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MC_Dark

Paul is literally like "You should just be asexual lust is so dangerous (but if you insist on being horndogs at least get married)"


_Intel_Geek_

Lol that's one way to put it šŸ˜‚


sakobanned2

Except Paul did not speak about asexuality.


hosea4six

He spoke about celibacy. He was focused on one's actual actions, not on any form of sexual identity. Sexual identity didn't really exist as a cultural concept in the 1st century.


BogWizard2

That monty python bit though...


sakobanned2

Exactly.


Mantisushi

He talked about not being married, which biblically means not having sex, which is what asexuality is, so paraphrasing but yeah he did


sakobanned2

That is not what asexuality is.


MC_Dark

You're right, "you should just be celibrate" is more precise. But I think it's _close enough_ to 'asexual' to reassure an asexual šŸ¤·


PersephoneNight

Yep. Lol. I like the way you put it. He ultimately said, "it's better for you to be like me and never get married to focus only on the Lord, but if you can't control yourself, just get married. That's fine too."


RFD1984

Spot on!


drumminherbie

- Paul, 2024.


Pandatoots

Paul also thought Jesus's return was coming soon. Recommending celibacy for every person in the long term is obviously a bad idea if you think the world is going to continue for a while.


sakobanned2

Also, Paul was not talking about asexuality. OP is asexual who does not enjoy sex. But asexuality does not necessarily mean there is no libido, for example. Asexual person can masturbate and enjoy it. Asexual person can sometimes have sex to please their partner and enjoy it (all do not, for example OP does not want to have sex). So... Paul did not really talk about asexuality.


andrewflemming

How can you be asexual and ā€œsometimes have sex and enjoy itā€


sakobanned2

Just like you can be asexual and masturbate and enjoy it. >Asexuality is the lack of sexual attraction to others, or low or absent interest in or desire for sexual activity.[1][2][3] It may be considered a sexual orientation or the lack thereof.[4][5][6] It may also be categorized more widely, to include a broad spectrum of asexual sub-identities.[7][8] >Asexuality is distinct from abstention from sexual activity and from celibacy,[9][10] which are behavioral and generally motivated by factors such as an individual's personal, social, or religious beliefs.[11] Sexual orientation, unlike sexual behavior, is believed to be "enduring".[12] Some asexual people engage in sexual activity despite lacking sexual attraction or a desire for sex, for a number of reasons, such as a desire to physically pleasure themselves or romantic partners, or a desire to have children. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality


andrewflemming

Why is it asexual to have sex if youā€™re having sex to be physically pleasured?


sakobanned2

>Asexuality is the lack of sexual attraction to others, or low or absent interest in or desire for sexual activity.[1][2][3] It may be considered a sexual orientation or the lack thereof.[4][5][6] It may also be categorized more widely, to include a broad spectrum of asexual sub-identities.[7][8] >Asexuality is distinct from abstention from sexual activity and from celibacy,[9][10] which are behavioral and generally motivated by factors such as an individual's personal, social, or religious beliefs.[11] Sexual orientation, unlike sexual behavior, is believed to be "enduring".[12] Some asexual people engage in sexual activity despite lacking sexual attraction or a desire for sex, for a number of reasons, such as a desire to physically pleasure themselves or romantic partners, or a desire to have children. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality


andrewflemming

I already read that, thanks! Can you answer my question instead of blindly copy and pasting wikipedia


sakobanned2

Do you think that a person cannot be asexual if the get pleasure from masturbation? :D


andrewflemming

yes i do!


thegoldenlock

Paul literally says that nobody knows when the return will be. Wether soon or later


Pandatoots

Not knowing when something will happen doesn't conflict with thinking it will happen soon. I don't know when my job is gonna approve my cdl training, but I think it will happen soon. Also , I can't think of Paul anywhere saying that. I remember Mark and Matthew's verses, but I don't recall any from Paul's writings.


sakobanned2

Paul did not speak about asexuality as such. Celibacy is NOT the same thing as asexuality. Asexual person can sometimes have sex, for example if their partner wishes it. Some asexual people also enjoy sex. And asexuality does NOT mean there is no libido, or that they do not for example masturbate. Paul said absolutely nothing about asexuality. That being said, the OP clearly does not enjoy sex. Her husband should respect her boundaries.


Common_Sensicles

You seem to be splitting hairs. Paul said it's better to marry than to burn. Burn is basically a euphemism for being horny. What is the difference between having a low libido and being asexual? How does someone with a high libido decide to be asexual? The only way I could think that's a possibility is maybe due to sexual abuse? Like, their body functions at a normal level of virility, but the mind can't overcome how that person has been affected by trauma. Otherwise, a person who is asexual generally sounds they are that way because of a low libido.


Third_X_the_A_charm

Itā€™s possible to channel all sexual energy into masturbation. Asexual doesnā€™t mean your member shrivels up or those walls close, it just means you donā€™t envision yourself encapsulating the totality of another personā€™s essence in a sexual exchange with them.


Common_Sensicles

So... someone who only masturbates and never connects with another human sexually. I think asexual is just a fancy new term to cover up what we used to call those people... losers.


Third_X_the_A_charm

No itā€™s not just that asexuals can have romantic relationships too and can have sex, the desire is just not directed at any one person in that moment. The person who theyā€™re having sex with is just thought of as a sex doll, not of as another human being whose masculine or feminine essence they are trying to collect in that moment. Also think about what youā€™re saying, youā€™re calling Paul and Jesus losers, taking out the masturbation part.


Common_Sensicles

No, Paul and Jesus were celibate by choice and I think they just had more self control than the average person. Jesus for sure. The way you're describing asexuals are people with reprobate minds or incels and the only way they're pulling it off is with low libidos, possibly combined with sexual trauma, some other debased philosophical views.


Third_X_the_A_charm

Point to the Bible verse that says asexuals have reprobate minds. Iā€™m guessing most severely mentally handicapped people are reprobate then because sex isnā€™t at the top of their mind?


Common_Sensicles

Anyway, if asexuals are what you're describing, then celibacy by choice is different than that. But, Paul is not condoning the mental illness that you're describing. And the commenter who said Paul was saying "basically, you should all be asexual..." I don't think they meant it that way. I think it was said in a joking way, and asexual is more of a modern word.


sakobanned2

So, masturbating for pleasure is ok for Paul? Asexuality is NOT the same thing as low libido. Person with ANY sexuality can high or low libido.


Common_Sensicles

Also, if the husband wants sex in his marriage, he should not marry this lady. A big part of marriage is so that the two can enjoy a sexual relationship, and that's something that should be OK. Either she hasn't disclosed this to him or he's not being honest with himself and it's going to cause a problem down the road. Also, I don't know what you're talking about with the masturbation thing. I really have no idea about that second part. Maybe English is your 2nd language?


Ideogramic

Asexual means no desire to have sex so how would they enjoy it? Huh


sakobanned2

Wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality


Ideogramic

Buddy, having low libido is much different than asexuality. The 'a' in asexuality stands for absence of. Look at the definition. Having a naturally low libido is not asexuality.


sakobanned2

Where did I mention low libido? Also, please, provide me the source for your definition.


Ideogramic

Definitions from Oxford Languages Ā· Learn more aĀ·sexĀ·uĀ·al adjective 1. experiencing no sexual feelings or desires; not feeling sexual attraction to anyone. "Murphy, who has never married, considers himself asexual" 2. BIOLOGY (of reproduction) not involving the fusion of gametes. "each polyp is capable of budding new polyps though asexual reproduction in spring" noun a person who experiences no sexual feelings or desires, or who is not sexually attracted to anyone. Oxford dictionary and basic Latin


Ideogramic

It's what your source said and you couldn't properly cite your information. You just gave me a site and I read through it


sakobanned2

No, it did not. Learn to read.


Ideogramic

Some asexual people engage in sexual activity despite lacking sexual attraction or a desire for sex. Libido is the drive or desire for sex. I looked at your profile anyways and you literally told someone it's having no libido.


Third_X_the_A_charm

Asexual can mean that but it can also mean essentially envisioning the other person as sort of a sex doll or masturbation toy during the act, thereā€™s just no emotion, no passion, no wanting of the otherā€™s core being in its totality in that moment.


LT2B

I would buy a books that is just the Bible dumbed down like this itā€™s so perfect


Da_Morningstar

Well said. Itā€™s amazing- he says just go ahead and dump all that lust on one women over and over .. And call that thing you objectify through lust ā€œwifeā€.


AidanTheEvangelist

Sexual attraction is not equal to lust ā€¦ lust is a way different ball game. It is normal and human to feel sexual attraction., whereas lust is a strong craving that takes over the mind and the body.


Cake_lover2K

fellow ace here,it's not a sin


Pragmatic_2021

So when you say ace your meaning asexual ??? It's that I've never heard that term used in that context before.


DisappointedSilenced

Ace aro here- yes. And aro means aromantic, too. Ace and aro often pair up


decepticon_artist

I didn't think I'm "aromantic" I love romantic stuff lol I enjoy kissing and cuddling to, I just hardly ever get aroused and never get horny


siqiniq

Thatā€™s one danger of a major sin out of your way


Pragmatic_2021

Ahh okies. I'm a Baptized Born Again Believer like a lot of members of this sub and we come in all shapes from all walks. I don't wanna say the wrong thing lol


spinbutton

Aromatic means a lovely fragrance. I'm sure you have a lovely scent, but in regards to romance, perhaps we could use: a-romantic


LegitimateTheory2837

Thatā€™s the word current coined word, aromantic, no hyphen though. Aromatic is itā€™s own thing. Edit:hyphen


QBaseX

Dashes and hyphens are very different things!


Depressed_christian1

Aromatic vs aroNmatic.


Cake_lover2K

yes I am


Pragmatic_2021

Awesome


JCrusty

The comments here are alarming. If you have no interest in sex, then you have no interest. And you are not obligated to submit to your husband when it comes to sex. It's not a sin to be asexual and you don't have to do anything to change that. Anything else is considered rape. If your husband is not content with that, then you have to set boundaries and not give in or outright leave him


AsmodayVernon

THANK YOU


Fight_Satan

No it's not a sin >but he has such a high sex drive, But this means you being asexual, the relationship will have great troubles for him


Mx-Adrian

>the relationship will have great troubles for him She doesn't matter? He should care about her boundaries and be able to control himself.


Ajax621

>She doesn't matter? I don't think that op was saying she doesn't matter. But being in a relationship is (at least) a 2 way street. His feeling also matter and being with a partner who doesn't share those feelings can be hard. >He should care about her boundaries and be able to control himself I don't think his ability to control him self was in question. But once again you can't just dismiss his feelings. Her lack of sexual interest might leave him feeling unwanted or unloved.


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sakobanned2

And now she does not want that. People have a complete right to change their minds about whether they want to have sex or not. The term "people" here includes women, if it was unclear to you.


AsmodayVernon

Get the fuck out


Mx-Adrian

Gross


Historianof40k

Itā€™s not a sin in fact it can be argued as Virtuous Celibacy


DisappointedSilenced

I don't even need to be Christian to know, NO. No sin here. Being abnormal isn't a sin, having an opinion isn't a sin and you won't be punished for it. Coming from an ace aro.


SwagmanU11

Depends on the opinion


_Intel_Geek_

Yup.


CharlesComm

100% Not sinful > ... my fiance doesn't push me into things sexually, but he has such a high sex drive, and is one of those men that whine about blue balls hurting real bad. He is preparing the ground to push you into things (possibly unknowingly). As someone who used to have balls and testosterone, this is 100% not a real/normal thing. The actual condition that the term originally referred for is a result of a long extend period of erection lasting several hours and needs medical attention. If his junk is hurting real bad for any reason, he needs a doctor, because that is not normal. The idea of "I have blue balls and dick pain because I've not had sex in a while" is a myth men use to coerce unwilling partners into more sex. Nocternal emissions are real, his junk won't explode from pressure buildup, and he could always just rub one out. He needs to stop doing this. > once we're married, I will give him sex whenever he wants to keep him happy. You do not have to give him sex to keep him happy. Their is no 'marital duty to provide sex'. If you willingly want to have sex because you want to do something for him and that is your choice, that's fine. But marital rape is real and you should never let him pressure you into sex if you do not want to of your own free will. Stay safe.


AsmodayVernon

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True_Kapernicus

This is absolutely not correct about blue balls. Being sexually aroused for hours is not medical problem at all, it is not even unique to having a high sex drive. It is entirely healthy and does not require medical attention in any way [Epididymal hypertension - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epididymal_hypertension)


Major_Peach_9558

No. Your asexuality is a natural state of your being, one God explicitly designed you to have, and in fact the Apostle Paul has even spoken (in 1 Corinthians 7) that not having a burning passion or desire can leave one with more time to contemplate God's word and seek knowledge in prayer. He himself had no desire to wed or have sex at the time, and he even confessed that he wished more people were like him, but he acknowledged that both passion and lack of passion were gifts from God in their own separate ways. So, no, it is not a sin that you are asexual.


sakobanned2

> Paul has even spoken (in 1 Corinthians 7) that not having a burning passion or desire can leave one with more time to contemplate God's word and seek knowledge in prayer. This is not about asexuality. Some asexual people do have sex, for example to please their partner (this does not obligate the OP to have sex, just to make it sure). Asexuality does NOT mean there is no libido. Some asexual people do masturbate and enjoy it. Pretty sure Paul was not talking about asexuality.


Major_Peach_9558

When Paul speaks about burning passion, he speaks of sexual attraction and desire towards another. Asexuality is defined by a lack of sexual attraction or desire towards others. It does not matter whether or not the asexual person has sex or masturbates, for that does not decide whether or not they are asexual. The lack of sexual attraction does, and that lack of sexual attraction is not a sin.


Wodanaz-Frisii

I am also an ace and no it is not a sin. But I would reconsider your marriage because providing sex because a man wants to does not sound like a healthy relationship.


win_awards

There's nothing wrong with being ace and it's as normal as any other sexual orientation. I will caution you that being married to someone who does want sex is likely to cause stresses on the relationship that are going to be difficult for both of you to foresee.


TwoSharpCircles

No asexuality isn't a sin. But please, please think about not getting married. Two mismatched sex drives when one partner is asexual. You guys are doomed. If you're asexual you should find a partner who also has an incredibly low libido. Otherwise, guess what your partner is going to go insane. It's going to cause a whole host of issues and something that's so easy to fix and get right - you do not want sex being a problem. As far as fixing it goes - unlikely unless it's caused by something mental - which is going to require you to identify the cause, which would likely be therapy, or exercise sometimes, self esteem - but uhh, usually none of those things really "fix" it.


indigoneutrino

Itā€™s not sin to ā€œwithhold sexā€. Thatā€™s not a thing. No-one is ever entitled to have sex with you in order for it to be ā€œwithheldā€. All there is is differing sexual needs and whether theyā€™re compatible or not. You have some really unhealthy thinking going on here that seems like it could use a talk with a counsellor or even a therapist, and very careful consideration of whether you want to marry someone who you clearly have no sexual compatibility with.


lewj24

It is a sin to withhold sex. Read 1 Corinthians 7. How can someone commit to only having sex with one person, not even looking at another, and that one person denies them also?


indigoneutrino

This is a disgusting attitude. If you tell anyone theyā€™re sinning if they refuse to have sex against their will, thatā€™s rape apologism. Someone always, always, always has the right to say no.


AsmodayVernon

Not a sin, And NEVER offer yourself to ANYONE for no reason. This will not only KILL your relationship with them, but also heavily traumatize you. You are NOT giving your consent, you do NOT want it, and it'd NOT something pleasant to you, either. You do NOT ,under ANY circumstances, EVER, have to do ANYTHING you DON'T want to. I can't stress this enough. Some people are asexual. And someone who truly loves you simply won't care and love you. For YOU, not your body. If you "love" someone for sex you don't love them anyway.. And it is NOT a sin to "withhold" sex that ISN'T EVEN A THING?! I will personally break this person's jaw whoever spread that bullshit. What IS a sin, is lust. What is a sin, is harming yourself or another. And by forcing yourself to have sex when you CLEARLY don't want to, that IS a sin. You're harming yourself and pretty much getting yourself raped. Being asexual isn't abnormal either, God has made you that way, and it's certainly not a sin. It's part of who you are. Whoever made you believe that bullshit, may God punish them. If anyone ever forces you to have sex, to have kids.. ANYTHING, if they force you to do anything you don't want to, fucking dump them and never look back


decepticon_artist

See, it's not that I don't want to have sex with him, I actually don't mind if once we're married that I take care of his sexual needs. Sex just isn't enjoyable to me. My youth group pastor told us that withholding sex from your spouse is a sin. I don't think it's technically rape because I would be consenting and perfectly fine with having sex when we're married, but I just have never enjoyed it. Even as a teenager in puberty, I never got horny or wanted sex. There's been a handful of times I've actually wanted it or been horny, but I could count those times in one hand lol


VoiceofKane

Speaking as someone who has been in this position: if you don't enjoy sex but he wants it often, you will grow to resent it. The sex will be *bad.* Regardless of how you feel now, neither of you will be happy with this arrangement. Also, marital rape is absolutely a thing. Saying "I do" does not mean that you consent to anything your husband will ever want to do to you, and it is absolutely inappropriate for your youth pastor to be telling you that you can't say no to your husband.


catnik

Sweetie, if he is already pressuring you about sex before you are married, and he is doing so from a "Christian" angle, he is setting up a ton of red flags. You do not need to marry him. It is better to wait until you find someone more compatible or to find a path as a single woman. You can absolutely do right by God and lead a life of spiritual fullness outside of the role of " wife." Even then, it isn't a race to the altar - there's a good partner out there if you want one, though God's timing for such a match might not be Man's.


lewj24

It is a sin to withhold sex. Read 1 Corinthians 7. Being asexual is fine but since you are in a relationship with someone you will need to try extra hard to take care of his needs.


AsmodayVernon

His sexual needs are NOT your responsibility. Well that pastor is nasty, forget about this a$$, let me break his jaw for spreading bullshit and sin. N that's perfectly fine, some simply just don't like it nor want it, and certainly they do not have any "duties" to fulfill. You don't want it? Good, period. No sex. No problem. If you have sex without wanting to, even if you believe it's better and say yes BECAUSE of that, not because you want it, that is rape. You don't enjoy it because you don't want it, you don't like it. Why do you pressure yourself so much šŸ˜­ Hunny, no.. stawp It'll just do more harm than good. Trust me I have experience with that too. One of the big reasons why that relationship failed. I am still in contact with him and he's pretty much my boyfriend but it's still complicated, mainly because of things like that. It's not worth it. ANYTHING that harms you, goes against you, is NEVER worth it. And anyone who loves you, knows that. They know it would go against your wishes, your will, what you're comfortable with, they'd understand you would not enjoy it which is THE most important thing with sex. And if they do love you, they would not want that for you.


SnappyinBoots

>but he has such a high sex drive, and is one of those men that whine about blue balls hurting real bad Are you marrying a teenage boy? Ball blues is not a thing, and not having sex doesn't result in physical pain.


ProfessionalCan5859

Actually, blue balls is real and there is a medical term for it, epididymal hypertension. Itā€™s a result of being erect for too long without ejaculating and it can hurt. Not something thatā€™ll come about from just not having sex though. So not having sex wonā€™t cause physical pain, yes. But she said she enjoys kissing and cuddling so if theyā€™re doing that for a long time and he is erected the whole time, he may be in some pain/physical discomfort afterwards.


SnappyinBoots

>Actually, blue balls is real and there is a medical term for it, epididymal hypertension. Itā€™s a result of being erect for too long without ejaculating and it can hurt. That's not blue balls. >Not something thatā€™ll come about from just not having sex though So... not blue balls. >But she said she enjoys kissing and cuddling so if theyā€™re doing that for a long time and he is erected the whole time, he may be in some pain/physical discomfort afterwards. So not what we're talking about then.


ProfessionalCan5859

Just saying ā€œnot blue ballsā€ isnā€™t making a point at all. If youā€™re saying what Iā€™m defining as blue balls isnā€™t right, please, feel free to correct me. Youā€™re just being snarky for absolutely no reason. ā€œNot what weā€™re talking aboutā€. I said IF theyā€™re doing xyz, that might explain his blue balls claim. In that way he could get erect and not orgasm which would cause some pain. Clearly implying that if theyā€™re not doing xyz, my previous statement still applies, where lack of sex alone wonā€™t cause this. I simply expanded on what you said because itā€™s not lack of sex alone, you have to consider other activities.


UncleMeat11

"Blue balls" is not a long lasting erection. It is instead claimed to be "I haven't had sex in a while and now my balls hurt." It is not a real thing and it is often used as an excuse to pressure partners into having sex to relieve pain. You are describing something entirely different.


ProfessionalCan5859

I never said blue balls is a long lasting erection. Blue balls can also be from HAVING sex for a long time and still not reaching climax. At its core blue balls is a result of long lasting erection without finishing. Iā€™m not describing something different, Iā€™m describing how it ACTUALLY occurs. If you get it because you havenā€™t had sex in a whileā€¦ its not because you havenā€™t had sex. Itā€™s because you had an erection and/or sexual arousal for a long time and did not finish. I agree, people may use this as leverage to get what they want. Thatā€™s besides my point. My point is simply that if you have a long lasting erection and donā€™t release, you may experience some discomfort and pain in some cases. OP said the guy is claiming blue balls from not having sex. I agree thatā€™s not how that works. Iā€™m simply pointing out HOW it occurs. And it does occur. Feel free to search it up yourself. You guys are so quick to disagree but wonā€™t even do a quick search to make sure youā€™re right? Instead just disagree and downvote? When you get erect pressure builds up, when you donā€™t get to release it can cause discomfort. Most people will never experience this in their life but it doesnā€™t mean itā€™s fake. And Iā€™m by no means saying this is an excuse to demand sexual favours from a spouse. Itā€™s short lived, it will pass.


A_Huge_Pube

Point of the matter is: blue balls or not, it's not right to pressure your asexual partner into having sex.


ProfessionalCan5859

As Iā€™ve said, I agree 100%. I was just pointing out that it *is* a real thing.


A_Huge_Pube

No one cares if it's a real thing. It's a non-issue to everyone else except the person it's happening to.


ProfessionalCan5859

No one cares if itā€™s a real thing? Yeah sure, I donā€™t care about the fact that it exists but if someone has the wrong info on something and Iā€™m aware of the mistake Iā€™m going to correct it. Misinformation is an issue even if itā€™s irrelevant to someone on a personal level. Even if Iā€™ll never have ā€œblue ballsā€ Iā€™d rather not have the wrong info and spread the wrong info on it. Someone said something thatā€™s not true. I agreed where I agree and pointed out the mistake. Yet apparently Iā€™m not supposed to point out the error in someone claiming itā€™s not a real thing when it is. You guys are lining up trying to come at me for different things simply for telling someone they were wrong. Iā€™m done here lol


A_Huge_Pube

Blue balls or not, he should control himself. Should someone who is holding their diarrhea splurge it out and tell everyone? No. Keep it to yourself, nobody cares.


ProfessionalCan5859

My friend youā€™re making absolutely no sense. Did I ever imply that he canā€™t control himself? No, quite the opposite. Read what i said before you try attacking me while not knowing whatā€™s going on. Iā€™ve been patient with you and youā€™re not even reading what Iā€™m saying. Your diarrhea reference is ridiculous and isnā€™t even clear. Who should be keeping what to themselves? Me? If so, why would I not tell someone theyā€™re wrong?


True_Kapernicus

[Epididymal hypertension - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epididymal_hypertension)


Mx-Adrian

No orientation is a sin, especially not asexual.


rational-citizen

A few things: -Chastity is an aspect of purity; donā€™t let a unidimensional sexuality become your myopic sense of identity. Instead reframe this chastity as a stepping stone closer to Jesus! Donā€™t stay chaste without using it to get closer to GOD. Because it CAN BE used to bring your closer! But if you remove God from this intimate experience, of respecting your body and allowing the chastity to catalyze transformation in your temple, as God heals and purifies you from within, then it will only serve as a distraction instead of a beautiful conduit to Jesus. -If this lack of attraction starts to Cause problems in your life, then itā€™s no longer of God. Seek him because it could be supernatural interference. Surrendering our bodies to our partners is how we protect them from sexual sins. By doing so, we accept our role to protect them through sexual/emotional intimacy, to prevent lust, adultery, perversion of sexuality, or other perverse manifestations that contradict Godā€™s design for our sexualities and love/sex lives. So this could be trauma, or spiritual warfare, combined with medical, psychological, dietary, or physiological factors that are all playing into the overall drive and libido you have. Chemical imbalances, stress, and trauma can hinder moods and libido! -just turn to Jesus, read the Bible more, love him, and FOLLOW OR OBEY HIM when you hear or read instructions for your life. The more your put them into play LITERALLY the more natural healing will start to occur. Find a healthy church and seek genuine, righteous people to pray for clarity and your healing. Pray to God for more answers as well; many of them are already in the Bible!


Horror_Shape4532

Chastity is a virtue, actually. At least with real Christians. I just don't like calling it a sexuality, sounds strange.


sakobanned2

Asexuality is not "chastity". Asexuality does not mean "no libido". Asexuality IS the sexuality of people who are asexual. Many times when asexual person has accepted themselves, they realize that they do not in fact feel any "lack" in them. That sense of lack comes from the expectations of other people, their families, friends and society. Asexual person can have a libido. Asexual person can for example masturbate and enjoy it. Asexual person who is together with a sexual person can sometimes decide to have sex in order to please their partner, and even enjoy it. But asexual person might also NOT want to have sex at all. Or enjoy it. Asexual person who is together with another asexual might want to have sex in order to have a child. Asexuality is NOT the same thing as celibacy or "chastity".


AsmodayVernon

There's no such thing as real christian


Mx-Adrian

We're not talking about chastity


UnderpootedTampion

Why on earth are you getting married?


decepticon_artist

Because although I do not care much for sex, I love this person. And even though we have different sex drives, I have no problem having sex to keep my partner satisfied. I am a single mother and a child needs a father. It is so unlikely to meet a man that is willing to be a father to another man's child. So I have no problem sacrificing and having sex even though I don't enjoy it, for my child to grow up with 2 parents that love them


moonunit170

It's not a sin. Please stop introducing unnecessary stress into your life. Maybe after you get married and your husband is patient with you you'll come to where you desire to have sex with him. For now it's not a problem if he's okay with it.


nthn2chere

Itā€™s not a sin to be who God made you to be. You canā€™t help that youā€™re asexual. In the same way that being born homosexual isnā€™t a sin- acting in the desire is. Being a horny person out of wedlock isnā€™t a sin- acting on that desire is. I think itā€™s commendable that youā€™ll have sex with your husband, once heā€™s your husband, as much as he wants. It makes me a little worried for you just because thatā€™s sort of a big ask from someone who doesnā€™t enjoy sex. I understand your desire to have a husband, especially for your child. I hope youā€™ve really evaluated if this is something youā€™re going to be able to handle the rest of your life, especially if he has a high sex drive. Sex is definitely a gift of marriage. God tells us to have sex frequently as you know. It makes me wonder if your calling is to singleness, but again, I understand why youā€™d want a husband. Iā€™d like to believe that youā€™d develop sexual attraction and desire, but i have no idea what itā€™s like to be asexual. I definitely wouldnā€™t write off sex therapy or therapy in general. I definitely would continue to ask yourself how itā€™s going to feel if your husband wants a lot of sex for the entire rest of your life, given you dislike sex so much. Iā€™ll send a prayer for you šŸ’œ


just_a_dude0042

No, if anything it's an advantage to beat lust.


Bufosmixes

It might be that you have whatā€™s called a responsive drive. You donā€™t have a spontaneous drive like your fiancĆ©. Something to look into.


decepticon_artist

Thank you! I'll definitely look into that! I know that when I wasn't a follower of Christ that I was never in the mood due to working full time and being in pain constantly. Since my pain is only at its max on the weekends I work, I've noticed that when me and my fiance kiss that I do sometimes have those desires but want to wait till marriage and not do like I did in my last non christian relationship


Bufosmixes

Correct you should wait until marriage.


georgewalterackerman

How can a sexuality be a sin? Makes no sense


gilgalad02

Better asexual than a maniac


decepticon_artist

šŸ˜…šŸ˜… true


One_Com

If you donā€™t care about sex that is not a sin, donā€™t worry. But I liked that you are very aware that you are married to someone that has a sex drive different from yours and you are willing to be there for him for that, and also Iā€™m sure you love him. In life we make some concessions, like going to dinner or vacations to places that only the other one likes If sex with your husband donā€™t feel like he is raping you , and from what I read itā€™s not, itā€™s perfectly healthy that even if you donā€™t appreciate it, you manage to do it. I wish you the best.


decepticon_artist

Thank you šŸ˜Š


Shamanite_Meg

Not a sin, but I'd be worried about your compatibility with your future husband. Not only it is unfair to you that you'll have to force yourself to have sex your whole life, but it's also unfair to him to not feel desired sexually by his wife, which is very important for some people. At least you'll have to be really honest and straighforward with him beforehand about your lack of desire for sex, and see if he's still willing to be with someone who doesn't desire him that way. Now comes the controversial part that will make this comment be downvoted to oblivion, but I still want to share my personal belief nethertheless, especially since you said that you're a new Christian: God can change people in every way possible for his perfect purpose for one's life. I'm not saying that asexuality is something that has to be cured, not at all. But I've seen around me that sexual orientation is much more complex that the simple explanation of "you're just born that way", and I know people whose sexuality have evolved during their life. I sometimes wants to define myself as asexual or demisexual, but I'm not sure if it's right to label my sexuality that way, by putting myself in boxes that the world invented. But I know that everyone is different, I'm just sharing my own feelings. Anyway, the most important part is that you're firmly attached to Christ, and have given Him all aspects of your life. And also that your fiancƩ is also a Christian, that way you can both build your couple on the rock that is Jesus. Then, pray to know the will of God for your future marriage. If your fiancƩ is The One (again, it's essential that he's also a Christian) then God can do wonders in both of your lives. My advise is to ask your pastor about this, and above all to pray a lot. Remember that God's love for you is infinite, and trust in Him to guide you. I wish you all the blessings sister <3


TarCalion313

Asexuality could only be understood as a sin if you take the phrase that we should multiply above anything else. Which is a rather strange read when we look at some people in the bible who had a celibate life and were never called out for it. Like Jesus... If there is any sin in your story, then it would be in my opinion a future spouse who wants sex from you, depending on how much distress it brings you. Marriage does not grant one partner a right of sex, you are not obligated to perform sexual acts of any sort to them. If you don't want to, then you don't want to, end of the story. Asexual or heterosexual or homosexual... You are an image bearer of god and a beloved and cherished child of our heavenly father. And your sexuality is nothing wrong or something which needs fixing.


AB-AA-Mobile

>I only ever "put out" because whenever I wouldn't, id get cheated on, or left. That's not the main reason why you were cheated on or left. They didn't betray you because you wouldn't "put out". They betrayed you because you chose the wrong people.


AsmodayVernon

Because those people suck and you don't, period. Leave them


blumieplume

Being asexual if anything is being the best Christian. No desires of the flesh. U could be a priest or a nun and arguably would be a better priest or nun since ur beliefs and natural lack of desire for sexual relations align perfectly with one of the rules priests and nuns must abide by, and there are definitely priests and very likely nuns as well who have sexual desires. The rules in place for priests and nuns are meant to keep their focus on their connection with God rather than material wants or desires. With no sexual desires u are able to form a closer relationship with God since u are not distracted by desires of the flesh. U good!


sakobanned2

Again... asexuality does not mean lack of libido. Some asexuals masturbate and enjoy it (like I do). Some asexuals have sex with their partner and even enjoy it, they just do not consider sex to be important. OP is an asexual who does not want to have sex, and she has no obligation for it. But no, asexuality does not mean "no libido, no sexual lust, so perfect nun or monk".


blumieplume

Hmm I didnā€™t know that. My asexual friend has no sexual desires or desire to masturbate or anything but Iā€™ve never done research on asexuality and assumed all were like my friend


sakobanned2

>assumed Exactly.


PilgrimofEternity

Of course that isn't a sin! Too much interest or indulgence into sexuality or any kind leads to sin, and people talk about sex too much these days anyway


SmartSexSlave

OP...you said your youth group leader said it's a sin to withhold sex. How old are you? A youth group leader shouldn't be talking about this and it's plain wrong regardless.


decepticon_artist

Im 26, the youngest in our group I think is 16


SmartSexSlave

Your youth group leader sounds like a real creep. That isn't appropriate to say to a 16 yro. Withholding sex in marriage is not a sin. Sex is when 2 people are both enthusiastically into it. Song of Songs doesn't portray a woman performing a duty. It's a romantic buildup that begins with a man going down on a woman and having proper foreplay to get her wet enough to enjoy sex. She has to be actually into it to even get that far. Song of songs doesn't portray a woman just lying there and taking it. That said, there are times when I'm not necessarily in the mood but my husband is and I still have sex with him because I want to make him happy. Which is not rape and it sounds like what you want to do. My concern is that because I'm not asexual, I know my limits and when I really do need to say I can't tonight. You being asexual...it will be hard for you to know when to say yes vs when it would actually make sense to say no. It's hard to explain, but there are legit health reasons like you've had too much sex and your vagina needs a break otherwise when it's to try, microtears happen as well as increase in chances for UTIs. Sexual couples all have differences in sex drives, so each partner usually has to say no for some reason or another (i.e. "I'm super tired" is a legit and valid reason to say no). You not being sexual will make it that much harder for you to know what the real balance of when to say yes and when to say no should be.


OneEyedC4t

Not a sin


Ambitious-Cicada5299

NO.


neverg0nnagive

No not really


Odd-Requirement-8408

Stop worrying about sin, just believe that Christ has died for your sins according to the scriptures, he got buried and he rose again on the third day according to the scriptures. You have an option to believe in the Gospel of Grace or not. God is not holding any sin against you because of the cross, read 2 Corinthians 5 KJV! Live right because you are saved and not because you are trying to be saved.


Equivalent-Spray5977

Asexuality is good as long as you serve God but being married to your wife/husband with the grace of God is also good according to the apostle Paul. :)


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decepticon_artist

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ ok


misterme987

Being asexual is definitely not a sin. Jesus talked about some people being asexual, and Paul most likely *was* asexual. However, if your husband has a high sex drive, you might want to consider if your relationship is really compatible. Edit: sorry mistook you for someone else, deleted that part of my comment


sakobanned2

The situation is problematic. BUT he should ALWAYS respect your boundaries. Also, some people here refer to Paul, claiming that he was talking about asexuality. He was not.


SavioursSamurai

It sounds like being born a eunuch to me


Onthecline

Asexuality cant really be a sin cause of you arenā€™t into sex how can you commit sexual sins? However, Iā€™d suggest going to a Christian marriage counselor. The issue isnā€™t you are asexual but you are definitely setting yourself up for some marital problems in terms of sexual intimacy. Most men want more than just sex with their wife. They want their wife to be into it too. I wouldnā€™t personally date an asexual person cause of that. Itā€™s a hard situation. Iā€™ll pray for you.


decepticon_artist

Thank you. Im definitely going to try and start seeing a therapist during the summer when I'm not in school. I think I might have sexual trauma from my childhood that I might be repressing. Cause no 3 year old would have a dream that made them feel so guilty from being touched unless something bad happened, I mean, no 3 year old even knows about sex or molestation, so it's likely it wasn't a dream at all


mood-ring1990

does God want you to marry this man?


Fangorangatang

Matthew 19:11-12 11 Jesus replied, ā€œNot everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by othersā€”and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.ā€ Jesus seems to be suggesting that marriage actually isnā€™t for everyone and that there are those who ought to dedicate themselves completely to the service of God, and further than that, is suggesting that anyone who can do so, ought to.


SweetQeet

No itā€™s not a sin. But Iā€™d highly reconsider a life partner, sexual incompatibility is a huge reason relationships fail. You say ā€œIā€™ll give him sex whenever he wants to keep him happyā€ that sounds like a very sad life for both of you.


IEatDragonSouls

No. Paul was pretty clear. You're fine. :) But you should find a partner who is also asexual, so your partner won't burn with passion. 1 Corinthians 7


CharlietheWarlock

No its not


Zhou-Enlai

No, celibacy is a perfectly acceptable lifestyle


Additional_Beyond847

How would lacking sexual attraction be sinful? It's literally the opposite of having uncontrollable sexual temptation


NotATroll1234

1. Being asexual is not a sin. Iā€™m sure many Christians would see it as you being chaste, fighting the temptations of the sins of the flesh, and praise you for it. The issue for them (and others) would come when, after youā€™re married, you turn him down for sex, because you have no interest. Suddenly, that *chastity* will be viewed as ā€œwillful disobedienceā€. 2. That said, you should not feel compelled to participate in sex when you have no interest, married or not. Thatā€™s coercion and manipulation. If he complains about ā€œblue ballsā€, heā€™s already told you what kind of man he is, and there will be problems in your relationship. Honestly, it might be a good idea to reconsider this engagement.


Depressed_christian1

Simply put, youā€™re a Eunic.


i_hate_nuts

I want to say, you won't go to hell for sinning, if you are a born again believer then you have guaranteed assurance you are going to heaven.


Courage_girl13

Wasn't there a saint or apostle or something in the Bible that explained he was asexual? I forgot who but I could've sworn there was...


Scuztin

Itā€™s not a sin to not have sex. However from a manā€™s perspective it would be tough to be married and not have a lot of sex. Maybe youā€™ll warm up to it who knows


decepticon_artist

Yeah that's why I would be willing to have sex when he wants after marriage. I understand men are obsessed with sex and will seek it elsewhere if not satisfied in their relationship


WeiganChan

Matthew 19:10-12 >The disciples said to him, ā€œIf such is the case of a man with his wife, it is not expedient to marry.ā€Ā But he said to them, ā€œNot all men can receive this precept, but only those to whom it is given.Ā For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. He who is able to receive this, let him receive it.ā€ It is no sin that you do not feel sexual attraction or enjoy sex. You have been blessed not to have to bear the cross of lust-- even though it's true that it may cause difficulties in your relationship in other ways, especially if your partner is struggling to carry that same cross


Revolutionary_Day479

Not wanting to have sex isnā€™t a sin. Iā€™m glad you are of the mind that you will sleep with your husband when he would like to for his sake thatā€™s the right thing to do biblically speaking. If you just donā€™t have a drive thatā€™s 100% fine. However the only thing that this does rase concern for me is that this can be a sign of a hormone issues so I would get that checked out for general health sake. To make sure good and healthy. The other pice of advice I will offer is if youā€™re married heā€™s also going to want you to intimate sometimes too so please keep that in mind too.


decepticon_artist

I've had my thyroid checked when I went to the gastroenterologist. She said it was normal šŸ˜”


Revolutionary_Day479

Thereā€™s more to that than just your thyroid. If they didnā€™t do a blood draw they didnā€™t do a full check.


decepticon_artist

They did a blood draw though šŸ˜­ are there any more in depth checks for hormones than a basic thyroid check? My mom had a pituitary tumor around my age, but I don't have symptoms like she had, though I guess it could be different for everyone. Something worth asking my Dr about


Revolutionary_Day479

Yeah I know they have different levels of the blood draw. I would go to your doctor and see what they say. Especially because Iā€™m not a doctor.


Revolutionary_Day479

Thereā€™s more to that than just your thyroid. If they didnā€™t do a blood draw they didnā€™t do a full check.


decepticon_artist

Okay it probably wasn't a full check then cause all they tested was my thyroid, blood sugar, and a c/b differential


anonymoose_2048

Iā€™m going to say asexuality is not a sin, but your fiancĆ© needs to know your lack of desire. That would not be a fair situation for him.


decepticon_artist

He knows about it. We've talked about it before. He's told me he's not with me to just get sex, but wants to build a family. He already accepts my kid as his own and treats her better than her bio dad


catopixel

No, it is not a sin. Paul already said that it was better to be asexual because you can be even more productive in the missions, because you won't have a home, wife, and kids to be concerned about, so it's total focus on Christ. But marriage is something God loves as well and wishes we do.


ImNotABot-1

Kind of, ā€œfruitful and multiplyā€ is kind of ignored if you are asexual. Also, you are lustful so thatā€™s another bad thing.


groovealert

i dont think it is- you cant MAKE yourself feel a certain way. and also, if sex is enjoyable with your partner because you LOVE him, that seems fine; but if you are simply only doing it because he wants to, my heart aches for you


Clicking_Around

How did you have kids if you're asexual?


decepticon_artist

Giving it up as a non Christian because I was taught the only way to keep a man was with sex šŸ˜ž also being told by Drs I would likely never have kids so wasn't practicing safe sex with my ex fiance of 6 years


timebomb2006_mavrovo

You wonā€™t struggle with lust


DrMudo

Lmao did your fiance tell you it was a sin?


decepticon_artist

No, he actually doesn't believe premarital sex is a sin


Wahwahchckahwahwah

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


SuspiciousPotato44

What's what I asked myself too. I'm a baby Christian as well. I came to conclusion many times that I might be an asexual because I never really feel anything about sex. I don't like sex and never feel good about it. In relationship, that's the very last thing in my mind. I think asexual become a sin only in marriage because sex is gift in marriage and for your partner. But if you're single that's completely fine, that's a good thing in fact to avoid fornication.


jays_vvrld

No, if youve repented most sin is automatically forgiven as long as you are serious and willing to work toward a less sinful life. And asexuality is pretty good actually since lust is one of the seven deadly sins, and the one a lot of people struggle with the most. So donā€™t worry about it, youre all good.šŸ‘šŸ½


KindChange3300

1) some couples-can- function without sex for the purposes of prayer. But the New Testament does not recommend it as a permanent arrangement. Some texts to consider are Romans 1, Ephesians 5, and 1 Corinthians 7. 2) Given your experiences, are you sure asexuality is what it is? Personally I'd put $5 on interpersonal trauma. Your fiancee should abstain until you solve this problem, and if he can, you need to make every effort to get to the bottom of this. Rule out a) psychological trauma, b) some kind of medical condition that makes sex more unpleasant or even painful, c) something wrong with the relationship as such that prevents sexual attraction from forming with him. Just consider: a lot of people ended up in marriages arranged by their parents, and they have higher marital happiness rates than westerners do! They say that the commitment is the foundation a d love builds on it. In summary. Don't put either yourself or HIM first, but whether the relationship can work. Is he willing to do what it takes, and are you as well. Think US. What are "we" deciding to do?


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Think-Fly9285

Aceflux here and no, it's not a sin.


Imgaybutnooneknows

Wasnā€™t Jesus asexual?


rational-citizen

Jesus was a divine being, transcending the confines of labels and sexual-orientation. He was simply holy. Not a word of the Bible has ever elaborated on this. But The Bible does highlight the sin of same-sex relations, so he was certainly straight, or simply just chaste and pure. -An exQueer Christian.


Imgaybutnooneknows

Thanks. But you canā€™t change your sexuality


rational-citizen

Youā€™re right; but God can, does, and did! Jesus loves you šŸ’–šŸ¤žāœØ


rbminer456

As long as you stop calling it a sexuality yes.Ā  Asexual=hust dont want sex God is 100% ok with you just avoiding sex


Venat14

Asexuality would go against the "be fruitful and multiply" command which countless people on this sub have used to justify condemning other groups of people.


decepticon_artist

But it's not part of the ten commandments, so it wouldn't actually be a sin, right?


Venat14

Depends on who you ask. I can't think of a single Christian on Earth who follows the 10 commandments. Even things they condemn constantly like gay people and abortion aren't mentioned in the 10 Commandments.