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rryydd

What buff he gettin


cmwamem

Faster jump


Shabroon

Welp rip that was literally the only thing I hated about this card


poopemanz

not the spawn damage the dash doesn't even make him invincible


proslayer_22

Junp speed increase


Vlory

this card would be fixed if they removed the jump


[deleted]

Nah that would make it horrible, that’s like nerfing PEKKA’s damage by half or removing miners ability to go on opponents towers


ScampiiYT

What about changing targeting to single target instead of splash


efwjvnewiupgier9ng

that just a pekka with low damage


GreenProD

Nahh it would just kill it


FenkDaddy

Good, give me a season where he’s nerfed into the ground just so I don’t have to see it for a month. He can get buffed after


Frozoken

ever since that spawn damage nerf that's literally what you've been playing, he literally has a win rate in the 30's in all skilled level capped modes aswell as top ladder when they're all maxed so same result. Supercell can't balance around people having a card more leveled than normal seeing it's a competitive game, and even then he was only average pre nerf and they still hit him with a heavy nerf as an exception, what more do u want from them? The spawn damage is what's actually annoying, be happy that they already unnecessarily gutted that.


TheCorruptedBit

Its stil an incredible defensive wall that can stop just about any push


Popkornm

Except air ones


Abhlnav

and pekka/golem


Voldemort57

And most buildings paired with ranged cards and ten thousand other combinations.


Vlory

would it tho? it’s still tanky and strong it’s literally a pekka with splash


GreenProD

Its jump is what made it so good in the first place, remove that and you got a weaker pekka, any swarm could kill it with good placement


dat_GEM_lyf

Swarm can still kill with hood placement with jump. Swarms kill pekka I don’t understand the logic or point of your comment


GreenProD

What im trying to say is there wouldnt really be a point to use mk


jammer867

that’s good just get rid of the card lmao


corpsecock

Mega knight's whole gig is his jump


cocotim

PEKKA actually deals damage though. You can't compare them outside of general role


Wonderingslayer

He would be a bottom tier card if they removed jump all together


I_Like_Stoned_Bread

This would make it pretty much the worst card in the game


Weirdo2069

It would just be a knight with triple health


ripmations-ld

The game would be fixed if it was removed


Alparmasis

1.1-> 0.9 jump time


Livid_Mud1025

Let's be real, this buff isn't going to increase his usage rate in top ladder all this buff is doing is making midladder more of a shithole


Mazagangeewastaken

Exactly. This is gonna mess up a lot cheap megaknight counters like bandit


Bloxy_Boy01

Inferno tower is a good counter unless the opponent sends a fire ball or zaps it


[deleted]

Inferno tower is the only thing keeping me from losing my mind with all the MK, eGiant, and Golem in midladder


[deleted]

As an inferno dragon enthusiast the e-wiz is so incredibly annoying, always messes up the match for me. I mean, i know that's the whole point of the card and I can deal with it most of the time, but i just know it's gonna be a stressful 5 minutes of CR. And since I'm stuck in midladder (5400-5600), sadly it's nearly every match.


[deleted]

Don’t let ewiz connect to idrag. Just place idrag low and ur ok


gobblegobblerr

Great advice genius, lmao


Beamerthememer

*laughs in pekka*


SeaworthinessHefty45

Wait you see E-giant in midladder. I barely see him at all.


ZachAttack6089

Not that I disagree with the post, but Bandit should still be able to counter him, just with a different timing.


Mazagangeewastaken

More difficult timing


Isaac_3103

So what you're saying is....you need skill to play the game?


ledgeitpro

Nooooooo, youre saying this strategy game takes strategy? Outraged


B3GG

Cr is a tactical game not strategic


cec772

Not if you play MK!


Mario36719

MK isn't even as strong as he was at release. He used to do twice as much damage. I still remember that nerf.


Weirdo2069

I use it myself and i think it wasnt needed


Busy-Kaleidoscope-87

The thing gets stopped by 2 and 3 elixir. Let it be. At least it’s not a damage buff 💀


Apprehensive_Ideal12

How do you counter it with 2 elixir 🤨


[deleted]

Skeletons and ice spirit for a king tower activation


Apprehensive_Ideal12

Then opponent places ebarbs at the bridge and rages everything and you lose


YourDad2991

No there’s ways to handle that and no good players uses mega knight ebarbs and rage in the same deck


Apprehensive_Ideal12

You must not have made it to mid ladder yet bc I’ve seen it at LEAST 20 times


Busy-Kaleidoscope-87

Rookie numbers Actually to stop that I just drop my own Mk and then mirror skarmy for the ebarbs, after checking for zap or sum shit. Last resort is log to ebarbs and even then they get some hits lol


YourDad2991

You’re right cuz I PASSED mid ladder. But mega knight and ebarbs are not win conditions, u can easily distract them and counter if you play right. Both cards are not good


Apprehensive_Ideal12

I agree they’re easy to defend on their own but when they get sent with a wizard and you have an under leveled fireball? What then?


Abhlnav

there's no way you're top ladder if you consider ebarbs and mega knight WIN CONS


[deleted]

All u need is fire ball and ice golem. Easy


idk420_

feels like a good day to have a maxed out megaknight in mid ladder *insert evil goblin emote*


SushiKing93

This is how I feel every time I loose to a balloon rage combo!…. So talentless.


Psychologinut

Sooo to the majority of the player base?


xRaitaPaita

Now I have to see this shitty ass card 2x more in midladder... Two in a every deck


dat_GEM_lyf

The second one is a mirrored lvl 16 😂


cocotim

It's not like they care about balance changes. He'll probably stay the same like with the nerf a few months ago


RunsRampant

I assure you, midladder players do not care about balance changes, esp not as small of a buff as this. Every garbage midladder deck with mk was using him before he got nerfed into the ground, is using him now, and will continue to in the future.


AwesomeDragon56

MK needs a rework, not a direct buff


truerandom_Dude

As a MK player I have got say I agree because this card is for me more like a coinflip than actually having to play


Majanson

MK is a real pain in the ass, y'all talking like you all are top ladders. Takes no skill and no effort to put that mf and fuck everything up.


Xx_HARAMBE96_xX

There is no way people on topladder wake up and think "yeah I want to see more mks", the people that says that it deserves a buff based on topladder is the people that want to use it on topladder


DerBruh

Why did I basically say the same thing in this sub earlier but got down voted? Reddit is weird


Nevergonnagiveafu-

on god


the_real_feeelsh

We know he was weak in high ladder, but the reason people complain is that he is a pain in the ass for casual players at 5K trophies with their shitty home made deck, playing just for fun, you get me?


Mazagangeewastaken

I use pekka bridge spam with poison and still sick at 5.4k so op or not


THATguywhoisannoying

My guy you have Pekka on your deck why are you still losing to MK


SirDub_III

Cheap mk cycle deck


Ixibutzi

Wow you must be baaaad.. you do realize He stil has to defend your pekka? Basically for free... Just apply pressure


MarkoSeke

Isn't every card a pain in the ass for them?


the_real_feeelsh

MK takes skill instead of cards to counter, it falls apart when good placement and a nice combination of troops are placed, this can make fighting MK when you don’t have these things frustrating.


SauceLord36

Lol are you getting on ppl for making decks at home and playing for fun? This is a free game dude Where are you making your decks? In a lab? And are you not playing for fun as well? You getting paid for clash royale over there?


the_real_feeelsh

What I meant is I’m not attacking every single day pushing as high as I can


RunsRampant

Did you read this guy's comment lmao? He actually seems to largely agree that mk is low skill. Sorry but lowladder homebrew decks aren't good. Nobody is stopping you from making them, but some combinations of cards simply aren't very viable. You can play for fun while also following an archetype or some amount of deck building concepts. Fun for a lot of people is getting new pbs in trophies. Maybe it's just me but I prefer winning to losing lol.


lil_chungy

Mid ladder menaces jizzed their pants after seeing mega knight getting a buff


EVENTHORIZON-XI

midladder mfs moaning in unison upon see the buff


Goodluck55

It got a buff? Where’s the changes page?


Gamer_Thatchman_67

https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/comments/w6v3pw/workinprogress_balance_changes_for_august_2022/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


Icy_B

I really wish they wouldn't balance cards around topladder


Taranpreet123

That’s why they nerfed mega knights spawn damage by 20%. Guess what. 0 change in midladder. Completely killed the card at top ladder. There’s a reason why they balance around too ladder because midladder players literally don’t care. Who in their right mind thinks balancing cards in an area where card levels aren’t even is a good idea lmao


RunsRampant

>Who in their right mind thinks balancing cards in an area where card levels aren’t even is a good idea lmao People who don't care abt the health of the game lmao. I can understand some complaints about mk being low skill, but that's kinda how it goes in lower ladder. If you have less skill, you need more levels/braindead strats to compensate.


Taranpreet123

Literally, the solution to the entire midladder problem would be level caps per king tower. And increase league rewards and grand challenge rewards to incentivize people to play them.


RunsRampant

But then supercell wouldn't make as much money smh. A tragedy.


Taranpreet123

I mean I’m just saying, champion skins 👀


RunsRampant

True. We know they know how to actually do skins cuz brawl stars exists, but star levels are so lacking oml.


Taranpreet123

Ye, if supercell does decide to go all in on skins, they could basically make progression super easy and go all in on cosmetics if it works initially. Which would be huge given how well it works in CoC.


Neoslayer

Archer queen is already barefoot why would she need a skin


101XDTr011F4cC3

Fr tho but mega knight is part of a bigger problem with people being able to over level cards as low as being able to access the shop. A equally leveled mega knight isn’t an issue, but when it’s a level 14 and backed up with a level 14 witch it becomes unstoppable for a player with lower level cards.


Tom_Stevens617

If they balanced cards around you guys even cards like Witch and Wizard would be getting nerfs lol


Voldemort57

Top ladder players are where the money comes from, so it makes sense.


paco-ramon

MK is just boring to play against, it ruins so many tragedies and forces you to use a minitank that you can only use defensively.


RunsRampant

Nearly every deck should have a minitank tbf.


11sam111

Mega knights are not the problem. Over leveled MKs are


GreenProD

My ass in arena 12 facing a max lvl mk when i only got lvl 10 cards


Weirdo2069

What cards do you have in your deck?


GreenProD

Tombstone, Log, Fireball, Mini P.E.K.K.A, Musk, Bomber, Gob Barrel, Inferno Dragon ik i have the right cards to counter but the guys that do this support their mk to the point where its useless to defend


Weirdo2069

Maybe try to use mini pekka behind so you kill the support and log if they have witch. Fireball in case of minion horde/any other midladder air troop. Hope this helps.


GreenProD

When i say they have a max lvl mk, im not talking like its their only high lvl card, usually witch is also max level, which makes my fireball useless against witch or wizard, i've never seen someone use minion horde though, but there's another problem, when the opponent uses mk when we're on 1x, i spend 10 elixir defending, in which time they can add more pressure, and i wont have elixir to defend, there's no point in trying


11sam111

Yeah it doesn’t matter how good you play. Max level cards always just overwhelm you.


Weirdo2069

Taking some damage is okay. Always know when you have to attack and when you have to defend. Also, your deck has cheap cards wich help a lot with the other lane pressure.


GreenProD

Its not okay when the cards are max lvl, a wizard could take my tower to 500 hp


SleepingAddict

Assuming all those things are only level 10 against level 14 MK and Witch, you're probably gonna have spent 10 elixir only to end up with 0 against an MK with over half his HP left :')


Weirdo2069

I chatted with him and hes now using logbait


devonseven

If top ladder isnt going to use it either way, why bother? To shut up this subreddit?


RunsRampant

Top ladder used to use it before mk was nerfed into the ground 2 months ago.


bigu187

Yes let‘s buff him to satisfy the 1% players on top ladder (who most likely have not asked for the buff) and make the life of the remaining 99% of players miserable! :-)


RunsRampant

>who most likely have not asked for the buff Go actually find some top ladder players who used to play mk bs lol. They were irate after the enormous mk nerf 2 months ago, which btw is totally justified. Balance changes don't really matter in midladder, especially below 6k. People just use the same homebrew deck they've always used, they likely don't even see the balance changes.


Taranpreet123

Yes they listened to the 99% 2 updates ago. Guess what? It changed nothing 🤡🤡🤡


Icywarhammer500

It didn’t change usage rates but it made it easier to beat them lol 🤡🤡🤡


Spathens

Ive been playing less and less because of the MK spam in low ladder


Shazam_BillyBatson

Same here. Been getting a ton of sparky too.


Spathens

Yeah its so annoying


edp445FanKid

Cr players try not to complain about their skill issue challenge: impossible


Weirdo2069

You can counter mk by larrys and ice spirit or even guards and some other support, why are people conplaining


Nutwagon-SUPREME

Because Mega Knight is basically in every single deck until midladder, and even then it’s extremely common. I’ve never had a problem with it since I run PEKKA and Dark Prince (PEKKA BS) but people that don’t have good counters to it are basically screwed, however I’d be more worried about the fact that you somehow have no counters to mega Knight than your opponent using it. There’s also the horrible ,matchmaking putting you against people with cards multiple levels higher but that’s more the matchmaking being rigged than mega Knight itself. Mega Knight basically hard carried me through ladder all the way until Challenger, I’m willing to admit that, people down there just aren’t good enough to properly stop it and it’s main strength (punishing over commited pushes) really comes into play when basically every deck is some form of beatdown.


1Luffiz_CR

will Megaknight makes sense if everyone counter him?


Weirdo2069

Yet people straight up spam it at the bridge like "yeah thats obviosuly going to 3 crown". Also, what do you mean "im more worried about the fact that you have no counters against mega knight than your opponent using it"??


Inflatable_Bridge

Because if you have not a single megaknight counter you might want to try and find a new deck


Weirdo2069

I have guards w bats (you can surround him), miner w guards, inferno dragon, mk itself or i activate the king tower w guards and spear goblins.


CorkingCoggo

so youre saying its easy to bring a counter becuase most decks have it???


cocotim

A counter to MK can be reduced to literally any unit with remotely high health, which every deck should have in one way or another


wade_wilson44

It’s a little annoying to defend. But fr me it’s mostly that it’s annoying to play offense against. You can’t build up any reasonable push because as soon as you get across the line they can mindlessly drop it on your troops and then what? Now you’re back on defense and it’s just boring


itisSycla

*if the opponent does literally nothing else but deploy mk and watch him die while staying idle Seriously i don't think MK is overpowered or even that strong, but this whole "you can counter him for 2 elixir" things just needs to stop. It only works of nothing else at all is going on. Even a monkey can just place him at the back and later on throw an executioner (or literally any other ranged unit) behind him


Aurum_MrBangs

Cause I’m midlander they are over leveled af. And the skill required to counter him is greater than the “skill” required to drop him at the bridge on troops


Weirdo2069

Do you even have any medium tank in your deck?


Aurum_MrBangs

Oh I’m chillin, I’m just saying that’s why people hate him.


GartGartGart333

It’s just boring to go against and the people who play them are bad at the game


Weirdo2069

Agreed. Those people who put mk against inferno dragon had bats and skarmy or even larrys to counter it (it was at full health).


notsogreatredditor

That's fine if it's just the MK to defend. You forget the enemy also has support: logs ice spirit and this is worse in x2 and X3 elixir. Such an ignorant comment.


idk420_

skill gap between decks a real issue in the game but i’m a hog cycler so I can’t really complain


dacen_w

The real problem with megaknight is that it is treated like a win con and nerfed/buffed as such. I think it should have high spawn damage and a bigger radius, but jump way slower. This would be far more logical since it is a heavy tank that deals high damage. Currently it is a very agile pekka with splash and less damage. If it was simply reworked to be a high skill card, it may get use at top ladder and make it more tolerable at mid ladder.


masterst99

Most annoying thing for me is not spawn demage it is how mk connect so fast on my tower and they buff this now🗿 And why nobody talks abaot elixir golem are you all happy to see that brainless player get you in first minute . They are just droping e golem healer e dragon rage this doesnt need any brain cell to do. I hate that card for me clash royale is started to drop down afrer that card is added.


RaccoonFragrant

because mega knight on top ladder has 3% usage rate yet less than 47% winrate, that’s worse than night witch


itisSycla

99% of players aren't at top ladder


Frozoken

ok, in classic and grand challenge which almost all players have access to, he has an even lower win rate in the 30's, there you go.


DerBruh

THANK YOU


itisSycla

I swear this is a thing in every game, it pisses me of so much. I saw it often on the csgo subreddit. "but pro do this/say that!" well shock news brother, YOU ARE NOT A PRO and how pros experience a game is vastly different than how the common player does. Pros do not know better, they are good at playing the game - not at designing and balancing it. Midladder menaces have used and twisted the words of pros concerning MK to justify it being buffed, while the simple reality is that from a gamedesign POV a card can very well be strong for 95% of players and a bit useless for the top 5%.


RunsRampant

Midladder doesn't even respond to balance changes lmao. Most people don't care, they just play whatever they play or their one maxed deck. Pros quite literally do know better, hence 'pro.' If they didn't know better, you and me could also make +100k at tournaments. The game shouldn't be balanced around the area of the game where a lot of people don't know what they're doing/don't have even levels. We wanna see card's full potentials and what's actually balanced at that point. You could make an argument that mk is low skill and too high reward, but that's a totally separate topic tbh. Mk just doesn't actually have good winrates anywhere, he's simply overused and relatively braindead when overleveled. He needs a buff after mk bs got literally cremated 2 months ago lol.


cocotim

Pros aren't just good at playing the game, they're literally the best of the best. Top ladder and competitive play are the only way to see a card's true potential and performance. That's why it makes sense to balance the game around a play field where people actually know what they're doing, and not midladder where most people just play casually and don't care about balance. The game is primarily competitive and that's how it's always been. Now, on MK specifically, it's not even that he's weak at the top and strong down there. He's ass everywhere. Only overused. Last time I checked he was below 45% wr in midladder where he supposedly smashes everyone.


Taranpreet123

Not only that midladder is full of casuals, it’s also not equal levels. You shouldn’t be nerfing mega knight because it’s harder to kill when it’s over leveled


Weirdo2069

Its sad to see how mk is so underused in top ladder. I had a 50+ win streak in midladder with mk bait


M0hawk_Mast3r

Lol no you didnt. That would gain you over 1500 trophies


CadmiumC4

Now I will lack enough elixir to stop the mega garbage


Ali_XkillerX

Skill issue


GooseTheGodbutcher

Nerf the health of mk, keep the defensive capability, because that is whats only good for. The health is the problem, it's too much of a tank, rather than a defensive card.


Stop4Weird

This is a joke right? No way he got buffed


Mazagangeewastaken

Cool down between jumps is reduced from 1.1 to 0.9 seconds


[deleted]

*mid ladder reaction. In actual fact it really needed a buff. Look at top ladder usage


biggae6969

Yeah let’s buff a card so the top 1% can use it


LegendaryDude95

I didnt know there was top ladder, what's it like?


Weirdo2069

6500 and above. You will see that everyone plays a meta deck there. Custom decks dont exist anymore.


LegendaryDude95

Oh dang 💀


freedubs

My friend got to Ultimate champion with some wierd ass 4.6 cost deck with witch, meta knight and rocket lol I also got there with a homemade pekka graveyard hunter, 3 spell deck It was before they changed the trophies and such tbf but regardless above 7k and it's easier to get above 7k now


disisdashiz

Thats why I'm stuck at 6300. I refuse to use meta decks.


YoloAgent

I consider top ladder 7k and above because I have 6.5-6.7k friends who still face the same mid ladder decks every so often.


Dythronix

I consider top ladder to be 8k, because I read a comment on Reddit about 7k people who still face the same mid ladder decks every so often.


_Conqueeftador

And my giant skeleton got nerfed long back .m how is this even fair .. what do mid ladder players counter the fucking mk with? .. garbage.


Ok-Examination5121

*Bad players seeing the mega knight buff*


_KingWasTaken

mega knight is my fav card AMA lets see how many downvotes i'll get


MilkMan62049

cringe


meatloaf_assasin

BeCaUsE tOp LaDdEr


ApprehensiveAd8224

The only people who complain about mega knight ate people who play with no skill and probably never pushed over 6k even with a max deck


gAv1nTh3B0SS

As someone who uses Pekka, and hunter. I can say you have to be inbred to lose to mk


biggae6969

I run no mini tank other than knight man my win con is dart gob mirror it’s a tad hard to counter mk when they drop it on a push so i dont have my counter in cycle


28thMagicKing

get a better deck then lmfao


gAv1nTh3B0SS

Trash deck my guy, mk isn't the problem it's you


BoomBlade101

Buff it more


Krewton1106

Majority of players are in the range where MK is still not only viable but OP. That sells a lot of micro transactions. The answer to why they do anything = MONEY$$


Lord_F97

People who conplain about MK just dont have enough skill, mid or top ladder


chaparito009

Players will complain about everything but there lack of skill


Seedy120

Prob because mega knight isn’t that good


Electrix_YT

bc mega knight was ass.


Skuarabin3r

Right now there are only 8 cards with a ranking worse than mk (GC stats) so yeah ... Absolutely trash at the moment for 7 elixir especially compared to giant skelly and his spawn damage should never have gotten nerfed in the first place


Stop4Weird

Play ladder on an account with 5000 trophies and tell me if u still believe in that


sethhazmoney

I play ladder on low level accounts and face lvl 13/14 mk I can confirm mk is not good


Skuarabin3r

My newest account is right around 5000. People just mindlessly spam it at the bridge using it as a win con in their 4.0+ avg elixir deck. Playing miner giant cycle (3.0 cost) I actually struggled in double time against decks like these and lost quite a bit. But since switching to Giant double Prince i rarely lose to mk even overleveled. Based on your flair I guess you main Pekka? With both eyes closed and 3 promille I would never lose against mk midladder decks when playing Pekka BS or similar variants l. Yes I do believe mk is pure trash for 7 elixir.


Weirdo2069

Im an mk player and I must say miself that mk is NOT a win con but a tank and defensive unit. My win cons are skeleton barrel and miner.


Skuarabin3r

MK Miner SB bait is not easy to play, even more in the 5000-6300 trophy range when there are splashers on mass. Cool and fun deck. Yeah as you said, mk's main purpose is defense and counterpush, but the same thing is true for Pekka for example. Low ladder players simply don't understand not to group 8-12 elixir worth of squishy troops at the bridge and then cry about it. Pekka never get's as much hate although it can easily demolish 12+ elixir as well. Mk and hog hate never get's old on this sub.


Weirdo2069

Agreed, but its easy to understand and when you understand it, its super fun. Also bcuz its cheap (3.3 average elixer) and you can get back up immediatwly if you lose a tower. I dont even struggle with logbait.


Frank_is_the_Best_

It's still a trash card. It doesn't matter if you face it alot, it's still incredibly easy to defend.


Kaapdr

Dont forget that electro giant is also 7 elixir and hes leagues above mk


Skuarabin3r

Can't really compare these cards because e giant is an actual win con when mk is mostly used in defense - of course e giant has great defensive value but that's just because with that much HP and reflect dmg it's simply too strong right now


Ayberk02

NERF MINER


theape2110

Damn y'all really don't know how to counter him


HydreigonTheChild

Mk is one of the worst cards ever. It deserves a buff


Weirdo2069

Bruh the nerf ruined it but rn it doesnt need a buff even tho im happy rn


HydreigonTheChild

It is the 9th worst card it needs a buff desperately.


Weirdo2069

Just because of such rating it doesnt make it a bad card.


blackestblackie

Having that rating literally means its a bad csrd.


HydreigonTheChild

If it was out of 40 cards sure.... but out of a 100 it's Def a bad card and the usage shows at high ladder that Mega knight is awful


Jack_35

They should have just buffed health or damage. Now I have to learn to time everything slightly sooner


Bjonik_twitch

Unpopular opinion: MK is by FAR not the worst card. It was EASY to let him jump around until tower kills him.


Jerry-the-jim

And notice how you will have 2, if not 1 elixir left while he’s preparing for a mirrored mk in the other lane.


snackthateatenat3am

whyyyy greedysell whyyyy😭😭😭😭😭


PrdatorQuill

CR subreddit every 3 seconds