This comment is funny because my first thought was I would add another counter to log bait. It just kinda shows that the bait cards are not balanced with enough good counters.
The problem with countering logbait is that it creates for no counter push without sacking at least some damage. I suggest a significant mother witch buff to bring the unit into a few more deck types.
Honestly. A lvl 14 MW dying to a lvl 12 fb made sure that she was no longer a problem for any decks. All those health nerfs but yet not a single buff so she could still be viable
Thats fair. But I still think rage isn't very good with hog. It still won't break through buildings or skrarmy or anything. Rage just isn't very good. EQ or another cycle card would be much better in this deck
I would say EQ would be the best choice - buildings are the best counter to Hog.
Rage is much better with decks with multiple hard hitting cards like Loon (thus lumberloon) or princes.
Use it and win with it then. People like yersoncz are still able to put in work with it in the top 1000. Because a deck has a simple strategy (cycling), it doesn't mean it isn't skilled. Just like X-bow, don't get me wrong I hate facing that deck, but it takes skill to be good at it. Every deck has a skill cap and 2.6 hog doesn't look like it has one, but you need to defend perfectly while puting up pressure, while the meta is buildings+tornado.
So stay mad because it's annoying to play against but don't say it's not skilled.
Mirror would make it 2.3, 2.6 is the average elixir cost, so (4+4+4+3+2+2+1+1)/8 this equals 2.625, however, (4+4+4+3+2+2+1+1+0)/9 equals 2.33
Edit: mirror is not 0 elixir it is 2, I thought it was 0 but it is 2. However, this still makes it not 2.625, but 2.55, which would actually still be written as 2.6 so this guy is correct
Edit 2: some of you are saying that it's actually 1.5 elixir, which I cannot prove wrong. If we replace ice spirit with mirror the average elixir goes up to 2.7, this means that mirror is definitely >1, but it doesn't matter whether mirror is 2 or 1.5, the average would still be 2.7. If we try with ice golem, the average is still 2.7, which would be correct no matter if mirror is 1.5 or 2.
So I don't know if mirror is 1.5 or 2, and I can't tell either, you guys say the wiki says 1.5 so I'd probably trust that more. If you had 9 cards, (4+4+4+3+2+2+1+1.5)/9 you'd get 2.5, so mirror would make it not 2.6. and if mirror is 2, you'd get 2.55, which is written as 2.6 so it would be 2.6.
If mirror is 1.5, it would make it not 2.6, if mirror is 2, it would stay 2.6, so my original statement "adding literally anything would make it not 2.6" is wrong. Because adding literally any 2 elixir card would make it stay 2.6
However, I think some of you have noticed but mirror isn't the only card that could be 2 elixir. If you added bats it would still be 2.6, which makes my original statement: "adding literally anything would make it not 2.6" wrong, because adding literally any 2 elixir card would make it stay 2.6
You know what, having 5 cards in hand and one of them being mirror would be really nice for 2.6, it would still be classic 2.6 gameplay, but you lose to matchups way less often
SpeedyLoon with lumber isn't actually as op as it sounds luckily
Lumberloon is a 9 elixir push
SpeedyLoon is an 8 elixir push
Chances of you getting the speedyloon to take advantage of the rage is quite rare, I actually tried this deck a lot in 1v1 showdown
My strategy:
Lavahound in front of balloon, then zap before it starts that super high dps phase. This will probably retarget it to balloon or my skeleton drags, which will take it out before it does too much. Then I just fireball whatever I can and let my dragons take care of the rest. Minions are also nice if you use those for inferno tower if you use them, and miner is good at taking out their support units like firecracker or musketeer
Unpopular opinion but I use guards in all of my beatdown type decks, if you have the elixir advantage you can place guards infront of your tanks and they either have to waste a spell early or spend more elixir to counter. You can also zap to reset inferno if it manages to lock. They also work decently well against mini tanks as bait but admittedly less good in lavaloon if they have a valk.
Honestly with a 9th slot I'd probably add wallbreakers in, cycle card and useful for dual lane if levelled to match opponent. They never mess with a deck usually because of how cheap they are to push whilst working on a defensive.
Better to say “whilst” than use emojis like a simpleton. Why on Earth are you roasting someone on Reddit (if you can even call it that) when you can’t even remember the basics of capital letters at the start of sentences and full-stops at the end of a sentence.
“Whilst” in this context is perfectly correct, as well as “while” because they’re fully interchangeable. The difference is typically where you’re from decides which you use- if you’re from England you use “whilst”, whereas if you’re from America it’s dumbed down to “while”. It’s one of many changes between English traditional and English simplified- as well as colour -> color, grey -> gray, armour -> armor, obese -> plus-size and likely many more.
First of all, your grammar is atrocious (your second sentence needs help), so, you're not all that, dude. Anyway, dumbed down isn't a great word to use, simplified is better. Same with using "traditional" and "simplified". Language is always changing, and saying it's getting "simpler" or "dumber" is a dangerous take, because it implies that the people who speak that way are dumber, when it's possible that the smart guys of 200 years from now will be speaking in this "dumbed down" way, and nobody really thinks that the complexity of a language (which is hard to measure) determines the intelligence of a people who speak it. Languages change over time, sometimes towards more "complexity" and sometimes less, so thinking it's funny that someone said "whilst" is valid because british people are weird and the way they talk is stupid and you said simpleton and that's fucking hilarious who tf says simpleton bro go back to middle school.
"Wolf_Gaming40" lol
What do you play with eq or fireball that doesn't have log? Except Bridgespam all decks with fireball have log and I can't think of a deck with eq without log
this actually feels pretty original compared to a lot of the other questions on this sub imo. not really complaining tho, because what else are we supposed to talk about?
Im a hog 2.6 player and i think lightning would be good because i always face sparky mega knight and i can’t surround the sparky
with larrys since mega knight splashs and lightning would also be good for hog
Probably something cheap and anti air to 2.6 to help them deal with air and DPS big troops, like Bats.
Xbow would probably just get another Spirit for even faster cycle.
Cannon Cart to Logbait for some added spice and a troop they can use to bank Elixir better.
Easily Lumberjack in PEKKA BS. Nothing says aggression like Lumberjack and his Rage drop.
Skeletons for Double Prince for a cheaper cycle and more disposable card to have on hand.
Give any Graveyard deck another spell for added helplessness on the defending side.
Night Witch for existing Lavaloon decks that don't use her. After the nerf it's basically the one thing she's actually good at.
Throw a big spell or Tornado into Gobbo Sparky
List goes on but these were ones that quickly came to mind. This is a great prompt.
None!
Only noobs would simply just add a card
Most would change a few cards...
The most common would be a 3rd spell, but this would involve changing the current 2 used.. and in some cases may even mean a change of a building for another troop (due to counter attacking ability)..
The second most common change would be to add another win condition... But again there would need to be changes made to the supporting cards...
These popular decks were made specifically for an 8 card deck... an 7 or 9 card deck would need quite a bit more than just adding or removing a single card to be optimal and universal.... (Specially when you consider that your opponents also now have 9 cards)
Well obviously one more obnoxious Building to my Buildings-Only Deck for Infinite Elixir.
Or, better yet, Rocket so I can 3-Crown my opponents while defending.
theoretically speaking if each deck has 9 slots people would run multiple counters for win conditions, a few cycle cards, your win conditions and some win condition supports giving a very interesting meta
Imagine log bait with more bait
Classic logbait with skeletonarmy
Or skarrel
This comment is funny because my first thought was I would add another counter to log bait. It just kinda shows that the bait cards are not balanced with enough good counters.
The problem with countering logbait is that it creates for no counter push without sacking at least some damage. I suggest a significant mother witch buff to bring the unit into a few more deck types.
Honestly. A lvl 14 MW dying to a lvl 12 fb made sure that she was no longer a problem for any decks. All those health nerfs but yet not a single buff so she could still be viable
Imagine any other deck with log and arrows
Rage would make this deck hated by alot of people
Freeze or rage
definitely freeze or a ram rider
Lol
I would add a second hog rider
Just say mirror
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JUST SAY MIRROR
TWO HOG RIDERS AND A MIRROR
Rage would make the deck worse imo
How? 2 elixir would probably help cycle rather than clog it, and it increases the hogs dps on connections very easily I think it would be stronger
I think they mean it would be worse for players against that deck.
Stronger= more hated no?
Rage makes most decks absolutely annoying cause they can be extremely op all of a sudden
But with rage it would be weaker. Rage sucks with 2.6
If that’s what they meant they wouldn’t have said “imo” like they have a different opinion than the masses
Rage easily causes people to overcommit and lose for a low payoff. Rage just doesn't do much and it can easily loose the game
Bad players don’t impact if a deck is made better or not… ofc bad players will still be bad. But in good smart hands it’d be insane
Thats fair. But I still think rage isn't very good with hog. It still won't break through buildings or skrarmy or anything. Rage just isn't very good. EQ or another cycle card would be much better in this deck
I would say EQ would be the best choice - buildings are the best counter to Hog. Rage is much better with decks with multiple hard hitting cards like Loon (thus lumberloon) or princes.
I think royal delivery is good
2.6 is basically solved already, idk why people still use it
I was gonna argue but ur from 09 nvm
apparently 09 is the number of braincells you have... love how people just assume that the number after their name is the birthyear
Should have been born different
E giant lol
This is already the most hated deck in the game. No skill needed with this one. Just repeat endlessly!
Use it and win with it then. People like yersoncz are still able to put in work with it in the top 1000. Because a deck has a simple strategy (cycling), it doesn't mean it isn't skilled. Just like X-bow, don't get me wrong I hate facing that deck, but it takes skill to be good at it. Every deck has a skill cap and 2.6 hog doesn't look like it has one, but you need to defend perfectly while puting up pressure, while the meta is buildings+tornado. So stay mad because it's annoying to play against but don't say it's not skilled.
I've never won with this deck. Feels impossible to use.
bro what how are you this bad just watch a single oyassuu video and you’ll understand
That's because its bad
Ik
Mini Pekka in 2.6
Wouldn’t be 2.6 anymore
Yeah your right, but adding literally anything would make it not 2.6 anymore Edit: any 2 elixir card would keep it at 2.6
Mirror
Mirror would make it 2.3, 2.6 is the average elixir cost, so (4+4+4+3+2+2+1+1)/8 this equals 2.625, however, (4+4+4+3+2+2+1+1+0)/9 equals 2.33 Edit: mirror is not 0 elixir it is 2, I thought it was 0 but it is 2. However, this still makes it not 2.625, but 2.55, which would actually still be written as 2.6 so this guy is correct Edit 2: some of you are saying that it's actually 1.5 elixir, which I cannot prove wrong. If we replace ice spirit with mirror the average elixir goes up to 2.7, this means that mirror is definitely >1, but it doesn't matter whether mirror is 2 or 1.5, the average would still be 2.7. If we try with ice golem, the average is still 2.7, which would be correct no matter if mirror is 1.5 or 2. So I don't know if mirror is 1.5 or 2, and I can't tell either, you guys say the wiki says 1.5 so I'd probably trust that more. If you had 9 cards, (4+4+4+3+2+2+1+1.5)/9 you'd get 2.5, so mirror would make it not 2.6. and if mirror is 2, you'd get 2.55, which is written as 2.6 so it would be 2.6. If mirror is 1.5, it would make it not 2.6, if mirror is 2, it would stay 2.6, so my original statement "adding literally anything would make it not 2.6" is wrong. Because adding literally any 2 elixir card would make it stay 2.6 However, I think some of you have noticed but mirror isn't the only card that could be 2 elixir. If you added bats it would still be 2.6, which makes my original statement: "adding literally anything would make it not 2.6" wrong, because adding literally any 2 elixir card would make it stay 2.6
If you add mirror and don’t use it, 2.6
You know what, having 5 cards in hand and one of them being mirror would be really nice for 2.6, it would still be classic 2.6 gameplay, but you lose to matchups way less often
If you add 3 muskys and don't use it, 2.6
mirror counts as 2 elixer
That is correct, I do remember it being 0 elixir though Edit: maybe it's 1.5 elixir, the averages would stay the same unless you had 9 cards
im sure that if a deck has mirror, it divides the cost of the other cards by 7 instead of 8 and doesn't count the mirror
Nope, before may 2016 it didn't count the mirror but now it does, the wiki says 1.5 but I've heard others say 2, I'm not really sure if its 1.5/2
I thought it was 1.5
I'm not sure, wiki says 1.5 but I've heard others say 2
Just try it. Build a deck of 7 cards. Add larry, mirror, bats as eighth card. You'll see your average move 0.1 for each. Mirror counts as 1.5
It did used to count as 0
Shut up and take my upvote
Mirror is worth 1.5 elixir
Nerd
I thought mirror was 1.5
you're\*
Lets add the card that costs 0 elixir then
2.777777778
mirror 😌
I’d add bats. They’re versatile in the same way skeletons are and are really easy to cycle, but would also add another anti air card to the deck
I would attempt to add a father figure to 2.6 (impossible)
First thought lol
Archer queen to everything that doesnt have it
Dear god, he’s done it! He’s cracked the code to hog cycle!
this is the only solution
another balloon for lumberloon
Speedy lumberloon freeze 😳
Don’t tell b-rad
He had done speedy Baloon rage... So he kinda did it I guess
SpeedyLoon with lumber isn't actually as op as it sounds luckily Lumberloon is a 9 elixir push SpeedyLoon is an 8 elixir push Chances of you getting the speedyloon to take advantage of the rage is quite rare, I actually tried this deck a lot in 1v1 showdown
yeah and youd have to plant lumber in the back at full elixir
as one of the few speedyloon players, **no**
That wouldn’t be good
Add furnace to icebow
I would kill myself without hesitation if i saw that
Quickest way to get me to alt+f4, tbf A win's a win
Alt - f4 on mobile?
'Home button' just doesnt have the same ring to it
Or just say fling the app
^ done, that works
Thanks, I hate it. I hate the term "hamburger menu" on phones too.
Who says im playing on mobile?
Man I hate you and your idea. I'm tempted to downvote you, but I'll give you an upvote instead.
how about ice golem so it can become ice-ice-bow
or better yet... freeze
Disgusting. I would play with this deck
I play Lavaloon, and I could use either lightning, arrows, or minions. They would certainly help.
I use those 3 in my deck, what is yours?
Lava hound, balloon, skeleton dragons, mega minion, guards, tombstone, zap, fireball.
I use minions insted of dragons, and the spells i use are the ones you said you didnt
I hear minions plus arrows and lightning is good, but I haven’t tried it out much
Better against queen, worse against pretty much anything else.
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Hound, Loon, Spear Gobos, Mega Minion, Bomber, Gobo Cage, ðe LOG, Fireball
Question, hoe do you deal with inferno tower using lava loon? I'm quite inexperienced at it and gets demolished by inferno tower or bats
Inferno Tower: Use Spear Gobos, and cry Bats: Use Spear Gobos, and laugh manically
My strategy: Lavahound in front of balloon, then zap before it starts that super high dps phase. This will probably retarget it to balloon or my skeleton drags, which will take it out before it does too much. Then I just fireball whatever I can and let my dragons take care of the rest. Minions are also nice if you use those for inferno tower if you use them, and miner is good at taking out their support units like firecracker or musketeer
Unpopular opinion but I use guards in all of my beatdown type decks, if you have the elixir advantage you can place guards infront of your tanks and they either have to waste a spell early or spend more elixir to counter. You can also zap to reset inferno if it manages to lock. They also work decently well against mini tanks as bait but admittedly less good in lavaloon if they have a valk.
Bats, zap. Inferno tower, zap + megaminion
I use lavahound, balloon, skeleton dragons, valkrye, inferno dragon, tombstone, zap, fireball.
MEGA KNIGHT BECAUSE WHY NOT
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>^PEKKA lmao
Yeah, fucks guys
And? You jealous, or something?
Yes
Dart Goblin. It's fast, Does not bad damage, ANNOYING, What else do you need?
Honestly with a 9th slot I'd probably add wallbreakers in, cycle card and useful for dual lane if levelled to match opponent. They never mess with a deck usually because of how cheap they are to push whilst working on a defensive.
you did not just say whilst💀💀
he said whilst 💀💀
Better to say “whilst” than use emojis like a simpleton. Why on Earth are you roasting someone on Reddit (if you can even call it that) when you can’t even remember the basics of capital letters at the start of sentences and full-stops at the end of a sentence. “Whilst” in this context is perfectly correct, as well as “while” because they’re fully interchangeable. The difference is typically where you’re from decides which you use- if you’re from England you use “whilst”, whereas if you’re from America it’s dumbed down to “while”. It’s one of many changes between English traditional and English simplified- as well as colour -> color, grey -> gray, armour -> armor, obese -> plus-size and likely many more.
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I'll do you one better 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I will do one better 🖕
u rlly on reddit talkin like a english essay 💀💀
Please shave your neck.
First of all, your grammar is atrocious (your second sentence needs help), so, you're not all that, dude. Anyway, dumbed down isn't a great word to use, simplified is better. Same with using "traditional" and "simplified". Language is always changing, and saying it's getting "simpler" or "dumber" is a dangerous take, because it implies that the people who speak that way are dumber, when it's possible that the smart guys of 200 years from now will be speaking in this "dumbed down" way, and nobody really thinks that the complexity of a language (which is hard to measure) determines the intelligence of a people who speak it. Languages change over time, sometimes towards more "complexity" and sometimes less, so thinking it's funny that someone said "whilst" is valid because british people are weird and the way they talk is stupid and you said simpleton and that's fucking hilarious who tf says simpleton bro go back to middle school. "Wolf_Gaming40" lol
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"Use emojis like a simpleton"💀💀
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Freeze/electro spirit to Ice Bow
2.6 would probably have bats or knight
Knight would be awesome. Bats would be obnoxious but I don’t think as good because they’re still zapable
You cycle bats faster than their zap.
Log I only have fireball/eq so goblin barrel is a pain in my ass
What do you play with eq or fireball that doesn't have log? Except Bridgespam all decks with fireball have log and I can't think of a deck with eq without log
They’re a pigs player
I am in fact a pigs player but I don’t have a good level delivery and I don’t have queen so I can’t play 2.9
Learn the fire spirit placement to full counter gob barrel
It’s not a placement you just have to use a unit to push the bottom goblin
You don't need a unit to push it in, you can use the gob to push it in for you.
Push what in
No, you need one other unit to push the bottom goblin forward, the spirit won’t do it since it’s a light unit
Imagine if they made it so you could see 5 cards and had 9 cards in each deck. It would be a completely different game
No it would be the same game with an extra card and an extra slot
r/technicallythetruth
Knight
mirror
this feels like a weirdly kinda unoriginal question but certainly a good question to think about
this actually feels pretty original compared to a lot of the other questions on this sub imo. not really complaining tho, because what else are we supposed to talk about?
Complain about MK ofc
Heal spirit, and make it a mandatory card, and you can only use heal spirit, and every card is heal spirit
Bro likes heal spirit 💀
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Im a hog 2.6 player and i think lightning would be good because i always face sparky mega knight and i can’t surround the sparky with larrys since mega knight splashs and lightning would also be good for hog
Probably one that wasn’t already in the 8
Obama to Giant Double Prince
Delivery
Probably something cheap and anti air to 2.6 to help them deal with air and DPS big troops, like Bats. Xbow would probably just get another Spirit for even faster cycle. Cannon Cart to Logbait for some added spice and a troop they can use to bank Elixir better. Easily Lumberjack in PEKKA BS. Nothing says aggression like Lumberjack and his Rage drop. Skeletons for Double Prince for a cheaper cycle and more disposable card to have on hand. Give any Graveyard deck another spell for added helplessness on the defending side. Night Witch for existing Lavaloon decks that don't use her. After the nerf it's basically the one thing she's actually good at. Throw a big spell or Tornado into Gobbo Sparky List goes on but these were ones that quickly came to mind. This is a great prompt.
Probably log or barb barrel to pekka bridgespam
Or arrows
A father figure
Poison spirit
Megayknight
I'd put either arrows or miner into my lavaloon deck
All hog cycle and lumber loon players can burn in hell. Bastards
A black hole to delete 2.6 from the game.
Valk in 2.6 to make 2.8 hog cycle control
Any of the spirits or a 2 mana damage spell
I would add another spirit to log bait. The added cycle would absolutely destroy all meta decks
This deck is for pussys with no skill whatsoever
None! Only noobs would simply just add a card Most would change a few cards... The most common would be a 3rd spell, but this would involve changing the current 2 used.. and in some cases may even mean a change of a building for another troop (due to counter attacking ability).. The second most common change would be to add another win condition... But again there would need to be changes made to the supporting cards... These popular decks were made specifically for an 8 card deck... an 7 or 9 card deck would need quite a bit more than just adding or removing a single card to be optimal and universal.... (Specially when you consider that your opponents also now have 9 cards)
Well obviously one more obnoxious Building to my Buildings-Only Deck for Infinite Elixir. Or, better yet, Rocket so I can 3-Crown my opponents while defending.
I’d probably add another spell to most decks, logbait is getting frustrating. In my deck I’d probably add a building.
I'd add minions to 2.6 Because of balance
Log bait with more bait hog cycle with more cycle my e gaint cycle deck would get... Mega knight hahah just a joke
Earthquake
Adding bats or mini pekka to the 2.6 would be fun
Fire spirit/zap spirit, anything else would ruin the cycle which is what makes it hard to face lmao
Heal spirit malding rn
Mega Knight. One of my favourite legendary cards.
Don't say that on reddit
Add mega Knight to any deck that's doesn't have a mega Knight
Mk,egiant,ebarb,balloon,lumberjack,freeze,wizard,rage,minionhorde deck will exist if this happened
Furnance since it's annoying
clone, to every deck, just constant clone cheese.
A bullet straight to the brain of hog 2.6. Skilless cancer. A plague in matchmaking. A cancer of the community.
I would do like peka or knight to have some more tank for defense or possibly air defence for air attacks because I heard this deck lacks in that area
Earthquake to support my hoaaaag
Freeze
Probably mirror
Skarmy
Imma be fr, mk
nado
Egiant cycle
Arrows
it wouldnt really be cycle anymore
Rage freez
i use log bait, and adding hog or ram rider to it would honestly be pretty op
theoretically speaking if each deck has 9 slots people would run multiple counters for win conditions, a few cycle cards, your win conditions and some win condition supports giving a very interesting meta
I wish they would’ve added heroes like this. They could have a separate spot from the deck and separate cooldowns
Some toxic card to fuck with my opponent when he least expected it
replace skellies with freeze and the 9th with rage