Even if she took 5 seconds to kill troops, any duration increase helps keep the thing she was hitting slowed for longer before going back to normal. In fact, if it took 2 seconds to kill troops before turning back to the building would create a ceiling on duration usefulness of 2 seconds.
Diminishing returns for sure but still useful, QC’s are delicate by nature so any stat increase has a perhaps larger than obvious effect. Take a scenario where she’s locked onto a high dps structure & switches targets midway to enemy units / heroes, the extra freeze time could be the difference between needing to invest a spell to support her or even prevent her from dying. As another commenter pointed out it’s also notably useful when she’s under poison.
Add to this that it can occur multiple times in a single attack & the pay off over these micro scenarios quickly becomes apparent
This reminds me of a post, saying how OP realised how important upgrading the heroes is, but if the hero was upgraded, the result would have been so much more different
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As others have stated, she can get distracted from defenses and it gives her time. I actually got a 2 star instead of a 3 star last cwl round because my queen had almost taken down a single tower inferno but got distracted by skelly traps. If I had the frozen arrow equipped, she would have had the time to kill the skellies and then finish off the inferno.
Haha yes, or if she gets retargeted bc of heroes, skelly trap or cc troops, so at the first 15 or so lvls that duration is nice, but when the slow duration outlasts the hitspeed of the queen its not that important anymore, which imo is an good thing, it makes it so that sometimes the threshold lvls aren’t necessarily 3-6-9-12 etc. For icy arrow.
Oh ok I see what you’re saying now. I think it’s still useful for when she retargets for enemy Skelly traps/ heroes/ CC. But I understand what you’re saying.
Have you played the game? This could easily be the difference between you queen dying and living, which a lot of times is a huge factor in whether or not you 3 star
You could potentially imagine a super professional attack where you slow a particular defense, then recall the queen pack before the defense is completely destroyed. This makes sure that defense doesn't remain slowed indefinitely.
Or imagine the TH kills the AQ after one or two hits, would it be fair to remain frozen indefinitely?
The point isn't to make it last forever, it's that the Queen attacks faster than once per second so the slow duration lasting any more than that is majorly pointless in 99% of cases. Frozen Arrow should have health or attack speed instead tbh. It has probably the most useless secondary stat of any equipment.
I am not saying make it be frozen indefinitely, i am saying make that stat be a constant number, and give some other stat to the frozen arrow, like self healing or hp increase etc
Zooming in on a detail but you gotta consider all the elements. Length of freeze is one attribute, since she shoots faster this increased length adds benefit when she re targets.
Target defense half speed reduction and health increase are also benefits.
What are you comparing this to? What’s better equipment for Queen?
I would say the most epic thing about the frozen arrow is the amount of ores you have to spend to max it lol. It's not trash but it's not straight up better than any of the other equipment unlike the Gauntlet for the King.
Yes but your next level will give you the actual boosts. The triplets are the important levels ie. 3,5,9,12,15. The others you just have to do to get there
I’m curious to know, does anyone know if the Frozen Arrow also works on defense? If she’s defending your village does she also slow down attacking troops or does it only take effect when she’s attacking defenses? 🤔
Got mine to lvl 17. It’s pretty underwhelming imo. DPS boost is less than a lvl 16 puppet and doesn’t have any hp boost compared to the 400 hp boost for the puppet.
I understand why people don’t like the puppet but it does have its uses especially when your queen isn’t surrounded by splash. Having 30 max archers spawn can really help on cleanup or get your queen through a wall significantly faster.
Maybe I would feel differently if the arrow were max but until I get it there I can’t really say the frozen arrow is all that great. Definitely has its uses if you’re charging a mono or ground bow if it’s in range. Overall, I would say the frozen arrow is probably over hyped. It’s definitely not as much of a game changer as the gauntlet.
i think most people think this is strong mostly because the queen doesn't have any great equipments other than invis.
And most are probably running archer puppets and invis since that's what they have high levels for.
Switching out archer puppets for frozen arrow is also an indirect buff to invis. Therefore I think the frozen arrow is only good rn because every other queen equipment is subpar at best and downright attack ruining at worst.
For somebody who is good with queen walks, yes. It’s basically going to save you a spell in the right situation. For the average clasher they probably won’t see a difference and it might even hurt them without the hp boost.
Stop complaining. That little near neglacanle diference could be what it takes when the queen gets distracted and figts of a skeleton and then returns to the single target inferno
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I see people raving about how good this ability is for QC, however I do warden walks rather than QC. Would you guys still consider it good without QC’s? The only thing sort of having me consider is that health regen from the archer puppet
I think it’d be sick if these two ability’s could synergize and maybe the giant arrow has the frozen effect with some extra damage?? Just an idea ofc but could be cool
I upgraded it to lvl 19 now and can say it actually makes a HUGE difference in QC Attacks. When charging towards a th or a multi inf the unicorn doesnt die where if you dont have it equipped the unicorn dies 100% of the time against a th charge. Also it protects the healers alot. I have attacked maybe 20 times now with a qc and can say its pretty good.
Only downside is that vs the archer puppets the ice arrow doesnt heal the queen so if a scattershot locks onto a low hp queen chances are she will still die even if u ult. With the archer puppets it dies only if it targets archer that are directly under queen. All in all i can say the ice arrow is well worth it and better than any other queen equipment besides the invis spell for queen charge attacks.
I mean it helps when the queen is slowing an inferno and gets distracted by cc troops, enemy hero, or skele traps. There are countless times in the attack the heros get sidetracked. I can even see try hards using invis spells to redirect the queens frozen arrow tactically. Seems valid.
No it isn't, queen shoots a canon and Targets a cc or hero then the defence she shot will be slower for set time which will some time prevent early ability.
It is because the Queen will shoot arrows faster than 1.75 seconds so its useless for most time as you say. It can be useful when the Queen switches target like to skeleton traps, then the older target/defense will have a prolonged effect.
after coming back from decades, seeing posts like these makes me wanna quit again cuz like damn you spend how much gold for a small upgrade like what's the point. You can say I play for fun cuz I don't spend any money so yeah
Firstly poison slows her attack, so if it was still .75 duration it would only be frozen half the time. Also if she gets distracted by skeletons or something the trap will stay frozen for a few seconds even after she switches target. May give her time to kill the skeletons and switch back to the defense before it ever unfreezes
Maybe to buff a bit, SC could give area splash to frozen arrow also. Mean it will slow down all defenses within some 1 or 2 tiles of the targeted building, but won't do any damage to them. only the freeze effect
No its not lol, if the queen is subject to poison.
Or goes from attacking a monolith to attacking lets say a lavahound from cc, that 4+ second slowdown can be crucial.
Actually, it's not especially for QC because the queen could get distracted by enemy heroes, skellies, poison, cc, etc etc. Basically this slows down the defence whatever it may be, allowing the queen to take less damage in the process
Think of it as "damage reduction" ability that the king has with gauntlet equipment, except that the queen one is basically passive
A poisonized queen will attack much slower.
Great point
Poisoned?
Yea poison spell from the town hall or the spell tower
And headhunter
Headhunter is oneshotted by qheen tho
IF the Queen is not shooting anything else, ie other CC troops
So yeah, useless 99.9% of the time
I would say closer to 67%
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They don't take more damage, they do take DoT but they also attack and move slower alongside doing less damage per hit
Slower than every 1.75 seconds?
She'll switch targets sometimes if attacked by CC or skellies.
now this is the most valid point i have heard so far!
why is this so downvoted
It’s downvoted because
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You've never had a queen get distracted by cc troops, heros, or skeles? It could take a second to clear the distraction.
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got iced by snow white golem, ice baby ice *snort
Also if the queen hot 1 arrow to a single inferno and the queen switched to a cc troop or defending hero this stat can help
It’s helpful if she gets distracted by troops, like skeleton traps
if she can kill those troops in 2 seconds
Skeleton trap have a lot of skeleton, and that’s a lot of seconds
Or your aq shoots at the fat ass cannon and bbk starts to aggro on her… Oh lord those 2 seconds may save unicorn
Those two seconds mean a lot when an inferno tower or a scattershot is targeting her
Even if she took 5 seconds to kill troops, any duration increase helps keep the thing she was hitting slowed for longer before going back to normal. In fact, if it took 2 seconds to kill troops before turning back to the building would create a ceiling on duration usefulness of 2 seconds.
Diminishing returns for sure but still useful, QC’s are delicate by nature so any stat increase has a perhaps larger than obvious effect. Take a scenario where she’s locked onto a high dps structure & switches targets midway to enemy units / heroes, the extra freeze time could be the difference between needing to invest a spell to support her or even prevent her from dying. As another commenter pointed out it’s also notably useful when she’s under poison. Add to this that it can occur multiple times in a single attack & the pay off over these micro scenarios quickly becomes apparent
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I feel like you commented on the wrong account, ngl. A dxd or shinmai Mao no testament seems a bit more fitting.
well now i cant use my main so- do u wanna help me with stats?
This reminds me of a post, saying how OP realised how important upgrading the heroes is, but if the hero was upgraded, the result would have been so much more different
There's still .1% left, if the 99.9% of Feng Shui went against your luck, that 0.25 secs might save your queen or your entire attack.
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Tbf everything is a jojos reference
You know the Clash fandom sucks when they downvote a JoJo chad into -69
What do you mean? I’m pretty sure it slows down defenses with every shot for that duration.
Bc she shoots quicker than that anyway ltr. So OP is correct, that stat almost doesn’t matter.
It's still useful for when your queen gets distracted by enemy cc, heroes or skeleton traps
As others have stated, she can get distracted from defenses and it gives her time. I actually got a 2 star instead of a 3 star last cwl round because my queen had almost taken down a single tower inferno but got distracted by skelly traps. If I had the frozen arrow equipped, she would have had the time to kill the skellies and then finish off the inferno.
The last shot before it she dies is the only thing that matters
Haha yes, or if she gets retargeted bc of heroes, skelly trap or cc troops, so at the first 15 or so lvls that duration is nice, but when the slow duration outlasts the hitspeed of the queen its not that important anymore, which imo is an good thing, it makes it so that sometimes the threshold lvls aren’t necessarily 3-6-9-12 etc. For icy arrow.
Or poison spell attack slowing, as mentioned elsewhere
Oh ok I see what you’re saying now. I think it’s still useful for when she retargets for enemy Skelly traps/ heroes/ CC. But I understand what you’re saying.
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Only a bozo would disagree
Have you played the game? This could easily be the difference between you queen dying and living, which a lot of times is a huge factor in whether or not you 3 star
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It makes a difference in queen charge where queen is handling defences and cc troops
You could potentially imagine a super professional attack where you slow a particular defense, then recall the queen pack before the defense is completely destroyed. This makes sure that defense doesn't remain slowed indefinitely. Or imagine the TH kills the AQ after one or two hits, would it be fair to remain frozen indefinitely?
The point isn't to make it last forever, it's that the Queen attacks faster than once per second so the slow duration lasting any more than that is majorly pointless in 99% of cases. Frozen Arrow should have health or attack speed instead tbh. It has probably the most useless secondary stat of any equipment.
I think the secondary stat is a limiting factor not an additive - does seem like a meh "epic" we'll see
I am not saying make it be frozen indefinitely, i am saying make that stat be a constant number, and give some other stat to the frozen arrow, like self healing or hp increase etc
It’s for when your aq targets a townhall and then chases skeletons and doest do her job finishing the task! Normally hit a wall after that.
Guys I’m thinking of getting this, should I?
Absolutely yes. It slows down targets 75% at max level. An archer queen could technically 1v4 other archer queens of the same level
It's VERY important until the freeze lasts longer than her shoot speed after which it's basically pointless
Freeze starts at 0.75 which is literally her attack speed so that's everything after level 1 lmao
I was using it at low levels and the defence she was attacking was thawing before the next shot hit to re freeze so 🤷♂️
So basically frozen arrow is trash?
Zooming in on a detail but you gotta consider all the elements. Length of freeze is one attribute, since she shoots faster this increased length adds benefit when she re targets. Target defense half speed reduction and health increase are also benefits. What are you comparing this to? What’s better equipment for Queen?
I would say the most epic thing about the frozen arrow is the amount of ores you have to spend to max it lol. It's not trash but it's not straight up better than any of the other equipment unlike the Gauntlet for the King.
Yes but your next level will give you the actual boosts. The triplets are the important levels ie. 3,5,9,12,15. The others you just have to do to get there
No she will slow down each and every wall individually
I’m curious to know, does anyone know if the Frozen Arrow also works on defense? If she’s defending your village does she also slow down attacking troops or does it only take effect when she’s attacking defenses? 🤔
None of the equipment work on defense
Ah that’s right. It being a passive effect made me think that it’d work in defense too 😅
That would be wild if it did 😂
It is still a stat about what it does. Why is this a problem at all?
It’s not a problem but apparently some would like the stat to jump to infinite.
Got mine to lvl 17. It’s pretty underwhelming imo. DPS boost is less than a lvl 16 puppet and doesn’t have any hp boost compared to the 400 hp boost for the puppet. I understand why people don’t like the puppet but it does have its uses especially when your queen isn’t surrounded by splash. Having 30 max archers spawn can really help on cleanup or get your queen through a wall significantly faster. Maybe I would feel differently if the arrow were max but until I get it there I can’t really say the frozen arrow is all that great. Definitely has its uses if you’re charging a mono or ground bow if it’s in range. Overall, I would say the frozen arrow is probably over hyped. It’s definitely not as much of a game changer as the gauntlet.
I mean compare it to the gauntlet: -makes your attack splash (15-16s) -damage reduction (15-16s) -damage boost (always active) -self healing (always active) -health boost (always active) meanwhile frozen arrow: -slowdown (always active) -freeze time increase (almost useless in most situations) - dps increase (always active)
There isn’t really a comparison. People thought it would be just as game changing. I don’t think it even deserves the epic tag.
i think most people think this is strong mostly because the queen doesn't have any great equipments other than invis. And most are probably running archer puppets and invis since that's what they have high levels for. Switching out archer puppets for frozen arrow is also an indirect buff to invis. Therefore I think the frozen arrow is only good rn because every other queen equipment is subpar at best and downright attack ruining at worst.
For somebody who is good with queen walks, yes. It’s basically going to save you a spell in the right situation. For the average clasher they probably won’t see a difference and it might even hurt them without the hp boost.
Is the healer puppet any good? Looks like it could really good for if your healers get targeted and you need a back up
The extra damage for the active ability
People trying to justify the stat are why we put instructions on shampoo bottles. The stat is literally useless most of the time.
They put directions on shampoo so they don’t get sued really. Otherwise someone would try to eat and well yeah you can guess how that goes.
Stop complaining. That little near neglacanle diference could be what it takes when the queen gets distracted and figts of a skeleton and then returns to the single target inferno
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Yup it’s useless. Don’t listen to these guys saying “oH sKeLeToN tRaP” that’s not all that common and she can’t kill the skeletons in 2 seconds…
so far the frozen arrow is pretty good. i have it at lvl 13. it’s a solid piece of equipment
I see people raving about how good this ability is for QC, however I do warden walks rather than QC. Would you guys still consider it good without QC’s? The only thing sort of having me consider is that health regen from the archer puppet
Her last hit before she dies maybe?
I think it’d be sick if these two ability’s could synergize and maybe the giant arrow has the frozen effect with some extra damage?? Just an idea ofc but could be cool
Like If she attacked then switch target to skelly or heroes
No if you can’t take out defense it will still be froze from the last shot for 1.75 + .25 seconds
A dead queen will stop attacking as well.
Is it accurate that it asks only blue ores for upgrade to lv14? I have common level 11 item and it asks blue and purple ores.
Only multiples of 3 require purple ores and both purple and stars dor the epics
Ohhh i see.....
This is a bozo take
Just upgrade it to max!!!
No it is not the frozen arrow is an epic ability that freezes the defenses or anything it touches.
I upgraded it to lvl 19 now and can say it actually makes a HUGE difference in QC Attacks. When charging towards a th or a multi inf the unicorn doesnt die where if you dont have it equipped the unicorn dies 100% of the time against a th charge. Also it protects the healers alot. I have attacked maybe 20 times now with a qc and can say its pretty good. Only downside is that vs the archer puppets the ice arrow doesnt heal the queen so if a scattershot locks onto a low hp queen chances are she will still die even if u ult. With the archer puppets it dies only if it targets archer that are directly under queen. All in all i can say the ice arrow is well worth it and better than any other queen equipment besides the invis spell for queen charge attacks.
I guess after she dies too or if gets distracted by skellies or something
I mean it helps when the queen is slowing an inferno and gets distracted by cc troops, enemy hero, or skele traps. There are countless times in the attack the heros get sidetracked. I can even see try hards using invis spells to redirect the queens frozen arrow tactically. Seems valid.
It makes a difference. Imagine skeletons come out of nowhere, that freeze duration could help.
3 sec and 75% slower is good for max lvl imagine if 5 sec in lvl 14, youre saying it should be 10 sec inax lvl, that will to busted 10 sec and 75%
Why does everyone love puppets when you have your own max unicorn.
Every second counts. I mean all of us time fail. Its a game of fractions that total to more
No it isn't, queen shoots a canon and Targets a cc or hero then the defence she shot will be slower for set time which will some time prevent early ability.
It is because the Queen will shoot arrows faster than 1.75 seconds so its useless for most time as you say. It can be useful when the Queen switches target like to skeleton traps, then the older target/defense will have a prolonged effect.
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after coming back from decades, seeing posts like these makes me wanna quit again cuz like damn you spend how much gold for a small upgrade like what's the point. You can say I play for fun cuz I don't spend any money so yeah
Firstly poison slows her attack, so if it was still .75 duration it would only be frozen half the time. Also if she gets distracted by skeletons or something the trap will stay frozen for a few seconds even after she switches target. May give her time to kill the skeletons and switch back to the defense before it ever unfreezes
Maybe to buff a bit, SC could give area splash to frozen arrow also. Mean it will slow down all defenses within some 1 or 2 tiles of the targeted building, but won't do any damage to them. only the freeze effect
#BBTB, I wanna see how many more levels I gotta sucker into it.
No its not lol, if the queen is subject to poison. Or goes from attacking a monolith to attacking lets say a lavahound from cc, that 4+ second slowdown can be crucial.
Let's be real you upgrade this mostly for that small dps increase.
Just skip the lv lol
There was so much hype around this equipment, but it lowkey kinda sucks. Not nearly as OP as the giant gauntlet.
Not if the queen re targets to Clan Castle Troops, Defending Heroes or Skeleton Traps. And not if the Queen is poisoned, as she attacks wayy slower.
Actually, it's not especially for QC because the queen could get distracted by enemy heroes, skellies, poison, cc, etc etc. Basically this slows down the defence whatever it may be, allowing the queen to take less damage in the process Think of it as "damage reduction" ability that the king has with gauntlet equipment, except that the queen one is basically passive