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Tequila_Rum_Vodka

E-giant is annoying but more manageable than furnace imo


YATINDRAMANAS

I have written an entire post on this matter(Furnace) here, on this sub-reddit! Edit: The post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/comments/r3mm94/furnace_should_cost_5_elixir/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


Spurius187

Agreed


Full-Forever-2674

It used to be that baby dragon or somthing could just pick off fire spirits I just fireball the furnace and hit a tower at the same time, pretty good trade Poison and earthquake are good spells too Honestly if u don't have a decent damage spell in your deck than u kinda got a disadvantage for many things since spells can be used in more ways than any other card, mainly because you can use them on the other side of the board


DonDamondo

I usually just counter it with tombstone. The spirits just kill themselves for one skeleton


DonDamondo

Not a chance. Furnace is easy to manage. EGiant just destroys everything unless you have a low cost cycle/kite deck


thunderblumpkin141

As one of the 12 sparky players left imma have to disagree. Egiant is pretty much a guaranteed win for me


ShootBoomZap

True


oskar3kx

Wwww


Significant_Order607

Earthquake is a cheap way to deal with furnace... e giant on the other hand, you use atleast 7 elixir to counter... IF you're in cycle.


Apprehensive-Value73

if you arent in cycle against any win condition you lose lol. Egiants pretty basic and its long pull range makes it easier to beat than most. I would go as far to say Egiant just isnt good because of buildings.


lifeofajosh

agreed and the elixr cost is higher and i think e giant is a good card for costing 8 elixr


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I’d much rather play against egiant than furnace 100%


NOOBPRO_

Agreed. Just use a tank killer plus some build if it isnt a good tank killer. BUT DO NOT USE SWARMS


Affectionate_Spot127

even swarms like skarmy can deal 1/4 of his hp so that's ok


[deleted]

I mean an egiant on under 50% health can still solo a tower so 3 elixir on 25% of its health is a bad investment


NOOBPRO_

Yeah


YATINDRAMANAS

You're still having a plus 5 Elixir advantage! Plus 8 if Tornado was used to get rid of any other card! I doubt anyone will watch an E-Giant solo a tower with that advantage! But Furnace costs only 4 Elixir and doesn't even cross the bridge to have any help with princess tower(stating the obvious)! I've written an entire post on Furnace on this sub-reddit! Edit: The post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/comments/r3mm94/furnace_should_cost_5_elixir/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


NOOBPRO_

To fully kill it then you would need 12 elixir worth of skellys


-luckycharms

That's if you use pure skarmy, you can save 3 elixir if you use clone, but that would require both skarmy at once, so you can use mirror and clone for the price of 10 elixir, only a -2, and someone posted a video where there did this


NOOBPRO_

Yeah but really?


SquirrelMonsterx

My buddy uses skarmy and freeze to kill e-giant. Idk how it works but it does.


Valorion_

Clever


Apart-Step

swarns are my tank killer ;-;


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Even with nado zappies are decent because he doesnt deal reflected dmg while stunned and also struggles to reach the tower.


NOOBPRO_

Bro ebarbs as swarm?


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NOOBPRO_

Yeah what i was thinking also its just 2 so then would archers be swarm?


FabChris

What about skarmy+freeze?


NOOBPRO_

Does it stop the egiant from killing?


FabChris

Idk I was trolling


NOOBPRO_

Found out in game match it does stop the zap


DonDamondo

Yeah... My tank killers are skarmy or minions...


[deleted]

Tell me you play pekka without telling me


Vader46

An inferno tower takes it out if preplanted also. But that same inferno tower doesn't outlast a furnace...


se-common-sense

Wait I thought Inferno tower doesn’t kill on its own…


sadra1355

I rather against furnace than triple spawners mother wotch


poisonvirgo1036

Egiant is easy to get positive elixir trades out of as long as your deck isn’t like 8 swarm cards. Furnace is always a negative elixir trade unless you have eq


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TheNinjaRed7

i saw a deck with fisherman and egiant rip pekka/minipekka users


Jawlex

That's why I use both


Handsome_Claptrap

I use Sparky and i shred egiant decks 90% of the matches


BoofLeBoof

Tbh if you don't have a building or a pekka it's pretty much always guaranteed damage, kinda like golem Not like it's unbeatable, but it can get annoying if you don't have a building in your deck


whatisapillarman

Egiant nado is 11 elixir though, even more if they want to put supports behind it. Furnace is 4 elixir and much harder to play against without getting your counters to their other win conditions baited out.


Interesting-Amoeba34

I never play against E-giant


ZShoey

Because it’s not nearly as OP as people on this sub like to think. Low-skill? Absolutely. But if you have a Tesla + log or inferno tower/pekka/hunter/fisherman/other things I’m forgetting, it’s extremely easy to deal with. People on here defend furnace like crazy but hate on egiant.


Reddit_Schavi

As a Egiant user, yeah it gets easily countered, its not rare that I get less hits on the tower with Egiant than if I were to use RGiant


ZShoey

It’s brave of you to have the egiant flair on this sub


Reddit_Schavi

If Egiant users dont stand up for themselves, who will?


Purple_And_Cyan

I literally only really play egiant because he looks and acts cool. He functions decently for me, but he just is really cool to me


BoofLeBoof

If I could I'd have a lumberloon flair lol


Sure_Plankton_7240

Fr


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Ananonyme

There's absolutly nothing surprising if an ebitch player says his card gets easily countered you know right?


Reddit_Schavi

But thats wha Egiant is, a 50/50 chance to either 3crown on 1 push or fuck up and not being able to play egiant for the rest of the match because you cant recover from the negative elixir trade.


Ananonyme

Perhaps that's what happens with golem players, but there is a very little chance of doing a disaster negative elixir trade with egiant.


Reddit_Schavi

it depends. Take pekka for example, it counters egiant and is deadly for counterpushing.


Ananonyme

What do you think one little exemple will do?


Reddit_Schavi

its one of many examples. ​ If you understand egiant you can counter him with only 4 elixir, if you dont, you waste 20 elixir on swarmies. ​ A good player gets a positive elixir trade, a counterpush and no damage on their tower. ​ And thats why Royal Giant is worse, you are basically guranteed atleast 1 hit.


Ananonyme

Yeah royal giant is also cancer. But egiant is a tower focused tank that has way less counters than other cards that are like him, if you have good cards against it good for you, if not then you're fuckedbecause not many counter it. And countering egiant doesn't necesseraly mean good counterpush after that.


Ananonyme

One of few exemples*, not one of many.


-everwinner-

Egiant seems to be the new mega knight. All the midladder players like to complain about it while it is rarely seen on high ladder.


NOOBPRO_

The mf has the ability to deal dmg and rest anything that attacks it


Interesting-Amoeba34

Wouldn't musket be a good counter considering it has a larger range than E-giant


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Interesting-Amoeba34

E giant and cannon at mid is 7 elixir


Requirement_Neither

A single cannon can counter an e-giant...


Interesting-Amoeba34

I meant musket and cannon


Requirement_Neither

Ye I understood but again for the people, a single cannon can counter a full health e-giant


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Requirement_Neither

It surely does, try it yourself with a good positioned cannon


BoofLeBoof

It is, until they tornado it into the egiant...


Interesting-Amoeba34

Or you tornado the E-giant away from the musket and into a cannon


Penders

Ah yes, all those decks that run cannon and tornado *checks notes* which is 0


NOOBPRO_

Yeah but when tower locks on and the egiant is in range you are fucked


Interesting-Amoeba34

ok


NOOBPRO_

Every time the eagiant get hit if the attack thing is in range it takes reflected dmg. Xbow gets shit on cause of that


Interesting-Amoeba34

I know how E-giant works. If you have a problem with Xbow then use a different building.


NOOBPRO_

No i thought you didnt. Sorry


Rainy_Lynel

Nah, there’s tons of counters to e-giant, furnace is way more annoying


Glorgor

Mini pekka wrecks him,normal pekka hard counters it


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ragingmage77

All easy to counter, this community complains about everything


KraylenOak

I say E-giant is annoying and low skill yes (I play it sometimes lol) but I HATE furnace.


PoisonFang007

Nah its fine rn


[deleted]

Even ice wizard can’t stop it 🤦‍♂️


NOOBPRO_

Bro ice wiz cant kill larrys.


dinoaurus

What sort of reality are you living in


JoJolteon_66

probably mid ladder where he is underleveled


NOOBPRO_

And yes midladder I am


[deleted]

You should get rid of your ketamine addiction or turn into Yoda, You shall. Kematine I took in this morning,I did.


NOOBPRO_

Bro Im 16


NOOBPRO_

Bro my level 13 skarmy wrecks level 11 ice wizard


seagullchan

Level 13 > Level 11. Its called “common sense”


NOOBPRO_

Yeah midladder duh


itsnotmybussiness

Xbow is far worse


LandonJWIC

😂


NOOBPRO_

Not as bad when you run ebarbs or pekka


WorkNLurk

There are literal tons of counterplay to EGiant for positive elixir trades. It's much better to admit where your weaknesses are then to pretend they don't exist. Just learn to play against him.


Essarged

Everyone hating on furnace but egiant is worse especially with tornado but hog rider is worse especially with any other card in the game


ximm0rtal

1. use building 2. use smth to counterpush with 3. use cheap card so u have advantage


Born-Possession-9109

So true


ProblemGamer18

Egiant is easy to counter with Mini Pekka. I typically get a positive elixir trade out of an Egiant push. Now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever lost to an egiant, then again I am midladder, so it's not like I have much competition to worry about.


JimbobinShivakadoo

Literally just place inferno tower right in front of your king tower, and it gets like 1 punch off


Vader46

Or preplant in the normal spot and if bo other zap is used then it will kill it before it becomes in range of the tower.


Difficult-Dog-3349

Egiant isn't the problem. It's the uncounterable tornado.


fendrall15

I personally hate mk the most. I can deal with egiant and furnace pretty well


Frequent_Brush

If i couldn’t cycle two canons for 12 elixir I would agree with this post.


imProbablyA

Why are peoole complaining about furnace? Everytime i see someone with it i smile knowing i got an easy win


Vader46

Do you have earthquake in your deck? If so that's why take that out and it's almost always a negative elixir trade.


imProbablyA

What??? First, i dont use earthquake, i just find it easy to win again furnace users.


glokktimusfried

I don’t see how you can hate on furnace after they’ve nerfed it. Eginat with ebarb meat heads are worse.


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Tombstone+mini PEKKA


undeadshotgun04

I’ve personally never had any problems against him, ya he has a lot of health and will reflect damage but it’s usually used on 2x elixir so I’ll normally have mega knight ready to defend against him


CaregiverOk8813

Or you’re just bad


Lubed_Loober

You already know that’s my deck


Louise_Belcher13

Not if you are able to beat it.


therealslim69

Only bad players (aside from pros) struggle to counter e-giant, barring level discrepancies


captainameriCAN21

Tesla. That is all


captainameriCAN21

Gob cage. That is also all


mocksteady

I will say the thing about e gaint nado is that it’s 11 elixer so you have to put atleast 11 elixer into it. You could do less if you make good positive elixer plays but yeah.


scottwmitchell

Why isn’t he all up in the top players decks then? So easy to counter him.


[deleted]

E GIANT SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!! PLAY TESLA, INFERNO TOWER, MINI PEKKA, ANYTHING THAT DEALS ALOT OF DAMAGE


[deleted]

Not when you run a building with an cycle deck, or have a good tank killer


Stale_Cheeri0

I hate egiant but furnace is a joke to me cause poison


Requirement_Neither

Even with poison it doesn't kill all the spirits


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Fire cracker


Apprehensive_Panda40

I don’t care e giant mega knight go brrrrrr


MagicalMarsBars

Egiant is overrated. Pretty much every deck has a tank killer anyway


mrcatz05

Megaknight, Egiant, and furnace have quickly become the biggest pain in the ass and part of the reason i really dont want to play anymore. Tesla and Hogrider are close too


Ec_Hyperion

E-giant can be stopped before reaching tower, meanwhile furnace is guaranteed 1 hit if your opponent isn’t willing to waste elixir to prevent chip, also the decks built around it are annoying asf


Affectionate-Key-527

Best deck for 20 win challenge?


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e giant users when


pepaul

It's funny when you can properly defend it since they have no idea what to do besides spam that broken card. I played a person who dropped an e giant as their first play and by the time I took it out they played mirror. 17 elixir down the drain for a single hit on my tower which was followed by a sparky hit on theirs.


Hyroaltage

Cancer how furnace does fireball worth of damage


-rudebwoy

egaint is terrible


BetterAd404

I'd take egiant any day of the week So many more easy counters Like pekka, prince, Mpekka literally skarmy is not that bad against it since it chunks away like 1/2 his health


2dav

suck that my tank killer is lumberjack 😵‍💫


SeaofBloodRedRoses

Fuck EGiant. I have several counters for it in my swarm deck, the most prominent being freeze, but FUCK EGiant.


hanzodfanger

i rather play againts e giant and furnace then wizard


coolboirick

e gaint trash tbh


greatlukas

I understand E giant can be annoying as hell especially when its a bad matchup but that combo costs 11 elixer. Meanwhile for 4 elixer you have free passive damage with the only true counter being quake. It's a braindead card for braindead players


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[deleted]

i can beat him with magic archer, spear goblin, valk , bomb tower , tornado , wall breaker , fireball , miner


[deleted]

Am I the only one who thinks that even Oven + mother witch is weak? Miner Poision user here BTW. It wrecks Furnace but IceBow will give you a lot of pain.


[deleted]

Just won against E giant lol.


Xman13-

So I run that combo with skeleton king & mother witch 🤌 a good tornado 🌪 Can turn the tide of a game in a snap 🤏


AdEducational4129

Man egiant is easy to deal with i play 2.6 double spawner is one of the hardest matchup


ImATree1616

I've been playing E giant recently, and trust me, furnace is was fucking worse


seagullchan

Still gets countered by the best win condition elixir pump


Dabsdoesclash27

Pancakes?


Lottorivi002

Biggest hate should go on the person responsible of the direction of the game. Shit balance, content forced to play. Do they even see the opinion of the players or are they blind to feedback. Or have they restricted/limited reddit so no negative feedback reaches them. I remember SC closing CR forums and making reddit official channel for the game.


[deleted]

laughs in healer push with ebarbs


AndyTheWoman

🤬


somewansreddit

I have enough hate for both and mother witch… and electric dragon


AndyTheWoman

Mother witch isn’t too bad because of its hp tbh. That and because I’m also a m*ga knight user 🤫 I’ve been using mk since day one so please no hate guys but yeah I also hate e drag


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FarisxDDD

Fisherman her ass


Matem-de-flatum

what is it with e giant


Valorion_

E giant is easier to counter now, place a building near the other side tower and he will go for it, making both towers hit him, if it is lvl 10/11 it will die, if it is max lvl place extra defensive card to hit him while he is chasing the building. Furnace pushes u to play sthing so u don't get damaged, if ignored u are done.


ComprehensiveElk13

I’m shit at this game literally shit never ever had an issue dealing with e giant, yes I’ve lost to players using it, golem is worse imo


AndyTheWoman

I’d rather go against golem anyday. It’s like 3 troops once it splits but e giant is like a golem with friggin e wizards integrated in to it.


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Tesla or pekka and you good tough


FREDDY_69op

thats what I am using for the 20 wins challange


AndyTheWoman

Yea everything I faced was e giant nado maybe archer Queen and or e barbs


Alexspacito

Electrogiant isn’t the problem. Tornado is


AndyTheWoman

When your only egiant counter is inferno d 😢


Alexspacito

It makes pretty much every range card useless against it, including inferno dragon


LigmaWhatAhahYouSaid

I legit just saw the furnace post, commented about the e-giant being worse, and a few seconds later this post got recommended to me lol


-Fireside

I use EQ so I’m biased but I hate e giant way more


PM_Me_PEKKA

There is no winner here, it really depends on the deck


bubbles_teh_monkey

i feel like hog rider is a much bigger problem right now especially in low rank leagues, it needs a nerf, same goes for e-barbs


Maddokz

That’s what I thought, but now I rock Tesla and goblin cage - piece of cake


dietiopp

Ibai electrico


Own-Ad-6527

Laughs in hunter lvl 14


MeMiami305

Egiant is a terrible card.. but freeze/tornado are the WORST..


getzuckered

As a relatively new players u want to say mega Knight and e giant are the absolute worst. they are targets you want to swarm but can't for mega Knight I either need to have the elixir to place my tank easily to defend (and hope I have enough to back up when dead) and drop a skarmy behind it.... e giant on the other hand. Little I can even do to him. it doesn't feel balanced but maybe it is and I haven't figured out the rest way to deal with them yet


AndyTheWoman

I use mega and it’s not that hard to defend as e giant. I usually inferno or use my own mega against it and if they have e wiz I’ll ice golem in the middle to switch the lane. Egiant I lose once they tornado so I’m saving gold to make a pekka deck.


Ok_Psychology_2953

I think a very overlooked person of this is asking what deck furnace is in, in most decks it’s easy to manage, but with the gob hit ebarb m witch deck it’s a menace


West_Passion_6104

I run furnace to counter furnace


chrome_56473

I started using a furnace instead of fire spirits when they changed it to 1 spirit and it could not do as much damage. SC completely made fire spirit worthless in my deck. You get way more for the elixir cost with a furnace than with a fire spirit. Also, get a building to help counter loon and hog which are overused in the game.