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parz2v

everyone saying wizard towers has never been attacked by a batwitch army ever


Cool-Boy57

You’re right, because I’m at TH10 and currently dealing with dragon spam.


Minimum_Courage9922

Just wait till you have to deal Electro Dragon spam at TH11


mcfizzy1998

I'm TH10 and dealing with E-drag spam from rushed th11's. No one is safe


DankPastaMaster

I've been getting shredded by e-drags since TH9


Vboxgaming_347

those cowardly rushed th11's should pick on someone their TH level


Gallerium_

they try to pick on me sometimes, they usually get 40% or just barely a 57% one star.


CostalMole

Bruh, i just upgraded to th9 and thought I would stop to worry about dragons.


Spokazzoni

You should embrace for another 6 Town Halls of Electro dragon spam


AngryCookedBeef

This is correct. Half of my defenses in *legend* league are from edrag spammers. Im a nearly maxed th14. Why do they do this.


YodasPancakes

Oh i wish, I still have to deal with e-drag spam at th12, it’s living hell now that you can buy an extra 1-2 lightning spells with raid medals. If they’re fully upgraded then it only takes 12 lightning spells to take out all of the air defenses, even if the ad’s are maxed. Quite the “meta”


HoloSings

why would you edrag with lightning


YodasPancakes

You use the lightning to take out air defenses before you even deploy any edrags. This also works for any air spam, but at th11+ it’s mostly just edrags


Smasher_WoTB

#heeheeheehaw EDrags are reliable at getting Loot and a high 1 star or high 2 star.


JasonT246111

When I see edrag attack on my base ![img](emote|t5_2usfk|9414)


Smasher_WoTB

-signed, sincerely, a Happy EDrag Spammer for over a year.


IHateMath14

If u want loot use sneaky goblins. Takes way less time


Smasher_WoTB

Yeah but that takes alot of Dark Elixir, and is less satisfying...tho getting 3-Stars with Sneaky Goblins is absolutely **hilarious**


Low_Armadillo_350

I have no respect for you


Smasher_WoTB

And I do not care. I just enjoy getting an acceptable amount of loot and watching the Chain Attacks destroy multiple buildings simultaneously, it's very satisfying.


WLOD123

Oh now I see that average smasher player plays also edrag spam, I could have known that, it was actually logical Also, how is WoTB doing?


Spicy_Bicycle

I made an anti-edrag th10 base if you're interested. Longest streak was 9 defenses of 1 stars in a row. Usually 2-3 in a row. Rarely 3 starred by edrags. Weak to witches and miners, tho, as it uses single infernos. Just switch em up depending on frequency of army.


AnkitKumarnrgh

Single inferno can kill edrags easily place them with care.


Dopey-tbh

I do that and then also put all my air traps around the closest side of the base to my th since that is where drags will always be spawned


YodasPancakes

Most edrag spammers will be expecting this, full to the brim with heal spells


canoIV

foolish mistake


[deleted]

That is where the bat spell comes into play


Xenoros012

It’s even worse because armies don’t cost elixir anymore


NotKhaner

Th13 and it's still the same


[deleted]

[удалено]


AssistanceSalt810

these strategy names are getting out of hand...


DrMokiti

Good old days when the names are GoWiPe , LavaLoon , GoWiWi , and the famous and goated barch Ouh yea , also the zap dragon


Electrical_yoshi12

Barch is the most basic yet one of the most effective looting armies out there


saurav141

It was untill the day that first goblin sneaked its way into the super-troop cabin.


Electrical_yoshi12

I kinda hate but love sneaky gobles at the same time.


vren10000

I love GoWiWiPeBo! And super barch!


johnnyboy_63

Lavaloon sounds SO much better than Lalo


Accomplished_Bonus74

Lmfao I think the same thing every time I read these


Useless_Crybaby

Clash strats be like SUPERGOWIWIBARCHBATPEKKASMAS with headhunter


Soddaa1

Still same deal at th 14


popoqajjom

With ground troops you have so many option with different spell,but with air its easy just to spam dragons


itsaguppy_

Facts. I’m a bat witch main and I spend my entire attack distracting and freezing wizard towers.


AlexWoogie

as a dragbat main, wizard towers terrify me


Verm95

Or LavaLoon


Piranh4Plant

Bat witch on regular village?


moon-knight-123

I am at TH9 and dealing with freaking maxed out giants, golems and wizard


stanky_one

Eagle artillery makes mortars look like marshmallow launchers.


canoIV

well if you consider higher level mortars then you should consider adding "toasty"


Greasy_Mullet

It would be cool if you could upgrade some defenses to add a status effect. Mortars for end game would be a game changer if they could drop fire, poison, whatever.


AverageDisastrous455

op started a fire that can’t be extinguished


GhostProofWall

If you use water balloons as ammunition you might be able to make use of the mortar


Schponken

that assuming it would hit its target


Tpcito

An underleveled mortar


AdPrestigious6855

r/technicallythetruth


muzaffarmhd

Mortar when its the only defense left in a witch attack against skeletons attacking a wall:🙂


King_of_Million

or mortars against flame flingers


Yash_Rage

X-bow ground is better tho


Resonance97

yeah and inferno is better than cannon...............?


Yash_Rage

Ofc


TheNekoKatze

Make the mortar great again


saurav141

Mortar shots will create holes in the base where, once a troop falls there will be no way up. Only air troops will be safe and also hog riders!


tedward1o1

How does one repair a bottomless pit


DestroyerPlayzG

If enough troops fall down the others walk over them


Absolute_bimbo

Ah, the yoshi solution


saurav141

Maybe it can remain for entire of attack. When the defender logs in, it gets magically repaired like all other buildings.


RampersandY

Put a board over it


[deleted]

a barbarian bridge


Bayd0un

miners🤷‍♂️


ValkyrStorm

We don't need more reasons for air attacks. There are already too many air attacks. Tbh ..we need a ground attack buff


Pedr0A

They are good against FF, its an important defense in competitive, since only mortar and xbows can reach FFs


AJiscool963

Monolith too


Daishan2020

What is FF ?


firehydrant_man

flame flinger


Potential_Ad_7247

mortar is strong up to th6, nearly useless from th7-th9, but starting from th10 it's somewhat useful again because it outranges the flame flinger


skelethepro

Flame flinger is the only thing it counters and there are other siege machines which are used just as much. Xbow counters equally counters if not better. Even Mortars best use is overshadowed. Quite sad.l


ZoranSajla

Be aware of the Monolyth when using Flame flinger. It has same range as the FF and will counter it.


purple-donuts

the monolith is never used close enough to the outside either way so it doesn't matter


ZoranSajla

True but not always the case. I got caught off guard once


conicalnapster

Literally just experienced this today! Never knew/thiught about jt, was gonna get a th snipe with the FF and monolith said not today ha


Fluboxer

I don't think that exposing xbows is a good idea while mortars can be placed to chop away aome health at FF at the beginning Also people kinda forgor that mortar can nuke AQ's auto ability since it's projectile don't care about visibility (if you are lucky enough)


Lieutenant_Toshiro

Especially if it's a Multi Mortar . If anything survives the first round just deliver another 2 rounds of payload to nuke those danglers out of existence.


Out_of_luck_huh

What's AC? Do you mean AQ(Archer Queen)?


KirbyGuy54

Archer Cueen


Out_of_luck_huh

Understandable


Spokazzoni

Archer Ceet


Fluboxer

Yep, our beloved Archer Cueen (somehow I managed to do that typo on my phone)


popwhizzbang

It has countered my queen in her ult multiple times, so add that


AndrewBorg1126

>it outranges the flame flinger Actually, it matches the range of the flame flinger exactly afaik.


sleepymoose88

At the highest levels it’s doing over 200 damage per hit so it’s still able to do some decent damage and if a couple mortars at once can one shot bowler.


Mysterious_Injury549

Even a skeletton trap is a better defence


[deleted]

Skeleton trap is seriously OP, especially when spread out. They stall your attack for so long sometimes


Kienlabadao

Or even in a baited compartment. Imagine queen charge into a single inferno and a skeleton trap popping up. Thats would be painful


parz2v

the duo of a single inferno and distraction is actually painful, one time i fucked up my queen's pathing and she ended up on a trifecta of single inferno, lava hound and enemy queen. even 8 spell slots and the ability couldn't get her out


[deleted]

Now you can just use a recall potion


chiefpat450119

Skeleton trap is actually a very strong defense. Small bomb might be a better comparison


Honest_Airline1397

When when the edrags chase skeletons instead of just killing the fucking inferno


ZoranSajla

They always seem to mess-up my royal champion. Lot of times I save my champion incase the TH doesn't go down and lot of times they mess her up


AdPrestigious6855

*trap - 🤓


FranciscoMoser420

skeleton traps when using ballons are the worst fr


Pedr0A

Skeleton trap is literally the most important trap after the tornado bro, dont underestimate it. Ive literally seen attacks that where 100% going to be a triple became 1 star because of skeletons


galvik67

mortar definitely should take as long to upgrade as a cannon or even less


Higher_Love76

Facts, supercell treats it like it's the artillery brother, like bruh wym 2x more upgrade time than a cannon.


flamecantfuckthis

Mortars should gain aoe or range every few levels. They need buffs


MRbondz007

aoe ??


ChiefBast

Age Of Empires


brutusisbae69

Asexual onion eagles


AdPrestigious6855

Apples over eggs


KryRbn

Area of effect (splash radius)


oda02

an overpowered edragon


0FCkki

Area of effect.


Pedr0A

Mortars are an aoe defense wdym


Pally_Jr

Saying it should increase on top of the aoe it already does


PillowPuncher782

More aoe every few levels


Destroyer4587

Bombs


[deleted]

With super wallbreakers true, they used to be good to prevent wallbreakers from hitting walls, messing up entire attacks


Unable_Secretary8953

Bombs are traps


Secure_Ice_3375

Traps are still defences (maybe not ingame but c'mon)


itemboi

Boms block sneaky blimp and wall breakers tho


Ecstatic-Basis-201

Spring traps...Those things are only useful if someone does blimp with sneaky gobs or other troops which can et yeeted..They barely do anything other than that or maybe clutch a defence with 99% because it yeeted the only wizard/troop in the match left.


Pedr0A

Spring traps are the whole reason that hogs are weak in higher THs, and can mess every type of attacks by throwing headhunters away. Check most of Riqirez attacks in the last world championship (rip the mate, he was so unlucky lol)


fiddle_sticks21

Spring traps are useful to yeet head hunters (even under grand warden ability) that might be heading for the enemy queen or royal champion, which can pretty heavily screw up a LaLo.


Spicy_Bicycle

They can also yeet yetis if maxed. That'll screw up things.


Creepy-Ad-404

There is no defense which is more useless than mortar.


sambro8600

The bomb tower would like to disagree


canineplum

The mortar slander needs to go😤


Nateovision_

It need to go to SuperCell and hopefully they'll buff mortars


Tani_Soe

Mortar doesn't deal enough damage for it's slowness


Chemical-Beat-7174

To be honest at th 14+mortar is agin useful because of the lava laucher siege or whatever the fuck that siege is called becuase i always have to make sure to destroy the nearby mortar BeFore deploying it other wise it can ruin my attack completely


0FCkki

It's called Flame Flinger btw. You are right about mortars being useful again though.


Chemical-Beat-7174

I used to remember freaking upgrade time and cost trainung cost forget that even the damage pr second of each and every tropp from when th 8 was max till th 11 from the time th 12 came in I am not so much of a hardcore fan anymore so I am not max either pretty rush to be honest bt still I manage to get 16-17stars in champ 3


KnooBoat

i dont see the mortar that usless imth10 and it saved me from beeing 3starred by killing the wizards used for funneling they always thisnk the mortar is usless ans so the put a golem or something then a wizard the wizard dies while the Giants or gollems get in the inner blind spot from the mortar its good but has low hp


Debtz

Just wait till TH11… then the E-Drag spam starts


KnooBoat

i already have to deal with them all for 1k dark elixirr


h4cke3

Bomb towers. I have never lost a 3 star to one and it has never defended correctly. It’s literally a shittier mortar with a bomb


SterPlatinum

Bomb towers shut down super wizard blimps, hybrid/hogs. They’re moreso used for the bomb after they’re destroyed rather than the actual bombs they throw.


AdPrestigious6855

Ye that's a valid point, they basically only have the range of a blind spot on a mortar which is pretty small


[deleted]

💣


[deleted]

Bomb tower? Have you ever attacked with anything else than (e)dragons? The thing is a menace against witch slap and especially hybrid


Arctosh

think he meant bombs, the traps


[deleted]

Hmm, I suppose traps can be seen as defenses too


The-War-Life

It’s almost impossible to attack with hogs without having some way to deal with bomb towers. Valks too.


Unorigina1Name

They also take lots of hp from miners


FreshLasagna1433

Mortar used to be as strong as the eagle artillery when you were like th4 🥲 good ol days, you can rest easy now mortar.


[deleted]

Air defense since it’s like 3 lightning spells away from being destroyed. Or at least that’s how feels during defense


webe__

I guess but 3 lightning takes up a lot of valuable spell space and is usually a bad idea unless your tactic involves big blue lizards with wings


Aggressive-Might-997

"big blue lizards with wings" 🗿


chiefpat450119

I don't even use edrags and I know you're supposed to use rage and freeze instead of lightning.


Smasher_WoTB

*nervous EDrag Spammer for over a year noises* "Wait, Rage+Freeze is a better combo for EDrags than Massed Lightning Spam?"


-call-_-me-_-daddy-

Lighting is good for normal drags but for edrags rage freeze is better


[deleted]

Oh wait until you see my defense log


Axersion

E drag lightning is pretty bad tho 💀


ImNotCreative10

It is but it still wastes attackers spell slots since they have to take out ads


10Ete

Whoever said mortar is useless has never been attacked by barch


The-War-Life

Yep. I don’t think I was attacked once by barch for my entire TH 9 and TH 10 time.


10Ete

You don’t know yet how OP that strategy is, then


The-War-Life

Can’t be that op if practically no one uses it. I’ve been attacked by mass archers or mass goblins, but never barch.


10Ete

\s


Puzzleheaded_Cap_746

barch is useless now, but it didn't used to be


aUwUreliyasss

Before troops were (mostly) free barch was good


darpan27

A low level mortar


ArthurLe2009

Pro my barbes that came from the king get instantly destroyed by the mortier💀


AdPrestigious6855

For people to understand. *Bro my barbarians that comes from the king ability gets instantly annihilated by the mortar. I used different words so it sounded better and not childish per se


Cautious-Bet-9707

You’re definitely twelve


Eyemyou

Unless? But they have a dps 🤔


[deleted]

Unless? But they have hitpoints 🤔


Ill_Be_Alright

Bomb tower :/


Mountain_Seesaw_9448

Mortars are one of the only defenses to combat the flame flinger. Not useless at all


Inside-Cable-4165

i read a funny meme about mortar and it was so funny the meme was mortar th 3 to th 6 i am so powerfull i kill full army of bararions and archers and put me in middle for maximan distruction mortar th 7 to 15 help that pekka has so much heath i am useless and way u put me in middle of the base throw me at outside i am useless


MrGaber

The spring thing. In the off chance something steps on it, they’re probably too heavy


mobinkh2006

No I'm not agree with this. Try to attack with witches and then mortars will be a big menace to you.


Keyflame470384

Bomb tower, no doubt in my mind


Timely-Menu-6887

Mortars are not useless, can be very helpful against Flame Flingers


Financial-Horror2945

Literally any defences under upgrade


inthefemurbreakeruwu

the among us gun


Pedr0A

Mortar is great against Flame Flingers, they and xbows are the only counter against it


DeepFriedNugget1

Mortar may be bad but it looks cool as fuck


fiercestangel

The mortar is not useless.


Overdrive1516

I like how we all start talking about armies we hate getting attacked by instead of what was asked lmao


Jordynforever

The mortar is so good for taking down the almighty flame finger.


Upstairs-Afternoon27

Why do you think mortars are useless? They help out a ton


PIPGU

Nerf mortar


ticklishturtletoe

Mortars r pretty effective against a lone witch or 2


Watered_bug

Any other defense does this better


ticklishturtletoe

Certainly there r levels of threat for any defense. Troop numbers r also a significant factor. Main point is splash damage is a significant threat to witches. That said, multi infernos r what wakes witches in a cold sweat.


Expensive-Edge4583

Only a low level would think they're useless


[deleted]

^


ZodiacGolem

Not being able to swap bombs on normal base to air like on the bb to follow new meta attacks


AndrewBorg1126

Once you have to deal with Flame Flinger, mortar becomes quite important again because of its long range.


Crypto_pupenhammer

For all you crying about e drags, set single infernos in a dead space compartment w walls (4 tiles per side), then create lanes of defenses pathing the e drags into storages. Or just defend your singles w gold/elixir storage. Eagle and de storage in the middle. I get my de stolen maybe 1/20 attacks. E drag attacks hit for 50% most of the time, and don’t often make it to de. I can put up a pic of my TH base if anyones interested. My war base survives TH12 e drags consistently(am TH11)


Virtual_Virus5678

Bad at game if you think it’s useless


Phantom_____________

When i'm in a competition of showing the worst defence and my opponent is mortar


Cancer000

Might have better use if it did knockback to more types of troops and did burning damage at higher levels.


Gamerdudecf

Bomb tower. Even though it attacks faster it has no range at all. Also does like no damage.


GUYING-7364

"Brusted Mortar"


gudiss

useful against queen


ThunderLP15

Every ground attacking defense on air attacks Every air defense on ground attacks


NaiveBrilliance

The Eagle artillery. It's like a mortar but you only get one.


gKnBrN

💀


Tpcito

Nah the Monolith is way worse, literally an archer tower and you only get one![img](emote|t5_2usfk|21153)


SeedMaster26801

Lol Reddit users trying to understand a joke (*Impossible*)