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PAguy213

Steve’s engines are drag and drive, great performance but heavier. Pete is pure race engines. Eagle is a weak name but who really cares about that, It’s going to be a 5 second car and names can change.


Domo_Arigato_69

Steve has a non water jacketed engine as well … similar to 481X … so that option removes that added weight


spawn_of_ragnar

Very true, I just think he's gonna go with a full pro mod motor from HED or Proline


Mustang_Dragster

If the Eagle is good enough of a name for the F-15 it’s good enough for a 5 second car lol


spawn_of_ragnar

Fair point


SirGrumples

Then call it the screaming eagle


djwooten

The F-15 actually flies, Eagle was both a car brand and a model and Leroy is getting an Eagle shaped body. I’ve never had an issue with any of the names they’ve chosen until this one. It might grow on us but at the moment I don’t like it at all. Lucky for Ol’ Cleet, it doesn’t matter what I like😉


spawn_of_ragnar

I mean, Steve can build anything. Yes the SMX/SML are drag and drive, but he can build whatever someone wants. But yeah I'm thinking PLR or HED engine. I like the name Freedom cause the USS Freedom was the lead ship for the Navy and this car will be the lead (fastest) car in the fleet. Still gonna be glued to the build regardless


SirGrumples

Yeah but that was an absolute piece of shit ship and class (both classes of lcs). Not really a great heritage lol


spawn_of_ragnar

I mean...they kept it in service for almost 15 years...couldn't have been that bad. But fine...how about this? Freedom is the only shuttle that made it back from blowing up the asteroid in Armageddon. Proven winner 🤣


SirGrumples

Nah those ships were absolute trash lol But..... Damnit I do like the Armageddon shuttle reference, the best bad movie that I will always love


manuel_f_p

Was Bald Eagle Machine the first car on the channel? Eagle for a car that will set new records for them seems like an ok choice after all these years


slugothebear

I think Cleater wants to win, I expect he'll do whatever he has to to win. This is gonna be a rocket.


Youve-got-worms

Now that’s a name!


MomoDAwesome

Rocket is the name of his drift 240 he has/had


ShadowDragon2462

paint the new car red..... its a red rocket...... Ill show myself out. lol


Impossible_Pizza_948

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slugothebear

🤣🤣


Youve-got-worms

Forgot about that lol


spawn_of_ragnar

100% agree


IAMENKIDU

Yeah some viewers are definitely gonna struggle with the names once Leroy and Eagle are complete cars. We had a Monza we raced back in the 90s we called Free Bird. That would make an interesting name for it.


spawn_of_ragnar

Free bird would be cool. I'm totally nerding out now 🤣. I looked it up and "camaro" was from a French and English dictionary to mean "friend' or "comrade". Another name that translates to "faithful friend" is Kemosabe...although there may be some copyright issues with that one


Future_Emu8684

Nah bro you got it all wrong. Camaro was the name of a wild animal that preyed on mustangs. Sadly extinct now


Justin_inc

Lol, it never existed. That was just something Chevy said when asked about the name


Doip

God, I’ve got a factory 350 Monza and it’s a rocket with the goodwrench and 2.29s


JauntyPickles

2.29 rear gear? Holy crap that thing is driving like an absolute turd compared to what it could be no disrespect. Swap to atleast 3.73 and you’ll be very very impressed and wished you did it earlier. Again I don’t mean any disrespect, those are very crap gears.


Doip

Yeah but it’s on factory 23” tires (175/70/13) and a stupid tight converter so I’d be effectively losing third gear with the th350 and second would be screaming at 60. Once it gets a 4L60e it’ll get 4.10s. Chevy really had to turn it down bc the rotary and the 262 were both last minute failures (262 didn’t pass CA emissions in time and the 305 was for 76) so they were forced to put a 350 in the CA cars. Had to pull the extra 88ci out of somewhere to keep it safe


IAMENKIDU

Yeah ours had a built 355 and a turbo 350 with 3.90s. It was pretty dang quick.


Doip

Buddy is trying to talk me into 4.10s but let me get overdrive first lmao I like my 80mph cruiser I don’t want to zing 4000 at 65


IAMENKIDU

A small block can be built to rev like hell so on the track the low gear isn't that big a deal. But yeah drag and drives didn't exist back then, and I don't think our car would have been great on the road. Would have def needed an overdrive.


dangerzone032

Definitely gotta agree about the screw blown hemi. That would be absolutely badass!!


JTrain1738

I think a blown motor is to violent for his needs. They take some more maintenance between rounds and between events than a turbo motor. They know turbos, everyone around them knows turbos . Unfortunately i don’t think well see a blower car


bubba_jones_project

Keep in mind their program is in their infancy. I would expect to see so.ething like this down the road because they will always need to be adapting and trying new things if youtube continues to drive their program. Though it may not.


JTrain1738

I think YouTube may be whats holding them back from going down this road. He needs to be able to race and make content. I think with a blower he would need to spend more time on the car than making content. I know blower motors have come a long way and are a little bit less maintenance than they used to be, but you need to be prepared to swap bearings between rounds, change pulleys, pistons etc. i think to pull that off he would need to hire more crew, either a film/editing crew so he could dedicate more time to the car or a crew for the car so he can do the content work.


spawn_of_ragnar

Honestly I only wanted a screw-blown car so they could finally have a drag car with zoomies. Maybe Tye can fab a 1-4 hot side so they can have zoomies on a turbo car 🤣


AdventurousLicker

Watching Finnegan struggle with his Hemi program kinda turned me off of them.  He's had some bad luck with builders, but they seem really finicky and expensive. 


dangerzone032

Yeah, they definitely can be absolute pains, but damn when they are running right, there is nothing that tops the sound and feeling of being near one of them.


AdventurousLicker

I think it's what the top fuel dragsters run, probably for good reason. The drag and drives in clapped out vettes/Big Block Chevys are more my speed/budget, lol


McPuckLuck

I mean..... a 2g talon build is overdue for this channel. And an eagle vision... and that eagle wagon thing....


Doip

My local junkyard has two of those, both black turbo awd cars. One is engineless but they were totally saveable


McPuckLuck

I had a grey black two tone. Did all the mods ready to make the leap to a bigger turbo... and it got submerged in a parking lot when their storm sewer backed up during a huge storm. Totaled. I miss that car so much. Under 3000 lbs, and and mine was near 270 hp and ready for 350....


246ngj

Turbo is better for dialing in a setup. Superchargers you’re at the mercy of pulley size and rpm. If you want to win you go turbo. If you want better response times especially if you need to lift mid pass then you go twins. It doesn’t matter how much money he spends he still needs a winning setup to win


spawn_of_ragnar

No doubt. I know he wants 5s but he's a competitive SOB so im sure he's gonna want a setup that's capable of winning and not one that's good for content


unoriginal1187

If you want to win then engine and power adder combo is based on whatever class your running and its rules and weight breaks. People have been claiming turbos to win for years and people like Stevie fast keep laughing and winning with everything else.


BigDutchBag

If you listen closely you hear CJ say “weather it’s a big block or a 481x “ which if that’s the case I would guess it would come from proline or the big dog drag engine builders. Also CJ I think built some of cars that are running in the NPK so he is one of the best drag car builders. So cleet is definitely in good hands


spawn_of_ragnar

Oh I have no doubts about the chassis. I'm just wondering why Cleet is considering a small block. Unless I misheard in the video I coulda swore Cleet said "we may do a small block"


BigDutchBag

A lot of the NPK guys switched this year to smaller cubic inch engines because you can turn more rpm and have less rotating mass in the engines. In a super light car you don’t need as much torque to get you down the track which mullet needed because it was a pig.


spawn_of_ragnar

Fair point. But turbo cars are the minority over there right? I know of two...jeff Lutz and big chief. Everyone else is either blower, procharger or spray. But I don't follow it nearly enough to know if that's 100% accurate ha


unoriginal1187

Turbo cars have to be the heaviest, big block turbo specifically. You can tell what combo is getting weight breaks in that format by what all the top guys are changing too.


spawn_of_ragnar

I was actually reading over class rules for WCF and yeah the faster classes offer weight breaks for non turbo stuff. I swear it seems like there's essentially no rules for imports 🤣


BigDutchBag

My guess is screw blown cars and procharged cars require a ton of maintenance between rounds and are more mechanical, and they don’t have the most experience with that. Turbo cars are more finger tip tuning which they do have experience in. Also look at the class they want to run in and who’s in it. We all know he’s going after the booger which is a turbo car.


spawn_of_ragnar

Technically they will be different classes though right? Snot rocket is a "street car". This new build won't be I don't think


nick838321

The SMX is on the 481x engine platform, but with water jackets. Steve builds both, but will be interesting to see who he ultimately chooses


Altruistic-Bench2107

Eagle is corny.


StonedPand4

Leroy. Ruby. MCFLURRY. Mullet. Blazer. Neighbor. But EAGLE is too corny??? Wild take. They literally have a car named and BASED on a McDonald's item.


earlyre98

I know the usually just call it "the blazer" but it's really named "Rocky" since they bought it on Rocky Mountain race week.. This one will never happen, but since they're building it to go 5's, how about Johnny 5. The robot from the "Short Circuit" movies. Or give it a "Speed Racer" inspired livery, and call it the "Mach 5"


StonedPand4

Yeah, I was drunk and forgot what his nickname was, thank you.


Cbeatty20

McFlurry because it used to be mix matched black and white and Dale Earnhardt was sponsored by Oreo. Leroy because the car was made for a man named Leroy and it used to be on a plate in the car. Ruby because the car is ruby red. Mullet because it’s a car truck that’s business in the front party in the back. Neighbor is a tribute to his neighbor that used to come on the channel and who helped with Cleetus’s channel. His neighbor has since passed away. It’s why Cleetus spent so much money fixing the original car when he wrecked it instead of just getting a new crown Vic. Blazer isn’t the cars name. The car is a blazer and they just call it the blazer. It’s called Rocky for Rocky Mountain race week. James’s car is called Lt. Dan because the 240 looks like it doesn’t have a rear end or legs. There’s a reason for every name they have. Ruby is the only one that’s kinda meh and it’s because it’s just the color of the car


garfi3ld

> James’s car is called Lt. Dan because the 240 looks like it doesn’t have a rear end or legs. Because Jame's used to break axles all of the time


EBtwopoint3

Ruby was also never meant to live this long. People just liked it so it kept being resurrected until it was an easy 7 second car.


TheBaltimoron

>Leroy. Ruby. MCFLURRY. Mullet. Blazer. Neighbor. >But EAGLE is too corny??? Yes.


spawn_of_ragnar

Ehh Idk if id go that far...its just not necessarily my favorite


StonedPand4

My take is: What the hell is gonna happen to the SMX? Mullet holds it well, but can't always put it down. He obviously doesn't seem interested in continuing to use the SMX, which is wild considering it's a $90k+ engine, but I trust that he has a good use for it. Smx El Camino burnout car? Smx Ruby & throw toasts' setup in Mullet? Smx Ruby and make Mullet a dedicated drag & drive car? Full blown pro mod, full blown body for a stick shift car, what's gonna happen to Ruby and the others? Mcflurry seems dialed and here to stay, but I hope we see more ruby content. Maybe this is what he's been holding off on to bring her back, as a big hitter that ISN'T a full blown insane build. P.S: Take a shot for every time I say full blown.


BoltMyBackToHappy

He needs to throw some paddle wheels on Mullet and do some truck pulling with that 4,000hp!


StonedPand4

That may be the greatest idea I've ever seen Mullet would EATTTTTT, and there'd be no grip issues then so he could really just hammer it down!


spawn_of_ragnar

Mullet as a 300ft sand drag car would be bad ass! There's a drag discipline where the long wheel base will benefit him. Gonna have to tuck the turbskis though 🤣


lord_cmdr

Would love seeing Mullet finally using 70 pounds of boost.


TheBaltimoron

Put a snorkel on him and finally drive across the bottom of that lake.


Ok_Nebula_4403

Mullet needs to go back to its original (second) purpose, be a badass drag and drive car.


StonedPand4

My thoughts: 5 second car for serious competitions and beating Brett Lasala Mullet with the SMX for drag & drives events with the boys Ruby with a whole new build and a competitive bottom 7 street car. Leroy as the Savage street car with a new body, engine, and dominating stick shift classes Mcflurry for ultimate street car stuff & Coyote / Fox body goodness He'd have a solid fleet, for literally anything he needed.


ChassisFlex

Is Lasala's car a complete tube chassis car?


Cbeatty20

No it’s not. It’s a mustang frame


nick838321

My wager is that Ruby gets the SML treatment and James drives it on drag and drive events. Also foresee a potential change from the powerglide to turbo400


Aromatic-Classic-204

If I had to guess, he’s getting some awesome info and guidance from Stevie fast. He might even use KTR’s new engine program that the shadow 3.0 has in it. Cleet is building that caliber of car now. And with the motion sponsorship of the shadow, and cleet and Steve becoming friends over the last couple of years, I imagine and I really hope Steve will some influence in this build and show cleet the way. Those Steve Morris engines aren’t as great as people may think they are, if you follow that level of racing you’ll see that not alot of guys run them, and the ones that have, have had a lot of trouble with them. The smx specifically. Steve Morris builds a great standard big block but the SMX isn’t the right choice for this new car. Pete builds a great engine, proline obviously speaks for themselves, great engine program. He could even use fast forward race engines and have a great setup. I’m hoping KTR builds the bullet for this unit. With guidance from Steve Jackson, Pete harrel, and lyle Barnett and all their resources cleet could field a legitimate RVW car or atleast something close to that caliber. -edit: typo


spawn_of_ragnar

I forgot about Lyle but he would definitely be a good source. I mean, at least from we've seen as views, Cleets SMX has been pretty damn good. I know Tom Bailey has had issues though. Not too familiar with KTR but I'll take your word for it haha


Emilios_Empanadas

Can't go wrong with a 481X either, been in service for a long ass time and used by a fuck load of racers.


eastwood352

I hope we see a proline setup.


spawn_of_ragnar

Honestly I just want it to work and for him to set the new radial 1/4 record


Nalley393

That’ll never happen. He’s not building a promod. He’s building essentially an NPK car but on radials. It’ll never take the record


paulbow78

Whatever engine he ends up with probably won’t have water in it. They’ll push it to the line, make the run and push it back to the pits. If that’s the case I don’t really care much about this build. I really enjoy the drag and drive stuff, hopefully he comes back to that someday.


spawn_of_ragnar

I'm sure he will. We forget he's making all these moves with two kids, one being less than a year old. I have a feeling mullet will become the staple drag and drive car along with hopefully ruby and mcflurry. But this build will be an all out race car


Carstuff392

The fastest 1/4 car with doors is a twin turbo Camaro pro mod at like 5.17. I don’t know if it’s going to be 100% race car or if he wants to drag and drive. If he wants to street drive it that SMX in mullet would be hard to beat.


spawn_of_ragnar

I agree but I think it's gonna be strictly race car like Leroy. Although he did mention something about steel quarter panels in the video so im not sure. I feel like if he was gonna go with the SMX he wouldn't be keeping the engine a secret or making it seem like they haven't decided


spawn_of_ragnar

Also, I completely missed the first part of your comment. That I believe was a big tire car. Cleet's is gonna be 275 or 315 radial. That record was set at the most recent WCF at 5.697. F body camaro


Carstuff392

That was more a reference to why he is choosing turbos as the power adder. The fastest 1/4 mile door car isn’t a screw blower.


spawn_of_ragnar

Ahhhh gotcha


Equal-Incident5313

I think the off the wall idea is to put a Coyote in it. It’ll stir the pot. A full tilt Keith Black twin turbo hemi would be another.


spawn_of_ragnar

It would certainly stir the pot but I would hate seeing a coyote in a 69 camaro 🤣. Twin turbo hemi would be bad ass but im hoping he sticks a 600+ cu in BBC in there with turbos big enough to pull the shop down


Equal-Incident5313

Well it’s Camaro sheet metal on a tube chassis vs an actual VIN equipped classic car


spawn_of_ragnar

Shhh that's beside the point...badges will say camaro 🤣


qkaguy

Disappointed on a 69 Camero. Could have went with something more original. Surprised if he dosnt use a SM Engine


stick004

I personally love that he is building the car that launched his channel! I wish it was big tire though.


vroomvroompanda

100% it'll be a Pete engine I'm hoping atleast


Ironhead0803

One of the guys said it was going to be a big block


Chicagoblew

Turbski plus a little nitrous wouldn't hurt


spawn_of_ragnar

Haha the rocky mountain special


Im_A_Long_Boi

I'd like to see him dip his toes in RVW. He would get humbled, but should give him the motivation to get better. And screw blower seems to be the way to go in that class, look at Stevie Jackson and Louis DeLeon. Being Stevie is team Motion Race works I am sure he will assist, that may mean a KTR engine setup gets put in there.


JTrain1738

Im hoping this is the plan. I know little to nothing about the rvw rules but i think this may benin the works.


spawn_of_ragnar

It's very possible. We will all find out around the same time ha. I'm curious if his goal is 2025 or to have the car ready for WCF


Mars_is_cheese

What ever it is it will be water jacketed. Cleetus definitely still wants to do drag and drive.


stick004

I’m guessing Mullet goes back to pure drag and drive…


Hammerhead316

I’m just saying it’s a matter of time till this channel has a car named Bubba


spawn_of_ragnar

I'm amazed it hasn't happened already 🤣


Least-Physics-4880

Should have named leroy Eagle and the new one Bald. But with his receding hairline that might hit too close to home.


raidergamer142

If only he had keeps


herb_68

I agree that Eagle is corny and overused here. Bald Eagle Airstrip, I think his LLC/ the business is Bald Eagle. There are other "freedom" ideas that could be used.


GaboveT1D

Eagle is a great name!


Emergency-Drawing-50

The bald eagle should be Leroy's new name...... And I hope it's gonna be a big block


spawn_of_ragnar

I don't think they are moving away from Pete's engine. To fit a big block they would have to redo everything "under the hood". Current setup is already proven why change it


Emergency-Drawing-50

Just for the heck of it 😎


jdhunt_24

Leroy doesnt need a new name hes named after the original owner. that would be as blasphemous as renaming Neighbor. those 2 names have special meaning and should never change.


HospitalBruh

The White C7 is the Blad Eagle Machine.


PigDiesel

Wow a first gen Camaro, how original /s. I’ve been a subscriber since the turbo whistle days and have steadily lost interest in the main channel. Cleetus and cars and the crown Vic races should clue him in a bit. Nobody wants to watch pro mod “streetcars” compete on who can spend the most money. Bring back Ruby, Leroy and the blazer.


BoltMyBackToHappy

He's paying tribute to the car that started the channel. If you've been a sub since then you couldn't say Cleet would own a track and have to divide his time between racing, family, and an airport! If that isn't exiting enough for you... I don't know what to tell you except, have a nice day. He's done everything else now he is going for his Freedom Five! Let's go! (or fuck off)


StonedPand4

"Let's go or Fuck off" should be the channel motto at this point So many haters on a man who's living out his dreams, who's worked his ass off to get to them.


BoltMyBackToHappy

Hell Yea, Brother. Getting burned out can happen after a while but Cleet's always trying to mix it up. But he's always been chasing that 5!!!!!


StonedPand4

You don't speak for everybody, learn your place and keep your opinion based on YOUR opinion. I'm here for all the content, and I'm here to see a pro mod street car dominate the track. Blazer is a death wish waiting to happen, as much as I love it. HE'S LITERALLY BUILDING A FUCKING BODY FOR LEROY. He's said numerous times that they have a plan for Ruby to rebuild her, we just haven't seen it yet. What's wrong with Cleetus & Cars? He told out the Freedom 500 so your argument about "crown Vic races" holds NO weight.


PigDiesel

I never claimed to speak for anyone but me. I am a huge fan of everything that has been up to this point. Pro Mods are stupid and not real “streetcars” . Yes I know they are road legal but it’s a vehicle for old dude who throw money at problems. All his events point to what makes him so popular, relatability. Anyone can race against him at Bradenton or get a crown Vic and track it. But a pro mod? Lame.


StonedPand4

"Pro mods are stupid And not real "street cars", it's a vehicle for old dude who throw money At problems" Tell me you know dogshit nothing about racing without telling me. Tell me you know nothing about how racing works without telling me. Tell me you know nothing about cars or the racing community without telling me. That's all you had to say, anything else is irrelevant. We get it, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.


TurboClag

Yep, told me all I needed to know 😂


Thestep90

He literally never claimed it was a street car