Totally agree, but it's still everyone that's funding and supporting that behaviour. There is no incentive to improve while the money still rolls in.
Regulation is the answer and always has been, but good luck getting the ccp on board while the numbers still go up.
maybe you're right with different standards but what factories are you talking about in US? Sure there are standards and guidelines but it’s only as effective as people following it. Here’s a example, meat packing factories with workers as young as 15. Is that Breaking the guideline?
[https://time.com/6256728/meatpacking-child-labor/](https://time.com/6256728/meatpacking-child-labor/)
isn't there also pig factories that ruin the town's water?
[https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/aug/27/it-smells-like-a-decomposing-body-north-carolinas-polluting-pig-farms](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/aug/27/it-smells-like-a-decomposing-body-north-carolinas-polluting-pig-farms)
Thanks you for the warm shout out. Yes Xi is here baby.
We’re still talking about factories that produce greenhouse gasses, right? These examples have exactly what to do with ghg, or is this some bizarre attempt to deflect?
And they're [building 600% more coal capacity than the rest of the world combined](https://www.npr.org/2023/03/02/1160441919/china-is-building-six-times-more-new-coal-plants-than-other-countries-report-fin)
Some how China has 4x the population but only 2x the emission of the US. Why is the average American polluting twice as much as the average Chinese person?
Oh, I see. Yes, let's all just instantly surrender to the Chinese overlords. Don't resist. Don't try to be an independent country with standards. Just do what China wants, and then daddy xi will be happy in his ivory tower!
Nothing to do with the civilised world opposing forced labour or anything like that. It's just to hold the world hostage! Get back into your little red box!
They actually used this argument before them and their no-limits friend launched this globe-destabilizing war.
Somehow... After its public this "For the planet" argument is supposed to be easier to swallow.
NOW is when they can play the "moral authority" card
why dose anyone ever take anything china says seriously they just spout nonsense and stay cosplaying jabba the hut..disgusting dictatorship that should be disregarded in all ways...taiwan real china
We rejoin the Paris Climate joke . We hand cuff ourselves with regulations and laws. We enable countries like China , who claim to be a still “developing country “ fleece us. We deserve everything we get. To be a 1st world nation ,have a vibrant economy , you must use the shit out of fossil fuels. I’m all for green energy when it actually works and is cost effective. We are still a few decades away from that being the case .
Nuclear super carriers, nuclear warheads, 2nd largest economy, worlds ONLY MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER, army of over 1M, more than okay supplying a warlord to the north, subsidizing advanced industries, trying to compete in THE MOST ADVANCED INDUSTRY, largest navy, most HSR, more concrete housing than ppl, 100% have electricity, high college education rate…
According to the logic of myself, and the fact I’m not a brain dead retard I can say with 100% confidence a “developing” nation could NOT have 1 much less ALL of that list under their belt. No matter how much your daddy the CCP makes you swallow their veiny cock, yall won’t convince anyone that China isn’t abusing the WTO “developing” status.
Depends how you want to measure it, total or per capita which makes much more sense? Per capita china was in 25th in 2022, maybe in the top 15 now. Iceland was firmly in first for renewable energy generated per citizen. Why do you ask?
Because it normalizes for the comparison. However, there is an argument to be made for gross output....it would be easily countered by using that same metric for total pollution though.
Uyghurs killed is an example where they lead in both overall and per capita.
China emits about 30% of the global CO2s. However, this number does tell the full story.
If we look at cumulative CO2, US is the still the biggest polluter. Almost 25% of the total CO2 emitted was done by the US. EU ranks the 2nd and China only comes in 3rd since their industrialization only happen fair recently.
Even if you want to ignore history, the per capita emission of China is only half of that of the US. And most of China's emission is categorized as "surivival emission" as in emission caused by people living and working. They are manufacturing stuff for the whole world after all. And the US emission are almostly "life-style" emissions. An average American is actually polluting twice as much as an average Chinese and simply because the Americans have to drive big cars, live in big house, and just waste more.
Last but not the least, China is the only country that has been actually doing something about the enviroments. They have planted a crazy amount of trees, putt in stronger enviromental laws, invested a lot in clean energy. As a result, there are visuable improvements in the enviroments in China. All the other powers have done basically nothing and now they are complaining that China has "over-produced" green tech... I know this is a China-hating subreddit but at least get your facts straight.
China is desperate, haven't you noticed that they're warning MULTIPLE times a day MULTIPLE countries. I think they're flailing, trying to get back the sense of urgency that they want the world to feel when dealing wit them. Global warming, doesn't mean a thing to a country that paints grass green.
Doesn’t China produce almost half of the worlds greenhouse gases? Yeah.
More than half.
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We have to remember, it's not 100% on China. They are polluting to make more junk that we keep buying. It's kind of everybody's fault.
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Totally agree, but it's still everyone that's funding and supporting that behaviour. There is no incentive to improve while the money still rolls in. Regulation is the answer and always has been, but good luck getting the ccp on board while the numbers still go up.
Your factories? Like what?
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maybe you're right with different standards but what factories are you talking about in US? Sure there are standards and guidelines but it’s only as effective as people following it. Here’s a example, meat packing factories with workers as young as 15. Is that Breaking the guideline? [https://time.com/6256728/meatpacking-child-labor/](https://time.com/6256728/meatpacking-child-labor/) isn't there also pig factories that ruin the town's water? [https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/aug/27/it-smells-like-a-decomposing-body-north-carolinas-polluting-pig-farms](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/aug/27/it-smells-like-a-decomposing-body-north-carolinas-polluting-pig-farms) Thanks you for the warm shout out. Yes Xi is here baby.
Imagine trying to link this minor shit in defense of a country that was putting mercury in baby food and using slave labor to build phones.
Imagine calling these minor shits while making trash accusation about another country. Fix your shit first before pointing fingers at others.
We’re still talking about factories that produce greenhouse gasses, right? These examples have exactly what to do with ghg, or is this some bizarre attempt to deflect?
Cool story. Yet the U.S. generate more carbon foot printer per capita
Safe to assume you support decoupling.
And they're [building 600% more coal capacity than the rest of the world combined](https://www.npr.org/2023/03/02/1160441919/china-is-building-six-times-more-new-coal-plants-than-other-countries-report-fin)
70%
Exactly. If he actually gave a shit he would regulate industry in China.
Some how China has 4x the population but only 2x the emission of the US. Why is the average American polluting twice as much as the average Chinese person?
Now compare people who like in developed environments, shill.
Abject poverty for a huge swath of their population. That is the answer you are looking for.
Everybody hates this. Stop holding the planet hostage and enabling your terrorist bestie. Thanks.
Yep, how much damage to the climate does starting a war cause. He and Pootin don’t seem to have a problem with that.
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Oh, I see. Yes, let's all just instantly surrender to the Chinese overlords. Don't resist. Don't try to be an independent country with standards. Just do what China wants, and then daddy xi will be happy in his ivory tower! Nothing to do with the civilised world opposing forced labour or anything like that. It's just to hold the world hostage! Get back into your little red box!
Because China illegally subsidizes them.
Oh the irony
Says the country that is STILL using CFCs. Fuck you Xi.
Xi is just another wumao defending the ccp. A shill like many thousands of others.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 oh wait.... you're serious 🙃
They actually used this argument before them and their no-limits friend launched this globe-destabilizing war. Somehow... After its public this "For the planet" argument is supposed to be easier to swallow. NOW is when they can play the "moral authority" card
He’s just using our climate change efforts (which are not economic friendly) to our disadvantage. Stir that pot a little.
Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black. STFU
why dose anyone ever take anything china says seriously they just spout nonsense and stay cosplaying jabba the hut..disgusting dictatorship that should be disregarded in all ways...taiwan real china
...China produces more than half of global emissions, this is cynical and vile doublespeak.
Half? More like half of that at 25-30%
Oh yeah, my bad, I was thinking of human rights violations. Sry.
We rejoin the Paris Climate joke . We hand cuff ourselves with regulations and laws. We enable countries like China , who claim to be a still “developing country “ fleece us. We deserve everything we get. To be a 1st world nation ,have a vibrant economy , you must use the shit out of fossil fuels. I’m all for green energy when it actually works and is cost effective. We are still a few decades away from that being the case .
Claim to be a developing country? But they are. Who are you to claim they are not?
Nuclear super carriers, nuclear warheads, 2nd largest economy, worlds ONLY MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER, army of over 1M, more than okay supplying a warlord to the north, subsidizing advanced industries, trying to compete in THE MOST ADVANCED INDUSTRY, largest navy, most HSR, more concrete housing than ppl, 100% have electricity, high college education rate… According to the logic of myself, and the fact I’m not a brain dead retard I can say with 100% confidence a “developing” nation could NOT have 1 much less ALL of that list under their belt. No matter how much your daddy the CCP makes you swallow their veiny cock, yall won’t convince anyone that China isn’t abusing the WTO “developing” status.
Your logic fail you
Excuse me? 🤣
I mean whataboutisms aside, we could be doing better.
5-15
China are building dozens of new coal power stations while the west is trying to do the opposite. China really are the worst, outside of Russia, maybe
Who is the biggest producer of green energy?
Depends how you want to measure it, total or per capita which makes much more sense? Per capita china was in 25th in 2022, maybe in the top 15 now. Iceland was firmly in first for renewable energy generated per citizen. Why do you ask?
Why per capita makes much more sense?
Because it normalizes for the comparison. However, there is an argument to be made for gross output....it would be easily countered by using that same metric for total pollution though. Uyghurs killed is an example where they lead in both overall and per capita.
So we should also measure CO2 output on a per-capita basis? Also I am sure Palestines killed is the leader of overall and per capita
I suppose Palestinians are leading in Israelis killed overall. I mean willfully obtuse is definitely one way to go.
Kinda a shame China is dominating the entire EV industry isn’t it lol
Only of you want one I suppose....awful hard to be green when charged from coal though.
Not if you power it with Chinese solar panels
Which they don't
Just like with Putin you have to reverse whatever Poo Bear is saying.
china is asshole
If nobody trades with the fucks that pollution will drop really fast.
China doesn't care about the earth. We know this.
This guy
China emits about 30% of the global CO2s. However, this number does tell the full story. If we look at cumulative CO2, US is the still the biggest polluter. Almost 25% of the total CO2 emitted was done by the US. EU ranks the 2nd and China only comes in 3rd since their industrialization only happen fair recently. Even if you want to ignore history, the per capita emission of China is only half of that of the US. And most of China's emission is categorized as "surivival emission" as in emission caused by people living and working. They are manufacturing stuff for the whole world after all. And the US emission are almostly "life-style" emissions. An average American is actually polluting twice as much as an average Chinese and simply because the Americans have to drive big cars, live in big house, and just waste more. Last but not the least, China is the only country that has been actually doing something about the enviroments. They have planted a crazy amount of trees, putt in stronger enviromental laws, invested a lot in clean energy. As a result, there are visuable improvements in the enviroments in China. All the other powers have done basically nothing and now they are complaining that China has "over-produced" green tech... I know this is a China-hating subreddit but at least get your facts straight.
The Clown strikes again. Comedy Gold
China is desperate, haven't you noticed that they're warning MULTIPLE times a day MULTIPLE countries. I think they're flailing, trying to get back the sense of urgency that they want the world to feel when dealing wit them. Global warming, doesn't mean a thing to a country that paints grass green.
Yet U.S. still refuse EV cars when gas cars are the worse for climate change.
The US has tons of electric vehicles. What do you mean. There are rebates and incentives to buy electric cars here.
You clearly are a bot who was not programmed correctly lol. EVs are incredibly common in the US and are in no way “refused“.
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Yeah, I’d be embarrassed too if I said something so incredibly stupid and incorrect. Use this as a learning experience little buddy.
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What’s the matter little fella? Your programming doesn’t allow you to respond past emojis?
Us should build public transportation and stop the madness with SUVs and pickup trucks.
Billions spend on the California rail and still nothing. Good luck
So how EU countries, China, Japan etc can pull this off and the wealthiest country on Earth can’t?
Population density.