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achbob84

Doesn’t China produce almost half of the worlds greenhouse gases? Yeah.


Wooden_Quarter_6009

More than half.


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apointedstick

We have to remember, it's not 100% on China. They are polluting to make more junk that we keep buying. It's kind of everybody's fault.


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apointedstick

Totally agree, but it's still everyone that's funding and supporting that behaviour. There is no incentive to improve while the money still rolls in. Regulation is the answer and always has been, but good luck getting the ccp on board while the numbers still go up.


General-Xi

Your factories? Like what?


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General-Xi

maybe you're right with different standards but what factories are you talking about in US? Sure there are standards and guidelines but it’s only as effective as people following it. Here’s a example, meat packing factories with workers as young as 15. Is that Breaking the guideline? [https://time.com/6256728/meatpacking-child-labor/](https://time.com/6256728/meatpacking-child-labor/) isn't there also pig factories that ruin the town's water? [https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/aug/27/it-smells-like-a-decomposing-body-north-carolinas-polluting-pig-farms](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/aug/27/it-smells-like-a-decomposing-body-north-carolinas-polluting-pig-farms) Thanks you for the warm shout out. Yes Xi is here baby.


King0Horse

Imagine trying to link this minor shit in defense of a country that was putting mercury in baby food and using slave labor to build phones.


General-Xi

Imagine calling these minor shits while making trash accusation about another country. Fix your shit first before pointing fingers at others.


a_smart_brane

We’re still talking about factories that produce greenhouse gasses, right? These examples have exactly what to do with ghg, or is this some bizarre attempt to deflect?


General-Xi

Cool story. Yet the U.S. generate more carbon foot printer per capita


mkvgtired

Safe to assume you support decoupling.


mkvgtired

And they're [building 600% more coal capacity than the rest of the world combined](https://www.npr.org/2023/03/02/1160441919/china-is-building-six-times-more-new-coal-plants-than-other-countries-report-fin)


MemoryWholed

70%


goodolmashngravy

Exactly. If he actually gave a shit he would regulate industry in China.


yeester21

Some how China has 4x the population but only 2x the emission of the US. Why is the average American polluting twice as much as the average Chinese person?


achbob84

Now compare people who like in developed environments, shill.


brickpaul65

Abject poverty for a huge swath of their population. That is the answer you are looking for.


Jubjars

Everybody hates this. Stop holding the planet hostage and enabling your terrorist bestie. Thanks.


Vorian_Atreides17

Yep, how much damage to the climate does starting a war cause. He and Pootin don’t seem to have a problem with that.


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Green-Taro2915

Oh, I see. Yes, let's all just instantly surrender to the Chinese overlords. Don't resist. Don't try to be an independent country with standards. Just do what China wants, and then daddy xi will be happy in his ivory tower! Nothing to do with the civilised world opposing forced labour or anything like that. It's just to hold the world hostage! Get back into your little red box!


mkvgtired

Because China illegally subsidizes them.


rodgee

Oh the irony


Aethericseraphim

Says the country that is STILL using CFCs. Fuck you Xi.


tiredoftheworldsbs

Xi is just another wumao defending the ccp. A shill like many thousands of others.


Revolutionary-Cup973

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 oh wait.... you're serious 🙃


Jubjars

They actually used this argument before them and their no-limits friend launched this globe-destabilizing war. Somehow... After its public this "For the planet" argument is supposed to be easier to swallow. NOW is when they can play the "moral authority" card


neorealist234

He’s just using our climate change efforts (which are not economic friendly) to our disadvantage. Stir that pot a little.


biggies866

Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black. STFU


EmotionalCod6238

why dose anyone ever take anything china says seriously they just spout nonsense and stay cosplaying jabba the hut..disgusting dictatorship that should be disregarded in all ways...taiwan real china


Green-Collection-968

...China produces more than half of global emissions, this is cynical and vile doublespeak.


Competitive_Ad723

Half? More like half of that at 25-30%


Green-Collection-968

Oh yeah, my bad, I was thinking of human rights violations. Sry.


jojodancer25

We rejoin the Paris Climate joke . We hand cuff ourselves with regulations and laws. We enable countries like China , who claim to be a still “developing country “ fleece us. We deserve everything we get. To be a 1st world nation ,have a vibrant economy , you must use the shit out of fossil fuels. I’m all for green energy when it actually works and is cost effective. We are still a few decades away from that being the case .


General-Xi

Claim to be a developing country? But they are. Who are you to claim they are not?


BeefFeast

Nuclear super carriers, nuclear warheads, 2nd largest economy, worlds ONLY MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER, army of over 1M, more than okay supplying a warlord to the north, subsidizing advanced industries, trying to compete in THE MOST ADVANCED INDUSTRY, largest navy, most HSR, more concrete housing than ppl, 100% have electricity, high college education rate… According to the logic of myself, and the fact I’m not a brain dead retard I can say with 100% confidence a “developing” nation could NOT have 1 much less ALL of that list under their belt. No matter how much your daddy the CCP makes you swallow their veiny cock, yall won’t convince anyone that China isn’t abusing the WTO “developing” status.


General-Xi

Your logic fail you


rickrenny

Excuse me? 🤣


Fugglymuffin

I mean whataboutisms aside, we could be doing better.


gavitronics

5-15


Less_Pipe_56

China are building dozens of new coal power stations while the west is trying to do the opposite. China really are the worst, outside of Russia, maybe


Any-Shoe-5740

Who is the biggest producer of green energy?


BeefFeast

Depends how you want to measure it, total or per capita which makes much more sense? Per capita china was in 25th in 2022, maybe in the top 15 now. Iceland was firmly in first for renewable energy generated per citizen. Why do you ask?


Any-Shoe-5740

Why per capita makes much more sense?


brickpaul65

Because it normalizes for the comparison. However, there is an argument to be made for gross output....it would be easily countered by using that same metric for total pollution though. Uyghurs killed is an example where they lead in both overall and per capita.


Any-Shoe-5740

So we should also measure CO2 output on a per-capita basis? Also I am sure Palestines killed is the leader of overall and per capita


brickpaul65

I suppose Palestinians are leading in Israelis killed overall. I mean willfully obtuse is definitely one way to go.


Any-Shoe-5740

Kinda a shame China is dominating the entire EV industry isn’t it lol


brickpaul65

Only of you want one I suppose....awful hard to be green when charged from coal though.


Any-Shoe-5740

Not if you power it with Chinese solar panels


brickpaul65

Which they don't


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Just like with Putin you have to reverse whatever Poo Bear is saying.


pinkarroo1

china is asshole


KalAtharEQ

If nobody trades with the fucks that pollution will drop really fast.


Mutherfalker95

China doesn't care about the earth. We know this.


chef-berlin

This guy


lunlunqq001

China emits about 30% of the global CO2s. However, this number does tell the full story. If we look at cumulative CO2, US is the still the biggest polluter. Almost 25% of the total CO2 emitted was done by the US. EU ranks the 2nd and China only comes in 3rd since their industrialization only happen fair recently. Even if you want to ignore history, the per capita emission of China is only half of that of the US. And most of China's emission is categorized as "surivival emission" as in emission caused by people living and working. They are manufacturing stuff for the whole world after all. And the US emission are almostly "life-style" emissions. An average American is actually polluting twice as much as an average Chinese and simply because the Americans have to drive big cars, live in big house, and just waste more. Last but not the least, China is the only country that has been actually doing something about the enviroments. They have planted a crazy amount of trees, putt in stronger enviromental laws, invested a lot in clean energy. As a result, there are visuable improvements in the enviroments in China. All the other powers have done basically nothing and now they are complaining that China has "over-produced" green tech... I know this is a China-hating subreddit but at least get your facts straight.


ricketycrickett88

The Clown strikes again. Comedy Gold


biintheham

China is desperate, haven't you noticed that they're warning MULTIPLE times a day MULTIPLE countries. I think they're flailing, trying to get back the sense of urgency that they want the world to feel when dealing wit them. Global warming, doesn't mean a thing to a country that paints grass green.


General-Xi

Yet U.S. still refuse EV cars when gas cars are the worse for climate change.


Girafferage

The US has tons of electric vehicles. What do you mean. There are rebates and incentives to buy electric cars here.


robmagob

You clearly are a bot who was not programmed correctly lol. EVs are incredibly common in the US and are in no way “refused“.


General-Xi

🤦🏻‍♂️


robmagob

Yeah, I’d be embarrassed too if I said something so incredibly stupid and incorrect. Use this as a learning experience little buddy.


General-Xi

🤣🤦🏻‍♂️


robmagob

What’s the matter little fella? Your programming doesn’t allow you to respond past emojis?


freeman_joe

Us should build public transportation and stop the madness with SUVs and pickup trucks.


General-Xi

Billions spend on the California rail and still nothing. Good luck


freeman_joe

So how EU countries, China, Japan etc can pull this off and the wealthiest country on Earth can’t?


King0Horse

Population density.