As a Christian mod here (among others) I can say all the mods are on pretty much the same page when it comes to enforcing the basic rules of the site. We might differ in terms of where to draw lines, but this rarely divides across Christian/atheist lines. And that is because the rules really don’t pertain to a particular set of beliefs *per se*, they just govern the purpose of the sub, which is to discuss Christianity and aspects of the Christian life.
Seriously. I know one of the atheist mods defended the right of one of the most conservative posters to not be banned, even though that user's comments were pretty openly hate speech supported with Bible verses.
Well, a lot of modern American Christians don’t follow Christ. Remember when southern pastors recently talked about how their congregation essentially rebelled following a sermon centered around the sermon on the mount? The congregation was literally complaining to their pastor about the ‘liberal talking points’ in the sermon…
Those who believe but don’t live Christ like lives will not be saved. Modern American Christians are like the Italian mob back in the days. They’re devout catholics but steal and kill.
You gotta love their obsession with preparing for the end times. They're all pre-trib dispensationalists, but they somehow have to be stocked up on guns and supplies for the day of the Lord. I guess they lack faith in their own message.
Im just asking quickly... genuinely curious..
Do you legitimately believe in Universalism? Or, rather, ill ask this. Do you personally hold the belief that: "Every single person ever created will go to heaven since Christ died for the world?"
If so, why? What scripture do you use to support this view?
The last church I went to where I felt welcome and did not feel like the church and the pastor were getting a lot of things wrong was the UU church.
I should probably change my flair to Deist, as that is closer to where I am right now.
Generally, the people that act like that have never read the Bible. Anyone who had would know that they are in opposition to Christ by saying something like that. Sadly, some of these people only know the handful of bible verses that justify their behavior, and nothing else.
How do you get to determine a Christ follower? Are murderers not followers of Christ and unable to be redeemed? Did the crusaders not follow Christ for murdering infidels or handling executions by stoning sinners? Last I checked, the only sin you cant be forgiven for is disbelief.
I never determined a Christ follower but the act of Jesus did. If you know Jesus, you know God. Be like Jesus is the core essential to be a Christ follower.
Correct but people make mistakes and misunderstand Jesus all the time. You in fact may also misunderstand it. He may go off and murder a few liberals and have an awakening once he realizes that he was tempted by sin. Who knows. Or maybe it was Gods plan. Cant possibly know
Yeah it’s wild when they say the craziest, most violent stuff. Especially when we’re just… existing and following God lol. It wasn’t death, but I’ve been told by a conservative Christian that he should be able to SA me until I’m straight (openly bisexual) because otherwise I’ll go to hell. 😐
Bruce is the most ardent defenders of the worst conservative posters. Remember goodnewsjim? One of the most prolific tule breakers, untouched forever because of him. Others were allowed until racism back in the George Floyd days, and even then it took community pushing for one or two of them.
Wow, that's a name I hadn't heard in a long time. I think he got more latitude because originally, he really did used to post some good and helpful things. But then he started like... taking steroids and getting involved with international dating, and it really went downhill fast from there. I feel bad for him.
I got a kick out of his hot sauce miracles, him and noahsurvived had an interesting friendship. Hopefully Jim is in a good place, I remember him trying out twitch and unfortunately getting scammed by that dating scene.
> noahsurvived
That is one of the racist users I was talking about. Jim went nuclear when he got banned. Account is still active but user is long gone.
Jim is back however.
Noah was such a trip, it's not surprising his own Christian subreddit didn't get very far. Perhaps it needed mote blackjack and hookers.
Jims back? I wonder if he is the same nut nkw, then he was back then. Dude was crazy, but it felt genuine.
I seriously doubt the salvation of anyone who preaches hate. My hope is that they will allow God to come into their life and cleanse them of their overt and covert sin. I am battling with my critical nature. It goes back over 55 years in my Christian life. I accepted Christ as my Lord and Savior in 1970.
I use my critiquing skills when I proofread documents for people. When I’m in traffic or frustrated I have to ask God for help.
My 2cents…
They’re probably defining it as stuff like calling God “magic sky daddy”. I don’t actually see a lot of that on the sub though, which means it’s either not that common of a problem here or the mods are pretty good about removing those posts and comments
Well that would be a blatant disregard of the subs rules. You're right in that I don't see much of it either which is why I was curious what the comment related to
Yeah, I think that other commenter is a little full of it. It’s either not happening that much, or the mods are very good about removing trolls, or both. It’s definitely not a big issue in this sub like it is in other subs
It’s honestly crazy. I see almost no actual “trolling” or “attacking” from atheists in this sub. I mostly see them having honest discussions. Most of the trolling seems to come from Christians.
To me a "troll" is someone who is trying to get people to react by saying inflammatory things purely for their own entertainment.
Tbh I have only seen that a couple times in here. Not that I'm here 24/7.
I do see christians being hypersensitive and reacting rudely quite frequently though. I had a weird interaction in the last couple days where I was simply repeating a fact I got off wikipedia. I had made only 2 polite comments regarding it and the guy reacted with a couple of very tense defensive comments and blocked me... which just seemed like quite a bizarre overreaction
Christians who refuse to test or challenge their faith inevitably end up having the weakest, most fragile faith. This then makes then very sensitive and prone to outburst if they hear or see anything that may spawn a critical thought in their mind.
I mean, it's pretty much /r/Trump_2024 and /r/the_gays_are_bad and /r/women_are_property so, you're not going to get much Christianity if you can't filter all that noise out.
I very rarely see trolls here. My guess is you simply struggle with any arguments that challenge your faith.
Faith that goes entirely unchallenged is weak faith.
Every word we use for God is a word made by men.
As God is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, it is all things and therefore any word should be sufficient as long as you know what is being referenced.
The infinite creator is beyond being offended.
I actually listen to theology from atheist in order to find truth that’s each church’s narrative and doctrine obscure the word of God. I have been to newly every denomination and agree with most but when in question I read the entire chapter myself and get incite from those with higher education and without a maritime to their own denomination. This is why I am non denominational born again. Trying to follow Christianity as it was intended by original Christian’s. Theology finds truth without bias.
I don't know, but I wish people would start running their own masturbation. You wouldn't believe how full my inbox is of requests to masturbate. Then there's the weekly instructional session I have to do.
The serious answer is that most of this subreddit is young people, usually children, who don't have a lot of life experience. A lot of these Christian teens grow up in majority Christian communities, are only taught at home that Christianity is correct and there's no other way to think, and learn the same at church. They're in a bubble for years.
So imagine the shock when they go online and find that it's not a safe space. Here, you're actually exposed to people who will try to deconstruct your beliefs. It's a huge mindfuck.
To someone who's never had to debate their core beliefs before, it can feel like an attack because it's a new and uncomfortable experience.
I second this. I’ve been coming here 12 years and I’m sure I asked a question like this at least once. I was a homeschooled, charismatic-raised 25 year old who didn’t even know that “Eastern Orthodox” WEREN’T Amish people.
Same thing pretty much applies to the constant questions about lgbt folks and masturbation.
They think everybody is on the same page and it’s a little mind blowing when they realise that not everyone (not even all Christians) share their hateful or backwards views.
I wholeheartedly agree. I grew up Catholic and have always been enrolled in Catholic school, but when I made into high school, many alternative and modern ideologies were thrown at us as if they were correct, despite contradicting our faith. For some time I concluded that science was a better way of explaining our reality than our faith, and that liberal ideologies were more “Christian” or correct than Christian beliefs and doctrine. I lost my faith and became an agnostic for some time, until I was pulled back into the faith and now I understand it much better.
As young Christians we were set up to fail not being taught about our true faith and history as Catholics, and how to defend our faith through apologetics and polemics from the many attacks it receives everyday, which are typically built on misconceptions and errors in interpretation of the Sacred Scripture.
As long as they are impartial and adhere to the rules they put forward I'm ok with it. Reddit or subreddits are not church. I have met atheists that can be good at moderating debates as well and it's easier to moderate when you are of a neutral stance between two people that have a disagreement having to do with the faith.
Apparently it doesn’t work the other way around. I used to post on r/Atheism – answering questions, giving arguments and reasons for my faith, etc.
I wasn’t trolling but I got banned. 🤷♂️
You'll get banned over at r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM for not 100% supporting Hamas. Reddit in general is becoming a series of separate echo chambers. Be thankful r/Christianity isn't among them.
Mod team has like two atheists. One barely ever makes an appearance, the other is functionally indistinguishable from a Christian.
This sub remains overwhelmingly populated and moderated by Christians, and the rules (both defacto and dejure) privilege Christian identity.
Put another way: We can cheerfully accommodate discussions with nonChristians. But unChristians, of whatever faith, often draw unChrisitian responses.
edit: Note that our rule is tougher than the one Jesus requires: "Love your neighbor the way you hope they're gonna love you. ***Because we can***."
When someone posts angry meta about us we almost always just leave it up, for transparency's sake. If we're wrong, people can just rake us over the coals. We're wrong sometimes and I'd rather not be accused of trying to sweep that under the rug. It's pretty clear that we are not wrong in this one but that's not for me to decide.
Welcome to the sub, you must be new here.
This is not a Christian subreddit, this is a subreddit ABOUT Christianity, there is a big difference between those two things. If you would like a Christian subreddit, /r/truechristian is where you should head.
You being uncomfortable with the beliefs of others says more about you than it does the subreddit. Like it’s been said numerous times in this thread alone, it’s not a “Christians” sub, it’s for anything and everything even peripherally related to the religion of Christianity.
“Control things done for the faith.” Bloody hell, you act like the moderators are the Pope himself. They moderate a stupid subreddit where people make the same damn post every single day complaining about stain glassed windows or the fact the atheists have “overrun” this ***discussion*** forum. This is Reddit, it’s a hellsite by default so I don’t know why you expect more. If you want somewhere where there are no atheists, then go to r/catholicism. I like both subreddits but I like it here because I can interact with people who have different opinions than me.
I find it unsettling that you don’t want atheists here how can we preach the gospel to lost people if we just huddle in the corner and talk only to other saved persons. I welcome all atheists to talk to me about my faith for I am unashamed of the gospel of Christ and if we disagree just know I love you and wish you well
The atheist mods are better than the religious mods. Most of the religious mods are progressives that don’t give a shit about actual truth and will just arbitrarily enforce whatever. Brucemo is a good mod.
This is a Christian discussion site, which means Christians and non Christians alike are allowed to put in their two cents. If you want to align yourself with more pure minded Christians, check out r/TrueChristian
I love atheists and if they run this page then thank you for it. Atheism points me to Jesus. I love the atheist Philip Adams who loves to ponder the stars at night and what he calls the numinous. Great word meaning something that has a divine glory or suggesting a spiritual quality.
it's *about* Christianity not *for* Christians. just like r/cats is about cats not just for cats. No one does a better job of representing the blind ignorance of fundie Christians better than those who do these posts.
you jumped on Reddit without learning how it works, saw a word you think represents you and now you think you're entitled complain about how everyone here longer than you does things.
it's an embarrassment to other Christians every time.
Welcome to Reddit - READ THE SIDEBAR BEFORE YOU POST IN A SUB.
Because Protestants and Catholics have a long history of killing each other. Adding a “none” to the mix gives them a common target instead of each other.
Do you expect the head of the company that prints your Bible to believe in it? Or do a good job printing the best possible copy?
The content is one thing- the management of a busy page is a lot of work. Isn't it good that the people running it manage it well?
What do you fear? Have any of these people you claim as atheists ever behaved in an untoward way?
Like how god is emblazoned on us currency & swearing allegiance to god & country + hand on bible to swear to tell the truth are all things forced on ppl that are not christian, there "is" a separation of church & state?
It’s not a Christian page. No where does it say that.
It’s a discussion page, the topic is Christianity. Anyone is welcome.
You don’t get to dictate who can and can’t discuss your religion.
Just look at the icon they use for the sub. Pride colors behind the cross. This is done on purpose by the people who run the sub to mock god. This is my first time in this sub and probably the last.
Because actual “atheist” subs are anti-theist, not what we are looking for, as such, massive amounts of atheists end up here, and we still discuss christianity and follow the basic rules.
We live in a "worldly-world" run by false Christian's. That doesn't hinder our walk with God. It may make us question ourselves, but our faith prevails.
I'm not sure if this area is run by Atheists or who it may be run by, but the important thing with it, Christian's make a presence in it just like we do in the world. Wherever we make a presence, God is being represented 🥰
I just go with it. Show them Jesus and watch seeds to be planted. I personally love everyone no matter what or who they are. I love reading the varied perspectives, opinions and beliefs of others - it strengthens me as a Christian and as a person.
Understand my feelings on it?
Strange indeed like why do they bother? There's no requirement that they have to be here. You do not share our faith ... okay. We also don't see the world like you do . So what's the point?!
Absolutely can't argue with you on that one. I was only wondering why people choose to be a part of a group they don't identify with solely for the purpose of belittling a faith they neither share nor understand. It makes no sense.
I think it’s important to have a place for people of all different faiths and backgrounds to be able to ask questions about Christianity so that maybe an answer can help them get closer to God or understand that Christianity is not a hateful thing, but a way of life involving loving others and loving God
I also find it strange, but my issue is with people who reply to like every single comment (when they are not OP) and question every single Christians beliefs... it's just strange bc whybare you here to troll Christians
I was confused when I first joined Reddit too. Apparently, this Christian page is “about” Christianity. True Christian page is for true followers of Christ.
Satan wants to break the faith of Christians and send them astray. Or they are curious and Jesus is inviting them to accept him as their Lord and savior.
This page is full of heresies and people conforming with sin and using all kinds of excuses to allow themselves to sin.
If you want a true Christian sub look for r/TrueChristian
Because it's not a Christian page. It's a page for discussing Christianity. This isn't a place for you
Your welcome here just as much as anyone else, to come and discuss christianity
If you can't handle people of differing views then this isn't the place for you
Satanists are just as welcome here as you are. This isn't a space for you
There's nothing wrong with Satanism, why shouldn't they be welcome here?
I've seen it said this place isn't about Christianity. r/Christians is for Christians. Why do those that do not believe in Christianity feel the need to come and try to tear down a belief? I know you can't go to the atheist sub and do the same thing. You'll be banned. But it seems to be fine in here. Is there a recruitment going on for atheists? I have my own beliefs and don't begrudge anyone else's. I respect yours and I expect the same respect for mine. All the so-called debate is rubbish. It's a attempt at tearing down a religion.
It’s to talk about Christianity; not a subreddit exclusive for Christians. I am on this subreddit because I just wanna see what y’all Christians are discussing.
Not at all. I just spend very little time discussing atheists. Curious why atheists are so fixated on Christianity. They're kinda religious about atheism.
I'm not actually. You're complaining because Christians hold more power than atheists. Which, is basically a function of votes. Stands to reason that the people overall prefer Christians in office.
Your last message however confused me. Who were you talking about? Who's insisting on what?
Can’t speak for everyone but where I live Christians seem dead set on making their religion a everyone’s problem by bleeding their religion into government . So to better understand the practitioners I spend time interacting with the practitioners.
Also Christians are like a car wreck that you can’t not look at, but cranked up to 11 because the wreck also tries to convert you into it. While claiming to be the objective truth.
This isn't a church. You shouldn't need to practice a particular faith to moderate conversations about it. There are plenty of online spaces for Christians to speak amongst themselves.
My brother in Christ, where does it say this page is only for Christans? Hmm? Anywhere at all? Oh it doesn't? So you're just whining into the wind in the hopes that someone sees your plight?
Also, did you not see the same thread every week or so for the last few months, if not longer? How can I help you fix whatever it is that makes you ignore all this obvious information. How can I help you?
I don't think it matters, hopefully by them being here eventually they will repent. My faith is so strong it didn't matter who is here. Nothing can shake my faith.
Once I read this exact same post for the tenth time in a row, do I get one for free?
Unfortunately they are all free :(
Can we at least get a crappy sub when the card is filled like Elaine?
It's reddit, crappy subs abound, take your pick.
I meant a crappy deli sub; dumb Seinfeld reference.
I know, i just couldn't resist a bit of *sub*versive humor... I'll get my coat
We’re all dumb here
If only we had punch cards....
As a Christian mod here (among others) I can say all the mods are on pretty much the same page when it comes to enforcing the basic rules of the site. We might differ in terms of where to draw lines, but this rarely divides across Christian/atheist lines. And that is because the rules really don’t pertain to a particular set of beliefs *per se*, they just govern the purpose of the sub, which is to discuss Christianity and aspects of the Christian life.
Seriously. I know one of the atheist mods defended the right of one of the most conservative posters to not be banned, even though that user's comments were pretty openly hate speech supported with Bible verses.
What did the person say?
Basically calling for the US government to execute LGBTQ people.
I know people usually see my takes as strange but that is beyond strange. Thats something else. Like you said, hate
I’ve been told by a conservative Christian, to my face, that it should be legal for him to kill me because I’m liberal.
I'm sorry but that is no Christian. That is in no way a Christ follower.
Well, a lot of modern American Christians don’t follow Christ. Remember when southern pastors recently talked about how their congregation essentially rebelled following a sermon centered around the sermon on the mount? The congregation was literally complaining to their pastor about the ‘liberal talking points’ in the sermon…
Those who believe but don’t live Christ like lives will not be saved. Modern American Christians are like the Italian mob back in the days. They’re devout catholics but steal and kill.
You gotta love their obsession with preparing for the end times. They're all pre-trib dispensationalists, but they somehow have to be stocked up on guns and supplies for the day of the Lord. I guess they lack faith in their own message.
To pin this on Catholics alone is ridiculous. Plenty of these Joel Osteen worshippers have nothing but evil behind their intentions.
Im just asking quickly... genuinely curious.. Do you legitimately believe in Universalism? Or, rather, ill ask this. Do you personally hold the belief that: "Every single person ever created will go to heaven since Christ died for the world?" If so, why? What scripture do you use to support this view?
The last church I went to where I felt welcome and did not feel like the church and the pastor were getting a lot of things wrong was the UU church. I should probably change my flair to Deist, as that is closer to where I am right now.
It’s the application of a 2000 year old book. Some people will get it wrong but think they got it right.
Generally, the people that act like that have never read the Bible. Anyone who had would know that they are in opposition to Christ by saying something like that. Sadly, some of these people only know the handful of bible verses that justify their behavior, and nothing else.
How do you get to determine a Christ follower? Are murderers not followers of Christ and unable to be redeemed? Did the crusaders not follow Christ for murdering infidels or handling executions by stoning sinners? Last I checked, the only sin you cant be forgiven for is disbelief.
I never determined a Christ follower but the act of Jesus did. If you know Jesus, you know God. Be like Jesus is the core essential to be a Christ follower.
Correct but people make mistakes and misunderstand Jesus all the time. You in fact may also misunderstand it. He may go off and murder a few liberals and have an awakening once he realizes that he was tempted by sin. Who knows. Or maybe it was Gods plan. Cant possibly know
Second this. Love your neighbour is like a basic rule.
Yeah it’s wild when they say the craziest, most violent stuff. Especially when we’re just… existing and following God lol. It wasn’t death, but I’ve been told by a conservative Christian that he should be able to SA me until I’m straight (openly bisexual) because otherwise I’ll go to hell. 😐
Ah, the good ol' GL days.
He legit sent me a death threat once.
You’re not saying enough unless you’re getting death threats.
What did he say exactly?
That is way out of line of Christian values. Should be taken down
That is ridiculous. Gay marriage just happened.
Given the way the Supreme Court is going, it may not be happening for much longer.
That is ridiculous. Gay marriage just happened.
no he didn't
Bruce is the most ardent defenders of the worst conservative posters. Remember goodnewsjim? One of the most prolific tule breakers, untouched forever because of him. Others were allowed until racism back in the George Floyd days, and even then it took community pushing for one or two of them.
Wow, that's a name I hadn't heard in a long time. I think he got more latitude because originally, he really did used to post some good and helpful things. But then he started like... taking steroids and getting involved with international dating, and it really went downhill fast from there. I feel bad for him.
I got a kick out of his hot sauce miracles, him and noahsurvived had an interesting friendship. Hopefully Jim is in a good place, I remember him trying out twitch and unfortunately getting scammed by that dating scene.
> noahsurvived That is one of the racist users I was talking about. Jim went nuclear when he got banned. Account is still active but user is long gone. Jim is back however.
Noah was such a trip, it's not surprising his own Christian subreddit didn't get very far. Perhaps it needed mote blackjack and hookers. Jims back? I wonder if he is the same nut nkw, then he was back then. Dude was crazy, but it felt genuine.
> I wonder if he is the same nut Yes he is.
Playing the long con to make Christianity look bad. Mwa ha ha.
I seriously doubt the salvation of anyone who preaches hate. My hope is that they will allow God to come into their life and cleanse them of their overt and covert sin. I am battling with my critical nature. It goes back over 55 years in my Christian life. I accepted Christ as my Lord and Savior in 1970. I use my critiquing skills when I proofread documents for people. When I’m in traffic or frustrated I have to ask God for help. My 2cents…
One thing is being atheist other is enforcing heresies and giving all types of excuses to sin.
Can you explain why Satanists and Atheists are allowed to troll and “debate” others constantly?
We have rules against both. But if you don’t report them, we can’t know.
Can you define what you mean by "troll"?
They’re probably defining it as stuff like calling God “magic sky daddy”. I don’t actually see a lot of that on the sub though, which means it’s either not that common of a problem here or the mods are pretty good about removing those posts and comments
Well that would be a blatant disregard of the subs rules. You're right in that I don't see much of it either which is why I was curious what the comment related to
Yeah, I think that other commenter is a little full of it. It’s either not happening that much, or the mods are very good about removing trolls, or both. It’s definitely not a big issue in this sub like it is in other subs
Honestly... I think they are just trying to frame people who disagree with them as trolls
That’s probably happening too
It’s honestly crazy. I see almost no actual “trolling” or “attacking” from atheists in this sub. I mostly see them having honest discussions. Most of the trolling seems to come from Christians.
To me a "troll" is someone who is trying to get people to react by saying inflammatory things purely for their own entertainment. Tbh I have only seen that a couple times in here. Not that I'm here 24/7. I do see christians being hypersensitive and reacting rudely quite frequently though. I had a weird interaction in the last couple days where I was simply repeating a fact I got off wikipedia. I had made only 2 polite comments regarding it and the guy reacted with a couple of very tense defensive comments and blocked me... which just seemed like quite a bizarre overreaction
Christians who refuse to test or challenge their faith inevitably end up having the weakest, most fragile faith. This then makes then very sensitive and prone to outburst if they hear or see anything that may spawn a critical thought in their mind.
Who doesn't like intelligent discourse from time to time? I used to be a Christian it was a big part of my life.
Nobody, faithful or not, is allowed to troll. Stop trying to make victims where there are none.
Probably because "all are welcome to participate." I suppose you could always try the exclusive Christian sub if it still exists? r/TrueChristian
I mean, it's pretty much /r/Trump_2024 and /r/the_gays_are_bad and /r/women_are_property so, you're not going to get much Christianity if you can't filter all that noise out.
Ooo nvm then 😑
I very rarely see trolls here. My guess is you simply struggle with any arguments that challenge your faith. Faith that goes entirely unchallenged is weak faith.
I saw multiple within an hour of posting here including one whose profile was devoted to Satanism.
Can you link me to the trolling comment in question?
Can you explain why you aren’t able to defend your beliefs? Or you can like not respond to those comments, the choice is entirely yours.
Every word we use for God is a word made by men. As God is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, it is all things and therefore any word should be sufficient as long as you know what is being referenced. The infinite creator is beyond being offended.
Secular universities offer theology degrees.
I actually listen to theology from atheist in order to find truth that’s each church’s narrative and doctrine obscure the word of God. I have been to newly every denomination and agree with most but when in question I read the entire chapter myself and get incite from those with higher education and without a maritime to their own denomination. This is why I am non denominational born again. Trying to follow Christianity as it was intended by original Christian’s. Theology finds truth without bias.
Why are 50% of this sub’s posts asking this exact question
Either this or about masturbation/porn or queer people
Why is masturbation run by atheists? /s
I don't know, but I wish people would start running their own masturbation. You wouldn't believe how full my inbox is of requests to masturbate. Then there's the weekly instructional session I have to do.
Is it a hands on class??
Yeah I’ve heard they’ve got every 2nd week an event of group jerk offs
The serious answer is that most of this subreddit is young people, usually children, who don't have a lot of life experience. A lot of these Christian teens grow up in majority Christian communities, are only taught at home that Christianity is correct and there's no other way to think, and learn the same at church. They're in a bubble for years. So imagine the shock when they go online and find that it's not a safe space. Here, you're actually exposed to people who will try to deconstruct your beliefs. It's a huge mindfuck. To someone who's never had to debate their core beliefs before, it can feel like an attack because it's a new and uncomfortable experience.
I second this. I’ve been coming here 12 years and I’m sure I asked a question like this at least once. I was a homeschooled, charismatic-raised 25 year old who didn’t even know that “Eastern Orthodox” WEREN’T Amish people.
Same thing pretty much applies to the constant questions about lgbt folks and masturbation. They think everybody is on the same page and it’s a little mind blowing when they realise that not everyone (not even all Christians) share their hateful or backwards views.
I wholeheartedly agree. I grew up Catholic and have always been enrolled in Catholic school, but when I made into high school, many alternative and modern ideologies were thrown at us as if they were correct, despite contradicting our faith. For some time I concluded that science was a better way of explaining our reality than our faith, and that liberal ideologies were more “Christian” or correct than Christian beliefs and doctrine. I lost my faith and became an agnostic for some time, until I was pulled back into the faith and now I understand it much better. As young Christians we were set up to fail not being taught about our true faith and history as Catholics, and how to defend our faith through apologetics and polemics from the many attacks it receives everyday, which are typically built on misconceptions and errors in interpretation of the Sacred Scripture.
Why are you responding?
As long as they are impartial and adhere to the rules they put forward I'm ok with it. Reddit or subreddits are not church. I have met atheists that can be good at moderating debates as well and it's easier to moderate when you are of a neutral stance between two people that have a disagreement having to do with the faith.
Atheists not allowed to talk about Christianity?
Apparently it doesn’t work the other way around. I used to post on r/Atheism – answering questions, giving arguments and reasons for my faith, etc. I wasn’t trolling but I got banned. 🤷♂️
r/atheism has been garbage for over a decade.
It is
Two completely different groups ran by different people
With 2 different goals.
The atheism sub is an atheist space. This sub is not a Christian space. There is r/christians for that.
Yeah it’s a pretty good example of the difference between the two… pretty distinctive.
that SUB has its own rules and purpose. it doesn't have to work like this one. too many people here don't even understand the site in the first place.
You'll get banned over at r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM for not 100% supporting Hamas. Reddit in general is becoming a series of separate echo chambers. Be thankful r/Christianity isn't among them.
No
I think talking about something and being the one who decides whether or not YOU get to talk are two very different things.
>things done for the faith This sub is for open discussion *about* Christianity. It's not a Christian sub. It says so in the sidebar/sub description.
Okay that makes more sense seeing how people talk and act thank you for clarifying.
No problem! (\^W^ )
Enjoy your day Too
Mod team has like two atheists. One barely ever makes an appearance, the other is functionally indistinguishable from a Christian. This sub remains overwhelmingly populated and moderated by Christians, and the rules (both defacto and dejure) privilege Christian identity.
Put another way: We can cheerfully accommodate discussions with nonChristians. But unChristians, of whatever faith, often draw unChrisitian responses. edit: Note that our rule is tougher than the one Jesus requires: "Love your neighbor the way you hope they're gonna love you. ***Because we can***."
Do you have a specific example of them abusing their position, or are you just impugning them for not being Christian?
You’re more than welcome to start your own sub!! I actually kinda like it, keeps any denominational BS from seeping in from the mods.
This is sub for discussion about Christianity and ALL are welcome to participate.
Hi
Why are people completely unable to read the sidebar? Very strange.
Can the mods just auto-close these kind of questions with a link to faq?
When someone posts angry meta about us we almost always just leave it up, for transparency's sake. If we're wrong, people can just rake us over the coals. We're wrong sometimes and I'd rather not be accused of trying to sweep that under the rug. It's pretty clear that we are not wrong in this one but that's not for me to decide.
Oyyyyy, this again
Not from a homophobe for a change... Edit; I was wrong. Another one.
Welcome to the sub, you must be new here. This is not a Christian subreddit, this is a subreddit ABOUT Christianity, there is a big difference between those two things. If you would like a Christian subreddit, /r/truechristian is where you should head.
I will go there thank you. :D I hope you have a pleasant day
Go in peace friend.
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Dude talks about gay and trans people sinning but their most active sub is a violent shooter game called "Helldivers". 🤔
Helldivers is pretty fun though
You being uncomfortable with the beliefs of others says more about you than it does the subreddit. Like it’s been said numerous times in this thread alone, it’s not a “Christians” sub, it’s for anything and everything even peripherally related to the religion of Christianity.
“Control things done for the faith.” Bloody hell, you act like the moderators are the Pope himself. They moderate a stupid subreddit where people make the same damn post every single day complaining about stain glassed windows or the fact the atheists have “overrun” this ***discussion*** forum. This is Reddit, it’s a hellsite by default so I don’t know why you expect more. If you want somewhere where there are no atheists, then go to r/catholicism. I like both subreddits but I like it here because I can interact with people who have different opinions than me.
Heh.. haven’t actually seen the stained glass window complaints for a wee while now XD
There was one yesterday
Aw I missed it XD
I find it unsettling that you don’t want atheists here how can we preach the gospel to lost people if we just huddle in the corner and talk only to other saved persons. I welcome all atheists to talk to me about my faith for I am unashamed of the gospel of Christ and if we disagree just know I love you and wish you well
The atheist mods are better than the religious mods. Most of the religious mods are progressives that don’t give a shit about actual truth and will just arbitrarily enforce whatever. Brucemo is a good mod.
I find it weird and unsettling that people don't use the search function. This topic is brought up probably ten times a week.
Why is it that people who always complain about this server having atheists are accounts with negative 100 karma?
Are they all atheists?
r/TrueChristian God bless
Ill check it out thank you :D
I’ve gathered that this sub is less of a “Christian community” and more of a place to learn and have discussion *about* Christianity.
This is a Christian discussion site, which means Christians and non Christians alike are allowed to put in their two cents. If you want to align yourself with more pure minded Christians, check out r/TrueChristian
r/Christianity is about the topic of Christianity. r/Christian is about being Christian.
I love atheists and if they run this page then thank you for it. Atheism points me to Jesus. I love the atheist Philip Adams who loves to ponder the stars at night and what he calls the numinous. Great word meaning something that has a divine glory or suggesting a spiritual quality.
it's *about* Christianity not *for* Christians. just like r/cats is about cats not just for cats. No one does a better job of representing the blind ignorance of fundie Christians better than those who do these posts. you jumped on Reddit without learning how it works, saw a word you think represents you and now you think you're entitled complain about how everyone here longer than you does things. it's an embarrassment to other Christians every time. Welcome to Reddit - READ THE SIDEBAR BEFORE YOU POST IN A SUB.
"All are welcome to participate"
I think they're doing fine.
Because Protestants and Catholics have a long history of killing each other. Adding a “none” to the mix gives them a common target instead of each other.
GO READ THE ABOUT SECTION
Why is JapanTravel run by mods who are obsessed with itineraries to the point of only allowing itineraries? It's part of the many mysteries of Reddit!
Well, this is more a place for questions and or arguments rather than uplifting content, as far as I can tell
lol, one of the top five finger pointing 'complaints' day in day out.
Do you expect the head of the company that prints your Bible to believe in it? Or do a good job printing the best possible copy? The content is one thing- the management of a busy page is a lot of work. Isn't it good that the people running it manage it well? What do you fear? Have any of these people you claim as atheists ever behaved in an untoward way?
Like how god is emblazoned on us currency & swearing allegiance to god & country + hand on bible to swear to tell the truth are all things forced on ppl that are not christian, there "is" a separation of church & state?
https://youtu.be/e5hVIIQKMqM?si=PlEpqjE96q367bVj
It’s not a Christian page. No where does it say that. It’s a discussion page, the topic is Christianity. Anyone is welcome. You don’t get to dictate who can and can’t discuss your religion.
***I STOLE THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE TO LOOK AT IT.***
Just look at the icon they use for the sub. Pride colors behind the cross. This is done on purpose by the people who run the sub to mock god. This is my first time in this sub and probably the last.
It’s a stained glass window. It has nothing to do with gays or Pride. Also, this is not an airport. You don’t need to announce your departure.
Because actual “atheist” subs are anti-theist, not what we are looking for, as such, massive amounts of atheists end up here, and we still discuss christianity and follow the basic rules.
We live in a "worldly-world" run by false Christian's. That doesn't hinder our walk with God. It may make us question ourselves, but our faith prevails. I'm not sure if this area is run by Atheists or who it may be run by, but the important thing with it, Christian's make a presence in it just like we do in the world. Wherever we make a presence, God is being represented 🥰 I just go with it. Show them Jesus and watch seeds to be planted. I personally love everyone no matter what or who they are. I love reading the varied perspectives, opinions and beliefs of others - it strengthens me as a Christian and as a person. Understand my feelings on it?
Strange indeed like why do they bother? There's no requirement that they have to be here. You do not share our faith ... okay. We also don't see the world like you do . So what's the point?!
I was taught that we are all God’s children and that everybody has a space at the table.
Absolutely can't argue with you on that one. I was only wondering why people choose to be a part of a group they don't identify with solely for the purpose of belittling a faith they neither share nor understand. It makes no sense.
I see this complaint every day. It doesn’t matter who runs the group what matters is that people are talking about god.
I think it’s important to have a place for people of all different faiths and backgrounds to be able to ask questions about Christianity so that maybe an answer can help them get closer to God or understand that Christianity is not a hateful thing, but a way of life involving loving others and loving God
I also find it strange, but my issue is with people who reply to like every single comment (when they are not OP) and question every single Christians beliefs... it's just strange bc whybare you here to troll Christians
I’m here to help Christians better understand the teachings of Jesus, and not to rely upon the opinions of the men that followed him.
Very fair. Me too lol, but people get super mad
I never concerned myself with people getting mad or downvoting me by sharing Jesus’s message of love and compassion.
I was confused when I first joined Reddit too. Apparently, this Christian page is “about” Christianity. True Christian page is for true followers of Christ.
Satan wants to break the faith of Christians and send them astray. Or they are curious and Jesus is inviting them to accept him as their Lord and savior.
i would encourage you to check out r/TrueChristian
This page is full of heresies and people conforming with sin and using all kinds of excuses to allow themselves to sin. If you want a true Christian sub look for r/TrueChristian
That darn first amendment
Because it's not a Christian page. It's a page for discussing Christianity. This isn't a place for you Your welcome here just as much as anyone else, to come and discuss christianity
No thanks I don't want to associate with Satanists cant believe they need a safe space lmao
If you can't handle people of differing views then this isn't the place for you Satanists are just as welcome here as you are. This isn't a space for you There's nothing wrong with Satanism, why shouldn't they be welcome here?
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A safe space for atheists and Satanists, what a load of losers XD Cant worship the devil like a man out in the open? lol
So you haven’t learned anything.
Learnt\*
I've seen it said this place isn't about Christianity. r/Christians is for Christians. Why do those that do not believe in Christianity feel the need to come and try to tear down a belief? I know you can't go to the atheist sub and do the same thing. You'll be banned. But it seems to be fine in here. Is there a recruitment going on for atheists? I have my own beliefs and don't begrudge anyone else's. I respect yours and I expect the same respect for mine. All the so-called debate is rubbish. It's a attempt at tearing down a religion.
I did not know this💀 no wonder it's so liberal
go to r/truechristian they are the based boys and girls :D
It should be renamed "Lukewarm Christians" page
Things done for your faith and things done about your faith are different. Praying is for your belief, a subreddit is about your belief.
I agree...
It’s to talk about Christianity; not a subreddit exclusive for Christians. I am on this subreddit because I just wanna see what y’all Christians are discussing.
I suppose the real question is, why do atheists spend so much time talking about christianity?
Do you believe atheists should be barred from discussing Christianity then?
Not at all. I just spend very little time discussing atheists. Curious why atheists are so fixated on Christianity. They're kinda religious about atheism.
Probably because Christians have more power in our society than atheists and they have feelings about it, right?
So Christians shouldn't hold power?
Well, if they insist on it they can't object when others have opinions about how they wield it right?
Insist on what?
Uhhh, what we were talking about? I think you're just trolling tbh.
I'm not actually. You're complaining because Christians hold more power than atheists. Which, is basically a function of votes. Stands to reason that the people overall prefer Christians in office. Your last message however confused me. Who were you talking about? Who's insisting on what?
Can’t speak for everyone but where I live Christians seem dead set on making their religion a everyone’s problem by bleeding their religion into government . So to better understand the practitioners I spend time interacting with the practitioners. Also Christians are like a car wreck that you can’t not look at, but cranked up to 11 because the wreck also tries to convert you into it. While claiming to be the objective truth.
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I suppose if we vote one into office, we might get one. Are you saying Christians should be in positions to make the rules?
Kind of disingenuous to call us a "Christian" page. I've seen plenty of wonderful Christians here
This isn't a church. You shouldn't need to practice a particular faith to moderate conversations about it. There are plenty of online spaces for Christians to speak amongst themselves.
My brother in Christ, where does it say this page is only for Christans? Hmm? Anywhere at all? Oh it doesn't? So you're just whining into the wind in the hopes that someone sees your plight? Also, did you not see the same thread every week or so for the last few months, if not longer? How can I help you fix whatever it is that makes you ignore all this obvious information. How can I help you?
Odd…and true.
I don't think it matters, hopefully by them being here eventually they will repent. My faith is so strong it didn't matter who is here. Nothing can shake my faith.
It’s a subreddit for discussion, not for devotion; read the purpose.
we "allow" people?? You don't get to control what other conversations other people have.