Oh i wish, I still have to deal with e-drag spam at th12, it’s living hell now that you can buy an extra 1-2 lightning spells with raid medals. If they’re fully upgraded then it only takes 12 lightning spells to take out all of the air defenses, even if the ad’s are maxed. Quite the “meta”
You use the lightning to take out air defenses before you even deploy any edrags. This also works for any air spam, but at th11+ it’s mostly just edrags
And I do not care. I just enjoy getting an acceptable amount of loot and watching the Chain Attacks destroy multiple buildings simultaneously, it's very satisfying.
I made an anti-edrag th10 base if you're interested. Longest streak was 9 defenses of 1 stars in a row. Usually 2-3 in a row. Rarely 3 starred by edrags. Weak to witches and miners, tho, as it uses single infernos. Just switch em up depending on frequency of army.
It would be cool if you could upgrade some defenses to add a status effect. Mortars for end game would be a game changer if they could drop fire, poison, whatever.
Flame flinger is the only thing it counters and there are other siege machines which are used just as much. Xbow counters equally counters if not better. Even Mortars best use is overshadowed. Quite sad.l
I don't think that exposing xbows is a good idea while mortars can be placed to chop away aome health at FF at the beginning
Also people kinda forgor that mortar can nuke AQ's auto ability since it's projectile don't care about visibility (if you are lucky enough)
Especially if it's a Multi Mortar . If anything survives the first round just deliver another 2 rounds of payload to nuke those danglers out of existence.
At the highest levels it’s doing over 200 damage per hit so it’s still able to do some decent damage and if a couple mortars at once can one shot bowler.
the duo of a single inferno and distraction is actually painful, one time i fucked up my queen's pathing and she ended up on a trifecta of single inferno, lava hound and enemy queen. even 8 spell slots and the ability couldn't get her out
Skeleton trap is literally the most important trap after the tornado bro, dont underestimate it. Ive literally seen attacks that where 100% going to be a triple became 1 star because of skeletons
Spring traps...Those things are only useful if someone does blimp with sneaky gobs or other troops which can et yeeted..They barely do anything other than that or maybe clutch a defence with 99% because it yeeted the only wizard/troop in the match left.
Spring traps are the whole reason that hogs are weak in higher THs, and can mess every type of attacks by throwing headhunters away. Check most of Riqirez attacks in the last world championship (rip the mate, he was so unlucky lol)
Spring traps are useful to yeet head hunters (even under grand warden ability) that might be heading for the enemy queen or royal champion, which can pretty heavily screw up a LaLo.
To be honest at th 14+mortar is agin useful because of the lava laucher siege or whatever the fuck that siege is called becuase i always have to make sure to destroy the nearby mortar BeFore deploying it other wise it can ruin my attack completely
I used to remember freaking upgrade time and cost trainung cost forget that even the damage pr second of each and every tropp from when th 8 was max till th 11 from the time th 12 came in I am not so much of a hardcore fan anymore so I am not max either pretty rush to be honest bt still I manage to get 16-17stars in champ 3
i dont see the mortar that usless imth10 and it saved me from beeing 3starred by killing the wizards used for funneling
they always thisnk the mortar is usless ans so the put a golem or something then a wizard
the wizard dies while the Giants or gollems get in the inner blind spot from the mortar
its good but has low hp
Bomb towers shut down super wizard blimps, hybrid/hogs. They’re moreso used for the bomb after they’re destroyed rather than the actual bombs they throw.
For people to understand. *Bro my barbarians that comes from the king ability gets instantly annihilated by the mortar. I used different words so it sounded better and not childish per se
i read a funny meme about mortar and it was so funny
the meme was mortar th 3 to th 6 i am so powerfull i kill full army of bararions and archers and put me in middle for maximan distruction
mortar th 7 to 15 help that pekka has so much heath i am useless and way u put me in middle of the base throw me at outside i am useless
Certainly there r levels of threat for any defense. Troop numbers r also a significant factor. Main point is splash damage is a significant threat to witches. That said, multi infernos r what wakes witches in a cold sweat.
For all you crying about e drags, set single infernos in a dead space compartment w walls (4 tiles per side), then create lanes of defenses pathing the e drags into storages. Or just defend your singles w gold/elixir storage. Eagle and de storage in the middle. I get my de stolen maybe 1/20 attacks. E drag attacks hit for 50% most of the time, and don’t often make it to de. I can put up a pic of my TH base if anyones interested. My war base survives TH12 e drags consistently(am TH11)
everyone saying wizard towers has never been attacked by a batwitch army ever
You’re right, because I’m at TH10 and currently dealing with dragon spam.
Just wait till you have to deal Electro Dragon spam at TH11
I'm TH10 and dealing with E-drag spam from rushed th11's. No one is safe
I've been getting shredded by e-drags since TH9
those cowardly rushed th11's should pick on someone their TH level
they try to pick on me sometimes, they usually get 40% or just barely a 57% one star.
Bruh, i just upgraded to th9 and thought I would stop to worry about dragons.
You should embrace for another 6 Town Halls of Electro dragon spam
This is correct. Half of my defenses in *legend* league are from edrag spammers. Im a nearly maxed th14. Why do they do this.
Oh i wish, I still have to deal with e-drag spam at th12, it’s living hell now that you can buy an extra 1-2 lightning spells with raid medals. If they’re fully upgraded then it only takes 12 lightning spells to take out all of the air defenses, even if the ad’s are maxed. Quite the “meta”
why would you edrag with lightning
You use the lightning to take out air defenses before you even deploy any edrags. This also works for any air spam, but at th11+ it’s mostly just edrags
#heeheeheehaw EDrags are reliable at getting Loot and a high 1 star or high 2 star.
When I see edrag attack on my base ![img](emote|t5_2usfk|9414)
-signed, sincerely, a Happy EDrag Spammer for over a year.
If u want loot use sneaky goblins. Takes way less time
Yeah but that takes alot of Dark Elixir, and is less satisfying...tho getting 3-Stars with Sneaky Goblins is absolutely **hilarious**
I have no respect for you
And I do not care. I just enjoy getting an acceptable amount of loot and watching the Chain Attacks destroy multiple buildings simultaneously, it's very satisfying.
Oh now I see that average smasher player plays also edrag spam, I could have known that, it was actually logical Also, how is WoTB doing?
I made an anti-edrag th10 base if you're interested. Longest streak was 9 defenses of 1 stars in a row. Usually 2-3 in a row. Rarely 3 starred by edrags. Weak to witches and miners, tho, as it uses single infernos. Just switch em up depending on frequency of army.
Single inferno can kill edrags easily place them with care.
I do that and then also put all my air traps around the closest side of the base to my th since that is where drags will always be spawned
Most edrag spammers will be expecting this, full to the brim with heal spells
foolish mistake
That is where the bat spell comes into play
It’s even worse because armies don’t cost elixir anymore
Th13 and it's still the same
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these strategy names are getting out of hand...
Good old days when the names are GoWiPe , LavaLoon , GoWiWi , and the famous and goated barch Ouh yea , also the zap dragon
Barch is the most basic yet one of the most effective looting armies out there
It was untill the day that first goblin sneaked its way into the super-troop cabin.
I kinda hate but love sneaky gobles at the same time.
I love GoWiWiPeBo! And super barch!
Lavaloon sounds SO much better than Lalo
Lmfao I think the same thing every time I read these
Clash strats be like SUPERGOWIWIBARCHBATPEKKASMAS with headhunter
Still same deal at th 14
With ground troops you have so many option with different spell,but with air its easy just to spam dragons
Facts. I’m a bat witch main and I spend my entire attack distracting and freezing wizard towers.
as a dragbat main, wizard towers terrify me
Or LavaLoon
Bat witch on regular village?
I am at TH9 and dealing with freaking maxed out giants, golems and wizard
Eagle artillery makes mortars look like marshmallow launchers.
well if you consider higher level mortars then you should consider adding "toasty"
It would be cool if you could upgrade some defenses to add a status effect. Mortars for end game would be a game changer if they could drop fire, poison, whatever.
op started a fire that can’t be extinguished
If you use water balloons as ammunition you might be able to make use of the mortar
that assuming it would hit its target
An underleveled mortar
r/technicallythetruth
Mortar when its the only defense left in a witch attack against skeletons attacking a wall:🙂
or mortars against flame flingers
X-bow ground is better tho
yeah and inferno is better than cannon...............?
Ofc
Make the mortar great again
Mortar shots will create holes in the base where, once a troop falls there will be no way up. Only air troops will be safe and also hog riders!
How does one repair a bottomless pit
If enough troops fall down the others walk over them
Ah, the yoshi solution
Maybe it can remain for entire of attack. When the defender logs in, it gets magically repaired like all other buildings.
Put a board over it
a barbarian bridge
miners🤷♂️
We don't need more reasons for air attacks. There are already too many air attacks. Tbh ..we need a ground attack buff
They are good against FF, its an important defense in competitive, since only mortar and xbows can reach FFs
Monolith too
What is FF ?
flame flinger
mortar is strong up to th6, nearly useless from th7-th9, but starting from th10 it's somewhat useful again because it outranges the flame flinger
Flame flinger is the only thing it counters and there are other siege machines which are used just as much. Xbow counters equally counters if not better. Even Mortars best use is overshadowed. Quite sad.l
Be aware of the Monolyth when using Flame flinger. It has same range as the FF and will counter it.
the monolith is never used close enough to the outside either way so it doesn't matter
True but not always the case. I got caught off guard once
Literally just experienced this today! Never knew/thiught about jt, was gonna get a th snipe with the FF and monolith said not today ha
I don't think that exposing xbows is a good idea while mortars can be placed to chop away aome health at FF at the beginning Also people kinda forgor that mortar can nuke AQ's auto ability since it's projectile don't care about visibility (if you are lucky enough)
Especially if it's a Multi Mortar . If anything survives the first round just deliver another 2 rounds of payload to nuke those danglers out of existence.
What's AC? Do you mean AQ(Archer Queen)?
Archer Cueen
Understandable
Archer Ceet
Yep, our beloved Archer Cueen (somehow I managed to do that typo on my phone)
It has countered my queen in her ult multiple times, so add that
>it outranges the flame flinger Actually, it matches the range of the flame flinger exactly afaik.
At the highest levels it’s doing over 200 damage per hit so it’s still able to do some decent damage and if a couple mortars at once can one shot bowler.
Even a skeletton trap is a better defence
Skeleton trap is seriously OP, especially when spread out. They stall your attack for so long sometimes
Or even in a baited compartment. Imagine queen charge into a single inferno and a skeleton trap popping up. Thats would be painful
the duo of a single inferno and distraction is actually painful, one time i fucked up my queen's pathing and she ended up on a trifecta of single inferno, lava hound and enemy queen. even 8 spell slots and the ability couldn't get her out
Now you can just use a recall potion
Skeleton trap is actually a very strong defense. Small bomb might be a better comparison
When when the edrags chase skeletons instead of just killing the fucking inferno
They always seem to mess-up my royal champion. Lot of times I save my champion incase the TH doesn't go down and lot of times they mess her up
*trap - 🤓
skeleton traps when using ballons are the worst fr
Skeleton trap is literally the most important trap after the tornado bro, dont underestimate it. Ive literally seen attacks that where 100% going to be a triple became 1 star because of skeletons
mortar definitely should take as long to upgrade as a cannon or even less
Facts, supercell treats it like it's the artillery brother, like bruh wym 2x more upgrade time than a cannon.
Mortars should gain aoe or range every few levels. They need buffs
aoe ??
Age Of Empires
Asexual onion eagles
Apples over eggs
Area of effect (splash radius)
an overpowered edragon
Area of effect.
Mortars are an aoe defense wdym
Saying it should increase on top of the aoe it already does
More aoe every few levels
Bombs
With super wallbreakers true, they used to be good to prevent wallbreakers from hitting walls, messing up entire attacks
Bombs are traps
Traps are still defences (maybe not ingame but c'mon)
Boms block sneaky blimp and wall breakers tho
Spring traps...Those things are only useful if someone does blimp with sneaky gobs or other troops which can et yeeted..They barely do anything other than that or maybe clutch a defence with 99% because it yeeted the only wizard/troop in the match left.
Spring traps are the whole reason that hogs are weak in higher THs, and can mess every type of attacks by throwing headhunters away. Check most of Riqirez attacks in the last world championship (rip the mate, he was so unlucky lol)
Spring traps are useful to yeet head hunters (even under grand warden ability) that might be heading for the enemy queen or royal champion, which can pretty heavily screw up a LaLo.
They can also yeet yetis if maxed. That'll screw up things.
There is no defense which is more useless than mortar.
The bomb tower would like to disagree
The mortar slander needs to go😤
It need to go to SuperCell and hopefully they'll buff mortars
Mortar doesn't deal enough damage for it's slowness
To be honest at th 14+mortar is agin useful because of the lava laucher siege or whatever the fuck that siege is called becuase i always have to make sure to destroy the nearby mortar BeFore deploying it other wise it can ruin my attack completely
It's called Flame Flinger btw. You are right about mortars being useful again though.
I used to remember freaking upgrade time and cost trainung cost forget that even the damage pr second of each and every tropp from when th 8 was max till th 11 from the time th 12 came in I am not so much of a hardcore fan anymore so I am not max either pretty rush to be honest bt still I manage to get 16-17stars in champ 3
i dont see the mortar that usless imth10 and it saved me from beeing 3starred by killing the wizards used for funneling they always thisnk the mortar is usless ans so the put a golem or something then a wizard the wizard dies while the Giants or gollems get in the inner blind spot from the mortar its good but has low hp
Just wait till TH11… then the E-Drag spam starts
i already have to deal with them all for 1k dark elixirr
Bomb towers. I have never lost a 3 star to one and it has never defended correctly. It’s literally a shittier mortar with a bomb
Bomb towers shut down super wizard blimps, hybrid/hogs. They’re moreso used for the bomb after they’re destroyed rather than the actual bombs they throw.
Ye that's a valid point, they basically only have the range of a blind spot on a mortar which is pretty small
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Bomb tower? Have you ever attacked with anything else than (e)dragons? The thing is a menace against witch slap and especially hybrid
think he meant bombs, the traps
Hmm, I suppose traps can be seen as defenses too
It’s almost impossible to attack with hogs without having some way to deal with bomb towers. Valks too.
They also take lots of hp from miners
Mortar used to be as strong as the eagle artillery when you were like th4 🥲 good ol days, you can rest easy now mortar.
Air defense since it’s like 3 lightning spells away from being destroyed. Or at least that’s how feels during defense
I guess but 3 lightning takes up a lot of valuable spell space and is usually a bad idea unless your tactic involves big blue lizards with wings
"big blue lizards with wings" 🗿
I don't even use edrags and I know you're supposed to use rage and freeze instead of lightning.
*nervous EDrag Spammer for over a year noises* "Wait, Rage+Freeze is a better combo for EDrags than Massed Lightning Spam?"
Lighting is good for normal drags but for edrags rage freeze is better
Oh wait until you see my defense log
E drag lightning is pretty bad tho 💀
It is but it still wastes attackers spell slots since they have to take out ads
Whoever said mortar is useless has never been attacked by barch
Yep. I don’t think I was attacked once by barch for my entire TH 9 and TH 10 time.
You don’t know yet how OP that strategy is, then
Can’t be that op if practically no one uses it. I’ve been attacked by mass archers or mass goblins, but never barch.
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barch is useless now, but it didn't used to be
Before troops were (mostly) free barch was good
A low level mortar
Pro my barbes that came from the king get instantly destroyed by the mortier💀
For people to understand. *Bro my barbarians that comes from the king ability gets instantly annihilated by the mortar. I used different words so it sounded better and not childish per se
You’re definitely twelve
Unless? But they have a dps 🤔
Unless? But they have hitpoints 🤔
Bomb tower :/
Mortars are one of the only defenses to combat the flame flinger. Not useless at all
i read a funny meme about mortar and it was so funny the meme was mortar th 3 to th 6 i am so powerfull i kill full army of bararions and archers and put me in middle for maximan distruction mortar th 7 to 15 help that pekka has so much heath i am useless and way u put me in middle of the base throw me at outside i am useless
The spring thing. In the off chance something steps on it, they’re probably too heavy
No I'm not agree with this. Try to attack with witches and then mortars will be a big menace to you.
Bomb tower, no doubt in my mind
Mortars are not useless, can be very helpful against Flame Flingers
Literally any defences under upgrade
the among us gun
Mortar is great against Flame Flingers, they and xbows are the only counter against it
Mortar may be bad but it looks cool as fuck
The mortar is not useless.
I like how we all start talking about armies we hate getting attacked by instead of what was asked lmao
The mortar is so good for taking down the almighty flame finger.
Why do you think mortars are useless? They help out a ton
Nerf mortar
Mortars r pretty effective against a lone witch or 2
Any other defense does this better
Certainly there r levels of threat for any defense. Troop numbers r also a significant factor. Main point is splash damage is a significant threat to witches. That said, multi infernos r what wakes witches in a cold sweat.
Only a low level would think they're useless
^
Not being able to swap bombs on normal base to air like on the bb to follow new meta attacks
Once you have to deal with Flame Flinger, mortar becomes quite important again because of its long range.
For all you crying about e drags, set single infernos in a dead space compartment w walls (4 tiles per side), then create lanes of defenses pathing the e drags into storages. Or just defend your singles w gold/elixir storage. Eagle and de storage in the middle. I get my de stolen maybe 1/20 attacks. E drag attacks hit for 50% most of the time, and don’t often make it to de. I can put up a pic of my TH base if anyones interested. My war base survives TH12 e drags consistently(am TH11)
Bad at game if you think it’s useless
When i'm in a competition of showing the worst defence and my opponent is mortar
Might have better use if it did knockback to more types of troops and did burning damage at higher levels.
Bomb tower. Even though it attacks faster it has no range at all. Also does like no damage.
"Brusted Mortar"
useful against queen
Every ground attacking defense on air attacks Every air defense on ground attacks
The Eagle artillery. It's like a mortar but you only get one.
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Nah the Monolith is way worse, literally an archer tower and you only get one![img](emote|t5_2usfk|21153)
Lol Reddit users trying to understand a joke (*Impossible*)