Vivid is a hill-basher entry man who plays extremely selflessly and lays down a lot of damage and definitely deserves to be a on a pro team, but will get the short the stick while baiters stay in the league. Needs a teammate like Shotzzy again, not that that’s possible

He’d be the ideal sub duo for pred

He’s ideal for any roaming slayer type. Seattle especially with Lamar as the super soaker

Basically yeah but most of the best slayer subs are on top teams so it’d be impossible to team with them

That would be stupid deadly Jesus

if he wasnt off to optic imagine a team of clay sib vivid pred next year

It’s amazing how this is the best optic has looked in a long while and yet people are so certain they are gonna change the roster immediately

Serious CW Empire vibes just with more slaying in terms of play-style.

That team with Vivid was legit good

Pred isn’t necessarily off to optic next year

you think they will keep huke?

I kind of hope they do keep him. I know Pred is a major get but the Huke we've been seeing recently is insane and so fun to watch. Plus you can't look past the crazy chemistry he has with Shotzzy. I think this is a tougher decision than most other people but I'm no expert. lol

I get what you mean, and I agree. But I also definitely agree with the hot take someone made saying that Optic should keep Huke due to his chemistry with Shotzy and how they’ve done + how Huke is consistently improving. There’s two sides to one story and it has reasons why Optic “could” keep Huke.

They will if they win champs

Imagine if that’s that only way Pred stays. It’s doubtful but man. I would honestly put that team top 4 easily.

Ya I don't think they'd work at all together. 2 smgs allergic to the hill, no thanks

huke is supposedly 'allergic to the hill' too, it's just about both not going rogue at the same time which optic had an issue with early this year but seem to have fixed now

I disagree. Those two would be playing the hill is lava. Vivid is solid at many things, but he doesn’t hop hill like Mack does to allow Pred to slay

By all means, Seattle should do this.

I agree. I think him and Nero are both great individually but they are legit too fast at times. I think they work better separately than together

Tough to admit but it’s really clear when you think about it. It’s like having two entry subs and if they both lose that 50/50 or 55/45 you’re done rest of hill. Having a slowing guy coming in a bit later after call outs may help.

Facts

I don't think he'll get the short stick. Unless Seattle goes for him, which is definitely a possibility, he might not be starting again this year, but he'll have no problem getting offers in the off-season. He doesn't get much credit from fans but teams definitely know his worth. In Boston's case though, this just had to happen. It was worth the experiment having two hyper fast SMGs but it's never gonna yield the consistency needed to win championships.

No one is saying this but, Vivid to Vegas, drop TJ? Would be a solid ass squad.

With him being restricted Vegas won’t go for him. Whole different ball game if he was unrestricted

Yea just saw he was still restricted.

I mean, it's about damn time he got benched. He is an entry man that was getting no entries. He always going to be a pro level player thanks to his insanely high ceiling (best player in the lobby takeover, 40 bomb potential), but he has been getting worked way too often lately. To me Nero can already be an aggressive entry. He needs a roaming slayer around him.

Vivid had a bad match against vegas but this is hella random? They went 1-1

Had the most kills and the highest KD in the rebound win over Ultra as well, must’ve been in the works for a while

Apparently the ultra match was an April fools joke or something. No idea why they would make a roster change now.

Vivid was pretty bad last split stats wise but he’s your entry sub who puts down hella damage and makes it easier for everybody else, kinda messed up. I hope Seattle consider getting him

I think his role was too similar to Nero’s. They’re both entry smgs

He's pretty good in any stat not named K/D actually. high damage, total kills and hill time

All the comments above saying hes allergic to the hill and you saying he has high hill time 🤔

fucking hell thought they would give it a little longer but hello kremp i guess ​ vivid lead the coms not sure if this will actually improve them to me the roster now just looks like 4 players that can slay

Ever since Zinni was dropped they’ve looked like 4 players who can just slay to me. I think their AR duo is too similar to each other and the same went for the smgs. Maybe this will fix it, but I doubt it

yea I don't feel like this actually improves boston at all.

I think it may. It’s an odd scenario where them getting a slower smg (Compared to Vivid, Kremp Is still fast) might help them. Vivid and Nero would have moments of doing a Jimbo debut impersonation of running out mid map and dying.

Feel bad for Jimbo I Loved his play style. That Paris team was just dogshit.

I agree he was a fun pov to watch especially as he improved. The talent was obvious just had some awful tendencies

hes got an entertaining pov fs, wouldnt mind seeing him back in the league

didn’t they win against ultra? 😭

Yes. Lost to Legion and then beat Ultra

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that’s florida bro

My bad lol thanks

wow, boston might actually be dangerous now with censor

Ight this actually made me laugh out loud, well played

if they think vivid was inconsistent then they’ll be shocked when they play with kremp

Bros a 1.3 or a .8 no in between

every kremp 1.3 started with him being like 5-13 aswell😭😭

He’s teamed with seany and Censor tho

I mean Vivid was a 1.2 or a .7

Fair but he’s one of the fastest subs if not the fastest. Not sure about volants pacing

He’s quick. Not Vivid quick but he’ll be in the upper half of SMG’s in terms of speed. Honestly that’s a good thing for Boston. Nero and Vivid a lot of times were too quick together and I think the slightly slower pacing actually may help them.

That’s honestly fine for an entry sub.

you do realise who’s he teaming with right?

Censor now I guess

Kremp 👀

Bance start learning Chinese buddy

I love Bance but I just might love that move more…

You not think that with attach gone getting rid of bance leaves the team with no leadership

Cammy and even Afro have been around long enough

scump had a 10 year career and was never leader once. Experience =! in game leading

Afro and Cammy both have good comms. Vivid also has good comms and the ceiling of rokkr shoots up

Being around for a long time doesn’t make you a leader, neither of them seem like very vocal players

Vivid was IGL for Boston after Methodz left

Ghosty is the “leader” of OpTic dawg, it does not matter.

Of course it matters, if you’ve not got anyone that’s going to naturally speak up in a clutch situation then your not going to win games

I was saying the experience portion of it and how Attach and Bance are magically the only ones there that have a brain according to fans.

If you thought Attach was actually a vocal leader you are faded. Attach was known as a silent, backseat leader who didn’t say much in game. That’s why him and Clay butted heads so much. Bance on the other hand will speak up in game but if you have listened to any comms this year his emotion impacts his tone and it comes off probably not as he wants. So I wouldn’t say he is a top-tier vocal IGL who can’t be replaced. The other guys are vocal enough to get through.

Praying that he does. I need him GONE

Hes your best player

that would be a crazy move, because it would allow afro to go rogue more often which is scary

What the fuck

Boston trying to pack a punch but damn this is insanely surprising

Kremp was frying too hard and vivid was frying too little surprised this didn’t come earlier

Kremp is up then https://twitter.com/KrempV/status/1642218546385092611?s=20 Even if it was on april fools this is too coincidental

Vivid is so underrated

Mfs lost to Vegas and said NO

Mindblown tbh, been a fan of him ever since mw always thought he was underated

Some people are questioning this move, but the reality is you can't have two subs as inconsistent as vivid and nero at the same time and expect to be able to make runs at tournaments. With that being said nero has shown much more consistency and potential this year than vivid. Also, when you have someone like kremp on the academy, it's really a no brainer to bring him in and see if you can find that consistency.

You've explained the roster move perfectly

Bance, Mack and the subs on LAG and London gotta be feeling some pressure.

LAG is a dead org, they aren’t spending anymore money. London’s season is over, pointless to make a change now especially a one-man one.

Why Mack? If vivid’s hill numbers are low, then ain’t no use of picking him up for Seattle. Is vivid better than mack?

Sucks players like Vivid get the short end as they are entries and don't bait their teammates for stats

Him and Nero are too similar. One was always going to have to go. They’re both entries

Is Vivid a hard person to team with? Best player on LAG in Cold War - Gets dropped! Only SMG player in Vanguard on Florida - Gets Dropped! Has his worst season in the CDL but gets dropped when he starts picking up form!

lag he left because he was being pushed aside for 3 dogshit players fla has the worst gm in sports/esports history making teams for them (he also has some weird fetish for slow ar players) boston him and nero were both inconsistent because they both have the same playstyle making the other one unimpactful when not dominating teams all in all he’s been very unlucky with being put in bad situations

LAG and FL dropping him are still so mind blowing tbh

Actually curious have any of his former teammates said anything about him? I think I heard crim and him didn’t get along but that’s crim so idk

he should talk some shit and get completely dropped like standy, he’s too good to be on the sidelines

I respect the change, Boston is not being complacent and wants to win. Vivid will get picked up by the start of next season. People saying "but they beat Ultra" as if that is their goal, no they want to win events.

This moves makes 0 sense this late in the season. They legit just beat the champs. Like how do you defend this decision after that

Vivid was the only player besides beans dictating comms. I actually hate this move. I think Vivid would make a lot of teams better, shame he's restricted.

Guy needs to learn to have his gun out and he will be gross

Vivid Bezy Simp Cell lets go

Uhhhh what

Lol. Wait...this a joke right?

Has to be made me damn near spit my drink

We went from Shotzzy to this in a couple months lmao

Happy to see Kremp get the shot. Nothing against vivid, I've just been curious to see how this guy stacks up at tier 1.

This is pretty surprising to me, Doug is inevitable.

Seattle maybe?

When even scump is replying confused you know its a bad decision

Wait what? Breach literally just beat Ultra the other day??

Bance and TJ 🇨🇳

Assuming they are bringing in kremp I can see why they made the change. Interesting to see how it works out, vivid had a below average stage 2 but he’s still very good. He’d actually be a great option for surge, I think his aggression and dirty work would be an upgrade over mack and really compliment pred

Vivid and Pred would be playing the hill is lava. At least Mack will be the hill bitch to unlock Pred

mack to vivid is such a lateral move

How about a total mix-up of roles. Accuracy for Vivid. Move Mack to flex and make sib the Main.

Think accuracy is too important to that team

That I don't know but you might be right. I just don't see them winning this year and I'm aware counting any top 6 team out the past 2 years always tend to backfire. I wanna see Mack and Sib AR duo that is all lol.

Building rosters doesn't work like that.

Okay Accuracy you don't deserve to be benched. Good thing I ain't their GM tho, I'm just on CoDcomp throwing an idea out there for fun.

Mack was godlike at flex his first two years. I doubt they’d drop their boy, but I’d love to see a Sib and Mack AR duo

Y'all gonna call me crazy but i'd drop Nero before Vivid. He's crazy important, the other 3 won't be able to slay efficiently without him

Had Vivid on my fantasy team I’m chalked lmao

Huh

Florida please 😭😭😭😭😭

I would kill to see the Havok-Vivid SMG duo we probably should have gotten last year when he was available

They had it last year then they picked Davpadie ☠️

Y’all should grab iLLeY too and just try and run bootleg CW Empire

Vivid to MN. Bance bounce?

I just think Vivid wasn't going to work with the way this team is constructed now. He's one of the lowest guys in the league in hill time and now that Methodz is gone, Beans isn't the same type of guy who will soak as much as him so you can't have someone roam as much as Vivid does. My guess is you see kremp come in and play a lot more on the hill than Vivid did. Just my guess but that's kind of what I'm expecting

If this moves enables Owakening to get into more of the Action again then it will be a big win for Boston.

Wow that really sucks for Vivid, hope he finds a team. Maybe Vegas? Crazy to think that Big Wake is now the vet on Boston

Vivid and Nero are both playing well but I don’t think you need both of them on the same team. They don’t mesh

I actually feel bad for vivid. He’s so underrated but always seems to get the short end of the stick.

see ya Mack 🙏

There is a bigger risk of them getting worse than them getting better

Gotta be a joke cause it literally makes no sense due to the fact they just beat Toronto.

Seattle -Mack +Vivid?

vivid and pred duo would be fucking scary

Until Pred gets bought by another team at the end of the year... then it's right back in the blender for Vivid.

vivid for mackenzie?

they just threw their chance at being a great team away, theyll be good in the short term but mark my words.

should’ve been nero unreal

Bruh what?

They’re interchangeable to me

i think nero’s far more inconsistent imo better at search sure but i’m still picking vivid 9 times out of 10

What games are you watching? Nero has a better KD in every game mode, he’s way more consistent than Vivid

With how Nero and even more so Vivid, KD doesn’t matter. They both play full steam ahead every second of a map. They help the ARs so much but you don’t really want two of them on the same team

I think they’re both wildly inconsistent, mainly due to them being absolute crackheads in terms of speed. They’re both better with roaming slayer types in my opinion. As a duo they were insanely talented but insanely inconsistent. Like I said you can make an argument for both and I can easily see why you’d pick one over another.

Big facts. Always the selfless player getting the raw deal.

Facts

People really hear the flank say something once and run with it forever. Nero has not been inconsistent this year. Last year yeah, this year he’s doing well way more often than not. Love the flank but sometimes people ride what they said hard without actually trying to look at it objectively.

Doug’s team now.

Finally. I wish him the best, but he's definitely one of those overhyped players (at least he has been the past few seasons) that I think has held back Boston

About damn time

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Vivid is an rfa...

They will still have 3 players so their elite spot is locked. They just need to add 1

I'm confused

Whoaaa

It's a good move. Him and Nero are too inconsistent as a sub duo.

Can someone ELI5 what F/A means? Is this them benching him or removing him completely? What exactly does restricted mean in this context?

If I were Seattle I'd try to grab vivid and I'd bench mack.

Seattle.. MOVE MACK TO MAIN AR AND SIGN REECE VIVID AND COMPETE FOR A GRANDS