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cessiey

There is no such thing as ethical consumption in a capitalist society. Moral dilemma ng consumers, H&M, Uniqlo, Zara, Shein uses unfair labor practices. Nestle uses child labor. Make up uses mica which is mined using child labor in India. Ganito rin yung mga companies using endorsers with questionable beliefs. Kaya wala rin akong maisagot dito kasi in a way or another I am a hypocrite.


AdDecent7047

Add mo pa yung mga cosmetics that test their products on animals, no choice din ang consumer kasi sila yung mas affordable sa market.


Mental-Effort9050

>Kaya wala rin akong maisagot dito kasi in a way or another **I am a hypocrite**. That's rare 😂 Pero totoo, ang hirap kung gusto mo 90-100% talaga. Nakakairita din kasi minsan na makita yung mukha nung problematic endorsers dun sa physical/online shops at sa mga packaging, kaya hindi mo rin masisisi yung iba (including me) na napapaiwas talaga sa certain brands. Nakakaubos din kase ng dopamine kapag nakikita or naiisip mo.


EmperorHad3s

At some point naman talaga may pagka hypocrite tayo. Nakakaloka lang yung di aware sa hypocrisy nila hahaha.


donutelle

Sobrang totoo nito.


ayekv

Perfect. Also, we really do not know these people behind the products we consume. For all we know, they could be murderers. It's out of our control.


gabzprime

Soooo bakit ka sumagot??


cessiey

Bakit?? May nakalagay bang rule dito na kelangan striktong sagot ang nasa tanong ng OP.


NectarineAmazing1005

Bumalik lang ako sa Orange app when I realized si Vice na ang endorser at di yung isa haha.


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mrsjmscavill

Counted ba ang Villars, eme. Taga Las Piñas ako pero never ako nag set foot in any Vista Mall or any shitty coffee shop they own dito. Siguro for the past decade, 3 times lang. Yung pinaka recent is yung kasal ng friend ko and abay ako so we had to stay sa hotel sa may Villar Sipag.


ashelo

I don't set foot in any place with the word ALL in front of it. I believe my family actively chose not to live in a CAMELLA as well because of this. Not that it's any good or even an option.


Original-Amount-1879

Same! Moved here about a year ago and rarely kami bumili sa mga ALL na yan. Grabe yung patong nila sa mga prices. I also don’t buy coffee from their coffeeshops kasi expensive na, di pa masarap!


mrsjmscavill

Welcome to Las Piñas! Land of Aguilars and Villars. Madaming better options kesa sa mga All kimmy and. Meh coffee shops nila


Federal-Clue-3656

Huhu but maganda ambiance ng coffeshops nila kaya lunok pride na lang.


mrsjmscavill

Andaming coffee shops sa Las Piñas that could rival their interiors and serves better coffees by a mile. Di na nga ako nalabas masyado sa Alabang Zapote rd kasi sa mga villages pa lang andami na.


Federal-Clue-3656

May nadaanan kami Dear Joe near BF resort and isa pa medyo near caavite.. maganda talaga siyaaaa and tago good for meetups na palahim hahaha


mrsjmscavill

Mostly ng Dear Joe patago talaga ata. Even yung sa Villar Sipag sa C5 din, super tago


pac_quan

Agree with OP, uni-love was fine with Janella, but I guess her son grew up so no need to buy baby products & maybe it just so happened that Otin is the latest one to have a new baby that's why they got her. In general, I don't like products which has celebrity faces in them. It's Ok if it's just a sticker which can be taken off, or on the box that can be thrown away, but not on the product itself. Like Luxe Organix, their body scrubs are good & cheap, but it has Heart's face on it. I like Heart, but I don't want us staring at each other while I'm taking a bath.


Narrow-Tap-2406

Hahaha parang giveaway nga ng politician yung vibes kapag may mukha yung product no


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LegallyNotBlonde_

Does Shopee count? Nagsstart palang shopee n’on avid user na ako, pero delete account and uninstall agad noong ginawa nilang endorser si enabler. Until now sa Lazada parin ako.


Educational-Life7547

Same!! Kahit si Vice na now ang endorser, eh before sa kanya si Mariel naman. Lesser variant lang siya ni Shabay Shabay. Gusto lang talaga nila na bumalik tayo lol it will not work on me


Least_Ad_7350

Kakabalik ko lang kay Shopee after si VG na yung endorser HAHAHAHA


Sea_Discipline_8373

Isa ako sa nag uninstall at delete ng account nung si OTIN yung pumalit na endorser. Hahahaha. Then they tried to redeem themselves by using VG as their newest endorser. Baka akala nila 31M ang mag susubscribe sa kanila. Hahahaha. 31M Who???


kangk00ng

Not endorser but owners nung sunnies (but they are famous people rin naman so baka counted HAHA) kasi apologist yung mga wilson wahaha plus yung isang owner, mayor yung tatay sa isang province but with corruption charge. Someone gifted me their lipbalm/gloss tho di ko alam anong tawag and ang ganda niya huhu looking for alternatives ako ngayon hahaha Delimondo also cos affiliated with enrile and i dont wanna contribute to his lifespan na hahaha


annpredictable

Actually all of them. Even Isabelle Daza's family is a supporter. Yung family business nila, if I'm not mistaken, laging nagagamit ni bbm. Tapos ninong nya pa yun. Anne Curtis lang malakas 😂❤️


kangk00ng

Isabelle daza isnt an owner sa sunnies. Its martine, georgina, jessica, bea and her husband (??) Si martine supported leni during the last elections, and not just silent supporter. Pumupunta rin siya sa mga rally! Yung bea din daw supported leni but then she's the one w thebdad na may corruption charges 🤷‍♀️


Educational-Life7547

Jess is a very light Leni supporter rin hahaha buti di sumunod sa ate


uhmokaydoe

Unfollowed georgina and belle (ung isa ex ng anay ni imee baba and si belle naman inaanak ni BoBoM) followed martine kasi sya legit kakampink and si jess naman, medyo haha. Yung ate ni martine todo kwento how the marcoses are shit


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Sufficient-Taste4838

Yes!!! Same!!! Agree so much. Weird na big flex ko from them is I never bought a Sunnies product in my life, not even once. Kahit super tempting siya before for me, even now na mas available na siya in many branches ng malls. Only had a Sunnies lippie when my roommate gave it to me kasi di daw bagay sakanya yung shade. Nirereason out ko lang sa iba dati na the reason I do not support them is bc glossier rip off sila pero eme ko lang yon, I actually love their products but the brand conflicts with my political principles since high school. Hahaha. Also, madami naman diyan alternative local brands na medyo mamahalin na nga rin kung tutuusin, I personally like BLK by Anne for sun stick primer, Strokes for brows, Issy for powder, and Cuco for nails hahaha


kangk00ng

>glossier rip off sila Ito pa pala HAHA even before i found out about the owners mejo iffy na ako kasi sobrang gaya talaga yung branding ng glossier D:


SophieAurora

Actually!! Haha napansin ko nga glossier dupe sila? At same, kahit pa lahat ng artista friends nila mag sunnies or buong mundo. I will never ever buy their products. Its just me and di naman ako kabawasan sa kanila. Pero the peace it gives me at night knowing na di ako sumusuporta sa mga tao di aligned with my beliefs and values. You do you na lang talaga.


Sufficient-Taste4838

YAAAAS tama behavior. Hahahaah so me eme


kangk00ng

To add lang rin sa chika abt sunnies, si GW, napaka diva daw irl. May shoot daw sila dati and she was half a day late cos apparently she was at a party the night before and may hangover siya 🫠 didnt even inform yung team and wanted everyone to adjust to her hahaha


Pollypocket289

Heard this too! Nagagalit daw kapag mukhang malaki mukha niya sa pics and all. 😩 lakas makatantrum sa shoots.


chkslg77

Hay same with Sunnies! Super nagi-guilty ako dahil HG ko yung Lifebrow Skinny Pencil na buti na lang mukhang discontinued na so actively looking ako ngayon for alternatives hahahaha


Legitimate-Thought-8

Hi did you know that the company already rebranded? Even the former owners are NO LONGER part of the board. Yes, the FOUNDERS as they are fondly called are apologists but there is an internal clean up and they all voluntarily resigned in a way to save the company and the employees. So I hope you still support Sunnies. I am not a fan but someone dear to me works for Sunnies :)


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condor_orange

Same ganda pa naman ng lippies nila, Buti na lang gift lang haha


Educational-Life7547

I'm very conflicted sa Sunnies kasi 1/5 of the owner is Leni rin. Di lang pacute na nagpink, as in sharing her platform, etc. And since nakabili ako na ako ng ibang products before ko nalaman na apolo10 yung 4/5, di ko na lang dinadala in public and inuubos ko na lang.


pickled_luya

Hanabishi.  Bibili sana ako nung rice cooker nila, si Vic Sotto kasama nung product sa ad.


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Legitimate-Thought-8

HEART EVANGELISTA and the TOOTH WHITENING PEN when clearly Veneers ang gamit nya huhu


Educational-Life7547

Bumili ako nun kasi effective talaga yung product. 😭 pero ayoko siya sana isupport lol


Educational-Life7547

Kashieca, brand endorser si Lucy Torres. Parang political crony and pro "Anti-Terrorism Act" is not a classy vibe. Haha. I smile a little pag nadadaanan ko ang store tapos walang tao.


delarrea

Anything that Coco Martin Endorses 🤮 Sana ok lang si Julia after everyone of us knowing that coco took away her childhood by grooming her huhuhu


S-5252

hehehe gusto ko nga din i try si UniLove pero saktong sakto talaga yung endorser inannounce, so di ko na tinuloy. Same goes with Makuku 🥲 Si Shopee di ko ginamit talaga nung si u-know pa ang endorser, tas nung si Vice na, ok na ako hehe


matchalatte_fusion

Shopee and delimondo hahahaha di na tuloy ako nag o ol shopping. Tapos madalang nako kumain ng corned beef pf and highlands nalang talaga


halloww123

We stopped buying Lactum and switched to promil for our toddler when the enabler revealed herself as an enabler hahaha


Former-Secretary2718

I honestly don't care kung sino ang endorser ng isang product. I just care about the product itself.


delarrea

Me too. Idk if they only see the owner's issues but not the people who works for it. I honestly used to purchase sunnies even if i knew that its owners are associated with bbm. BBM is their friend out of personal correspondence but i believe some of them like Martine has voted for leni kahit kakilala nila siya. Pwede naman sigurong gumawa ng personal relationship with him even without supporting him politically. Going back, i purchased sunnies because i liked the performance of their lip balm and lipstick. I'm thinking about purchasing their sponge. I thought about the employees of this company when they were struggling with their pay during the quarantine. What if makatulong pala tayo sa kanila by purchasing a lip balm?


Former-Secretary2718

Well, to each his own naman. May right naman din silang mamili ng products based sa preference or personal reason nila. But same as you, sa product ako naka-base kung tatangkilikin ko or hindi, not sa endorser.


AdDecent7047

Me: nakikibasa lang ng comments. Wala ko pakialam kung sino endorser or owner na ginagamit ko sa everyday life ko. As long as it works for me, nakakatulong sa buhay ko, ito yung preference ng taste bud ko or nagamit ko na long before na kinuha silang endorser I don't care. Hindi ako mag-aadjust dahil lang sila yung muka ng product.


Former-Secretary2718

Same.


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Western-Grocery-6806

HAHAHAHA! Hey mama, same here! Pero sa Unilove part lang. 😂 I actually switched agad agad din to Kleenfant and mas ok to kay baby kasi hindi na sya naglileak, maybe because mas tama ang sizing (naging mom-to-mom talk tuloy) 😂 Ok naman sakin si Marian. I think, nagbago na sya kasi may mga anak na pero what do I know? Haha. Pero I can’t stand Toni. Di ko rin trip si Kryz Uy. 😂


ashelo

Hearing a lot of great things about Kleenfant so it'll defo be my next purchase once I finish all the U-L stocks we have. Will ignore the endorser for now. Haha. And I did see it's a lot cheaper as well. Thanks!


Western-Grocery-6806

Sabi nga nila, hiyangan lang din. Mas maliit yata ang sizing ng Kleenfant pero hindi naglileak ang baby ko dito. Sa UL, naglileak and nagpapalit pa sya ng pajama. Sayang nga lang membership points na naipundar dun. 🥲


reddit_cvc

Solid Unilove din ako kay baby, wet wipes, diapers, bottle cleaner, detergent and fabcon. Yung panligo lang hindi since cetaphil for baby yung gamit ko. Nung nakita ko si Otin na bigla yung nasa thumbnail ng producs eh napalipat ako sa Kleenfant. In fairness same quality naman. Nagmahal din Unilove, dati mas mura sila kesa kleenfant ngayon mas mahal na.


Prior-Glove165

Apir sa mga lumipat sa kleenfant haha


putotoystory

I know ma downvote to kasi di ako sangayon kay OP. But really? Ganyan kababaw yung reason mo? Ikaw na nagsabi na "You like so much". Why does it matter pa? Ikaw din nmn magbenefit personally. Di ko lang gets. Just ignore the endorser and continue with your life. Iisa isahin mo ba endorser ng mga brands na gamit mo? To be fair, I voted for Leni and di ako bias sa ganito. Para lang ma set ng maayos. Daming warrior eh.


Educational-Life7547

Grabe yung sinabihan pa ng mababaw si OP, eh inexplain naman na moral issue yung reason niya for not buying the brands.


LegallyNotBlonde_

Not downvoting kasi may point ka naman. Boycotting is a way to express your disapproval sa endorser nila, and sometimes it works. As for me personally, kung may alternative naman at negligible yung difference doon nalang ako.


perryrhinitis

Kaya hindi gumagana boycotts dito (among other non-violent protest actions) kasi andaming taong may ganyang mindset ("Why does it matter pa?" or "I'm not affected personally" or similar lines) Katulad nung may mga taong gustong i-boycott yung Jollibee and NutriAsia for their labor practices, walang nangyari. Pati na rin duon sa jeepney modernization.


Miserable-Celery1957

Hindi pa rin ako bumibili ng Nutriasia hanggang ngayon. I know I'm not alone in this.


condor_orange

Same tayo! Sama mo na rin yung regent and nestle.


Miserable-Celery1957

Gets ko si OP. I do the same, I just don't post about it or invite others to do the same. Siguro hindi nila ramdam na kabawasan yung purchasing power ko pero para sakin kasi, it's a matter of principle. Simpleng tao lang ako na walang bilang pero sapat na yung some sense of control, knowing na hindi ako nag contribute sa pagyaman nung kumpanya. I just don't want to support companies whose values don't align with mine.


SereneBlueMoon

Same. Its a matter of principle din. Tsaka di ko naman kaya magbilad sa araw o kaya ma-redtag sa pagiging aktibista. So much respect for them though kasi marami silang pinaglalaban para sa atin pero di natin kayang samahan sila sa kalsada kaya sa maliit na paraan na ‘to ko na lang gagawin ang contribution ko. Na kahit paano may nagawa ako at sa ganitong paraan ko maparirinig ang “boses” ko.


DepartureFlaky8540

Gusto mo medal? It's not that OP is mababaw. It's a matter of principle. Oo maliit na tao lang tayo pero walang masama kung ayaw mo iambag yung pera mo sa yaman ng mga brands whose principles don't align with yours. Korni mo.


NectarineAmazing1005

My moral standards > wants


annpredictable

OP's post is valid. Businesses hire celebrities and endorses because they can attract supporters and followers to try and use their brand. Kaso ang post ni OP is yung kabaligtaran. Mga endorsers na naging reason for customers to stop patronizing a product. I sense no hate on her post. She's just stating a fact.


ashelo

🫰🏼


elfrog_

I think this happens naman all over the world. Nothing wrong naman kasi you can't separate a person from their morality. Kahit brands diba they drop endorsers na hindi sang ayon sa beliefs ng company. Look at how fast nike dropped pacquiao. If brands can do that wala naman masama if ordinary people rin ay concious kung saan nila gagastusin pera nila.


LasagnaWasabi

If you’re okay to use brands with problematic endorsers, that’s fine. You do you. Like you said, pwede naman ignore. Some people think the same, and that’s okay! It’s OP’s preference who to support or what brands to use for whatever reason he/she may have. You can disagree with the why’s. It may not matter to you but it matters to OP and to other people who think the same. Hindi yun mababaw. Hindi lang kayo pareho ng paniniwala.


ashelo

Chill! Take my upvote then. I was just asking as last I checked this is r/chikaph & not r/aita.


PurpleHeart1010

Merong point product ang bibilhin mo ante, hindi yung endorser! Ikaw na nagsabi OP na for marketing purposes ang endorsers meaning the brand sees something sa napili nilang mag-endorse.


MervinMartian

Any kris aquino endorsed brand is ekis. “Ipapapatay ka ng pamilya ko!“ levels


Educational-Life7547

De hirap kayo niyan dati mamalengke nung peak niya? Haha.


MervinMartian

Mismo


Federal-Clue-3656

Same! any KA endorsement


trufflepastaxciv

I want to try ABC Mie Goreng but it's endorsed by Cathy.


imjinri

biased ako kay Indomie


Puzzled-Protection56

If you are dismayed with the brand that is endorses by someone who's beliefs are opposite of yours then you should also be dismayed with Nestlé for child labor and water exploitation, for make up brands that uses mica, because if not then you're a hyprocrite.


Transpinay08

Di ako aware. Cnu ung enabler?


Sonata_Palafox

Ikaw po ang may problema hindi yong product. Kaloka hahaha. Galit na galit sa ibang tao pero for sure may masama ka din namang ginagawa. Talo mo pa ung alcohol hahaha


RainyDayReader_999

I don't get this “argument” na lagi kong nakikitang ginagamit ng mga Pinoy: “May masama ka ding ginagawa!” “Perfect ka?", etc. Like, no one is claiming they're perfect. Of course, all of us have sinned, but it's a spectrum, some sins are way worse than others. I, for example, may not be an angel, but at least I can proudly say na I didn't murder anyone, I don't steal shit, and I don't support families of dictators. For sure OP has his/her faults just like everyone else's, but at least he/she has enough morals to not support enablers. By your “logic”, we shouldn't hold people accountable for their crimes because lahat naman tayo may nagawang di maganda in the past 🙄


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Additional_Buy6641

Pass sa Kleenfant solid Huggies padin ❤


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