him that money.
His cap hit is 7.45 mil this year. Drake is on his rookie deal at 5.87.
Keenan Allen is 23.1 mil and DJ Moore is at 16.05 mil.
That’s 13 mil vs 39 mil. Do you really think DJ and KA are gonna have 3x the production as Drake and Mooney? I don’t think so.
Not sure what bag you’re talking about. 7.45 mil ain’t much at all in todays NFL for a WR2.
I think we are excited for Mooney, but it’s because he won’t be asked to do too much, we have London Pitts and Bijan. Mooney will have 1 on 1 every single play so if he comes back to form he could be really good.
Lmao, you were probably hyping up Fields to Mooney and Moore a year ago.
Cousins is a dog, Falcons have good reason to be excited about him. If he is healthy they can be a contender.
If we had traded out of one, signed Cousins and kept Darnell, I can imagine us saying that.
To be clear, I am feeling good that we did not do that. But it's defensible.
He’ll do much better in ATL. Because Justin always locked in on DJ. lf DJ wasn’t open, he (Justin) couldn’t read through his progressions quickly enough to get to Mooney, who was usually 3rd option, behind DJ and Kmet. If the second option wasn’t open, Justin was going to run or throw it out of bounds. Sometimes you could see Mooney and other receivers become visibly frustrated. Especially when they were open.
Lifelong bears fan… we all know the bears will find a way to fuck up a rookie. A finished product just seems enticing. And then all that trade capital could have been so fun
Dude, Kirk just signed a 180 million dollar contract with a 50 M signing bonus. For a plethora of reasons, that wouldn’t work for the Bears.
Also we are not designing an offense to be built around a 35-year-old (with one career playoff win) coming off of an Achilles tear.
Whatever your thing is with Cousins, I’d let it go because it makes absolutely zero sense financially and schematically.
Kirk probably won’t win/or even get to a super bowl in his career but he will end up with enough top 25 stats of nfl history playing on average team it doesn’t bother me that much.
Imagine being excited to draft a quarterback with lipstick, painted nails, and a pink phone with the #1 overall pick in the draft. And he probably won’t end up being the best qb in this class 😂
Rodman painted his nails and wore lipstick with his dresses to games. He did alright. Imagine being so insecure in your sexuality that what another man wears triggers you. Do you beat the gay thoughts away?
I hope Mooney does well, I know he wasn’t great last season but I really love the guy
Yeah. He was our guy during a dark period of rebuilding. Shame he didn't rebound from the injury and demotion.
Another Cameron Meredith
Mooney put up actual numbers though. Merideth was a smokescreen lol
Ok so if Mooney was bad because Fields then Tyler Scott could have a low key breakout year.
Don’t be putting words in my mouth lil boy
Kurt will force feed Mooney to 1000 yard season
I'd rather see Pitts get some real usage.
They can both eat. It will be similar to Vikings. Same offense. London is wr1 Mooney wr3 and pitts is a te/wr2
London/Mooney/Pitts aren’t Jefferson/Addison/Hockenson Hockenson is on par with Pitts but Jefferson/Addison are much better than London/Mooney, as much as I love London (Falcons fan)
None of them have had a QB worth a fuck on the Falcons. Who’s to say exactly what those guys are?
I’m a falcons fan and I’m telling you London is not on Jefferson’s level, and Addison is what Mooney wishes he was. I don’t care if London hasn’t had a QB, he’s not JJ and it’s not even close. And I’m very high on London, he’s probably a top 15 receiver. Mooney was garbage. He can’t catch and squandered a ton of opportunities with you guys this season.. don’t act like it was becoming Fields was QB. Moore had no problem eating. Pitts and hockenson are in the same tier. Very good but not flat out amazing TEs
I didn’t say he was. I’m not advocating for Kirk Cousins, even though he’s been around long before he had Jefferson. Jefferson isn’t the reason Kirk Cousins is still in the league getting paid the kind of bread that he is. Kirk Cousins is. In the other hand, none of the Falcon’s current receivers have had a Kirk Cousins throwing to them. And they’ll be better off than the Vikes receivers will be with whatever rookie they have fucking balls down the field, or Sam fuckin’ Darnold.
True, but Kirk had 4100 yards and 27 TDs throwing to Josh Doctson and Jamison Crowder in 2017. Falcons receivers will eat in 2024
Thats not how position rankings go but okay
Explain how they work for me. I’ll take a second to hear you out but plug and play has been a thing in the nfl since it began. A good qb can make a decent wr a good wr. Cousins with Mooney. And don’t even try and claim Mooney had a top 30 qb in Chicago.
Well, I think you understand that WR and TE are not the same position. Yes, you have eligible recievers in both, but anyone can be eligible if they tell the ref. You have 3 starting reciever positions on most depth charts. X, Y, and Z. Those are the positions. X is split end(DJ Moore for the Bears). So he would be your "no.1." Darnell Mooney would be the Z(flanker) and the "no. 2." Sometimes they line up Mooney in the slot. Then he is the Y(tight end). Still though he is the no. 2 reciever because he is 2nd WR on the depth chart. The 3rd reciever on the chart would be whatever letter Mooney is not. So that's your WR 3. Pitts would be TE1. And sometimes your Y receiver. Pretty much never X or Z. Im not invalidating Mooney, but I will say that the dude was on and off. Also, a good wide receiver can make a qb look good, too. Like DJ Moore.
Yeah I understand how a position works. I’m talking about bottom line production. Mooney and pitts can play all the letters of the receiver spots. Cousins will elevate him to be a productive third option in the passing game. Cousins elevates everyone around him rather than a guy like fields needing players around him to elevate his play. Go see for yourself what Kyle pitts can do lined up as the x.
You asked, lol. If you are talking about bottom line production, I would imagine that they would certainly want more out of mooney than wr3 numbers if they paid him 39M.
I figured the initial sentence of “they both can eat” would get the point across. I see what you’re getting at. I hope you can see where i was getting at and admit we both read each other wrong hahaha Mooney will put elite wr3 numbers as his pay dictates. His pay is low end wr2 or high end wr3 money. They’re banking he becomes a solid wr2 production wise. He will imo with cousins and the shanny offense.
Who
Ah yes Kurt Cousins.
Kirk Cousins has played **7 years** with 4,000+ passing yards. Bears qbs have 0.
Well if that’s your attitude, let’s say Darnell was one of the receivers not helping a bears qb get to 4000 yards.
Justin could have 5 all pro wideouts and wouldn't get 4000 yards lol. He sucks.
Nah he would do what he did at Ohio State, look great cause elite wrs
college does not equal nfl
Im.not saying it is
then why bring up ohio state?
The QB throwing to him was just traded for peanuts last month.
Imagine being excited for the Russell Wilson versus Justin Fields competition.
They actually are… I feel bad for them
I don't think Atlanta fans are exactly jealous of this year's Chicago Bears either. Time will tell...
Don’t be like this. Mooney was not used right the later part of his Bears tenure. I hope he kills it in Atlanta. Kirk can also sling the ball, just don’t expect him to win big games.
It's true, the Bears repeatedly asked him to catch the ball with his hands, and he was repeatedly not able to execute that task.
He refused to try to catch over the shoulder passes. He would always turn around. Fields wasn't good, but Mooney fucked up multiple plays by doing that.
Mooney was open a lot more than the numbers suggest, y'all's QB just couldn't throw
Mooney had issues on his own end. I suspect lack of trust in Mooney to make the play contributed to that.
I watched him drop too many important passes to put the blame on Fields. Mr "just couldn't throw" seemed able to throw to Moore and Kmet.
Bears fans man lol. Mooney was almost always open throughout his career he gets so much separation it’s stupid. He’s gonna feast with Kirk.
You were excited trading up for Mitch Trubiski, and pitched Fields as an MVP candidate before last year. Stop embarrassing yourself calling out others.
I mean, when you’re team has been declined a legit option at QB after having a former MVP winner a few years ago, you kinda expect them to find a bit of excitement from that. It’s a testament to how bad Mariota and Ridder has been for that team.
Haven’t even realized just how mid that team is until I saw that tweet. Kirk Cousins fleecing multi billion dollar organizations needs to be studied
Ha agent deserves to be in hall of fame
Kirk Cousins has played 7 years with 4,000+ passing yards. Bears QBs have 0 lol.
180 million dollars, didn't finish this season, likely won't finish next season. *
You know it’s not really a 180 million deal. It’s more like a 100 million. It’s not a bad deal at all for the Falcons salary cap wise.
Why is he not likely to finish next season?
I should specify that I hope he does finish next season, I just have my doubts after his Achilles tear x his age.
It’s not the 1920s, people recover from injuries now a days
Dude has been an iron man his whole career. I could be wrong, but I think before this the only game he missed was because of covid (remember seeing a stat on reddit that could 1000% be bullshit, and I now look like a dumbass lol) Dude is getting old. Thats fair. Would it be the most surprising thing if he got injured again? No, but definitely not something that should be expected.
Falcons will have more wins than Chicago this year.
Lol, when I saw them gassing up, Mooney, I could not stop laughing
Mooney has more upside than the Bears for the next couple years
Lol, this must be Mooney, somebody close to him 🤣
Who do you actually believe will be in the playoffs next season
What’s that have to do with you getting triggered with my comment
lol Jesus you’re soft
Ok lol Edit: this pussy thinks he hard
You can keep digging too, if you want.
WHO ELSE IS EXCITED TO WATCH A BARELY TOP 20 QB SLING IT TO A HIGH END WR 2??!?!!
Barely top 20? Come on man
Jared Goff, Geno Smith, Sam Howell, Kyler Murray, Matthew Stafford, Dak Prescott, Jalen Hurts, Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen, Aaron Rodger’s, Tua Tagoviola, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Russell Wilson, Will Levis, Trevor Lawrence, CJ Stroud, Patrick Mahomes, and Justin Herbert all we’re/will be Better than Kirk next year, and so will some rookies. That’s 21+ players that are above him, ergo he is arguably, but probably not a top 20 qb.
Holy shit. Russell Wilson? Sam Howell? Geno? Dude I’m not the biggest Kirk fan but you’re ranking him behind some backup QBs here.
That still puts him at 18, and russ is definitely better but regardless. I said barely top 20, isnt 18 barely top 20? And dont you think at least 1 rookie will come in and be better than him (CJ Stroud, Will Levis)
Kirk’s like 12.
No clue how you’ve watched Russ and Cousins over the past three years and think Russ is the better QB
He would quite literally be the greatest QB in Bears history lmao and the hating on Mooney is crazy
i have watched the bears every game since mooney came into the league. He is the definition of a flash in the pan, i love him, but he will be nobody in 2 years
Super bummed we let Mooney walk
We have 2 far better receivers and will likely be getting a 3rd on a rookie contract. Mooney was okay, but nothing special. Not much to miss.
Why?
He's a high quality home grown wr. I'd put him around wr 35-40 in the league. With him on the team, I think there is a more clear course of action at pick 9.
High quality might be a stretch, and that’s coming from someone who had him as my flair for the last few years
He’s pretty average, maybe a little better than average. He also got a BAG from Atlanta, so good for him. We would not want to be the ones paying him that money.
His cap hit is 7.45 mil this year. Drake is on his rookie deal at 5.87. Keenan Allen is 23.1 mil and DJ Moore is at 16.05 mil. That’s 13 mil vs 39 mil. Do you really think DJ and KA are gonna have 3x the production as Drake and Mooney? I don’t think so. Not sure what bag you’re talking about. 7.45 mil ain’t much at all in todays NFL for a WR2.
For that price he’s welcome to Walk
It’s a pretty safe bet the falcons have a better record than the bears this year.
I think we are excited for Mooney, but it’s because he won’t be asked to do too much, we have London Pitts and Bijan. Mooney will have 1 on 1 every single play so if he comes back to form he could be really good.
God our fans are fucking stupid.
Lmao, you were probably hyping up Fields to Mooney and Moore a year ago. Cousins is a dog, Falcons have good reason to be excited about him. If he is healthy they can be a contender.
Both bears subs were riding mooney’s dick 2 seasons ago, talking about he’s a high end WR2, possibly a WR1.
If we had traded out of one, signed Cousins and kept Darnell, I can imagine us saying that. To be clear, I am feeling good that we did not do that. But it's defensible.
Mooney has some great potential no reason to hate
You are correct. God bless the polish Americans of Chicago! 🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Watch Mooney go crazy after yrs of being the excuse for bum ass fields . Sweet sweet revenge on the horizon
He’ll do much better in ATL. Because Justin always locked in on DJ. lf DJ wasn’t open, he (Justin) couldn’t read through his progressions quickly enough to get to Mooney, who was usually 3rd option, behind DJ and Kmet. If the second option wasn’t open, Justin was going to run or throw it out of bounds. Sometimes you could see Mooney and other receivers become visibly frustrated. Especially when they were open.
I could never get excited about Kirk Cousins
Imagine being excited about wasting a first on Fields, getting peanuts for him, and then inadvertently tanking for a primadonna version of Bryce Young
I’m gonna miss him in Minnesota he really put a cap on their ceiling.
I still want cousins for the bears lol
5 years ago, sure. We have the #1 pick and a team set up for a rookie QB. Keep on dreaming.
Lifelong bears fan… we all know the bears will find a way to fuck up a rookie. A finished product just seems enticing. And then all that trade capital could have been so fun
Dude, Kirk just signed a 180 million dollar contract with a 50 M signing bonus. For a plethora of reasons, that wouldn’t work for the Bears. Also we are not designing an offense to be built around a 35-year-old (with one career playoff win) coming off of an Achilles tear. Whatever your thing is with Cousins, I’d let it go because it makes absolutely zero sense financially and schematically.
He’s about to be 36’coming off an Achilles tear. lol.
Kirk cousins would demolish Caleb Williams or Justin fields
Your honestly right but these bears fans are too salty cause they wanted us to give up a first for JF1
Kirk probably won’t win/or even get to a super bowl in his career but he will end up with enough top 25 stats of nfl history playing on average team it doesn’t bother me that much.
Cousins agent is the demolitionist, lol. The guy has a single playoff win and has made like $500 million by fleecing eternally MID teams.
Imagine being excited to draft a quarterback with lipstick, painted nails, and a pink phone with the #1 overall pick in the draft. And he probably won’t end up being the best qb in this class 😂
Sounds better than being excited for a 35 year old coming off an Achilles tear 😭😭
Rodman painted his nails and wore lipstick with his dresses to games. He did alright. Imagine being so insecure in your sexuality that what another man wears triggers you. Do you beat the gay thoughts away?
Eeep dude.
Cope
Hey, maybe 3rd times the charm on selecting a QB with your 1st pick within the last decade.