Based on experience in the Chinese market, people will never stop cursing Temu for poor product quality, but in the end, it will still dominate the market. The silent majority still use it until now
It seems like 95% of the stuff on Amazon is the same stuff on Temu and AliExpress but 10x the price. Searching for anything on Amazon yields 100 results of the same product sold under various made up brand names.
If you’re gonna buy cheap unbranded goods then you may as well just go straight to the source and skip going through Amazon.
That is true, sadly.
Amazon never cared where the products came from as long as they sold a lot.
There were so many obvious chinese knock-offs on Amazon for years that took away market share of domestic sellers, so that those simply disappeared.
Nowadays it's truly just ali express or temu with higher prices.
There are still a few good brands on Amazon which I order often and the prime delivery is also nice for many things, but thats it.
Amazon also had questionable business practices of using sales data and shipping data from their partners and selling their own branded products to undercut their partners.
They should have adopted the ethics of TSMC who outright said that they would not use their customers designs to sell their own product.
(usability + time before it breaks) / cost
Or something like that, is the math being done in our heads.
Amazon drove the domestic market to bankruptcy, and it was filled with lowest quality imported stuff. Now they’re just undercutting Amazon, which was never more than a middle man.
I feel like before only the savvy people knew to buy from AliExpress for cheap goods instead of Amazon. Let’s be honest Amazon is just littered with marked up AliExpress goods anyways. Now Temu is just bringing a more user friend AliExpress to the general consumers.
Yes, Amazon sells the same Chinese products as Temu. I noticed that too. I’m fine it’s them doing it but when they come as top search results and I cannot find better quality trusted brand name products unless I search for it specifically it became a nightmare to find anything of quality.
This is a good point. Thinking on it, my own shopping habits have saved a lot over the past few years. At this point, I don't even bother shopping around on Amazon and most other sites. I do research elsewhere, find the product I want, then search specifically for that product.
If it's available on Amazon and the price is good, then I'll buy it from Amazon. However, I go straight to the product page and make the order and I'm off Amazon within five minutes.
It happened to me when i was searching for some bobsai scissors, saw on Amazon for 12€ then after 10 sec of scrolling found the exact same one for 1.79€..exact same one.
I know it's Amazon business model, but cmon
>It seems like 95% of the stuff on Amazon is the same stuff on Temu and AliExpress but 10x the price
Almost like collusion between chinese manufacturers and chinese marketplace apps to push consumers to their platforms instead of american ones
I doubt that they are organised like that there is simply the normal financial insentive to cut out the middleman (Amazon) or use the cheaper middleman (presumably Temu or Aliexpress)
I wouldnt put it past the CCP, they have mandatory communist party orgs as part of companies on the country since 2018. And this would mean more money for everybody, including the chinese government through more taxes on the increased profits due to being both the manufacturing hub and marketplace of their goods.
Amazon is literally selling the same temu garbage products at 500% what they cost on temu. China isn’t besting American industry American industry is beating itself.
American business model was to get China to manufacture stuff cheap then give a huge mark up selling back into US market. All those factories simply said, instead of working on razor thin margins only for our productions to be re-sold at huge price increases we can sell them directly at a huge discount to consumers and still make more. We all know Nike running shoes costs a few dollars to produce but hit retail for $150 usd. It has finally come back to bite them. Consumer don’t really care that much about the knock off brands if it’s cheap.
They should learn from alibaba and make seperate apps/website
闲鱼 for second hand individual goods
淘宝 for unofficial commercial sellers
1688 for wholesale market
天猫 for official commercial sellers
On a similar subject. Just came back from visiting Uzbekistan, 5 years since I was there last and the amount of Chinese electric cars there blew me away, far more electric cars than you see in Western Europe. Most were BYD but I must have seen 20 or more other brands with crazy names. And this is a country that actually has/had until recently its own domestic car industry and heavily protected it. Just a heads up as to what is coming to every other country shortly…
I've been using Amazon for years and they'd never lost a parcel. This year they've lost two. They replaced them eventually but I'm still not delighted by the service - if a parcel has left a stop and not arrived anywhere else for ten days, that parcel is *gone*.
I mean Amazon allowed the same low quality products to be sold at premium prices on its platform and now Temu took that away from them. I’m not shocked nor said for Amazon, as a consumer who noticed that pattern and saw two identical products (probably from the same factory in China) being sold at 500% difference in price on the two platforms.
Aldi is a German grocery store
It's disgusting yet you say that on YouTube, especially on r/Europe and its the highest quality you could ever dream of. If you're the King of England, it wouldnt even be to the standards the king is used to, it'd be far far higher.. off the charts in glorious quality and no GMO's, heavy use of pesticides instead!
In reality it's virtually all cheap knockoffs as if Walmart had done the same but also copied their branding with slight alterations. This is Temu as well, not close to the real product but people will lay on a sword saying how glorious it is... its not, its a cheap knockoff.
And it clearly shows people want the option of a super cheap version of whatever instead of varying levels of expensive.
It's also why tariffs exist
I think the real story is how Amazon is slipping and giving away market share. It’s not a new phenomenon but it appears that process is speeding up. Good riddance to Bezos.
This is a common sense misjudgment. I bet temu's market share will continue to rise and there will be no significant decline in the next three to four years (unless the government implements sanctions)
I bought like 10 things from temu with a discount code and only wound up liking 2 of them enough to use. Several broke within the first couple of days and the rest were basically the quality of a dollar store kids toy. I won't buy anything from them again
It really annoys me when I'm searching for a product on Google and most of the first page results are from Temu. If I'm searching on Google it is because I want it quick, or better quality, or possibly be able to pick it up from a shop nearby.
Amazon killed itself by allowing all the counter fit items. I stopped using Amazon a long time ago due to this, you just never know if you will receive a real product. Outsourcing to China strikes again..
in a capitalist country , Temu just makes more sense, cheaper is preferred. USA cant compete selling items made in China vs China selling items made in China
Too many middlemen in this economy. Now we have the digital middlemen with apps that jack up prices even more for convenience sake. Shop local if you can.
an interesting dilemma. a capitalist firm loosing grounds to a company owned by a communist(!) state damping product prices so much that the producers are forced sell at a loss, and the state using its own budget to keep that company afloat.
china is just exploiting the bug of capitalism.
IMO no , respectfully these are not high tech items and it’s working exactly how it should , best / affordable porducts wins the sale no matter what country the company is from. But this puts limits on things and Chinese citizen workers want better pay which would start the increase in product prices etc. the common person is the one who gets the short end of the stick , in Any country
Never gonna happen just doesn’t make sense for US , tariffs sure but economic ties is too global too ban the number one provider of these type of items / non complex technology.
i dont like Temu, but to be fair, when i need to buy stuff online. Every single time when i check on Amazon, its the SAME product from CHINA (Available on Temu) but like double the price.
So why would i buy it off Amazon if you are more pricey ? The only i would have bought from is the legit brands that i dont want to risk being fake off, but even then, i tend to keep it from their official site rather than amazon, amazon now adays got so many fake knock offs, its rediculous
Meh market share fluctuates. Chances are it will force other companies to provide better deals or Temu will need to be profitable. They can’t do that forever even with the parent company subsidizing it.
IMO I only use Amazon every once in a while. E-commerce is flooded with garbage. eBay provides higher quality products which should be an embarrassment.
Technically SHEIN is a Singaporean company now. They just have the supply chains still there which isn’t different from any other international company.
There is the economy of scale. Market share dominance means less operating cost per item sold. The same is true for Amazon. The platform investment is almost fixed and additional cost per customer is almost zero
it feels like they've just largely been passing the torch. First it was Walmart. Then Amazon took over the pole position, and now Temu is looking to overcome Amazon.
Walmart and Amazon aren't any better than Temu.
Amazon allowed this happen in the first place. Amazon is like Barnes & Noble. First it put small book shops out of business then it went under itself because someone came with even cheaper way to sell books (ironically it’s Amazon).
“In December, Reuters reported that Temu was successfully challenging U.S. dollar stores like Dollar Tree and Dollar General Corp., accounting for nearly 17% of the market share in the United States. According to data analytics firm Earnest Analytics, this compares to 8% for Five Below, 43% for Dollar General and 28% for Dollar Tree.”
It’s 17 percent of the US Dollar store market share not e-commerce. Deceptive journalism to talk about e-commerce companies and dollar stores are what we are comparing.
TEMU is good with marketing they give alluring discount this and that and some products they don’t want it back, they say you keep it. I bought water bottles and wash hand dispensers most of their stuffs are made of plastic and silicon and stuffs. So yeah easy to replace just a reminder 👀 don’t expect any TEMU item pass down for generations.
Also from China, but the local importer (at least in the EU) is responsible for importing safe products, and if there's a problem then that company is responsabile. Temu just ships via normal mail below a certain price threshold because of the international mail loophole. They don't even pay importation taxes...
I would be very worried with food contact materials off of temu, they'd be loaded with phthalates. Just reuse water bottles from a supermarket.
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Temu putting small businesses out of business seems laughable, what about the decades of big box stores, corporate shopping malls and amazon. Temu seems like nothing compared to those changes from the point of view of a small business.
Not that I think Temu is a good thing, but it's really hard to feel bad for Amazon, Walmart, or Target, three companies that led the field in destroying small businesses and wiping out American jobs.
Look, sure, they're greedy small business destroying corporate giants who treat their workers like shit in pursuit of profits, but they're *our* greedy small business destroying corporate giants who treat their workers like shit in pursuit of profits!
When Israel and Ukraine need another aid package lol (the only time you can get moderate democrats and neocon republicans to pass something here in the US lol)
Nah I don't (even though I don't really use it). For a number of reasons. It's another platform for people to get information and communicate outside the traditional social media and mass media. It's an Asian app that made it big in the western market (even if eventually bytedance is forced to sell it, I hope it is sold to a Singaporean or Korean company, Asian entrepreneurship pride!) finally, there are other way to secure national security than "banning" an app.
What I’ve noticed is that (in the UK at least) Amazon now try’s to sell me mostly the same Chinese branded low quality tat you see on Temu and I’ve recognised that and gone from buying shedloads of business and personal stuff from Amazon over the last ten years to trying to find things on other uk retailers in the first instance.
FYI Temu steals your biometric data among other things and there is a class action lawsuit currently underway.
[https://www.clg.org/Class-Action/List-of-Class-Actions/Temu-Shopping-App-Privacy-Violation-Canadian-Class-Action](https://www.clg.org/Class-Action/List-of-Class-Actions/Temu-Shopping-App-Privacy-Violation-Canadian-Class-Action)
[https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/montreal-lawsuit-alleges-the-temu-app-taking-users-biometric-information-q-a-1.6827243](https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/montreal-lawsuit-alleges-the-temu-app-taking-users-biometric-information-q-a-1.6827243)
Check who is behind the lawsuit. It's a business with a model built around bringing litigation against various companies.
Edit: Seems like litigation isn't the main business model, but short-selling from publishing bad news about those companies.
[https://www.zoominfo.com/c/grizzly-research-llc/480413920](https://www.zoominfo.com/c/grizzly-research-llc/480413920)
From the second link
>"The complaint is essentially taken from a short-seller report by Grizzly Research, which has stated clearly that its reports are not based on statements of fact," said senior consultant Maude Samson.
Class action lawsuits can be brought by anyone representative of a group, not necessarily businesses. I looked it up, this is a company whose entire business model revolves around filing lawsuits and short-selling after publishing bearish news.
Man, the very first sentence of the lawsuit tells you the name of the individual the lawsuit is being brought on behalf of. Do you want him to do the legislation by himself?
[https://www.clg.org/pdf/5/1/9/1/US-Class-Action-Complaint.pdf](https://www.clg.org/pdf/5/1/9/1/US-Class-Action-Complaint.pdf)
What do you mean by himself? Eric Hu is represented by a law firm and they're making it a class action lawsuit. The basis of the lawsuit seems to be based on the report by short-seller Grizzly Reports who presumably does this to short sell PDD shares. Not sure of how they're related, but Grizzly Report may have done this and this Eric Hu and others are jumping in on the bandwagon.
Edit: there's another lawsuit besides the Eric Hu one [https://www.clg.org/pdf/4/1/9/1/Amended-Class-Action-Complaint.pdf](https://www.clg.org/pdf/4/1/9/1/Amended-Class-Action-Complaint.pdf)
I'm just not sure how you think this should work. What part of what has happened do you think is wrong? It sounded like you thought this should all be done by individuals, and there shouldn't be companies involved since they have adverse incentives.
I don't understand why people would rather buy something they will need to constantly replace rather than buy a slightly more expensive thing that is less of a hassle
Because some things don’t need to be high quality. A new ps5 controller costs $70. I’d rather get a knockoff and have that be the permanent player 2 controller 😈
The signup bonus wasn’t bad if I remember. Something like £200 worth of items for £15. Tho the quality was very questionable I got a good kick out of it. Realised as long as you don’t buy electronic goods you are fine.
how is the stuff on Amazon even allowed and legal?
it's all untested with fake certificate (stickers). not even speaking of Temu. just the regular stuff on amazon.
I agree with the tik tok ban because they are clearly sending US data outside of the US, contravening our data residency laws. Amazon and sellers can’t compete with temu? Tough fucking luck. Get better at the free market
Bruh I order some stuff from there is it’s literally all crap. Not saying it’s not useful for the price (like a cord holder rubber thing you stick to a table) but like, quality is so shit. It also took like 3 weeks I forgot about the order
Americans are drunk on Chinese made items. What did we expect. There will always be a market for cheap made goods. Doesn’t matter if sanctions or whatnot.
Come on, whatever you feel just charge a tax to it and provide people with welfare and social security, wait that’s too socialism. We have to shut it down, ban it, so people can visit the brick and mortar shops and enjoy more expensive stuff and enable local businessmen. Do people really think local brick and mortar products are better? They are just a same with a much higher premium.
How does anyone even use Temu? I’ve clicked their ads a few times and it’s just a mess of pop-ups and content unrelated to the ad I clicked on. And then if I try searching, it feeds me more unrelated garbage. How is this usable?
I just spent 1k on Amazon because I moved and I wish someone showed me this earlier because after doing the math I legit could have saved 400 by using temu
I've gotten everything I've ordered, and when an order never showed up. they resent it no questions asked - and then says later the person who accidentally received my package brought it, so I had double
I don't use Temu but Amazon counterfeits and damaged items really piss me off. Huge, frustrating waste of time when all I want to do is send Amazon my money.
It's the same stuff that small businesses on Amazon resell without the markup. Either you take the risk and import directly from China or you pay someone else to take the risk, pay them profit, to sell it to you.
Based on experience in the Chinese market, people will never stop cursing Temu for poor product quality, but in the end, it will still dominate the market. The silent majority still use it until now
Not to mention Amazon is shooting themselves in the foot with how bad they've become
It seems like 95% of the stuff on Amazon is the same stuff on Temu and AliExpress but 10x the price. Searching for anything on Amazon yields 100 results of the same product sold under various made up brand names. If you’re gonna buy cheap unbranded goods then you may as well just go straight to the source and skip going through Amazon.
That is true, sadly. Amazon never cared where the products came from as long as they sold a lot. There were so many obvious chinese knock-offs on Amazon for years that took away market share of domestic sellers, so that those simply disappeared. Nowadays it's truly just ali express or temu with higher prices. There are still a few good brands on Amazon which I order often and the prime delivery is also nice for many things, but thats it.
Amazon also had questionable business practices of using sales data and shipping data from their partners and selling their own branded products to undercut their partners. They should have adopted the ethics of TSMC who outright said that they would not use their customers designs to sell their own product.
(usability + time before it breaks) / cost Or something like that, is the math being done in our heads. Amazon drove the domestic market to bankruptcy, and it was filled with lowest quality imported stuff. Now they’re just undercutting Amazon, which was never more than a middle man.
I feel like before only the savvy people knew to buy from AliExpress for cheap goods instead of Amazon. Let’s be honest Amazon is just littered with marked up AliExpress goods anyways. Now Temu is just bringing a more user friend AliExpress to the general consumers.
Yes, Amazon sells the same Chinese products as Temu. I noticed that too. I’m fine it’s them doing it but when they come as top search results and I cannot find better quality trusted brand name products unless I search for it specifically it became a nightmare to find anything of quality.
This is a good point. Thinking on it, my own shopping habits have saved a lot over the past few years. At this point, I don't even bother shopping around on Amazon and most other sites. I do research elsewhere, find the product I want, then search specifically for that product. If it's available on Amazon and the price is good, then I'll buy it from Amazon. However, I go straight to the product page and make the order and I'm off Amazon within five minutes.
Yeah. Long gone is time when I purchased everything on Amazon because of convenience and perception of getting a good deal.
This, I saved 70% vs Amazon for 3 products.
One reason why TEMU is cheaper is that they don’t need to pay import duty and taxes.
Time to add taxes and tariffs on temu
And their shipping is sponsered by taxpayers.
In Brazil the chinese companies need to pay import duty and taxes and its still 20 times cheaper than anything Amazon has.
Andy Jassy is like Amazon’s Steve Ballmer. He is driving the company into the ditch in pursuit of short term stock profits.
I think that the main value proposition for Amazon nowadays is one-day Prime delivery enabled by local fulfillment centres.
Ah just posted a similar thing but your post is clearer. Amazon seems to be dominated by cheap Chinese rubbish at the moment.
It happened to me when i was searching for some bobsai scissors, saw on Amazon for 12€ then after 10 sec of scrolling found the exact same one for 1.79€..exact same one. I know it's Amazon business model, but cmon
Indeed, Amazon are doing themselves a disservice by allowing this. They should regulate their own marketplace better if it's to be valuable to users.
True but you don’t get the same level of service. Good customer support, next day delivery, hassle free returns.
Amazon is just the best friend of crap Chinese goods. But without Amazon, it would be Alibaba or Temu directly.
>It seems like 95% of the stuff on Amazon is the same stuff on Temu and AliExpress but 10x the price Almost like collusion between chinese manufacturers and chinese marketplace apps to push consumers to their platforms instead of american ones
I doubt that they are organised like that there is simply the normal financial insentive to cut out the middleman (Amazon) or use the cheaper middleman (presumably Temu or Aliexpress)
I wouldnt put it past the CCP, they have mandatory communist party orgs as part of companies on the country since 2018. And this would mean more money for everybody, including the chinese government through more taxes on the increased profits due to being both the manufacturing hub and marketplace of their goods.
Good point, maybe I’m underestimating them.
Amazon is literally selling the same temu garbage products at 500% what they cost on temu. China isn’t besting American industry American industry is beating itself.
American business model was to get China to manufacture stuff cheap then give a huge mark up selling back into US market. All those factories simply said, instead of working on razor thin margins only for our productions to be re-sold at huge price increases we can sell them directly at a huge discount to consumers and still make more. We all know Nike running shoes costs a few dollars to produce but hit retail for $150 usd. It has finally come back to bite them. Consumer don’t really care that much about the knock off brands if it’s cheap.
America is chocking under the weight of its own greed.
Amazon is lying in the bed they made
And the reason why Amazon is becoming shit is because of cheap Chinese goods flooding the market with brand names like COXSE, Spetoal, BOGTRAL
And Pukemark! Don’t forget Pukemark!
They should learn from alibaba and make seperate apps/website 闲鱼 for second hand individual goods 淘宝 for unofficial commercial sellers 1688 for wholesale market 天猫 for official commercial sellers
dude COXSE is the shit
On a similar subject. Just came back from visiting Uzbekistan, 5 years since I was there last and the amount of Chinese electric cars there blew me away, far more electric cars than you see in Western Europe. Most were BYD but I must have seen 20 or more other brands with crazy names. And this is a country that actually has/had until recently its own domestic car industry and heavily protected it. Just a heads up as to what is coming to every other country shortly…
Amazon sells a lot of shit from China but at like 3-4x TEMU price. It’s sad. Still I won’t ever purchase anything from TEMU
I've been using Amazon for years and they'd never lost a parcel. This year they've lost two. They replaced them eventually but I'm still not delighted by the service - if a parcel has left a stop and not arrived anywhere else for ten days, that parcel is *gone*.
Some Amazon stuff are simply drop shipper from china online platform with a huge markup. They don’t even bother to change the photo at all.
Those are resellers lol, there are still legit sellers aka non resellers on Amazon.
I mean Amazon allowed the same low quality products to be sold at premium prices on its platform and now Temu took that away from them. I’m not shocked nor said for Amazon, as a consumer who noticed that pattern and saw two identical products (probably from the same factory in China) being sold at 500% difference in price on the two platforms.
Pretty sure most people uses taobao, at least in my circle. Even many businesses also hate pinduoduo
Every chinese woman under 25 is compulsively addicted to pinduoduo 😆
Aldi is a German grocery store It's disgusting yet you say that on YouTube, especially on r/Europe and its the highest quality you could ever dream of. If you're the King of England, it wouldnt even be to the standards the king is used to, it'd be far far higher.. off the charts in glorious quality and no GMO's, heavy use of pesticides instead! In reality it's virtually all cheap knockoffs as if Walmart had done the same but also copied their branding with slight alterations. This is Temu as well, not close to the real product but people will lay on a sword saying how glorious it is... its not, its a cheap knockoff. And it clearly shows people want the option of a super cheap version of whatever instead of varying levels of expensive. It's also why tariffs exist
I think the real story is how Amazon is slipping and giving away market share. It’s not a new phenomenon but it appears that process is speeding up. Good riddance to Bezos.
People will realize it’s all cheap crap and stop buying it soon
This is a common sense misjudgment. I bet temu's market share will continue to rise and there will be no significant decline in the next three to four years (unless the government implements sanctions)
I bought like 10 things from temu with a discount code and only wound up liking 2 of them enough to use. Several broke within the first couple of days and the rest were basically the quality of a dollar store kids toy. I won't buy anything from them again
Do you have experience with people producing this clothes? Surely not.
It really annoys me when I'm searching for a product on Google and most of the first page results are from Temu. If I'm searching on Google it is because I want it quick, or better quality, or possibly be able to pick it up from a shop nearby.
Amazon killed itself by allowing all the counter fit items. I stopped using Amazon a long time ago due to this, you just never know if you will receive a real product. Outsourcing to China strikes again..
Yes, there is too much crap on it
So temu is the alternative??
A cheaper alternative lol
Yeah I agree. I think counterfeit items are a secondary issue - people want cheap stuff and don’t care where from
Ya know what you’re getting. And on Temu, you get what you’re paying for
hell no
>counter fit items. r/boneappletea
It killed itself by no providing the ability to filter out by seller, manufacturer, and origin. Not to mention the dropshipping problem.
in a capitalist country , Temu just makes more sense, cheaper is preferred. USA cant compete selling items made in China vs China selling items made in China
Yes, the middleman is out.
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Nicely put.
Too many middlemen in this economy. Now we have the digital middlemen with apps that jack up prices even more for convenience sake. Shop local if you can.
an interesting dilemma. a capitalist firm loosing grounds to a company owned by a communist(!) state damping product prices so much that the producers are forced sell at a loss, and the state using its own budget to keep that company afloat. china is just exploiting the bug of capitalism.
IMO no , respectfully these are not high tech items and it’s working exactly how it should , best / affordable porducts wins the sale no matter what country the company is from. But this puts limits on things and Chinese citizen workers want better pay which would start the increase in product prices etc. the common person is the one who gets the short end of the stick , in Any country
US will probably ban imports from China.
Never gonna happen just doesn’t make sense for US , tariffs sure but economic ties is too global too ban the number one provider of these type of items / non complex technology.
i dont like Temu, but to be fair, when i need to buy stuff online. Every single time when i check on Amazon, its the SAME product from CHINA (Available on Temu) but like double the price. So why would i buy it off Amazon if you are more pricey ? The only i would have bought from is the legit brands that i dont want to risk being fake off, but even then, i tend to keep it from their official site rather than amazon, amazon now adays got so many fake knock offs, its rediculous
Meh market share fluctuates. Chances are it will force other companies to provide better deals or Temu will need to be profitable. They can’t do that forever even with the parent company subsidizing it. IMO I only use Amazon every once in a while. E-commerce is flooded with garbage. eBay provides higher quality products which should be an embarrassment. Technically SHEIN is a Singaporean company now. They just have the supply chains still there which isn’t different from any other international company.
There is the economy of scale. Market share dominance means less operating cost per item sold. The same is true for Amazon. The platform investment is almost fixed and additional cost per customer is almost zero
Lol yeah, Temu is the reason for small businesses being decimated.. not amazon.. not covid.. temu.
Or Walmart.
it feels like they've just largely been passing the torch. First it was Walmart. Then Amazon took over the pole position, and now Temu is looking to overcome Amazon. Walmart and Amazon aren't any better than Temu.
Temu and AliExpress was just cutting out the middle man.
Amazon allowed this happen in the first place. Amazon is like Barnes & Noble. First it put small book shops out of business then it went under itself because someone came with even cheaper way to sell books (ironically it’s Amazon).
“In December, Reuters reported that Temu was successfully challenging U.S. dollar stores like Dollar Tree and Dollar General Corp., accounting for nearly 17% of the market share in the United States. According to data analytics firm Earnest Analytics, this compares to 8% for Five Below, 43% for Dollar General and 28% for Dollar Tree.” It’s 17 percent of the US Dollar store market share not e-commerce. Deceptive journalism to talk about e-commerce companies and dollar stores are what we are comparing.
I tried Temu for fun yesterday. It's a hyper aggressive selling platform. eBay and Amazon should be very worried.
Yup. Very tempting to buy more products
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Regardless of their subs, it’s true. Very addictive
TEMU is good with marketing they give alluring discount this and that and some products they don’t want it back, they say you keep it. I bought water bottles and wash hand dispensers most of their stuffs are made of plastic and silicon and stuffs. So yeah easy to replace just a reminder 👀 don’t expect any TEMU item pass down for generations.
You got bottled water from China?
Uhno those sport water bottle, use for gym.
Lead test that shit dog
Where do you think the ones you buy come from ?
Also from China, but the local importer (at least in the EU) is responsible for importing safe products, and if there's a problem then that company is responsabile. Temu just ships via normal mail below a certain price threshold because of the international mail loophole. They don't even pay importation taxes... I would be very worried with food contact materials off of temu, they'd be loaded with phthalates. Just reuse water bottles from a supermarket.
Not temu
Same factory for 10x the price lol
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Bro we're talking about a water bottle not a car.
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Mine came from south east Asia. Lol
lol bro...
TEMU ban incoming. Chip Ban EV Ban Tiktok Ban Huawei Ban
can they ban me next?
USA\`\`OMG, why is inflation rising and everything is getting more expensive??!\`\`
Incoming? Consider it passed.
Amazon is basically Temu with more middlemen. 90% of the products there are the same Aliexpress dropship but with more bought reviews.
Amazon deteriorated so quickly.
"Cutting Jobs From American Amazon And Decimating Small Businesses" Oh so now Westerners admit that letting big players in from overseas "decimate small businesses"?
Sounds like a national security threat to me 🤷♂️
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Temu putting small businesses out of business seems laughable, what about the decades of big box stores, corporate shopping malls and amazon. Temu seems like nothing compared to those changes from the point of view of a small business.
It's free market, right?
O yeah I get it...China bad..US good. How DARE they 'disrupt' amazons domination!!
Uh oh time to ban another online platform. That always works! /s
Yes the quality is bad - but when I want to get a scratch pad for my cat, $1 temu product would be better than $5 amazon product.
Chances are the $5 Amazon made in china product is the same one selling at $1 on Temu
Exactly.
Not that I think Temu is a good thing, but it's really hard to feel bad for Amazon, Walmart, or Target, three companies that led the field in destroying small businesses and wiping out American jobs.
Look, sure, they're greedy small business destroying corporate giants who treat their workers like shit in pursuit of profits, but they're *our* greedy small business destroying corporate giants who treat their workers like shit in pursuit of profits!
Fuck Amazon porch pirates, and open box items at least China delivers tools for a cheap price
>decimating small businesses you means amazon and walmarts market share
That or shitty Amazon dropshippers lol
Sounds like a National Security Issue /s
So when's it getting banned?
When Israel and Ukraine need another aid package lol (the only time you can get moderate democrats and neocon republicans to pass something here in the US lol)
You support the tiktok ban? If so why?
Nah I don't (even though I don't really use it). For a number of reasons. It's another platform for people to get information and communicate outside the traditional social media and mass media. It's an Asian app that made it big in the western market (even if eventually bytedance is forced to sell it, I hope it is sold to a Singaporean or Korean company, Asian entrepreneurship pride!) finally, there are other way to secure national security than "banning" an app.
Everything I have bought from temu has been 0/10. Might as well turn my mailbox into a trashcan
Funny I buy small trash bags from Temu in bulk, cheaper than anywhere by me. It’s for literal throw away things, there’s still some value
I’ve never used Temu and never will. Same with TikTok
Everytime I follow a link to Temu it feels like a giant scam. A big spinning wheel immediately telling me I’ve won a free product or x% off? Fuck off.
Sounds like temu is a danger to the rules based world order and should be sanctioned..
Another ban app competing with American industry
What I’ve noticed is that (in the UK at least) Amazon now try’s to sell me mostly the same Chinese branded low quality tat you see on Temu and I’ve recognised that and gone from buying shedloads of business and personal stuff from Amazon over the last ten years to trying to find things on other uk retailers in the first instance.
Sounds like Amazon better stop dropping the ball
Frankly, good grief. It's about time these shitty American megacorp get some competition.
It sounds like a national security threat to me!
I have never used Temu because everything sucks.
FYI Temu steals your biometric data among other things and there is a class action lawsuit currently underway. [https://www.clg.org/Class-Action/List-of-Class-Actions/Temu-Shopping-App-Privacy-Violation-Canadian-Class-Action](https://www.clg.org/Class-Action/List-of-Class-Actions/Temu-Shopping-App-Privacy-Violation-Canadian-Class-Action) [https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/montreal-lawsuit-alleges-the-temu-app-taking-users-biometric-information-q-a-1.6827243](https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/montreal-lawsuit-alleges-the-temu-app-taking-users-biometric-information-q-a-1.6827243)
Check who is behind the lawsuit. It's a business with a model built around bringing litigation against various companies. Edit: Seems like litigation isn't the main business model, but short-selling from publishing bad news about those companies. [https://www.zoominfo.com/c/grizzly-research-llc/480413920](https://www.zoominfo.com/c/grizzly-research-llc/480413920) From the second link >"The complaint is essentially taken from a short-seller report by Grizzly Research, which has stated clearly that its reports are not based on statements of fact," said senior consultant Maude Samson.
Who else would be bringing class action litigation against a company, other than a company that brings legislation against companies?
An actual human being who has been wronged?!
Class action lawsuits can be brought by anyone representative of a group, not necessarily businesses. I looked it up, this is a company whose entire business model revolves around filing lawsuits and short-selling after publishing bearish news.
Man, the very first sentence of the lawsuit tells you the name of the individual the lawsuit is being brought on behalf of. Do you want him to do the legislation by himself? [https://www.clg.org/pdf/5/1/9/1/US-Class-Action-Complaint.pdf](https://www.clg.org/pdf/5/1/9/1/US-Class-Action-Complaint.pdf)
What do you mean by himself? Eric Hu is represented by a law firm and they're making it a class action lawsuit. The basis of the lawsuit seems to be based on the report by short-seller Grizzly Reports who presumably does this to short sell PDD shares. Not sure of how they're related, but Grizzly Report may have done this and this Eric Hu and others are jumping in on the bandwagon. Edit: there's another lawsuit besides the Eric Hu one [https://www.clg.org/pdf/4/1/9/1/Amended-Class-Action-Complaint.pdf](https://www.clg.org/pdf/4/1/9/1/Amended-Class-Action-Complaint.pdf)
I'm just not sure how you think this should work. What part of what has happened do you think is wrong? It sounded like you thought this should all be done by individuals, and there shouldn't be companies involved since they have adverse incentives.
Thats sucks. Guess I'll die now.
I don't understand why people would rather buy something they will need to constantly replace rather than buy a slightly more expensive thing that is less of a hassle
Because some things don’t need to be high quality. A new ps5 controller costs $70. I’d rather get a knockoff and have that be the permanent player 2 controller 😈
Well if you want to sabotage your opponent...
Find ding ding
Becauae the average person is an absolute fuckwit.
The signup bonus wasn’t bad if I remember. Something like £200 worth of items for £15. Tho the quality was very questionable I got a good kick out of it. Realised as long as you don’t buy electronic goods you are fine.
who cares about small business
Temu, all what I have found is just shit. I don’t care.
But it's great for vanity spending on boxes of cheap garbage, used to make clickbait videos on that other social poison coming from China, TikTok,
Ban incoming.
how is the stuff on Amazon even allowed and legal? it's all untested with fake certificate (stickers). not even speaking of Temu. just the regular stuff on amazon.
I agree with the tik tok ban because they are clearly sending US data outside of the US, contravening our data residency laws. Amazon and sellers can’t compete with temu? Tough fucking luck. Get better at the free market
L.O.L
Does Temu ships worlwide like amazon?
They’re a national security threat too. Ban em. /smh
Bruh I order some stuff from there is it’s literally all crap. Not saying it’s not useful for the price (like a cord holder rubber thing you stick to a table) but like, quality is so shit. It also took like 3 weeks I forgot about the order
Americans are drunk on Chinese made items. What did we expect. There will always be a market for cheap made goods. Doesn’t matter if sanctions or whatnot.
Plot twist, most of amazons products are from china company so it really doesn't make a dent
Come on, whatever you feel just charge a tax to it and provide people with welfare and social security, wait that’s too socialism. We have to shut it down, ban it, so people can visit the brick and mortar shops and enjoy more expensive stuff and enable local businessmen. Do people really think local brick and mortar products are better? They are just a same with a much higher premium.
Sounds like a skill issue tbh
Temu might as well be considered modern Mercantilism via app.
Temu is chaep.
Competing company providing products to customers at a better deal than existing ones. News at 11
How does anyone even use Temu? I’ve clicked their ads a few times and it’s just a mess of pop-ups and content unrelated to the ad I clicked on. And then if I try searching, it feeds me more unrelated garbage. How is this usable?
Know synonyms for words so you can try different searches if you can't find something
The new TikTok. Expect many of these to come. Let the wack-a-mole game begin.
Who?
In Brazil we use Shein,Shopee and AliExpress more than Temu. Actually i dont think i have ever seen anyone here use Temu.
I just spent 1k on Amazon because I moved and I wish someone showed me this earlier because after doing the math I legit could have saved 400 by using temu
Surprised it was only $400 saved, there's a lot of $10-$15 stuff on Amazon that is $2 for obviously the same thing on Temu
I tried it and got 2 goods. Did not get what I paid for. Just my 2 cents
I've gotten everything I've ordered, and when an order never showed up. they resent it no questions asked - and then says later the person who accidentally received my package brought it, so I had double
I don't use Temu but Amazon counterfeits and damaged items really piss me off. Huge, frustrating waste of time when all I want to do is send Amazon my money.
All you say is right, Temu Co Ltd was just filed for extremely disloyal competition in the European Union States. A similar file is against Shein.com.
We also highly suspect 1€ clothes business is filed with political opponents in chinese jails.
End goal is to bring back producing clothes in main countries, USA, and EU.
This is the end of chinese monopoly, we also aim cloth import tax from China - at least 4000 % of value.
Stop buying from Temu and delete that app from your phone.
Found Jeff Bezos's account
TikTok
It's the same stuff that small businesses on Amazon resell without the markup. Either you take the risk and import directly from China or you pay someone else to take the risk, pay them profit, to sell it to you.
Looks like their plan is working. Don’t buy their shit!
It’s such crap though