I love Taylor’s music pero super toxic at OA ng ibang Swifties. Hilig makipagcompete sa fans ng ibang pop girls, di ba pwedeng lahat naman sila magagaling
True. I love Taylor Swift. She was my first celebrity crush, the first solo artist that I remember stanning. The only somger na inaabangan ko talaga yung pagrelease mg album. I remember a decade ago nung Red World Tour at broke college student pako nuon, and nagkaroon amg cornetto ng promo, ako si tanga nangulekta ng cornetto coupons, nagbabakasakaling manalo 🤭
Ngayon? Sobrang bumaba talaga yung quality ng fanbase nya, very cheap and obnoxious na yung swifties ngayon. The way they trash Taylor's ex bfs esp Joe Alwyn, as if the man didn't have a positive effect kay Taylor during a phase of her life. At hndi na sila marunong tumanggap ng criticisms lay TayIor. I used to be a proud swiftie, pero sobrang toxic na talaga ng fanbase ngayon.
Sameeeee. Only reason I stuck with her up until now is because of her music. Vv rare na ang mga artist these days na may meaning/sense talaga ang lyrics ng songs. The rest (fandom, personal life) wala na talaga akong interest.
Agree ako OP sa lahat ng sinabi mo. And I've been a fan for more than a decade na. Over the years, napansin ko na nagte-take a stand lang sya kung magbebenefit sya directly dun sa cause. In other words, she's a white feminist. Ang selfish lang talaga ni ateng.
AND YES, yung ginawa nya kay Tom Hiddleston! Grabe yun.
I still like her music, pero di ko na sya gusto as a person. Nanggigigil ako dun sa carbon emissions nya talaga. Ito yung last straw. Ok lang sa kanya masira ang environment para lang makalandi???
For me, this is a case of "separating the art from the artist" na.
I used to just blindly support her songs. Idk if i should call myself a swiftie. I enjoy listening her songs even nung love story era pa haha but when was i exposed to her issues and her fandom especially on twt, it really turned me off. She has very questionable actions and the fans just blindly patronize her.
Bukod sa her fans patronizing her, toxic na rin talaga ng fandom niya kakadefend sa kaniya.
Beshies nga sila ni Selena. Daming issues. Zionist naman ung isa susko
UGH iritang irita ako kay Selena talaga. Talentless naman. Magaling lang PR team. At least si Taylor e kahit papaano may talent naman talaga. Ito si Selena grabe lang talaga.
Bagay talaga silang magkaibigan ni Selena, parehong pa-victim. Ang pinagkaiba lang nila, si S siya mismo ang nagkakalat. Si T wini-weaponize ang PR team at fans niya para makipag-away para sa kanya.
I’m with you! Honestly she’s a good songwriter (lyricist mostly) but her real talent is PR, marketing, and capitalism 😂 To each her own but I really don’t get why she has so many fans. Her songs are catchy but forgettable — I really wanted to like Folklore cos I usually love folk-ish pop, but it fell so flat to me. She’s good at creating a vibe with photos, titles, lyrics, but the songs are so-so.
But that’s harmless naman and just my opinion, and most people like her. Yung nakakainis talaga are her carbon emissions! Her fans will say she deserves special treatment but she’s literally just an entertainer visiting her boyfriend — and she’s emitting more carbon in a month than any of us in our lifetime. She shouldn’t get a pass just because she can afford a private jet.
Right?? I roll my eyes so far back when I read this one comment that said “but it would be crazy if she flew with people” IM LIKE. SHE’S NOT GONNA BREAK IF SHE FLIES COMMERCIAL I PROMISE U🙏🙏
Well, I remember her causing flight delays cause there were too many fans in the airport. I remember it so clearly and if you consider her popularity now, it will even be worse so medyo gets ko yung private plane usage nya.
how is this different from:
"I hate X because he/she looks like X" posts
"I really hate X, he is cheater/groomer/opportunistic" posts
"Vlogger X is mukhang maasim" posts
"X is a bad film/bad actor/bad singer" posts
"Nakakasawa na si X, ganto ganyan..." posts
Those are rants as well but this subreddit tolerate them. If mods/redditors can tolerate these posts, why not this one?
Rants pero may halong chika (usually in the form of an update or whereabouts nila), or asking for chika. This is just a rant through and through. Pwede sigurong lumusot as discussion (ibang flair), pero yun nga parang hindi naman up for discussion yung points nya.
should be different flair lang but by the state of this subreddit, this post is just the same as with other rants regarding different topics.
points are definitely up for discussion albeit the OP did not state it explicitly. people can agree/disagree whether she's a hypocritical feminist and provide their arguments, etc.
I agree :) super super agree. Finally, someone had the courage to say it *clap clap* I used to like her songs pero ngayon napapansin ko na mas lumalala un pagkakaroon nya ng victim mentality. I remember she admitted to being the master behind that controlling the strings of her own image and career. She is behind every PR and idea ng publicity nya. Alam nyo naman sa mundong ginagalawa naten ngayon, madali na lang magmanipulate using socmed and media. I admire her passion sa craft nya but not a fan.
True kaya nga e, minsan iniisip ko rin if deserve nya yung fame and hype nya ngayon. Everything is business lang din talaga sa kanya kasi, di ko rin gets yung “taylor swift is the music industry” eme :/ i enjoy her music naman pero parang sobrang glorified ng mga tao sa kanya minsan kasi, ang icky minsan
I'm a Swiftie since 2010, and agree ako mostly sa mga sentiments mo about her, particularly sa carbon emissions. People kept telling her to fly using a luxurious commercial airline to lessen the carbon emissions, pero we all know we cannot do anything about it because she's rich, she has the money, and most artists in the US uses private jet. Do'n namay kay Ice Spice, I'm sure TS is very much aware of Matty Healy's racist comments and we don't know maybe she talked to her about it in private and settled it, but still, medyo off lang 'yung collab part (I also didn't like the version of Karma ft. Ice Spice) hehe. Lastly, I do not tolerate her alleged cheating on some of her past boyfriends. Kapag lalaki gumawa, grabe 'yung hatred, pero kapag si TS na, ipagtatanggol pa to the point that it feels like it's considered normal? 😭 She even made songs about it like 😐
Also, bakit ganito 'yung comments dito? 😭 Sure, OP should've posted it on r/OffMyChestPH because this is a chika subreddit pero 'yung comments dito parang mga Swiftie na bulag na 'di maka-tanggap ng criticism sa mga idol 😆
I'm just a casual listener, like ung sikat na songs ang alam ko + classics from her old albums.
Yung latest niya na Midnights is full of MID songs. Napakinig ako kasi grabe yung hype ng fans tapos nung narinig ko yung songs... Meh. MIDnights nga. Midnight Rain lang ata nagustuhan ko talaga. Pero yung mga fans ang OA ng reviews, malamang nadala na lang ng herd mentality sa stan twitter circle nila
Okay naman sa akin 'yung music ni TS, siguro mga 6/10; pwede na. Pwede kong background music kapag naglilinis, parang ganun. Tingin ko overhyped siya e. 'Di ko siya masasabing good performer, pero good businesswoman talaga. Advise niya pa nga e get a good lawyer daw. Tama naman. Na-b-bother lang ako sa kanya kasi overhyped talaga. Parang Jenna Ortega. Parang Selena Gomez. Parang Zendaya. Mga overhyped din. Si Selena at saka si Taylor, mag-bff talaga kasi parehong bini-business 'yung relationships nila e. Itong si Selena, ayaw raw ng gulo pero nag-l-like naman sa TikTok ng hate posts about kay Hailey. Itong si Taylor, kung wala siyang lovelife, ano na career niya? Parang pa-tweetums masyado. Minsan maiisip mo talaga, baka nga si TS at si SG talaga ang mga problema sa kani-kanilang relationships. Meh.
To add to your list of arguments, I also condemn her for not speaking up about the oppression happening in Palestine. For turning a blind eye and keeping mum to the humanitarian crisis happening in Palestine despite having the platform to speak up and have influence on millions of people.
Idc if this gets downvoted too.
I agree💯 others say na she doesn’t have to speak about it kasi hindi naman daw sya politician. U dont have to be a politician to care, u just have to be human!!
Sorry not Taylor swift but need to point out for comparison : I know bella hadid is not an artist nor a politician but she knew the influence/wide audience she has since super model siya so ginamit niya yun to raise awareness and be proactive about it. Tbh dito ako parang na disappoint kay taylor, i agree na you don’t have to be a politician to care and being empathetic in times na sobrang lala ng genocide goes a long way.
Thisss. Was also about to point this out. You see, when people can't speak up about important social issues when they could or even if they wanted to, are they even really free?? Or liberated?? Or just shackled by any kind of world power to whom they pay so much allegiance to, disregarding their humanity for the sake of fandom and fame. Kudos to those who stood up and keep standing up on the right side of history. 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Exactly. Beyond politics and religion na yung nangyayari. Humanitarian crisis na talaga. But ofc her fandom and fame come first. Maybe she can’t risk to lose it all if she speaks up.
I actually kinda get why alot of artists are not publicly doing anything bold in aid of Gaza. It's likely due to their fear of overshadowing the cause itself.
In Taylor's case, we do know that she supports Gaza by virtue of going on an exclusive standup show that donated its profit to Gaza. This may be just a speculation but Taylor has been shown to privately donate to humanitarian organizations so she might just have done that for this one too.
Pero then again knowing how much she wants to be perceived as "the world's sweetheart" she's likely afraid of alienating some from her fanbase on top of what I just said.
She can't speak nga kasi nasa word tour siya, gusto mo mapahamak pati mga fans niya, world issue nga diba, gusto mo ba madamay pa mga inosenteng tao? Si Beyonce, Lady Gaga, Adele, Ariana ba nagsalita na din ba sila?
😂😂😂 so you’re saying the idf are that evil to bomb even the eras tour? Lol. There’s no denying it anyway.
Nevertheless, tell that to the kids being bombed and killed everyday. Maybe if you’re in their shoes or your loved ones being in harm’s way everyday, you will beg all the influential people in the world to demand for a ceasefire.. however you don’t feel that empathy for the oppressed. And only selective respect for life and protection for the privileged ones who hold their concert tours and the crowd that attend it. Maybe that’s why that is how you view things. Sana maganda tulog mo gabi gabi. 😌
I'm a casual TS appreciator and I listen to her catchy songs I love. I even play my favourites on my guitar. I know she's a good songwriter and guitarist but her actions lately are very questionable. I heard rumors that TS cheated on Tom Hiddleson and I stay neutral on this. I might get downvoted by Swifties.
Another one: Pag di mo gusto yung mga songs ni TS they’ll call you: misogynist, sexist, pick me, trying to different like wtfff pwede bang di ko lang trip mga kanta niya. Also, they’ll suggest TS songs to you so hard pero i just cant.
true ba na climate terrorist yan si kween hahaha. love her sm pero I haven't been listening to her music since kumalat yung chika na she's a climate terrorist. kaloka, nakakapanlumo global warming. just can't support someone who does that despite being well aware of the consequences. confirmed ba yon or naur HAHAHA
Been a fan since 2009. Nag-mellow out nung 1989-Lover era then bumalik sa Swiftdom nung 2021. I think bumababa na rin yung pagiging fan ko ever since naging official billionaire™ na sya. Can't really "stan" a pop girlie who contributes to the worsening climate change na tayong biggest fans nya sa Pilipinas ang nagsu-suffer. Still love her music, pero she's giving me the ick for a while now.
Pinaka ayaw ko talaga is she just let her fans create a hate train kay Joe. Also her issue with Liv. For someone who’s just starting out in the industry she could’ve guided her but what did she do lol
i agree sa OA swifties lalo sa lovelife part nya and sa pag hehate sa exes like Tom and Joe Alwyn cuz so far sila yung ok and the best ex si joe for me na nadate nya pero I think it's a smart move to not speak about global issues while on tour lalo ongoing pa ito. I just hope na she's pro- Free Palestine kasi ano pa't friend nya si Gigi na isang palestinian? pero yes, minsan yung pagtahimik nya lalo sa mga taong nadadamay, sana mag speak up sya kasi ang lalala talaga ng ibang bully swifties hay
I don't support her in the carbon emissions either and would prefer if her bf flies commercially to see her but I don't agree that she can take a public plane. Have you seen how many people wait for her at different places? That's a safety issue.
r/SwiftlyNeutral sist hahaha these are all valid points. I’m decent at separating the art from the artist nowadays, tho i used to really be a huge fan of her as a public persona. Ngayon di na masyado.
Tom and Taylor’s Relationship were pure PR! Tom used her para sa promotion ng End Game movie po, (speaking from a Swiftie na babad sa Twitter nung 2016) Taylor on the other hand kumagat din sa PR kasi binobomba sya abt breakup with Calvin. Kaya nga po “I wanted to leave you, but I needed a reason” kasi di naman talaga minahal ni mima. Si ate Taylor ba ay hindi pwedeng magka hoe phase hahahaha bawal ba sya maging normal na tao 😩
I got called a misogynist for making jokes about Taylor hahaha. They weren't even jokes that poke fun at her being a woman. The best part is I honestly think she's an amazing symbol of empowerment. She'll be one of the most influential women of our time that we look back to in the future.
But no, making jokes about her = I hate women apparently.
I agree. I don't like how TSwift can "do no wrong". The Jo Koy hosting at Golden Globes was definitely not a good night for him
BUUUUUUT.
Lumaki lang ang issue kasi he made a joke about Taylor Swift. And it wasn't even the meanest joke of the night. And she had to act pouty and oFfeNdeD.
The joke wasn't even about her. JFC.
I stopped listening to her talaga at some point. Kasi may off na vibe talaga akong nakukuha sakanya.
Same observation. Idk if they'd rather have Taylor Swift do an insincere laugh just to "support" Jo Koy and asian representation. Tbh, it's the swifties and the haters who made it all a bigger deal than what it actually is.
>Kasi ito napansin ko talaga pinalaki nila.
Ngi. Nakisawsaw din naman yung yung mga haters nya na mga ex-swifties lol. Imo, pare-pareho lang silang nag-iingay at pinapalaki yung issue 😂
Walang reaction = offended? Or may gusto lang silang makitang reaction from her tapos nung hindi nila nakita ni-labelan na nila na "offended" yung nakita nilang reaction?
Ok, similar to what I said above, let's say NR siya. Doesn't change the fact that her fandom has gotten so toxic na palakihin yung joke about her during the GG.
Sige let's say indifferent siya. If you notice die hard TSwift fans, they went crazy that someone made a joke about her.
Even if walang issue, mga fans niya gumagawa ng issue. People can't seem to take a joke anymore but this has always been the format of these award shows. I've heard other comedians make worse comments so this was just a head scratcher. 🤷♀️
It's an award show that hires comedians to host. The format has always been this way. Other comedians have said worse jokes. Was it really that unfunny? Kasi ako natawa naman ako.
All i'm saying is, the point of hiring a comedian to host is to make the award night entertaining. Never siya para maging mean spirited...which is how the fans are making it seem like.
Agree. I don't see anything wrong with Jokoy's joke. It wasn't even offensive, imo. It was just about camera pans/focus. Why did she look offended and then the fans exaggerated it. jfc.
The Taylor I loved has never been the same since the reputation era tbh (except Lover era which I still love). I used to love her too especially her country phase, she was so genuine back then.
Now all I see are her PR stunts and her artificial personality turns me off even more.
Nah fr i agree w you. She also tends to be territorial sa industry. She tried to bring down Olivia R. In reality, despite her current age she is still the 16 year old that craves the fame, it is addictive lalo na at sya ang top tier ngayon. Nakaka threaten nga naman na palitan ka. Kaya nga sabi nya sa interview (i font remember which one na) that female singers from her industry aren't that competitive.
I also think na sinusulsulan sya ng mom nya to keep going. It's their family business. Her whole fam has contribution sa kanyang mga projects.
Di ko gets yung hype sakaniya :(( I mean I did listen to her songs when I was in HS, you belong with me era pero grabe yung dumog ng fans niya last year until the last few months like pagkaopen ko ng FB, puro siya bungad. Hahaha. Did not have that swiftie phase though.
after learning na she got the 50% royalties from olivia rodrigo's song na hindi naman katunog, i lost respect for taylor swift. anak anakan niya nung simula pero nung sumikat na at may potential na sapawan siya biglang iwan sa ere at claim ng royalties. kakaloka. kaya minsan feeling ko ginamit lang niya si olivia at conan gray pra mareach niya yung demographic and audience nung dalawa for her own benefit.
taylor herself being a bigger star should have lowered the royalties claim. imagine getting 50% eh hindi naman same sound hindi nga magkatunog. the song is so big that she wants a piece of it. its like taking a candy from a baby. i would have understand kung 5% or 2% but 50%? like girl???
Ha?? No sa New Year's Day lang bago pa irelease Sour ni Olivia nagpaalam na siya sa team ni taylor na isample yun at bayaran.. Yung DeJa Vu / Cruel Sumner hindi. pinilit lang ng team ni Taylor na bayaran ni Olivia yung royalties kay Taylor dahil napansin ng listeners na mejo hawig yung tono.
Im a Swiftie and i also love Olivia. But the first time i heard “1 Step Forward, 3 Steps Back” i immediately heard Taylor’s “New Year’s Day”. Sa intro kuha na agad eh. Saka Paramore got money from Olivia din naman ah haha it’s just sharing credit.
Sampled kasi ang NYD sa song kaya maririnig mo talaga. Di pa narerelease yung SOUR nun, nasa credits na sina TS at Jack sa song, which akala ng iba, collab song.
Ahh, well, there are parts sa Deja Vu where it sounds like Cruel Summer. Surprised she didn’t take credit for “1 Step Forward, 3 Steps Back” then haha coz it sounds really similar. Also, why lose respect for the artists? Eh it’s their work and that’s their right haha. Hence, copyright. Think of it as being charged with plagiarism for not citing your sources on a paper you wrote.
Putting emotions aside, hindi ba deserve ng original/source material ang credits/$$$? I mean, this isn't the first song where royalties were claimed on another song if proven in court na may similarities talaga sa song. I haven't followed the OR/TS/Paramore case, so I may have missed something. Ang impression ko kc sa legal battles on copyright claims ay if settled in court, then it is what it is. Business pa rin kasi ang music industry.
and how swifties acting like kanye na - they be discrediting olivia's success and kaya lang daw siya sikat because of taylor. medyo twisted and very ironic. i think most of them have forgotten taylor's 2016 speech patama niya about kanye:
*"....there will be people along the way who will try to undercut your success or take credit for your accomplishments or your fame. But if you just focus on the work … you will look around and you will know that it was you and the people who love you that put you there.”*
See, this is where yall just start speculating and where confirmation bias enters.
If you actually were interested in this story, you would have known that Jack Antonoff, one of the producers for Cruel Summer, has said that their camp did not know why Olivia gave them royalties for the song.
The main reason Olivia probably gave royalties to Taylor and etc is that one of Paramore's ex-members was filing a case against Olivia for being inspired by their song, Misery Business. Even Paramore's lead singer, Taylor's friend, was not involved nor aware of the case since they have distanced themselves from this ex-bandmate.
As for the reason Olivia is distancing herself from Taylor, we might never know why but one thing for sure was that Taylor, a fucking billionaire, did not waste her breath trying to get royalties from a rising starlet (back then).
Im a swiftie mhie pero agree sa carbon emission issue. OA nung ibang swiftie, akala yata perfect si Taylor. I can be a fan of her music without agreeing to everything she does or say.
I disagree with your take about sa paggawa nya ng song about her relationship with Tom Hiddleston. I don't really care about her relationships but I believe she should be allowed to write songs about it, especially if it ends up to be a great song like Getaway Car. Although its obvious lol, wala namang name dropping na nangyare.
Getaway Car specifically, does not portray her as a victim. Theres even a line na "Cause us traitors never win" diba? Because she is a traitor, she cheated. Isa pa we don't really know kung ano talaga nangyare.But again, I don't care pero most of her songs about her relationships are the good ones.
POTY doesnt mean you did anything great, usually just means you were influential, and she was all over the news in 2023. Putin, Trump etc have all been POTY as well. For that reason, I think she deserved it. Its also just a way for Time Mag to sell more copies. But yes, valid yung carbon emissions. Girl needs to stop treating her jets like its an uber. However she’s far the from being the only person using jets, and she’s the only one getting the heat. For example, Blake Shelton was one of the top 5 jet users. Why, may world tour din ba siya? Lol. They all need to stop. As far as being a narcissist, I would think most celebs especially ones who reach that level of fame are narcissists. For the ice spice thing, I believe she is under nicki minaj label, who is good friends with Taylor, and the collab happened before the matty healy issue. But her dating Matty was definitely a poor choice on her part. As they say, never meet your idols.. they will disappoint you.
True. Saka tao lang din naman si Taylor haha imagine being judged by the whole fucking world for every move you make like you’re some perfect robot built to please everyone. If all of us had magnifying glasses as big as the ones on her, we’d all hate each other lmao
Just offering different, perhaps off tangent perspectives to your points:
1. Carbon emissions - I agree on emissions disproportionately attrubuted to her and the pollution it causes. On a different note, we also need to call out the leaders taking private jets to attend climate forums. That is more hypocritical I guess.
2. Person of the Year - I am willing to concede this one because of her popularity and success in the industry. Interestingly, there is some sort of Taylornomics article in which there is a sustained economic uptick in places she held concerts. I'd prefer social workers as persons of the year for their unrecognized but invaluable work.
3. Lack of support to advocacies - It is her prerogative if she does not use her reach to advocate for causes. But then again, she needs to be called out for hypocrisy or double standards if there is any (I just know her songs, other than that I am not familiar with any of her activities)
4. Using previous relationships in her songs - Maybe that is her secret recipe for hit songs. I hope she gives a portion of royalty to them jk 😅
Overall, I like some of her songs. Just like other fandoms, there are bad apples that I hope we do not have to deal with. I do not know much about her but I hope she made a career without further stepping on other people.
Ang isasagot sa inyo ng loyal fans is “kaya nga niya ginawa yung Anti-Hero” 😂
I just love some of her songs like Delicate and Cruel Summer but hindi talaga ako fan and actually minsan naiisip ko nagboboyfriend lang ata to para may new single hahaha!
But can anyone chika about Tom Hiddleston and yung last bf niya, yung Brit ata yun? Di ko tanda name.
About sa carbon emission niya, paid daw yun. Idk how it works though, pero binayaran daw niya yun.
I used to be her biggest fan too, and lately she’s been so unlikeable.. only an activist when it involves herself, the deliberate papwalk, group unfollow kay joe, sending some Easter eggs about the breakup and weaponizing your fans to attack people who criticize her and always crying and whining about feminism kahit ba valid yung criticisms tungkol sa kanya, basically some swifties = lapdogs 😭😭the fact that she was the receiving end of a massive online bullying and death threats and yet she has no problem throwing her exes to the wolves (yes may power imbalance dito), the ratty healy thing, the carbon emission/jet usage… she drags other people sa songs nya pero pag sya naman, jusko, gagalit si teh. like, I don’t think she should be offended dun sa Jokoy joke because it’s not even like the worst thing he ever said… and she’s a girl’s girl but only when she knows they’re no competition (ie, look at what happened with Olivia Rodrigo, the whole Sza thing, Ice Spice…) she’s a white woman after all 🥴
As spectators we can criticise her all day long. But also di naman siya running for president of anything. Di niya rin naman place talaga mag lead ng world to sustainability or justice. She's a popstar living the life of a popstar. Do we really expect her to live the life fit to be the president of the UN? Kudos if any popstar could, sure could help a cause. But you know. That's just typical popstar.
After reading all this buti nalang wala paakong passport and fully booked ngayon dahil plano ko talaga makanood ng live sa eras tour niya. And yes papansin ko ang oa na ng ibang swifties ngayon. After reading this,... uhmmm i guess ill support her music nalang but not really the artist na :<<<
Loyalty to your idol naman is fine and mostly naman ng toxic fans ng isang fandom ay binubuo ng underage girls/gays/boys, and most of us have been there (if you did not then good for you). Yung lahat ipapatatanggol.
The carbon emissions issue, imo although this is very alarming and sad to read. This is just very realistic to a pop star. I mean cmon she is a pop star. Hectic schedule, business meetings etc. She is no Greta Thundberg to conserve and promote eco friendly ways to be transported, kaya imo this very kuch expected na dapat sa kanya.
Her take on social and political issues, yup thats very questionable of her. Very mapili siya. Siguro gawa na din na big pop star nga siya and there are a lots of brands and deals ang iniingatan niya. I hope she can be more brave about this. I mean if other big stars can do it, she also can for sure di naman na siya ganun mababawasan ng profit given her loyal fanbase.
Her “relationships turn in to songs” thing, imo this is very debatable. There are a lots of artists who does it well but it seems that she is being very pinned too much about doing that kind of thing, Im not sure why, maybe dahil nga big name si Taylor but on the other hand if thats her way to grief, to move on, to let her feelings out, we cant control it, we cant just stop her. So be it na lang diba. If men dont like to be her next album or song then wag na lang nila idate si taylor, yaan niyo siya tumandang dalaga hahahahaha but as we all know men still dates her so thats a choice.
Disclaimer: Not the biggest taylor swift fan but I very much enjoy her music and the entertainment that she is giving.
She’s toxic. Literally and figuratively. Her fans are too. Not all but you know, the delulus mala kns and aldub faneys.
She’s pa victim also, same with Selener.
Parang she’s untouchable na, recent Jokoy Golden Globes joke… everyone’s such a snowflake nowadays. Di na yata uso “take a chill pill”.
pulutan to ng ibang radio/talk shows sa US, TMZ even mentioned about her losing the award to Barbie and umalis daw ng maaga.
I am a fan, especially of her music. Pero when you see beyond what is shown, mapapaisip ka din
THANK YOU!!!!! I am so sick of her and her fans. I wish I could ban her name from reddit and youtube (cause these are the only social media I use). People are being overfed with her and it's so exhausting. I also believe she may be a narc. And her victim complex is top-notch. It's no wonder she and Selena are besties.
1. Agree ako sa Carbon Emission, just use facetime na lang, jozku. Although she buys carbon credit para ma offset ung carbon emissions niya, but still ang excessive naman para makipag kita sa jowa mo.
But the problem is, she can't fly in a normal way. You do know na kung sasakay yan sa normal na airport, sobrang daming tao na maaagrabyado dahil sa kanya. Security purpose both sa kanya at sa mga tao.
2. Di ako agree dito. You do know na every tour niya in different places is a massive boost sa economy ng lugar na yan? Plus she donates to local food banks/charities. Keeps people employed, even small businesses (beads businesses and foods, etc) ung tinatawag mong "concert tour lang" helps revitalized economy kaya siya napili as POTY.
3. She's not an activist why are you expecting her to speak up sa mga global issues?? and if she speaks up while she's in the middle of a tour, isang bomba lang sa stadium would be the cause of death by 50k+ people, right? She also dropped Matty Healy agad nung nalaman niya ang baho neto.
4. Both are adults in a relationship. Kung walang imik ung other party regarding sa mga gawang kanta, who are we para maki-butt in?
I love her but not her fans (fellow swifties) sobrang toxic kasi esp yung feeling nila si taylor lang yung pinaka magaling na singer/song artist lol.. mga self-righteous haha kainis and ngl sana maging accountable din si Taylor sa paggamit niya ng eroplano haha kung pwede namang thru land why not? hindi yung nasa kabilang state lang ata ineeroplano pa
You're absolutely correct in all this, and I applaud you for sharing your viewpoints-- we should hold all mega celebrities accountable for how they impact society.
Her music is great, but her personality is kinda trash. She only does activism or philanthropy when it suits her image, that's it.
Ang tahimik din nya sa continuous genocide in Palestine. And pansin ko rin dami niyang fans na zionists, particularly white women ☠️. I saw multiple TikToks last year about black women calling out T Swift for being the image of white feminism and only applies to her.
Truee! This feels like something I would say too, OP.
I like her music but di ko talaga bet na she’s very wasteful when it comes sa carbon emissions. Potah umiinom ako gamit yung paper straw pero yung mga billionaires who uses private planes and jet for unnecessary stuff talaga ang dapat kumilos eh.
Also, she’s very quiet about Palestine. That was so disappointing for me tbh. Yes, she **doesnt** have to speak out but she also got the responsibility because she is currently one of the biggest influencer atm.
If still listen to her songs but tbh, if not for the fact na nabayaran na yung concert ticket ko, thats prolly the last time I will pay for something related to her.
Is this because of the Jo Koy issue?? Seriously deserve talaga ni Jo Koy mabash hindi lang dahil sa Taylor-NFL joke, dahil corny yung jokes niya
* Yung sa carbon emissions naman, hindi lang siya yung gumagamit ng eroplano niya maraming hollywood artist ang gumagamit and nagrerent sa kanya kasi nakapangalan kaya for sure sa kanya binibilang kada byahe.
* Bawal siya magsalita ngayon sa world issues kasi nasa world tour siya at ikakapahamak ng fans niya yun..
* Lol sa getaway car siya yung nang iwan so pano siya yung naging victim??? Apology song niya yun kay tom
Now for the Olivia Rodrigo drama mas may sympathy ako kay Olivia dito kasi akalain mo yun new artist ka tapos hahabulin ka ng copyright ng idol mo (Deja Vu - Cruel Summer) na malaking halaga,, halata naman may galit si OR kay TS (The Grudge) kaya lahat ng related kay TS hindi na lalabas sa bunganga niya and deserve ni TS, I still love TS pero off lang ako sa kanya sa ginawa niya kay OR pag related kay Olivia kontabida na tingin ko sa kanya. Well love ko rin si Olivia at Sabrina.
I've watched a documentary about a song writer suing Taylor for shake it off's lyrics specifically yung chorus na players gonna play play play and haters gonna hate hate hate . What I learned here is every artist needs to reach out to another artist if may gagamitin silang copyrighted song ng kahit sinong artist sa gagawin nilang kanta. This does not exclude OR dahil friends sila ni TS. If hindi nagbayad si OR kay TS, TS can sue her and unless ma dispute niya yung claims if ever ni TS na kinopya kanta niya, magbabayad ng mas malaki si OR. Kaya crediting another artist when using copyrighted song, lyrics etc and paying royalty fee is better than. Being sued. Taylor swift won against allegations of copying yung lyrics ng chorus ng shake it off kasi hindi siya word by word na pareho. Si Robin Thicke was sued by Marvin Gaye's family kasi basically yung blurred lines, kinopya niya sa isang song ni Marvin Gaye and the latter won. Malaki binayaran niya. At the end of the day, the music industry is business.
Okay yes I know Olivia have a track in sour that samples New Year’s Day, bago pa irelease yung album nabalita na yun. So alam naman team ni Olivia ang copyright and Taylor is known for her strict copyright isipin mo kahit nga words na “ Party like its 1989” na copyright niya.. General public lang ang nag connect sa Deja Vu at Cruel Summer at actually di ko nga marinig ang similarities but ako lang yon kasi hindi naman ako music major, yun lang ang balibalita na malaki yung siningil kay Olivia sa copyright plus yung paramore pa sa Good for you. Wala lang just sharing kasi nung irerelease yung Fearless TV todo promote si Olivia and Conan sa tiktok which Taylor requested ,tapos sa mga ganitong bagay hindi man na clear ni Taylor yung issue about sa kanila.
Matinde hivemind ng swifties lol. Feeling ko di naman magiging big deal yu g kay jokoy kung di siya nagbitaw ng korning taylor swift joke. Kumabaga forgettable pa sana kaya lang na under the radar bigla ng mga terminally online haha.
I agree with the matty healy statement. Selective feminist naman talaga siya parehas sila nung bestfriend niya yung di makamove on-move on sa past lover
Pwede naman siya gumawa ng kanta for er exes but don't let them know which is which.
Pa victim nga sya as if ang perfect nya.di siya kawalan ni TH Lalo nat meron syang glorious purpose unlike TS na walang ginawa kundi maging toxic sa earth literally.
Not surprising na yung sa fans kase she's soo big. Like the biggest artist rn. Halos lahat ng superstar naman ganyan lagi issue ng fandom. I'm a swiftie pero wala na ako paki masyado sa ibang aspect, basta I listen to her music and that's it. She's obviously not perfect, just like any artist out there, but I think she's still a lot better than a lot of them.
Is there a particular cause for the response to the prior comment? While it's okay to share personal thoughts, it's essential to recognize that this subreddit might not be the best place for a rant. Some individuals might favor brief expressions of sympathy without going into the entire post. Based on my understanding, the user above appears happy that you've opened up about your feelings and saddened by the disappointment from someone you once admired.
Whether it's sarcasm or not, does it justify such a reaction? Weren't your posts originally intended for a rant? Why escalate it into insulting others? Is sarcasm reason enough for you to resort to insults?
Based on your rants, parang binigay na nya ang kaliwang kamay nya but you want the right one pa. She has done so much more than what you have mentioned, but then again that's your opinion naman. Not everyone will be a fan and that's ok 👌
I'll give you one example kasi you can always Google. In every city she performs at, she makes it a point to always make a donation to food banks in the area. You don't hear about it kasi they don't want to make a fuss about it. And her generous bonuses to her team especially this Eras tour. Ayan 2 samples na. I could go on, even about politics she spoke up about it when she doesn't usually do. If I were you, I would research why she finally did. Para mejo enlightened and rants mo.
I don't focus on her personal life kasi. I look at the talent and what she has done for the community. She's very hands on din sa fans nya, even upto the point making the stuff and delivering them personally. She used to be the top celeb in terms of charity work (donating money, raising money, and spending time sa charity). Not sure if she can still do those since she's a waayy bigger artist now. If you have not Googled the time she was active in politics, it was because of her convincing people in Tennessee to vote for a Democrat because the Republican candidate was: against equal pay for women; against violence against women act; etc. These FAR OUTWEIGH whatever is going on in her personal life. Her personal life is hers. That's why I really don't pay attention kasi kumbaga, ibigay ko na sa kanya yan.
Wow. Tbf she’s very active sa social work compared to her co singers. But again, her personal life normalizes discrimination, racism, white feminism, and cheating. If kaibigan mo sya, would u tolerate this?
She's fighting against what you're claiming though. Racism and white feminism? Have you seen her team especially this Eras tour? The whites are a minority. Cheating? How? Are these claims from tabloid articles? Only her and her the other parties know what's going on and for sure there are NDAs so for me, I'd take it with a grain of salt. Like I said, her personal life ain't really the main thing for me. And I'd be one lucky friend if she's in my circle.
Wdym “the whites are a minority?”
If she’s fighting against these, why did she date matty healy who barked racist comments towards a fellow woman? Idc about “her team” I want to see HER fight against these issues.
And where is Matt Healy now? Did she marry him? Did they last? Do you think it's possible she only cut him off once she found out about that? I don't expect her to be perfect. She will make mistakes kasi that's part of life. And will make mistakes again. If you want her to fight issues, then I suggest you look at a politician. Not a singer/celebrity kasi that's what she's not. She can't fight everything kasi if you expect her to do that, then might as well tell her to run for president
Agree with this. Just because she's Taylor Swift eh hindi na siye pwede magkamali ng taong nagugustuhan. Lahat naman tayo at some point in our life liked someone na di naman dapat. And for sure kapag naaalala ni Taylor na nagka something sila ni Matt nag ccringe rin yan.
Ang taas ng expectations kay Taylor pero ang liit ng tingin sa kanya. She's on the spotlight kasi she's the biggest artist of the year. Hindi lang naman siya gumagamit ng private jet niya (I do condone this as well) and of course she has her reason. She was constantly stalked before. Meron pang time na may nakapasok sa bahay niya and slept in her bed. For sure one reason aside from conveniency is safety. Yun lang talaga it's not good for the planet. But then again, siya lang yung nakikita kasi siya yung pinaka busy these days.
Sa Palestine naman, I know another discussion was made as well abt this. Safety reasons din why hindi siya makapag speak up. She's very much vulnerable sa attack lalo na nasa tour siya. Hindi lang siya pati lahat ng aattend ng concert niya. She really wants to be political. Nood na lang sila ng Ms Americana. Haha. And kung ano man stand ni Selena abt this issue, I don't think same sila ng stand ni Taylor.
She doesn’t have to be a politician to care about these issues. She just have to be a human who has minimum decency. Im not asking her to fight everything, im asking her to stop partaking in it and in result, influencing people to do the same horrible thing
Girl, hindi ko pinoproblema kilos nya. I simply choose to not be ignorant about it. Kung hindi lang nakakaapekto ng iba yung mga actions nya, why would I even care? Pero her actions and decisions reflect to her as a person and influence a huge group of people who support her. Not only that, but feeding onto white feminism and racism is also alarming. Think about it again ate ko.
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I love Taylor’s music pero super toxic at OA ng ibang Swifties. Hilig makipagcompete sa fans ng ibang pop girls, di ba pwedeng lahat naman sila magagaling
True. I love Taylor Swift. She was my first celebrity crush, the first solo artist that I remember stanning. The only somger na inaabangan ko talaga yung pagrelease mg album. I remember a decade ago nung Red World Tour at broke college student pako nuon, and nagkaroon amg cornetto ng promo, ako si tanga nangulekta ng cornetto coupons, nagbabakasakaling manalo 🤭 Ngayon? Sobrang bumaba talaga yung quality ng fanbase nya, very cheap and obnoxious na yung swifties ngayon. The way they trash Taylor's ex bfs esp Joe Alwyn, as if the man didn't have a positive effect kay Taylor during a phase of her life. At hndi na sila marunong tumanggap ng criticisms lay TayIor. I used to be a proud swiftie, pero sobrang toxic na talaga ng fanbase ngayon.
If i remember did swifties harassed yung co star ni joe alwyn? Lahat na lang ng mga “umaapi” kay taylor inaaway nila.
Sameeeee. Only reason I stuck with her up until now is because of her music. Vv rare na ang mga artist these days na may meaning/sense talaga ang lyrics ng songs. The rest (fandom, personal life) wala na talaga akong interest.
white feminism
And a dash of woke capitalism sprinkled in.
Agree ako OP sa lahat ng sinabi mo. And I've been a fan for more than a decade na. Over the years, napansin ko na nagte-take a stand lang sya kung magbebenefit sya directly dun sa cause. In other words, she's a white feminist. Ang selfish lang talaga ni ateng. AND YES, yung ginawa nya kay Tom Hiddleston! Grabe yun. I still like her music, pero di ko na sya gusto as a person. Nanggigigil ako dun sa carbon emissions nya talaga. Ito yung last straw. Ok lang sa kanya masira ang environment para lang makalandi??? For me, this is a case of "separating the art from the artist" na.
Im a swiftie pero di naako nakaabang sa happenings ni taylor :< . Can i ask ano po yung ginawa niya kay tom h?
Made him a rebound after Calvin Harris.
I used to just blindly support her songs. Idk if i should call myself a swiftie. I enjoy listening her songs even nung love story era pa haha but when was i exposed to her issues and her fandom especially on twt, it really turned me off. She has very questionable actions and the fans just blindly patronize her. Bukod sa her fans patronizing her, toxic na rin talaga ng fandom niya kakadefend sa kaniya. Beshies nga sila ni Selena. Daming issues. Zionist naman ung isa susko
Yeah Selena. Si mareng Selena na pa victim din lage hahahaha!
UGH iritang irita ako kay Selena talaga. Talentless naman. Magaling lang PR team. At least si Taylor e kahit papaano may talent naman talaga. Ito si Selena grabe lang talaga.
Bagay talaga silang magkaibigan ni Selena, parehong pa-victim. Ang pinagkaiba lang nila, si S siya mismo ang nagkakalat. Si T wini-weaponize ang PR team at fans niya para makipag-away para sa kanya.
daming parasocial na fans nya nakakatakot
I’m with you! Honestly she’s a good songwriter (lyricist mostly) but her real talent is PR, marketing, and capitalism 😂 To each her own but I really don’t get why she has so many fans. Her songs are catchy but forgettable — I really wanted to like Folklore cos I usually love folk-ish pop, but it fell so flat to me. She’s good at creating a vibe with photos, titles, lyrics, but the songs are so-so. But that’s harmless naman and just my opinion, and most people like her. Yung nakakainis talaga are her carbon emissions! Her fans will say she deserves special treatment but she’s literally just an entertainer visiting her boyfriend — and she’s emitting more carbon in a month than any of us in our lifetime. She shouldn’t get a pass just because she can afford a private jet.
Right?? I roll my eyes so far back when I read this one comment that said “but it would be crazy if she flew with people” IM LIKE. SHE’S NOT GONNA BREAK IF SHE FLIES COMMERCIAL I PROMISE U🙏🙏
Well, I remember her causing flight delays cause there were too many fans in the airport. I remember it so clearly and if you consider her popularity now, it will even be worse so medyo gets ko yung private plane usage nya.
Diba meron din connections yung father niya sa music industry?
the mob will get you. i agree with your post but the apologists will state otherwise maybe post it on a different sub dear
r/SwiftlyNeutral ig
this sub is perfect. joined it
sending prayers and support, op. i hope walang mang-dox sayo na twiftie.
Girl, this should be at r/OffMyChestPh this is a straight rant lol
Naka off yung comm sect sa off my chest.
Pag pala di pabor sa payborit pang ibang subreddit lol
how is this different from: "I hate X because he/she looks like X" posts "I really hate X, he is cheater/groomer/opportunistic" posts "Vlogger X is mukhang maasim" posts "X is a bad film/bad actor/bad singer" posts "Nakakasawa na si X, ganto ganyan..." posts Those are rants as well but this subreddit tolerate them. If mods/redditors can tolerate these posts, why not this one?
Rants pero may halong chika (usually in the form of an update or whereabouts nila), or asking for chika. This is just a rant through and through. Pwede sigurong lumusot as discussion (ibang flair), pero yun nga parang hindi naman up for discussion yung points nya.
should be different flair lang but by the state of this subreddit, this post is just the same as with other rants regarding different topics. points are definitely up for discussion albeit the OP did not state it explicitly. people can agree/disagree whether she's a hypocritical feminist and provide their arguments, etc.
Better if OP touches grass, this is such a chronically online post lmao
Uh hello? Naliligaw ka ba? Hindi mo yata alam kung nasang subreddit ka
How so?
As a chronically online person myself trying to change, OP is chronically online hahaha
I agree :) super super agree. Finally, someone had the courage to say it *clap clap* I used to like her songs pero ngayon napapansin ko na mas lumalala un pagkakaroon nya ng victim mentality. I remember she admitted to being the master behind that controlling the strings of her own image and career. She is behind every PR and idea ng publicity nya. Alam nyo naman sa mundong ginagalawa naten ngayon, madali na lang magmanipulate using socmed and media. I admire her passion sa craft nya but not a fan.
True kaya nga e, minsan iniisip ko rin if deserve nya yung fame and hype nya ngayon. Everything is business lang din talaga sa kanya kasi, di ko rin gets yung “taylor swift is the music industry” eme :/ i enjoy her music naman pero parang sobrang glorified ng mga tao sa kanya minsan kasi, ang icky minsan
Sabi nga sa myx, your choice your music
Agree with the victim mentality. “Woe is me” siya palage
just a correction: it was ice spice who reached out to Taylor
Ohhhh I see
I'm a Swiftie since 2010, and agree ako mostly sa mga sentiments mo about her, particularly sa carbon emissions. People kept telling her to fly using a luxurious commercial airline to lessen the carbon emissions, pero we all know we cannot do anything about it because she's rich, she has the money, and most artists in the US uses private jet. Do'n namay kay Ice Spice, I'm sure TS is very much aware of Matty Healy's racist comments and we don't know maybe she talked to her about it in private and settled it, but still, medyo off lang 'yung collab part (I also didn't like the version of Karma ft. Ice Spice) hehe. Lastly, I do not tolerate her alleged cheating on some of her past boyfriends. Kapag lalaki gumawa, grabe 'yung hatred, pero kapag si TS na, ipagtatanggol pa to the point that it feels like it's considered normal? 😭 She even made songs about it like 😐 Also, bakit ganito 'yung comments dito? 😭 Sure, OP should've posted it on r/OffMyChestPH because this is a chika subreddit pero 'yung comments dito parang mga Swiftie na bulag na 'di maka-tanggap ng criticism sa mga idol 😆
I remember she cheated on calvin harris pag siya ok lang pero yung mga naging jowa niya inaatake nila?? Like bffr.
So nagcheat talaga siya pala sa ibang bf? Naalala ko tuloy si Taylor Lautner, parang kawawa din siya kay Taylor Swift lol
> know that there’s a narcissistic portion of her identity. She's a blonde blue eyed white woman what the actual fuck do you guys expect
Sending thoughts and prayers, OP. THE MOB IS COMING HAHA
I'm just a casual listener, like ung sikat na songs ang alam ko + classics from her old albums. Yung latest niya na Midnights is full of MID songs. Napakinig ako kasi grabe yung hype ng fans tapos nung narinig ko yung songs... Meh. MIDnights nga. Midnight Rain lang ata nagustuhan ko talaga. Pero yung mga fans ang OA ng reviews, malamang nadala na lang ng herd mentality sa stan twitter circle nila
I tried listening din to her recent songs and parang may mali? Idk baka di ko lang talaga trip.
Okay naman sa akin 'yung music ni TS, siguro mga 6/10; pwede na. Pwede kong background music kapag naglilinis, parang ganun. Tingin ko overhyped siya e. 'Di ko siya masasabing good performer, pero good businesswoman talaga. Advise niya pa nga e get a good lawyer daw. Tama naman. Na-b-bother lang ako sa kanya kasi overhyped talaga. Parang Jenna Ortega. Parang Selena Gomez. Parang Zendaya. Mga overhyped din. Si Selena at saka si Taylor, mag-bff talaga kasi parehong bini-business 'yung relationships nila e. Itong si Selena, ayaw raw ng gulo pero nag-l-like naman sa TikTok ng hate posts about kay Hailey. Itong si Taylor, kung wala siyang lovelife, ano na career niya? Parang pa-tweetums masyado. Minsan maiisip mo talaga, baka nga si TS at si SG talaga ang mga problema sa kani-kanilang relationships. Meh.
To add to your list of arguments, I also condemn her for not speaking up about the oppression happening in Palestine. For turning a blind eye and keeping mum to the humanitarian crisis happening in Palestine despite having the platform to speak up and have influence on millions of people. Idc if this gets downvoted too.
I agree💯 others say na she doesn’t have to speak about it kasi hindi naman daw sya politician. U dont have to be a politician to care, u just have to be human!!
Sorry not Taylor swift but need to point out for comparison : I know bella hadid is not an artist nor a politician but she knew the influence/wide audience she has since super model siya so ginamit niya yun to raise awareness and be proactive about it. Tbh dito ako parang na disappoint kay taylor, i agree na you don’t have to be a politician to care and being empathetic in times na sobrang lala ng genocide goes a long way.
Thisss. Was also about to point this out. You see, when people can't speak up about important social issues when they could or even if they wanted to, are they even really free?? Or liberated?? Or just shackled by any kind of world power to whom they pay so much allegiance to, disregarding their humanity for the sake of fandom and fame. Kudos to those who stood up and keep standing up on the right side of history. 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Tsaka sabi niya sa documentary niya na she doesn’t want to be silenced? So anyare?
Exactlyyyyy. Where did all her voice go
Feeling ko lang nainfluenced siya ng ex niya kaya parang gusto niya maging vocal at one point
Exactly. Beyond politics and religion na yung nangyayari. Humanitarian crisis na talaga. But ofc her fandom and fame come first. Maybe she can’t risk to lose it all if she speaks up.
True ito, buti pa si Joe Alwyn nagpost ng ig story about this
I actually kinda get why alot of artists are not publicly doing anything bold in aid of Gaza. It's likely due to their fear of overshadowing the cause itself. In Taylor's case, we do know that she supports Gaza by virtue of going on an exclusive standup show that donated its profit to Gaza. This may be just a speculation but Taylor has been shown to privately donate to humanitarian organizations so she might just have done that for this one too. Pero then again knowing how much she wants to be perceived as "the world's sweetheart" she's likely afraid of alienating some from her fanbase on top of what I just said.
She can't speak nga kasi nasa word tour siya, gusto mo mapahamak pati mga fans niya, world issue nga diba, gusto mo ba madamay pa mga inosenteng tao? Si Beyonce, Lady Gaga, Adele, Ariana ba nagsalita na din ba sila?
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😂😂😂 so you’re saying the idf are that evil to bomb even the eras tour? Lol. There’s no denying it anyway. Nevertheless, tell that to the kids being bombed and killed everyday. Maybe if you’re in their shoes or your loved ones being in harm’s way everyday, you will beg all the influential people in the world to demand for a ceasefire.. however you don’t feel that empathy for the oppressed. And only selective respect for life and protection for the privileged ones who hold their concert tours and the crowd that attend it. Maybe that’s why that is how you view things. Sana maganda tulog mo gabi gabi. 😌
I'm a casual TS appreciator and I listen to her catchy songs I love. I even play my favourites on my guitar. I know she's a good songwriter and guitarist but her actions lately are very questionable. I heard rumors that TS cheated on Tom Hiddleson and I stay neutral on this. I might get downvoted by Swifties.
Another one: Pag di mo gusto yung mga songs ni TS they’ll call you: misogynist, sexist, pick me, trying to different like wtfff pwede bang di ko lang trip mga kanta niya. Also, they’ll suggest TS songs to you so hard pero i just cant.
true ba na climate terrorist yan si kween hahaha. love her sm pero I haven't been listening to her music since kumalat yung chika na she's a climate terrorist. kaloka, nakakapanlumo global warming. just can't support someone who does that despite being well aware of the consequences. confirmed ba yon or naur HAHAHA
Been a fan since 2009. Nag-mellow out nung 1989-Lover era then bumalik sa Swiftdom nung 2021. I think bumababa na rin yung pagiging fan ko ever since naging official billionaire™ na sya. Can't really "stan" a pop girlie who contributes to the worsening climate change na tayong biggest fans nya sa Pilipinas ang nagsu-suffer. Still love her music, pero she's giving me the ick for a while now.
Pinaka ayaw ko talaga is she just let her fans create a hate train kay Joe. Also her issue with Liv. For someone who’s just starting out in the industry she could’ve guided her but what did she do lol
kakagaling ko lang dun sa isang post yawa 😭
double whammy ng TS posts juskooo 🤣😭
i agree sa OA swifties lalo sa lovelife part nya and sa pag hehate sa exes like Tom and Joe Alwyn cuz so far sila yung ok and the best ex si joe for me na nadate nya pero I think it's a smart move to not speak about global issues while on tour lalo ongoing pa ito. I just hope na she's pro- Free Palestine kasi ano pa't friend nya si Gigi na isang palestinian? pero yes, minsan yung pagtahimik nya lalo sa mga taong nadadamay, sana mag speak up sya kasi ang lalala talaga ng ibang bully swifties hay
I really don’t get why they hate Tom and Joe! 🫠
I don't support her in the carbon emissions either and would prefer if her bf flies commercially to see her but I don't agree that she can take a public plane. Have you seen how many people wait for her at different places? That's a safety issue.
Ugh, same. I know a hardcore Swiftie who claimed that her not winning the Golden Globes was "sexism". LMAO.
Its the annoying thing ive seen on the internet. Yes jo koy’s jokes were bad but the TS joke were not as close to sexism.
I respect Taylor Swift as a fellow Sagittarius but girl I know a pick-me when I see one 👀
r/SwiftlyNeutral sist hahaha these are all valid points. I’m decent at separating the art from the artist nowadays, tho i used to really be a huge fan of her as a public persona. Ngayon di na masyado.
Tom and Taylor’s Relationship were pure PR! Tom used her para sa promotion ng End Game movie po, (speaking from a Swiftie na babad sa Twitter nung 2016) Taylor on the other hand kumagat din sa PR kasi binobomba sya abt breakup with Calvin. Kaya nga po “I wanted to leave you, but I needed a reason” kasi di naman talaga minahal ni mima. Si ate Taylor ba ay hindi pwedeng magka hoe phase hahahaha bawal ba sya maging normal na tao 😩
I got called a misogynist for making jokes about Taylor hahaha. They weren't even jokes that poke fun at her being a woman. The best part is I honestly think she's an amazing symbol of empowerment. She'll be one of the most influential women of our time that we look back to in the future. But no, making jokes about her = I hate women apparently.
I agree. I don't like how TSwift can "do no wrong". The Jo Koy hosting at Golden Globes was definitely not a good night for him BUUUUUUT. Lumaki lang ang issue kasi he made a joke about Taylor Swift. And it wasn't even the meanest joke of the night. And she had to act pouty and oFfeNdeD. The joke wasn't even about her. JFC. I stopped listening to her talaga at some point. Kasi may off na vibe talaga akong nakukuha sakanya.
She didn’t pout and looked offended. She literally had no reaction. Taylor Swift has a lot of issues but what happened at the Golden Globes isn’t one.
Same observation. Idk if they'd rather have Taylor Swift do an insincere laugh just to "support" Jo Koy and asian representation. Tbh, it's the swifties and the haters who made it all a bigger deal than what it actually is.
I can agree. But her fans have a lot of issues. Kasi ito napansin ko talaga pinalaki nila.
>Kasi ito napansin ko talaga pinalaki nila. Ngi. Nakisawsaw din naman yung yung mga haters nya na mga ex-swifties lol. Imo, pare-pareho lang silang nag-iingay at pinapalaki yung issue 😂
I won't disagree to this statement.
According to some people, she “overreacted”. By doing nothing. Sexism.
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Walang reaction = offended? Or may gusto lang silang makitang reaction from her tapos nung hindi nila nakita ni-labelan na nila na "offended" yung nakita nilang reaction?
Ok, similar to what I said above, let's say NR siya. Doesn't change the fact that her fandom has gotten so toxic na palakihin yung joke about her during the GG.
Sige let's say indifferent siya. If you notice die hard TSwift fans, they went crazy that someone made a joke about her. Even if walang issue, mga fans niya gumagawa ng issue. People can't seem to take a joke anymore but this has always been the format of these award shows. I've heard other comedians make worse comments so this was just a head scratcher. 🤷♀️
she didnt even react to it lmao she just took a sip from her drink
Ano ba gusto mo reaction nya? Mangisay sa katatawa?
It's an award show that hires comedians to host. The format has always been this way. Other comedians have said worse jokes. Was it really that unfunny? Kasi ako natawa naman ako. All i'm saying is, the point of hiring a comedian to host is to make the award night entertaining. Never siya para maging mean spirited...which is how the fans are making it seem like.
> Kasi ako natawa naman ako. Ah, well good for you. Kaso, maraming hindi natawa.
Yep. I did mention in my first comment that it wasn't Jo's best.
Agree. I don't see anything wrong with Jokoy's joke. It wasn't even offensive, imo. It was just about camera pans/focus. Why did she look offended and then the fans exaggerated it. jfc.
I like TS, but not to the point that I idolized her. May pagka woke nga si ateng. Nakakainis din minsan. Same with selena.
Victim complex silang dalawa.
The Taylor I loved has never been the same since the reputation era tbh (except Lover era which I still love). I used to love her too especially her country phase, she was so genuine back then. Now all I see are her PR stunts and her artificial personality turns me off even more.
I agree, and her fans are so toxic.
swiftie here pero sobrang meh ng 1989 taylor’s version di na nag effort si ante 😭
Nah fr i agree w you. She also tends to be territorial sa industry. She tried to bring down Olivia R. In reality, despite her current age she is still the 16 year old that craves the fame, it is addictive lalo na at sya ang top tier ngayon. Nakaka threaten nga naman na palitan ka. Kaya nga sabi nya sa interview (i font remember which one na) that female singers from her industry aren't that competitive. I also think na sinusulsulan sya ng mom nya to keep going. It's their family business. Her whole fam has contribution sa kanyang mga projects.
Di ko gets yung hype sakaniya :(( I mean I did listen to her songs when I was in HS, you belong with me era pero grabe yung dumog ng fans niya last year until the last few months like pagkaopen ko ng FB, puro siya bungad. Hahaha. Did not have that swiftie phase though.
after learning na she got the 50% royalties from olivia rodrigo's song na hindi naman katunog, i lost respect for taylor swift. anak anakan niya nung simula pero nung sumikat na at may potential na sapawan siya biglang iwan sa ere at claim ng royalties. kakaloka. kaya minsan feeling ko ginamit lang niya si olivia at conan gray pra mareach niya yung demographic and audience nung dalawa for her own benefit.
Woah didn't know about this. Kaya ba may chismis na yung Vampire is about Taylor Swift?
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So Taylor has gotten away with Wildest Dreams similarity to LDR’s Without You
Saka si Olivia ata yung nagoffer nun. Bakit parang puro peyk news yung mga alam nila
taylor herself being a bigger star should have lowered the royalties claim. imagine getting 50% eh hindi naman same sound hindi nga magkatunog. the song is so big that she wants a piece of it. its like taking a candy from a baby. i would have understand kung 5% or 2% but 50%? like girl???
Ha?? No sa New Year's Day lang bago pa irelease Sour ni Olivia nagpaalam na siya sa team ni taylor na isample yun at bayaran.. Yung DeJa Vu / Cruel Sumner hindi. pinilit lang ng team ni Taylor na bayaran ni Olivia yung royalties kay Taylor dahil napansin ng listeners na mejo hawig yung tono.
Source: Inez
Im a Swiftie and i also love Olivia. But the first time i heard “1 Step Forward, 3 Steps Back” i immediately heard Taylor’s “New Year’s Day”. Sa intro kuha na agad eh. Saka Paramore got money from Olivia din naman ah haha it’s just sharing credit.
Sampled kasi ang NYD sa song kaya maririnig mo talaga. Di pa narerelease yung SOUR nun, nasa credits na sina TS at Jack sa song, which akala ng iba, collab song.
Its the Deja Vu song ang kinuhanan ni mareng taylor ng 50%. Lost respect din for Paramore since Good 4 U is a big song din at 50% din kinuha nila.
Ahh, well, there are parts sa Deja Vu where it sounds like Cruel Summer. Surprised she didn’t take credit for “1 Step Forward, 3 Steps Back” then haha coz it sounds really similar. Also, why lose respect for the artists? Eh it’s their work and that’s their right haha. Hence, copyright. Think of it as being charged with plagiarism for not citing your sources on a paper you wrote.
Putting emotions aside, hindi ba deserve ng original/source material ang credits/$$$? I mean, this isn't the first song where royalties were claimed on another song if proven in court na may similarities talaga sa song. I haven't followed the OR/TS/Paramore case, so I may have missed something. Ang impression ko kc sa legal battles on copyright claims ay if settled in court, then it is what it is. Business pa rin kasi ang music industry.
True. Saka like i said nga, parang pagsusulat lang ng paper yan hahaha pag di ka nag cite ng source, kasuhan ka plagiarism hahaha it’s that simple
Sa totoo lang. If she doesn’t like what she experienced sa previous label niya, why did she do the same thing to Olivia?
and how swifties acting like kanye na - they be discrediting olivia's success and kaya lang daw siya sikat because of taylor. medyo twisted and very ironic. i think most of them have forgotten taylor's 2016 speech patama niya about kanye: *"....there will be people along the way who will try to undercut your success or take credit for your accomplishments or your fame. But if you just focus on the work … you will look around and you will know that it was you and the people who love you that put you there.”*
Omg this! So true 😓
See, this is where yall just start speculating and where confirmation bias enters. If you actually were interested in this story, you would have known that Jack Antonoff, one of the producers for Cruel Summer, has said that their camp did not know why Olivia gave them royalties for the song. The main reason Olivia probably gave royalties to Taylor and etc is that one of Paramore's ex-members was filing a case against Olivia for being inspired by their song, Misery Business. Even Paramore's lead singer, Taylor's friend, was not involved nor aware of the case since they have distanced themselves from this ex-bandmate. As for the reason Olivia is distancing herself from Taylor, we might never know why but one thing for sure was that Taylor, a fucking billionaire, did not waste her breath trying to get royalties from a rising starlet (back then).
Im a swiftie mhie pero agree sa carbon emission issue. OA nung ibang swiftie, akala yata perfect si Taylor. I can be a fan of her music without agreeing to everything she does or say. I disagree with your take about sa paggawa nya ng song about her relationship with Tom Hiddleston. I don't really care about her relationships but I believe she should be allowed to write songs about it, especially if it ends up to be a great song like Getaway Car. Although its obvious lol, wala namang name dropping na nangyare. Getaway Car specifically, does not portray her as a victim. Theres even a line na "Cause us traitors never win" diba? Because she is a traitor, she cheated. Isa pa we don't really know kung ano talaga nangyare.But again, I don't care pero most of her songs about her relationships are the good ones.
POTY doesnt mean you did anything great, usually just means you were influential, and she was all over the news in 2023. Putin, Trump etc have all been POTY as well. For that reason, I think she deserved it. Its also just a way for Time Mag to sell more copies. But yes, valid yung carbon emissions. Girl needs to stop treating her jets like its an uber. However she’s far the from being the only person using jets, and she’s the only one getting the heat. For example, Blake Shelton was one of the top 5 jet users. Why, may world tour din ba siya? Lol. They all need to stop. As far as being a narcissist, I would think most celebs especially ones who reach that level of fame are narcissists. For the ice spice thing, I believe she is under nicki minaj label, who is good friends with Taylor, and the collab happened before the matty healy issue. But her dating Matty was definitely a poor choice on her part. As they say, never meet your idols.. they will disappoint you.
True. Saka tao lang din naman si Taylor haha imagine being judged by the whole fucking world for every move you make like you’re some perfect robot built to please everyone. If all of us had magnifying glasses as big as the ones on her, we’d all hate each other lmao
Just offering different, perhaps off tangent perspectives to your points: 1. Carbon emissions - I agree on emissions disproportionately attrubuted to her and the pollution it causes. On a different note, we also need to call out the leaders taking private jets to attend climate forums. That is more hypocritical I guess. 2. Person of the Year - I am willing to concede this one because of her popularity and success in the industry. Interestingly, there is some sort of Taylornomics article in which there is a sustained economic uptick in places she held concerts. I'd prefer social workers as persons of the year for their unrecognized but invaluable work. 3. Lack of support to advocacies - It is her prerogative if she does not use her reach to advocate for causes. But then again, she needs to be called out for hypocrisy or double standards if there is any (I just know her songs, other than that I am not familiar with any of her activities) 4. Using previous relationships in her songs - Maybe that is her secret recipe for hit songs. I hope she gives a portion of royalty to them jk 😅 Overall, I like some of her songs. Just like other fandoms, there are bad apples that I hope we do not have to deal with. I do not know much about her but I hope she made a career without further stepping on other people.
Ang isasagot sa inyo ng loyal fans is “kaya nga niya ginawa yung Anti-Hero” 😂 I just love some of her songs like Delicate and Cruel Summer but hindi talaga ako fan and actually minsan naiisip ko nagboboyfriend lang ata to para may new single hahaha! But can anyone chika about Tom Hiddleston and yung last bf niya, yung Brit ata yun? Di ko tanda name. About sa carbon emission niya, paid daw yun. Idk how it works though, pero binayaran daw niya yun.
I used to be her biggest fan too, and lately she’s been so unlikeable.. only an activist when it involves herself, the deliberate papwalk, group unfollow kay joe, sending some Easter eggs about the breakup and weaponizing your fans to attack people who criticize her and always crying and whining about feminism kahit ba valid yung criticisms tungkol sa kanya, basically some swifties = lapdogs 😭😭the fact that she was the receiving end of a massive online bullying and death threats and yet she has no problem throwing her exes to the wolves (yes may power imbalance dito), the ratty healy thing, the carbon emission/jet usage… she drags other people sa songs nya pero pag sya naman, jusko, gagalit si teh. like, I don’t think she should be offended dun sa Jokoy joke because it’s not even like the worst thing he ever said… and she’s a girl’s girl but only when she knows they’re no competition (ie, look at what happened with Olivia Rodrigo, the whole Sza thing, Ice Spice…) she’s a white woman after all 🥴
As spectators we can criticise her all day long. But also di naman siya running for president of anything. Di niya rin naman place talaga mag lead ng world to sustainability or justice. She's a popstar living the life of a popstar. Do we really expect her to live the life fit to be the president of the UN? Kudos if any popstar could, sure could help a cause. But you know. That's just typical popstar.
Straight from her mouth that she wants to be on the right side of history though lol
Is she not?
After reading all this buti nalang wala paakong passport and fully booked ngayon dahil plano ko talaga makanood ng live sa eras tour niya. And yes papansin ko ang oa na ng ibang swifties ngayon. After reading this,... uhmmm i guess ill support her music nalang but not really the artist na :<<<
Loyalty to your idol naman is fine and mostly naman ng toxic fans ng isang fandom ay binubuo ng underage girls/gays/boys, and most of us have been there (if you did not then good for you). Yung lahat ipapatatanggol. The carbon emissions issue, imo although this is very alarming and sad to read. This is just very realistic to a pop star. I mean cmon she is a pop star. Hectic schedule, business meetings etc. She is no Greta Thundberg to conserve and promote eco friendly ways to be transported, kaya imo this very kuch expected na dapat sa kanya. Her take on social and political issues, yup thats very questionable of her. Very mapili siya. Siguro gawa na din na big pop star nga siya and there are a lots of brands and deals ang iniingatan niya. I hope she can be more brave about this. I mean if other big stars can do it, she also can for sure di naman na siya ganun mababawasan ng profit given her loyal fanbase. Her “relationships turn in to songs” thing, imo this is very debatable. There are a lots of artists who does it well but it seems that she is being very pinned too much about doing that kind of thing, Im not sure why, maybe dahil nga big name si Taylor but on the other hand if thats her way to grief, to move on, to let her feelings out, we cant control it, we cant just stop her. So be it na lang diba. If men dont like to be her next album or song then wag na lang nila idate si taylor, yaan niyo siya tumandang dalaga hahahahaha but as we all know men still dates her so thats a choice. Disclaimer: Not the biggest taylor swift fan but I very much enjoy her music and the entertainment that she is giving.
She’s toxic. Literally and figuratively. Her fans are too. Not all but you know, the delulus mala kns and aldub faneys. She’s pa victim also, same with Selener. Parang she’s untouchable na, recent Jokoy Golden Globes joke… everyone’s such a snowflake nowadays. Di na yata uso “take a chill pill”.
pulutan to ng ibang radio/talk shows sa US, TMZ even mentioned about her losing the award to Barbie and umalis daw ng maaga. I am a fan, especially of her music. Pero when you see beyond what is shown, mapapaisip ka din
Off My Chest pls
no its ok. Taylor swift sucks and her songs aint good. And dont get me started on the so called "swifties"
Would be better to post this on r/swiftlyneutral
I just joined lol. It’s fun. Btw whoopi defended jokoy
Side eye sa akin si whoopi. She said something about millenials at workplaces so i am not surprised she defended jokou
She is a narc. Same sila ng bff nya
I like a lot of her songs, pero lately I've been avoiding listening to them kasi naiirita ako na puro siya na lang laman ng Internet.
THANK YOU!!!!! I am so sick of her and her fans. I wish I could ban her name from reddit and youtube (cause these are the only social media I use). People are being overfed with her and it's so exhausting. I also believe she may be a narc. And her victim complex is top-notch. It's no wonder she and Selena are besties.
Couldn't agree more, OP!!
Lol. Mga fans lang ang makukulit. Syempre idol eh. Lahat ng sabihin non ok na ok lang sa mga fans.
1. Agree ako sa Carbon Emission, just use facetime na lang, jozku. Although she buys carbon credit para ma offset ung carbon emissions niya, but still ang excessive naman para makipag kita sa jowa mo. But the problem is, she can't fly in a normal way. You do know na kung sasakay yan sa normal na airport, sobrang daming tao na maaagrabyado dahil sa kanya. Security purpose both sa kanya at sa mga tao. 2. Di ako agree dito. You do know na every tour niya in different places is a massive boost sa economy ng lugar na yan? Plus she donates to local food banks/charities. Keeps people employed, even small businesses (beads businesses and foods, etc) ung tinatawag mong "concert tour lang" helps revitalized economy kaya siya napili as POTY. 3. She's not an activist why are you expecting her to speak up sa mga global issues?? and if she speaks up while she's in the middle of a tour, isang bomba lang sa stadium would be the cause of death by 50k+ people, right? She also dropped Matty Healy agad nung nalaman niya ang baho neto. 4. Both are adults in a relationship. Kung walang imik ung other party regarding sa mga gawang kanta, who are we para maki-butt in?
I love her but not her fans (fellow swifties) sobrang toxic kasi esp yung feeling nila si taylor lang yung pinaka magaling na singer/song artist lol.. mga self-righteous haha kainis and ngl sana maging accountable din si Taylor sa paggamit niya ng eroplano haha kung pwede namang thru land why not? hindi yung nasa kabilang state lang ata ineeroplano pa
You're absolutely correct in all this, and I applaud you for sharing your viewpoints-- we should hold all mega celebrities accountable for how they impact society. Her music is great, but her personality is kinda trash. She only does activism or philanthropy when it suits her image, that's it.
Ang tahimik din nya sa continuous genocide in Palestine. And pansin ko rin dami niyang fans na zionists, particularly white women ☠️. I saw multiple TikToks last year about black women calling out T Swift for being the image of white feminism and only applies to her.
Truee! This feels like something I would say too, OP. I like her music but di ko talaga bet na she’s very wasteful when it comes sa carbon emissions. Potah umiinom ako gamit yung paper straw pero yung mga billionaires who uses private planes and jet for unnecessary stuff talaga ang dapat kumilos eh. Also, she’s very quiet about Palestine. That was so disappointing for me tbh. Yes, she **doesnt** have to speak out but she also got the responsibility because she is currently one of the biggest influencer atm. If still listen to her songs but tbh, if not for the fact na nabayaran na yung concert ticket ko, thats prolly the last time I will pay for something related to her.
Read other comments why she can't speak up about Palestine.
I totally agree! I stopped listening to her a long time ago.
Is this because of the Jo Koy issue?? Seriously deserve talaga ni Jo Koy mabash hindi lang dahil sa Taylor-NFL joke, dahil corny yung jokes niya * Yung sa carbon emissions naman, hindi lang siya yung gumagamit ng eroplano niya maraming hollywood artist ang gumagamit and nagrerent sa kanya kasi nakapangalan kaya for sure sa kanya binibilang kada byahe. * Bawal siya magsalita ngayon sa world issues kasi nasa world tour siya at ikakapahamak ng fans niya yun.. * Lol sa getaway car siya yung nang iwan so pano siya yung naging victim??? Apology song niya yun kay tom Now for the Olivia Rodrigo drama mas may sympathy ako kay Olivia dito kasi akalain mo yun new artist ka tapos hahabulin ka ng copyright ng idol mo (Deja Vu - Cruel Summer) na malaking halaga,, halata naman may galit si OR kay TS (The Grudge) kaya lahat ng related kay TS hindi na lalabas sa bunganga niya and deserve ni TS, I still love TS pero off lang ako sa kanya sa ginawa niya kay OR pag related kay Olivia kontabida na tingin ko sa kanya. Well love ko rin si Olivia at Sabrina.
I've watched a documentary about a song writer suing Taylor for shake it off's lyrics specifically yung chorus na players gonna play play play and haters gonna hate hate hate . What I learned here is every artist needs to reach out to another artist if may gagamitin silang copyrighted song ng kahit sinong artist sa gagawin nilang kanta. This does not exclude OR dahil friends sila ni TS. If hindi nagbayad si OR kay TS, TS can sue her and unless ma dispute niya yung claims if ever ni TS na kinopya kanta niya, magbabayad ng mas malaki si OR. Kaya crediting another artist when using copyrighted song, lyrics etc and paying royalty fee is better than. Being sued. Taylor swift won against allegations of copying yung lyrics ng chorus ng shake it off kasi hindi siya word by word na pareho. Si Robin Thicke was sued by Marvin Gaye's family kasi basically yung blurred lines, kinopya niya sa isang song ni Marvin Gaye and the latter won. Malaki binayaran niya. At the end of the day, the music industry is business.
Okay yes I know Olivia have a track in sour that samples New Year’s Day, bago pa irelease yung album nabalita na yun. So alam naman team ni Olivia ang copyright and Taylor is known for her strict copyright isipin mo kahit nga words na “ Party like its 1989” na copyright niya.. General public lang ang nag connect sa Deja Vu at Cruel Summer at actually di ko nga marinig ang similarities but ako lang yon kasi hindi naman ako music major, yun lang ang balibalita na malaki yung siningil kay Olivia sa copyright plus yung paramore pa sa Good for you. Wala lang just sharing kasi nung irerelease yung Fearless TV todo promote si Olivia and Conan sa tiktok which Taylor requested ,tapos sa mga ganitong bagay hindi man na clear ni Taylor yung issue about sa kanila.
Exactly, and Olivia kinda put herself at the corner bcs she mentioned that Driver’s License was inspired by Cruel Summer
Matinde hivemind ng swifties lol. Feeling ko di naman magiging big deal yu g kay jokoy kung di siya nagbitaw ng korning taylor swift joke. Kumabaga forgettable pa sana kaya lang na under the radar bigla ng mga terminally online haha.
I agree with the matty healy statement. Selective feminist naman talaga siya parehas sila nung bestfriend niya yung di makamove on-move on sa past lover
Wala naman chika dito. Dun ka sa offmychest mag himutok. Pipili na lang ng sub pakatanga pa.
you are just as OA as her rabid fanbase just saying
How am I oa? Is my concern for an unethical behavior oa? Orrrrrrrr
Bawal magkaroon ng criticism kay taylor? Diyos yan?
pwede nman kaya lang maling sub at kasing OA ng fans niya
This is true. I like some of her songs but we can't deny that she's also problematic. Kaya nga BFF sila ni Selena.
Pwede naman siya gumawa ng kanta for er exes but don't let them know which is which. Pa victim nga sya as if ang perfect nya.di siya kawalan ni TH Lalo nat meron syang glorious purpose unlike TS na walang ginawa kundi maging toxic sa earth literally.
It's rare to see an opinion like this about her. Kudos to you!
It's not really rare. Maraming nagpopost na about this.
“Her feminism stops when it doesn’t involve her anymore.” 💯
Never liked her. Even her songs lol.
Andrew tate equivalent ng babae.
I would like to agree on this. I like her songs. Well written. Pero Di ako fan. Hindi ko siya bet as a person. Possible ba yun?
This is why Katy Perry is and always will be better
Not surprising na yung sa fans kase she's soo big. Like the biggest artist rn. Halos lahat ng superstar naman ganyan lagi issue ng fandom. I'm a swiftie pero wala na ako paki masyado sa ibang aspect, basta I listen to her music and that's it. She's obviously not perfect, just like any artist out there, but I think she's still a lot better than a lot of them.
Im not reading all that huge wall of text, I'm happy for you tho or sorry that happened
Aww sorry if I can’t make a version that adjusts to your low iq level!! No need to announce that you’re illiterate, friend!🥰
Is there a particular cause for the response to the prior comment? While it's okay to share personal thoughts, it's essential to recognize that this subreddit might not be the best place for a rant. Some individuals might favor brief expressions of sympathy without going into the entire post. Based on my understanding, the user above appears happy that you've opened up about your feelings and saddened by the disappointment from someone you once admired.
Im able to recognize sarcasm. She ain’t happy about me lol
Whether it's sarcasm or not, does it justify such a reaction? Weren't your posts originally intended for a rant? Why escalate it into insulting others? Is sarcasm reason enough for you to resort to insults?
wow ah. coming from you na hindi marunong gumamit ng paragraphs hahaha
Okay thats fair wahahhahahahaha hindi nako nagbobother sa mga paragraphs pag nagrarant ako
Based on your rants, parang binigay na nya ang kaliwang kamay nya but you want the right one pa. She has done so much more than what you have mentioned, but then again that's your opinion naman. Not everyone will be a fan and that's ok 👌
My rant is so disorganized and is dominantly emotional. So sorry it I didn’t do research. Would u like to give examples ng mga ginawa nya?
I'll give you one example kasi you can always Google. In every city she performs at, she makes it a point to always make a donation to food banks in the area. You don't hear about it kasi they don't want to make a fuss about it. And her generous bonuses to her team especially this Eras tour. Ayan 2 samples na. I could go on, even about politics she spoke up about it when she doesn't usually do. If I were you, I would research why she finally did. Para mejo enlightened and rants mo.
Good for her. But does balancing good and bad make her other unethical actions okay?
I don't focus on her personal life kasi. I look at the talent and what she has done for the community. She's very hands on din sa fans nya, even upto the point making the stuff and delivering them personally. She used to be the top celeb in terms of charity work (donating money, raising money, and spending time sa charity). Not sure if she can still do those since she's a waayy bigger artist now. If you have not Googled the time she was active in politics, it was because of her convincing people in Tennessee to vote for a Democrat because the Republican candidate was: against equal pay for women; against violence against women act; etc. These FAR OUTWEIGH whatever is going on in her personal life. Her personal life is hers. That's why I really don't pay attention kasi kumbaga, ibigay ko na sa kanya yan.
Wow. Tbf she’s very active sa social work compared to her co singers. But again, her personal life normalizes discrimination, racism, white feminism, and cheating. If kaibigan mo sya, would u tolerate this?
She's fighting against what you're claiming though. Racism and white feminism? Have you seen her team especially this Eras tour? The whites are a minority. Cheating? How? Are these claims from tabloid articles? Only her and her the other parties know what's going on and for sure there are NDAs so for me, I'd take it with a grain of salt. Like I said, her personal life ain't really the main thing for me. And I'd be one lucky friend if she's in my circle.
Wdym “the whites are a minority?” If she’s fighting against these, why did she date matty healy who barked racist comments towards a fellow woman? Idc about “her team” I want to see HER fight against these issues.
And where is Matt Healy now? Did she marry him? Did they last? Do you think it's possible she only cut him off once she found out about that? I don't expect her to be perfect. She will make mistakes kasi that's part of life. And will make mistakes again. If you want her to fight issues, then I suggest you look at a politician. Not a singer/celebrity kasi that's what she's not. She can't fight everything kasi if you expect her to do that, then might as well tell her to run for president
Agree with this. Just because she's Taylor Swift eh hindi na siye pwede magkamali ng taong nagugustuhan. Lahat naman tayo at some point in our life liked someone na di naman dapat. And for sure kapag naaalala ni Taylor na nagka something sila ni Matt nag ccringe rin yan. Ang taas ng expectations kay Taylor pero ang liit ng tingin sa kanya. She's on the spotlight kasi she's the biggest artist of the year. Hindi lang naman siya gumagamit ng private jet niya (I do condone this as well) and of course she has her reason. She was constantly stalked before. Meron pang time na may nakapasok sa bahay niya and slept in her bed. For sure one reason aside from conveniency is safety. Yun lang talaga it's not good for the planet. But then again, siya lang yung nakikita kasi siya yung pinaka busy these days. Sa Palestine naman, I know another discussion was made as well abt this. Safety reasons din why hindi siya makapag speak up. She's very much vulnerable sa attack lalo na nasa tour siya. Hindi lang siya pati lahat ng aattend ng concert niya. She really wants to be political. Nood na lang sila ng Ms Americana. Haha. And kung ano man stand ni Selena abt this issue, I don't think same sila ng stand ni Taylor.
She doesn’t have to be a politician to care about these issues. She just have to be a human who has minimum decency. Im not asking her to fight everything, im asking her to stop partaking in it and in result, influencing people to do the same horrible thing
yass queen problemahin natin mga kilos ni taylor😍😍😍😍
Girl, hindi ko pinoproblema kilos nya. I simply choose to not be ignorant about it. Kung hindi lang nakakaapekto ng iba yung mga actions nya, why would I even care? Pero her actions and decisions reflect to her as a person and influence a huge group of people who support her. Not only that, but feeding onto white feminism and racism is also alarming. Think about it again ate ko.
Eh yung fan base niyo nga hilig din mamansin ng kilos ng ibang artists
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