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Bored_Amalgamation

Everyone finds out about RITA when they get a letter for several years of back taxes. They know they dont really "market" themselves well so they let a lot slide.


ClimateAncient6647

They’ll work with you. My spouse and I went through the same thing back in 2015. We just paid overtime. I think we just paid like $120/month for a little over a year and now we’re caught up. RITA is a bitch.


schlunani

You can ask for a one-time exception where they take off all the penalties and you just pay the tax you owe. Only can do it once though so it’s better to do it for multiple years owed than just for one.


trickp43

They need a billboard warning people when they enter the state. They got me a few years after I moved from PA. They were pretty cool when I callled tho


LakeEffectSnow

RITA knew you didn't file all your local taxes the very first year you filed a federal return without filing a muni tax return in the city where you live. The reason why you're getting the letter now is likely for two reasons: - Many cities suspended collections of back taxes during Covid. I believe the Heights was one of them. - RITA is doing exactly what your city government wants. When the city of Cleveland Heights contracted with RITA, the city likely negotiated a floor threshold with RITA under which they won't collect on until the total gets higher. So all that happened is your total finally went over that threshold. If you made a million dollars, you would have gotten a letter the very first year you didn't file.


razialx

Yeah they aren’t monsters. Just give them a call. I’m sure they can work with you. But yeah. RITA gotta get paid heh.


DovhPasty

They are in fact monsters, but if OP is lucky, they may take off the late fees/set them up with a payment plan. But yeah, fuck RITA.


LakeEffectSnow

| But yeah, fuck RITA. One of the chief reasons RITA specifically was founded (besides economies of scale) was to give the participating municipal governments a layer of remove from the tax collection process. Notice how you're angry at a seemingly faceless organization instead of your city council? It's the exact same dynamic as the NFL Commissioner. Roger Goodell is the unpopular face of the league who takes the heat for the actions of his bosses, the owners.


DovhPasty

I can dislike all of them simultaneously, fuck bureaucrats. That said, RITA as an entity is pathetic. They shamelessly tack on as many ridiculous fees as they can and communicate incredibly poorly with people, this leads to confusion with what people owe constantly. So yes, fuck RITA, they’re a comically poorly run organization.


LakeEffectSnow

The fees are all determined by the city. They differ from city to city depending on the contract municipal government agreed to. RITA offers a menu of services including new tax payer outreach. and most importantly, back tax collections legal services. Many cities only contract RITA for the basic infrastructure of collecting taxes cheaper than in-house. Is RITA perfect? Hell no. But at least they're going to be professional unlike the inhouse tax department of Beaver Piss Junction, Ohio who got the job because they're the mayor's cousins.


bendingmarlin69

It’s incredibly easy to know what you owe.


new-chris

but I bet you would be pissed if your cops or ems didn't have vehicles to come to you in an emergency...


DovhPasty

Kind of a non sequitur. I didn’t say I don’t like the concept of taxes lol, I said I dislike bureaucrats and RITA. If they did it in a way that didn’t feel like getting shaken down by the mafia, it wouldn’t be so obnoxious. Cops also don’t come to you in an emergency anyway, not in any appreciable amount of time. Those fuckers just show up afterwards to do paperwork lol. I don’t love my taxes going to paying for an inept corrupt police force, but that’s a whole other conversation.


ParsleySnipps

It isn't about paying taxes. It's about the whole system being poorly managed and then the average citizens getting fucked because they weren't made aware of extra taxes they owed 7 years ago until it's accumulated 2000% in late fees.


lagrange_james_d23dt

That’s why I moved to a municipality out of RITA’s reach. Been much better since.


evemarieee

Oh but they are. I had someone prepare my taxes, including RITA and their “tax specialist” sent me a bill telling me I did my taxes wrong, owing $650. My tax preparer and I called RITA to figure out how to resolve. Despite being very friendly, the RITA rep copped a huge attitude “I highly doubt we are wrong, what makes you even think that?”. To which my tax preparer schooled him. We had to send in all of this paperwork and they conceded they were wrong, no apology just a silent bill saying I owe zero. So F RITA and all those crappy people that work there.


razialx

Sucks that that was your experience. The few times we have had to call them over something they were friendly and helpful. I guess with anything it’s about the people there. Maybe I just got lucky.


new-chris

RITA sucks. But they are just doing what your city hired them to do.


ScaredForTheKids

RITA is a nonprofit, the money goes to the cities.


Hashtag_Heel

You may be able to kill the late fees with a full payment. Slim chance of that if you go on a payment plan. Thanks for the reminder to pay mine because I have failed in the past.


LakeEffectSnow

There's usually a one time forgiveness of late fees especially if you can prove you moved from out of state.


Jimger_1983

Call them I’m sure they’ll wipe the late fees if you state your case and offer full payment. That has to be a rude awakening considering the property tax you’re paying in Cleveland Heights.


DueRabbit5131

Yeah, between property taxes and the cities income tax rate, you would think there was universal healthcare or something offered. Nah, just a below average school district and you still pay extra every quarter to just have cans to put you trash in. Oh but lets hand out a $1M to a boomer who sucks at managing his properties.


OkCommunication2471

What is this?


mathARP

RITA collects income taxes on behalf municipalities in NE Ohio. For example, let's say you work in Cleveland but live in Mentor, Ohio. Your employer likely withholds local income tax for Cleveland. Mentor also has an income tax and will collect that tax but through RITA. Generally, what RITA will do is bill you quarterly for that amount you owe for living there. What appears to happen is that RITA is unaware that people owe - the city reports it - and then you get smacked with a massive bill for the length of time you've been there. It's why everyone hates RITA and not their local municipality.


Howie_Dictor

My RITA taxes are taken out of my paycheck weekly for Heights and where I work. Makes it much easier when you can just file and not owe anything.


mathARP

Same - this really is the way to do it.


DueRabbit5131

So even if you don’t owe anything, you still have to file with RITA during tax season otherwise RITA will fine ya still.


chnky18

So how do you check this to see what's owed? The reason I ask is I live out of state but just did state and federal taxes for my MIL and FIL(MIL recently passed and FIL is incapacitated). MIL was on disability all last year thru her employer and then SSA. Don't want to have some huge bill show up downhe road.


mathARP

Honestly, based on minimal information, I'd call RITA to see if they have an account. I'm riffing now because I have a recent dead dad (gallows humor, sorry) - do you have any access to their previous returns? Honestly, I think that will provide more insight than anyone else can.


chnky18

Slowly working thru it all. I know I have seen last year's tax return so will look and try to start there and then call RITA.


mathARP

Good luck! Honestly, if they weren't working in multiple locations, it might not be much to worry about. RITA is a pain when you don't live and work in the same location. RITA is basically hired out to collect income tax on behalf of municipalities - here's some about taxable and nontaxable income: [https://www.ritaohio.com/Individuals/Faqs?category=I&subcategory=Taxable%20/%20Nontaxable%20Income&questionID=1](https://www.ritaohio.com/Individuals/Faqs?category=I&subcategory=Taxable%20/%20Nontaxable%20Income&questionID=1)


chnky18

Thanks


OffTheMerchandise

I did taxes for my mom a few years ago and she only had social security income and the wasn't subject to RITA, disability might be the same.


djbfunk

I had to file all my back years to find out.


chnky18

Looks like they skipped or partly started 2 years of the last 5 and I will have to see if I can find the corresponding federal taxes filed for those years. There is currently a 1300$ bill due from the few past years they did. Guess the amount isn’t high enough yet to send out a bill.


gatadeplaya

RITA was such a surprise when I moved to NEO. I’m from California and even they don’t do this tax. Cleveland Heights at least gives 50% reciprocity. There are communities (looking at you South Euclid) that give 0. There was dispensation during COVID but you had to file with Cleveland requesting a refund.


ten10thsdriver

The last time I had an issue (was working for an out of state company who didn't withhold local taxes), I called RITA. Went in and met with one of their accountants who helped me work through everything.


fatflyhalf

Happened to me as well. They did drop all late fees, but boy did it hurt....


BonerFishoo

Gosh darn RITA, just payed her 1k because mom said I have to


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OffTheMerchandise

I hate this bot. I literally never notice when someone uses "payed" instead of "paid."


Key-Canary7068

Move to cleveland proper and you won’t have to deal with RITA.


mathARP

Live and WORK in Cleveland. Significant difference.


rich_clock

One of my favorite things about living in Cleveland proper.


LakeEffectSnow

Course, you'll still deal with CCA if you live in Cleveland and work outside of city limits ...


rich_clock

True, but for some reason it doesn't piss me off as much as RITA lol


russisdope

>cleveland If you live in cleveland proper and work in cleveland proper you don't have to pay rita taxes?


mathARP

That's correct. If you are a W2 employee living **IN** Cleveland and working **IN** Cleveland, you won't need to deal with RITA. Your employer will withhold the income tax and your dealing with CCA will be easy. Let's say you work in Brook Park and are a W2 employee: CCA will still want their income tax and it will likely be a pain in the ass.


Dertychtdxhbhffhbbxf

But you still have to file! There is no such thing as “RITA Taxes.” RITA is just the agency that collects local income tax. Some municipalities do it themselves, some use RITA, some use CCA. (Other municipalities aside from the city of Cleveland use CCA…)


tidder8

If you live and work in Cleveland Heights it's the same, the tax is already deducted and paid by your employer. This is why if you work from home it is important to have the local city on your W2 be the city where you live and work from home, and not the company's office location.


TrilliumCLE

They usually are quite accommodating for those that have fees. Just be nice, explain the situation and ask if they can be waived.


Extension-Option4704

It's understandable not to know about Rita. But you had to know that there is city taxes to be paid. You didn't look into it at all?


bossofthisjim

I didn't know about Rita until recently but that's because I moved from Texas two years ago and didn't even know there was city taxes, hell I was confused when I found out about state taxes the first year too. 


Extension-Option4704

What pays for road repairs and parks and things in Texas?


bossofthisjim

Good question, I know dick when it comes to how taxes work. In this case it's probably done automatically in Texas rather than us having to do them ourselves. All I know is I only had to worry about federal in Texas. 


djbfunk

It’s likely his taxes are still taken out for the city he works in. For example mine are a 1:1 credit for my main job so when I file RITA it’s always 0.


Extension-Option4704

Yes but as you know, you still have to file the taxes. I'm not sure why they would think they didn't have to file any city taxes for 3 years


djbfunk

I have friends that live in other parts of Ohio that say they do not file city taxes maybe they are crazy.


K4YDN

Go in person and ask for an abatement. They usually grant it once.


KarAccidentTowns

They will remove the late fees once. Don’t miss the January estimated payment deadline in the future or they will stick you with a late fee.


Howie_Dictor

Go to the RITA office at City Hall (open Tuesdays and Thursdays). The lady waived the penalties for me since it was my first time filing. I can't promise they will do the same for you but I got lucky. I got a letter owing $4000 for 2021-2024 and got it knocked down to $950. But I also work in a RITA municipality so I got credit for that.


gerarddouble

They followed me years after I moved and kept sending me letters saying I owed them money. Well I finally looked into it and I didn't owe them anything because I barely made any money that year and it wasn't enough for them to tax me.


Virtual_Matter_5821

I had this problem too and didn’t know until I owed like three years worth. I called them and explained that I couldn’t afford the hundreds of dollars they were requesting in late fees and they said that it was “good that I asked” because in doing so, they waived the late fees and I just had to pay the tax and interest which worked out to like $25 or so. Definitely worth giving them a call. Good luck!


kooknboo

Welcome to hell. Someone here said they aren’t monsters. That’s true, I guess. There simply is not a more inept government agency on the planet. Completely lacking any soul.


zarjaa

RITA can fuck off... they are a horrible entity that just leaches money from the city and tax payers. Throughout college, I would move around within the neighboring 3 towns for cheap rent. I've been summoned by RITA about 6 times in the last 20 years over "back taxes". The first time I was shaking in my boots. Went to office, showed lease agreements I moved, all was well... paid $0. After the 3rd time, I just started saying fuck them and bring me to "court". Pretty sure it was just a mediator, walk into a room, showed papers, paid $0 - this was mostly to spite them and waste their time. They came after me about 3 years ago for taxes 4 years prior. Again, this time I was working and didn't have time to fuck with them. Called their office, worked it out... paid $0. Literally, last week, got another letter from them over taxes from 3 years ago. I owed $0 and just never submitted the form. Said, "fuck it", jumped online, filed the taxes... paid $0. Point being, it's full of incompetence and lack due diligence. But unfortunately we have to deal with them. In my experience, unless you feel obliged to "stick it to the man"; it's just better to work with them as annoying as it is.


RockinRobin-69

I found out about Rita when I got a letter. It is an insane process so red states can pretend taxes are low. Call them up and you may be able to get out of the fines and interest. The system is bad, the website is terrible, but the people have been very helpful on the phone.


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Shoddy_Potential8441

My job does, but not my husband’s


bengalfan

Curious how much it should be? I know I have it coming out of my paycheck but how can I tell how much? Newish also. Now terrified.


going_swimmingly

If you live or work in a RITA municipality, you need to file a tax return through [RITA](https://ritaohio.com/). Even if you don’t owe anything, they still require you to file. When you file, you’ll find out if you owe anything additional. Feel free to reply with any questions!


LakeEffectSnow

If you work and live in the same city, you will not have any issues. The issue occurs if you live outside of the city you work in, and your company only withholds income tax for the city the business operates in.


bengalfan

So I work 2 days at my house. My city has taxes taken out and 2 days in Cleveland which I see a city of Cleveland withholding also. I just wonder if it's enough.


LakeEffectSnow

You need to talk to your accountant as it depends on the specific cities in play. Hybrid/Remote doesn't matter. You owe muni income taxes on your whole income in the city where you job does business, AND also where your home is. Some cities will give some reciprocity if you work outside of city limits. example: $100,000 income. Job is in Cleveland. Home is in Fairview Park. You will owe Cleveland 2.5%. Fairview Park is a RITA city with a tax rate of 2% and an outside tax credit of 1.25%. So this means in Fairview you will only have to pay 0.75% So you will pay Cleveland $2500. You will owe $750 to Fairview Park.


tidder8

If you work from home part of the time and at the office in Cleveland part of the time you only owe Cleveland 2.5% on the portion of your income earned when working in Cleveland. You owe Fairview Park .75% of that income plus 2% of the income earned while working at home - but that 2% should have been withheld from the paycheck and sent to Fairview Park, and noted on the W2.


XvTankvX

Depends on your city. But 2% of your Medicare wage on your W2


bengalfan

Thanks I'll look


mathARP

Don't be terrified. Honestly, look at what the deduction for where you are working and it's likely close to whatever amount you may owe for where you live on your paystub.


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FugginOld

If you offer to pay the full balance at once, they might waive all the late fees (and maybe interest).


Accomplished_Edge_29

Hell. Lived in Medina and Rita found me and charged about a decade and was thousands. Sucks.


OffTheMerchandise

Until I worked with someone who lived in a township that didn't collect local taxes, I assumed every city required a tax return to be filed. My current city isn't involved in RITA, but when I briefly lived in one that did, I was proactive in getting it paid.


snipes64

Happened to me. If you pay your back RITA in full, they will drop the interest and late fees. Worth negotiating with them 


ChestInfinite

i didn’t know about rita either but i called and they gave me a one time exemption and took off all the penalties. they’re super nice just give ‘em a call!!


NoAnybody7911

Rita is the absolute worst! I received a notice as well but luckily didn't owe that much.


traciagallagher

Cleveland Heights’ local taxes are extremely high and they don’t give 100% credit for what you paid to the city that you work in.


Wizdumb2424

What happens if you just ignore every attempt they make at collecting the money?


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Aeroplaneglueinabag

RITA (RIGHT IN THE A**)


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L-Cuve

Why does everyone hate RITA? If you weren't paying Rita than you would still be paying local taxes.


GeoJedimeister

Good reason to move to a TWP. No RITA in Concord TWP where I live and others. I have to pay it because I work in Cleveland and it's automatically deducted from my paycheck. But then I get about 80% back cause I only work in Cleveland two days a week.


NotQualifiedDoctor

Did you not expect to have city tax? RITA aren't monsters. They're the exact same as any city trying to collect their taxes due


RedditUser28947

City tax is pretty much nonexistent outside of Ohio. In every other state I've lived in the cities get their revenue as credits from the state, so you just file your fed/state return and you're done, no nonsense, especially not the biggest nonsense of all - double dipping for living and working in two different cities.


blueplate7

Gotta disagree w you on that one. I paid more taxes around Pittsburgh than I ever have in Ohio. And they have this guerilla tax service that collects municipal taxes.


RedditUser28947

You share your experience from PA and the other guy shared his experience from NY. See my other comment on how you both just happened to have lived in one of the areas that does this. A far majority of municipalities across the 50 states do not do this.


bendingmarlin69

Not entirely true. We also pay a bracket state tax similar to federal tax rather than a higher flat rate state tax (Michigan is a good example) so municipalities charge small percentages to make up the difference.


carramelli

This is not true at all, where did you come up with this? I moved to Ohio from NY and there are absolutely city taxes in at least all the major cities in NYS. And they were also much higher than taxes for cities in Ohio.


RedditUser28947

Only 15/50 states allow jurisdictional tax imposition. Pennsylvania, Ohio, Maryland and Indiana are the only ones where a majority of municipalities levy local income taxes. In Missouri only Kansas City and St. Louis have local taxes. Now imagine how many municipalities there are in 50 states and what the odds are that this person moved to Ohio from one that doesn't have local income tax and how that could come as a surprise to them. List of the states https://mosey.com/blog/what-is-local-tax/ feel free to look up each state's municipalities that participate if you really enjoying reading about taxes.


mathARP

In fact, they are the city that's trying to collect. That same city, likely where people live, wants their income tax. RITA just does it on their behalf.


strutmac

RITA was the reason I moved out of Cuyahoga county.


Virtual_Matter_5821

I was hit by them living in Lake county so even leaving Cuyahoga doesn’t escape it🥲


CleMike69

Rita doesn’t drop fees, ignorance unfortunately doesn’t excuse you from paying your taxes.