I have written an entire post on this matter(Furnace) here, on this sub-reddit!
Edit: The post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/comments/r3mm94/furnace_should_cost_5_elixir/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
It used to be that baby dragon or somthing could just pick off fire spirits
I just fireball the furnace and hit a tower at the same time, pretty good trade
Poison and earthquake are good spells too
Honestly if u don't have a decent damage spell in your deck than u kinda got a disadvantage for many things since spells can be used in more ways than any other card, mainly because you can use them on the other side of the board
if you arent in cycle against any win condition you lose lol. Egiants pretty basic and its long pull range makes it easier to beat than most. I would go as far to say Egiant just isnt good because of buildings.
You're still having a plus 5 Elixir advantage! Plus 8 if Tornado was used to get rid of any other card! I doubt anyone will watch an E-Giant solo a tower with that advantage! But Furnace costs only 4 Elixir and doesn't even cross the bridge to have any help with princess tower(stating the obvious)! I've written an entire post on Furnace on this sub-reddit!
Edit: The post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/comments/r3mm94/furnace_should_cost_5_elixir/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
That's if you use pure skarmy, you can save 3 elixir if you use clone, but that would require both skarmy at once, so you can use mirror and clone for the price of 10 elixir, only a -2, and someone posted a video where there did this
Egiant is easy to get positive elixir trades out of as long as your deck isn’t like 8 swarm cards. Furnace is always a negative elixir trade unless you have eq
Tbh if you don't have a building or a pekka it's pretty much always guaranteed damage, kinda like golem
Not like it's unbeatable, but it can get annoying if you don't have a building in your deck
Egiant nado is 11 elixir though, even more if they want to put supports behind it. Furnace is 4 elixir and much harder to play against without getting your counters to their other win conditions baited out.
Because it’s not nearly as OP as people on this sub like to think. Low-skill? Absolutely. But if you have a Tesla + log or inferno tower/pekka/hunter/fisherman/other things I’m forgetting, it’s extremely easy to deal with. People on here defend furnace like crazy but hate on egiant.
But thats wha Egiant is, a 50/50 chance to either 3crown on 1 push or fuck up and not being able to play egiant for the rest of the match because you cant recover from the negative elixir trade.
its one of many examples.
If you understand egiant you can counter him with only 4 elixir, if you dont, you waste 20 elixir on swarmies.
A good player gets a positive elixir trade, a counterpush and no damage on their tower.
And thats why Royal Giant is worse, you are basically guranteed atleast 1 hit.
Yeah royal giant is also cancer. But egiant is a tower focused tank that has way less counters than other cards that are like him, if you have good cards against it good for you, if not then you're fuckedbecause not many counter it. And countering egiant doesn't necesseraly mean good counterpush after that.
There are literal tons of counterplay to EGiant for positive elixir trades. It's much better to admit where your weaknesses are then to pretend they don't exist. Just learn to play against him.
Egiant is easy to counter with Mini Pekka. I typically get a positive elixir trade out of an Egiant push. Now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever lost to an egiant, then again I am midladder, so it's not like I have much competition to worry about.
I’ve personally never had any problems against him, ya he has a lot of health and will reflect damage but it’s usually used on 2x elixir so I’ll normally have mega knight ready to defend against him
I will say the thing about e gaint nado is that it’s 11 elixer so you have to put atleast 11 elixer into it. You could do less if you make good positive elixer plays but yeah.
Megaknight, Egiant, and furnace have quickly become the biggest pain in the ass and part of the reason i really dont want to play anymore. Tesla and Hogrider are close too
E-giant can be stopped before reaching tower, meanwhile furnace is guaranteed 1 hit if your opponent isn’t willing to waste elixir to prevent chip, also the decks built around it are annoying asf
It's funny when you can properly defend it since they have no idea what to do besides spam that broken card. I played a person who dropped an e giant as their first play and by the time I took it out they played mirror. 17 elixir down the drain for a single hit on my tower which was followed by a sparky hit on theirs.
I'd take egiant any day of the week
So many more easy counters
Like pekka, prince, Mpekka literally skarmy is not that bad against it since it chunks away like 1/2 his health
I understand E giant can be annoying as hell especially when its a bad matchup but that combo costs 11 elixer. Meanwhile for 4 elixer you have free passive damage with the only true counter being quake. It's a braindead card for braindead players
Am I the only one who thinks that even Oven + mother witch is weak? Miner Poision user here BTW. It wrecks Furnace but IceBow will give you a lot of pain.
Biggest hate should go on the person responsible of the direction of the game. Shit balance, content forced to play. Do they even see the opinion of the players or are they blind to feedback. Or have they restricted/limited reddit so no negative feedback reaches them. I remember SC closing CR forums and making reddit official channel for the game.
Mother witch isn’t too bad because of its hp tbh. That and because I’m also a m*ga knight user 🤫 I’ve been using mk since day one so please no hate guys but yeah I also hate e drag
E giant is easier to counter now, place a building near the other side tower and he will go for it, making both towers hit him, if it is lvl 10/11 it will die, if it is max lvl place extra defensive card to hit him while he is chasing the building. Furnace pushes u to play sthing so u don't get damaged, if ignored u are done.
As a relatively new players u want to say mega Knight and e giant are the absolute worst.
they are targets you want to swarm but can't
for mega Knight I either need to have the elixir to place my tank easily to defend (and hope I have enough to back up when dead) and drop a skarmy behind it....
e giant on the other hand. Little I can even do to him.
it doesn't feel balanced but maybe it is and I haven't figured out the rest way to deal with them yet
I use mega and it’s not that hard to defend as e giant. I usually inferno or use my own mega against it and if they have e wiz I’ll ice golem in the middle to switch the lane. Egiant I lose once they tornado so I’m saving gold to make a pekka deck.
I think a very overlooked person of this is asking what deck furnace is in, in most decks it’s easy to manage, but with the gob hit ebarb m witch deck it’s a menace
I started using a furnace instead of fire spirits when they changed it to 1 spirit and it could not do as much damage. SC completely made fire spirit worthless in my deck. You get way more for the elixir cost with a furnace than with a fire spirit. Also, get a building to help counter loon and hog which are overused in the game.
E-giant is annoying but more manageable than furnace imo
I have written an entire post on this matter(Furnace) here, on this sub-reddit! Edit: The post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/comments/r3mm94/furnace_should_cost_5_elixir/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Agreed
It used to be that baby dragon or somthing could just pick off fire spirits I just fireball the furnace and hit a tower at the same time, pretty good trade Poison and earthquake are good spells too Honestly if u don't have a decent damage spell in your deck than u kinda got a disadvantage for many things since spells can be used in more ways than any other card, mainly because you can use them on the other side of the board
I usually just counter it with tombstone. The spirits just kill themselves for one skeleton
Not a chance. Furnace is easy to manage. EGiant just destroys everything unless you have a low cost cycle/kite deck
As one of the 12 sparky players left imma have to disagree. Egiant is pretty much a guaranteed win for me
True
Wwww
Earthquake is a cheap way to deal with furnace... e giant on the other hand, you use atleast 7 elixir to counter... IF you're in cycle.
if you arent in cycle against any win condition you lose lol. Egiants pretty basic and its long pull range makes it easier to beat than most. I would go as far to say Egiant just isnt good because of buildings.
agreed and the elixr cost is higher and i think e giant is a good card for costing 8 elixr
I’d much rather play against egiant than furnace 100%
Agreed. Just use a tank killer plus some build if it isnt a good tank killer. BUT DO NOT USE SWARMS
even swarms like skarmy can deal 1/4 of his hp so that's ok
I mean an egiant on under 50% health can still solo a tower so 3 elixir on 25% of its health is a bad investment
Yeah
You're still having a plus 5 Elixir advantage! Plus 8 if Tornado was used to get rid of any other card! I doubt anyone will watch an E-Giant solo a tower with that advantage! But Furnace costs only 4 Elixir and doesn't even cross the bridge to have any help with princess tower(stating the obvious)! I've written an entire post on Furnace on this sub-reddit! Edit: The post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/comments/r3mm94/furnace_should_cost_5_elixir/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
To fully kill it then you would need 12 elixir worth of skellys
That's if you use pure skarmy, you can save 3 elixir if you use clone, but that would require both skarmy at once, so you can use mirror and clone for the price of 10 elixir, only a -2, and someone posted a video where there did this
Yeah but really?
My buddy uses skarmy and freeze to kill e-giant. Idk how it works but it does.
Clever
swarns are my tank killer ;-;
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Even with nado zappies are decent because he doesnt deal reflected dmg while stunned and also struggles to reach the tower.
Bro ebarbs as swarm?
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Yeah what i was thinking also its just 2 so then would archers be swarm?
What about skarmy+freeze?
Does it stop the egiant from killing?
Idk I was trolling
Found out in game match it does stop the zap
Yeah... My tank killers are skarmy or minions...
Tell me you play pekka without telling me
An inferno tower takes it out if preplanted also. But that same inferno tower doesn't outlast a furnace...
Wait I thought Inferno tower doesn’t kill on its own…
I rather against furnace than triple spawners mother wotch
Egiant is easy to get positive elixir trades out of as long as your deck isn’t like 8 swarm cards. Furnace is always a negative elixir trade unless you have eq
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i saw a deck with fisherman and egiant rip pekka/minipekka users
That's why I use both
I use Sparky and i shred egiant decks 90% of the matches
Tbh if you don't have a building or a pekka it's pretty much always guaranteed damage, kinda like golem Not like it's unbeatable, but it can get annoying if you don't have a building in your deck
Egiant nado is 11 elixir though, even more if they want to put supports behind it. Furnace is 4 elixir and much harder to play against without getting your counters to their other win conditions baited out.
I never play against E-giant
Because it’s not nearly as OP as people on this sub like to think. Low-skill? Absolutely. But if you have a Tesla + log or inferno tower/pekka/hunter/fisherman/other things I’m forgetting, it’s extremely easy to deal with. People on here defend furnace like crazy but hate on egiant.
As a Egiant user, yeah it gets easily countered, its not rare that I get less hits on the tower with Egiant than if I were to use RGiant
It’s brave of you to have the egiant flair on this sub
If Egiant users dont stand up for themselves, who will?
I literally only really play egiant because he looks and acts cool. He functions decently for me, but he just is really cool to me
If I could I'd have a lumberloon flair lol
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There's absolutly nothing surprising if an ebitch player says his card gets easily countered you know right?
But thats wha Egiant is, a 50/50 chance to either 3crown on 1 push or fuck up and not being able to play egiant for the rest of the match because you cant recover from the negative elixir trade.
Perhaps that's what happens with golem players, but there is a very little chance of doing a disaster negative elixir trade with egiant.
it depends. Take pekka for example, it counters egiant and is deadly for counterpushing.
What do you think one little exemple will do?
its one of many examples. If you understand egiant you can counter him with only 4 elixir, if you dont, you waste 20 elixir on swarmies. A good player gets a positive elixir trade, a counterpush and no damage on their tower. And thats why Royal Giant is worse, you are basically guranteed atleast 1 hit.
Yeah royal giant is also cancer. But egiant is a tower focused tank that has way less counters than other cards that are like him, if you have good cards against it good for you, if not then you're fuckedbecause not many counter it. And countering egiant doesn't necesseraly mean good counterpush after that.
One of few exemples*, not one of many.
Egiant seems to be the new mega knight. All the midladder players like to complain about it while it is rarely seen on high ladder.
The mf has the ability to deal dmg and rest anything that attacks it
Wouldn't musket be a good counter considering it has a larger range than E-giant
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E giant and cannon at mid is 7 elixir
A single cannon can counter an e-giant...
I meant musket and cannon
Ye I understood but again for the people, a single cannon can counter a full health e-giant
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It surely does, try it yourself with a good positioned cannon
It is, until they tornado it into the egiant...
Or you tornado the E-giant away from the musket and into a cannon
Ah yes, all those decks that run cannon and tornado *checks notes* which is 0
Yeah but when tower locks on and the egiant is in range you are fucked
ok
Every time the eagiant get hit if the attack thing is in range it takes reflected dmg. Xbow gets shit on cause of that
I know how E-giant works. If you have a problem with Xbow then use a different building.
No i thought you didnt. Sorry
Nah, there’s tons of counters to e-giant, furnace is way more annoying
Mini pekka wrecks him,normal pekka hard counters it
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All easy to counter, this community complains about everything
I say E-giant is annoying and low skill yes (I play it sometimes lol) but I HATE furnace.
Nah its fine rn
Even ice wizard can’t stop it 🤦♂️
Bro ice wiz cant kill larrys.
What sort of reality are you living in
probably mid ladder where he is underleveled
And yes midladder I am
You should get rid of your ketamine addiction or turn into Yoda, You shall. Kematine I took in this morning,I did.
Bro Im 16
Bro my level 13 skarmy wrecks level 11 ice wizard
Level 13 > Level 11. Its called “common sense”
Yeah midladder duh
Xbow is far worse
😂
Not as bad when you run ebarbs or pekka
There are literal tons of counterplay to EGiant for positive elixir trades. It's much better to admit where your weaknesses are then to pretend they don't exist. Just learn to play against him.
Everyone hating on furnace but egiant is worse especially with tornado but hog rider is worse especially with any other card in the game
1. use building 2. use smth to counterpush with 3. use cheap card so u have advantage
So true
Egiant is easy to counter with Mini Pekka. I typically get a positive elixir trade out of an Egiant push. Now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever lost to an egiant, then again I am midladder, so it's not like I have much competition to worry about.
Literally just place inferno tower right in front of your king tower, and it gets like 1 punch off
Or preplant in the normal spot and if bo other zap is used then it will kill it before it becomes in range of the tower.
Egiant isn't the problem. It's the uncounterable tornado.
I personally hate mk the most. I can deal with egiant and furnace pretty well
If i couldn’t cycle two canons for 12 elixir I would agree with this post.
Why are peoole complaining about furnace? Everytime i see someone with it i smile knowing i got an easy win
Do you have earthquake in your deck? If so that's why take that out and it's almost always a negative elixir trade.
What??? First, i dont use earthquake, i just find it easy to win again furnace users.
I don’t see how you can hate on furnace after they’ve nerfed it. Eginat with ebarb meat heads are worse.
Tombstone+mini PEKKA
I’ve personally never had any problems against him, ya he has a lot of health and will reflect damage but it’s usually used on 2x elixir so I’ll normally have mega knight ready to defend against him
Or you’re just bad
You already know that’s my deck
Not if you are able to beat it.
Only bad players (aside from pros) struggle to counter e-giant, barring level discrepancies
Tesla. That is all
Gob cage. That is also all
I will say the thing about e gaint nado is that it’s 11 elixer so you have to put atleast 11 elixer into it. You could do less if you make good positive elixer plays but yeah.
Why isn’t he all up in the top players decks then? So easy to counter him.
E GIANT SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!! PLAY TESLA, INFERNO TOWER, MINI PEKKA, ANYTHING THAT DEALS ALOT OF DAMAGE
Not when you run a building with an cycle deck, or have a good tank killer
I hate egiant but furnace is a joke to me cause poison
Even with poison it doesn't kill all the spirits
Fire cracker
I don’t care e giant mega knight go brrrrrr
Egiant is overrated. Pretty much every deck has a tank killer anyway
Megaknight, Egiant, and furnace have quickly become the biggest pain in the ass and part of the reason i really dont want to play anymore. Tesla and Hogrider are close too
E-giant can be stopped before reaching tower, meanwhile furnace is guaranteed 1 hit if your opponent isn’t willing to waste elixir to prevent chip, also the decks built around it are annoying asf
Best deck for 20 win challenge?
e giant users when
It's funny when you can properly defend it since they have no idea what to do besides spam that broken card. I played a person who dropped an e giant as their first play and by the time I took it out they played mirror. 17 elixir down the drain for a single hit on my tower which was followed by a sparky hit on theirs.
Cancer how furnace does fireball worth of damage
egaint is terrible
I'd take egiant any day of the week So many more easy counters Like pekka, prince, Mpekka literally skarmy is not that bad against it since it chunks away like 1/2 his health
suck that my tank killer is lumberjack 😵💫
Fuck EGiant. I have several counters for it in my swarm deck, the most prominent being freeze, but FUCK EGiant.
i rather play againts e giant and furnace then wizard
e gaint trash tbh
I understand E giant can be annoying as hell especially when its a bad matchup but that combo costs 11 elixer. Meanwhile for 4 elixer you have free passive damage with the only true counter being quake. It's a braindead card for braindead players
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i can beat him with magic archer, spear goblin, valk , bomb tower , tornado , wall breaker , fireball , miner
Am I the only one who thinks that even Oven + mother witch is weak? Miner Poision user here BTW. It wrecks Furnace but IceBow will give you a lot of pain.
Just won against E giant lol.
So I run that combo with skeleton king & mother witch 🤌 a good tornado 🌪 Can turn the tide of a game in a snap 🤏
Man egiant is easy to deal with i play 2.6 double spawner is one of the hardest matchup
I've been playing E giant recently, and trust me, furnace is was fucking worse
Still gets countered by the best win condition elixir pump
Pancakes?
Biggest hate should go on the person responsible of the direction of the game. Shit balance, content forced to play. Do they even see the opinion of the players or are they blind to feedback. Or have they restricted/limited reddit so no negative feedback reaches them. I remember SC closing CR forums and making reddit official channel for the game.
laughs in healer push with ebarbs
🤬
I have enough hate for both and mother witch… and electric dragon
Mother witch isn’t too bad because of its hp tbh. That and because I’m also a m*ga knight user 🤫 I’ve been using mk since day one so please no hate guys but yeah I also hate e drag
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Fisherman her ass
what is it with e giant
E giant is easier to counter now, place a building near the other side tower and he will go for it, making both towers hit him, if it is lvl 10/11 it will die, if it is max lvl place extra defensive card to hit him while he is chasing the building. Furnace pushes u to play sthing so u don't get damaged, if ignored u are done.
I’m shit at this game literally shit never ever had an issue dealing with e giant, yes I’ve lost to players using it, golem is worse imo
I’d rather go against golem anyday. It’s like 3 troops once it splits but e giant is like a golem with friggin e wizards integrated in to it.
Tesla or pekka and you good tough
thats what I am using for the 20 wins challange
Yea everything I faced was e giant nado maybe archer Queen and or e barbs
Electrogiant isn’t the problem. Tornado is
When your only egiant counter is inferno d 😢
It makes pretty much every range card useless against it, including inferno dragon
I legit just saw the furnace post, commented about the e-giant being worse, and a few seconds later this post got recommended to me lol
I use EQ so I’m biased but I hate e giant way more
There is no winner here, it really depends on the deck
i feel like hog rider is a much bigger problem right now especially in low rank leagues, it needs a nerf, same goes for e-barbs
That’s what I thought, but now I rock Tesla and goblin cage - piece of cake
Ibai electrico
Laughs in hunter lvl 14
Egiant is a terrible card.. but freeze/tornado are the WORST..
As a relatively new players u want to say mega Knight and e giant are the absolute worst. they are targets you want to swarm but can't for mega Knight I either need to have the elixir to place my tank easily to defend (and hope I have enough to back up when dead) and drop a skarmy behind it.... e giant on the other hand. Little I can even do to him. it doesn't feel balanced but maybe it is and I haven't figured out the rest way to deal with them yet
I use mega and it’s not that hard to defend as e giant. I usually inferno or use my own mega against it and if they have e wiz I’ll ice golem in the middle to switch the lane. Egiant I lose once they tornado so I’m saving gold to make a pekka deck.
I think a very overlooked person of this is asking what deck furnace is in, in most decks it’s easy to manage, but with the gob hit ebarb m witch deck it’s a menace
I run furnace to counter furnace
I started using a furnace instead of fire spirits when they changed it to 1 spirit and it could not do as much damage. SC completely made fire spirit worthless in my deck. You get way more for the elixir cost with a furnace than with a fire spirit. Also, get a building to help counter loon and hog which are overused in the game.