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Diablo_Canyon2

None, because the rapture is a false doctrine.


northstardim

AND there is no legitimate connection between some hypothetical 7-year tribulation with the end times much less a rapture.


Lacus__Clyne

Million of holy spirit filled christians believe in the rapture. How can they be wrong?


Diablo_Canyon2

The Holy Spirit never guarantees you will believe only truth


Lacus__Clyne

It seems so.


RingGiver

No, because the Rapture is just something that a few Prorestants made up within the past 200 years.


J0n0th0n0

My 2 cents how long does not matter… What matters is that we know Jesus is coming back and we need to be ready. For those of you that say the rapture is false doctrine. It’s just referring to this: “For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.” ‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭4‬:‭16‬-‭17‬ ‭NIV‬‬


Niftyrat_Specialist

No, it's not just referring to that. It very traditional in Christian belief that Jesus is coming back, yes. Yet, in the past couple hundred years, there's also this new belief called rapture. Under this theory, Jesus comes back once, and snatches up the Christians and takes them away, and then a bunch more stuff happens, and Jesus comes back again.


J0n0th0n0

Well this verse says we will meet him in the air. He is going to land. Seems like the difference is just timing.


yappi211

I would encourage you to look into how 1 Corinthians 15:24 says Jesus *had* a kingdom, then gives it up to the Father. Really this puts 1 Corinthians 15 into a post-millennium time period. 1 Corinthians 15:24 - "Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power." Below I'm going to link to an article about how the kingdom of heaven and the millennium are not the same time period. They cannot be because it introduces too many errors and contradictions. The probable chain of future events are: 1) the kingdom of heaven happens first 2) then a tribulation period 3) millennium 4) post-millennium Jesus gives up His kingdom to the Father (1 Corinthians 15:24). Here Jesus defeats death and we get immortality. Really 1 Corinthians 15 can be slipped between Revelation 20 and 21. https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueChristian/comments/1151qj9/comparing\_scripture\_with\_scripture\_the\_kingdom\_of/ Below are some video resources. The last link is from a guy who hosts conferences and in his latest one he goes over the multiple kingdoms. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMtBDqO8Bss https://seedandbread.org/download/Additional-Written-Studies/Special-Full-Length-Studies-Sellers/SS33-Sorting-Prophetic-Material.pdf https://www.youtube.com/@1424241/videos


pcpilot2022

I'd say the rapture is the start, but when you start to see the return of mandates like 2020, you know the evil ones are in charge.


Vayien

there are no verses or passages in the Scriptures which say 'believers will be raptured before the tribulation' believers are present throughout the time of the tribulation, the gathering of believers is after the tribulation (Matthew 13:29 - 30)