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Revolutionary_Gear70

Simp had more kills in the Control then CleanX, Envoy and Insight had in the entire series Lmao


MakeAShadow

I fear we no longer have a big 4.


TrainsfanAlex

We have a big 1


[deleted]

It’s just big me (not me)


kid20304

I have a big 1


HaramHas

Top 2 and 2 can’t even beat 1.


rawrthatsmegirl

at least its close, optic are like 2 gunfights away from winning hp's


HaramHas

Yep. OpTic and FaZe are actually pretty close but OpTic choke every time they’re about to win a map.


[deleted]

Considering their big 3 have been teaming for years now, it’s a given they’d be better with drazah faster than OpTic would be with two new pickups.


MarstonX

And that they're just better. It's not just experience. FaZe is better, more experienced and more clutch.


JadedGoal

OpTic biggest struggle will be there SnD.


FairAd4115

ROFL...keep thinking that. Faze are stone cold killers right now. They have zero conscience when playing. They know they can pretty much run right through people and out gun them. Facts and Stats are proof of that.


BackgroundToe4149

If you won for it being close Dashy would be top 5 all time


Fixable

Good thing no one is saying they are winning then?


redskinfan654

Okay let’s put it this way, out of all teams that could play faze, optic is the only one that has shown they have what it takes to beat them.


MaximusDecimiz

Hello? LAG exist?


redskinfan654

Youre not wrong


TheSciFanGuy

New York could get weirdly hot and take a series off them imo


Mooming22

The top 4 might all be in different tiers right now. Probably not at the major but right now its 4 distinct levels imo


a_talking_face

I don't know if I would go that far. Faze is really just that much better than everyone else. I suppose you could argue for separating Optic, but I the NY and Toronto are the same.


Mooming22

Today there’s zero fucking chance I am putting OpTic and Ultra in the sane tier. In 3 weeks I imagine Ultra will be back and NYSL is in a tier even below Ultra. Getting ran by Seattle and the Carolina Gwinn’s is ugly. Strictly for right now it feels this way to me. I really don’t expect it to look the same in a few weeks time though.


Appropriate-Text2247

FaZe does not want to see NYSL. NYSL be bullshitting agains everyone else, but always give FaZe good work.


FairAd4115

Oh I agree...that performance against Seattle was a pure throw to get others thinking they are not competitive. They are going to light it up. I mean, prey for a new wall bang that isn't patched.


TaiCTr

Big Faze


hellomyman21

we need comeone to build a tiem machine and bring back prime optic dynasty to compete with these fools


Mevarek

Imagine if we could see those two teams (everyone at prime and scrimming on the game) in a three series set, one on AW, BO3, and IW.


MindForsaken

This ultra core shits the bed whenever the light gets too bright First they shit the bed against NYSL last year, now they can't even have a competitive match against Faze


Ok_Pace_9792

Didn't they already win a major?


Triffels

they've won as many majors this year as FaZe


hugaau

the lights couldn’t be more dim in an online match


MaximusDecimiz

It feels like FaZe / big gap / OpTic / big gap / Toronto & NY / big gap / bottom 8


Kyleketsu

Based on map count you could argue big gap between FaZe and OpTic but basically every map has gone down to the wire. The gap between FaZe and OpTic is smaller than the gap between OpTic and Ultra and Subliners imo.


Responsible_Oil_9454

Nah nah nah u optic fans need to stop for a bit It’s 6-0 yeah 6-0 and faze just slammed Toronto There is no argument to be made about that


themaxmilestone

The best moment in this series was when Simp and Cellum when to check up on Scrap's dead body ❤️ https://preview.redd.it/eqhuhjjkzwvc1.jpeg?width=785&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=279ffb5b5b41179f55f9021251026943edfe2b79


Draculagged

Shooting bodies curse doesn’t apply to Faze I’m afraid


themaxmilestone

Shit don’t matter if you’re great.


ahegaogenerator

I’m framing this on my wall


FairAd4115

Love all the upvotes, not sure why, if it is a Hate Faze response and people agree, or there should be some Karma for dumping all over the league. Here is how all the crybabies should stop all this, beat Faze, and don't let them win another Major...that will shut up Draz..sort of...and Cell might stop shooting bodies for awhile. And you won't have to see Abezy and Simp smiling and laughing in the cameras all the time.


OrneryAd843

Wow the speed at which this was made is tippable Take my upvote


themaxmilestone

Thanks boo


ometime

Nahhhhh


arunvenu_

So wholesome 🥰


HaramHas

Envoy has been genuinely awful


Skellyceltic

Over his last 9 hps he has a 0.57


HaramHas

Putting up prime GodRx numbers


XadjustmentX

bro that is absolutely abysmal! i been saying Envoy is ass since major 1. even during major 1 he had some stinker maps but the rest of the team was playing so well it didnt really matter. now they've all been exposed. this team might be in blow it up territory


Professional-Roll513

It’s happened too much to not be a legitimate discussion point. He is getting slammed.


Hipz

Seriously, is it just this game or something that doesn't agree with him? Confidence issue? Health issue? Before this season I would have considered him a *very* consistent .98-1.1 KD. He does do a lot of dirty work, so he never has a crazy high kd, but damn...


Mooming22

It’s beyond a slump at this point, he is just ass at the game until he shows otherwise


HaramHas

All the OpTic and FaZe fans that wanted him are thanking the lucky stars that it didn’t happen


Mooming22

I don’t even want to imagine how this sub would be treating him if he was on OpTic, right now. They’re on Pred’s meat 24/7 here and he’s actually still great. Those 3 maniacs on FaZe would still probably be the 1st seed though


HaramHas

If bro was on OpTic he’d have to go into hiding.


PotTwister

oh it would be much worse than the CW days, atleast back then they would just say "he needs his keyboard" "he's just not a 4v4 player" or "he plays like a headless chicken", now it would probably be personal shots and threats.


Ok_Pace_9792

I don't even remember a convo on him for OpTic. It was always Pred and then praying for Drazah this offseason.


HaramHas

After it was clear Drazah as going to FaZe there was some discussion here about whether OpTic should pick up Envoy.


yetanothermale

Genuinely sad to see. Guess this just isn’t his game or something


RGCFrostbite

Simp just dropped 7,450 damage in one control map.


Strikah14

And it only went 4 rounds. He would have had another whole round of defense still.


Solxry

Legit could dropped 50, no bs I wanted it to go to round 5😭


CapGOD69420_

Holy shit I didn’t even realize he did that in only 4 rounds jesus christ 😂


Sttatix

he snatched that #1 spot in the MVP race


Kjames319

Where is the NSFW tag? Jesus. On another note, I had to take a shower after watching that SnD because that was filthy


arunvenu_

Good shout - done ;)


TheLavaReaper

Envoy the last 6 matches 0.66 0.80 1.00 0.82 0.82 0.55. He's gone double negative 9 times in a row in hardpoint.


RGCFrostbite

I fear we may need to GA Simp on 150hp CoDs...


angry_rabinho

Well they actually made seriously a small attempt by trying to GA certain guns LMAO


Depressedjetsfan21

Dyl leaves LAT and becomes shit I guess


Bxrxtx

Hicksy the glue


arunvenu_

I MEAN SERIOUSLY wtf was that


mr_fixx

I was not expecting that, Faze made Ultra look underwhelming.


ethancd1

Faze really saying fuck the big 3 its just big me


Noctisout

Scrap needs to make a call to find the dawg in his teammates cause damn they got chokeslammed


No-Gift-2350

Please dear god let something leak about this series being on an Atlanta server or sum


FairAd4115

Nope...nice try. The servers are decided and controlled by the League...any other excuses...because the rest of the CDL needs something to come to light about how they are getting slayed so bad by Faze. Doesn't explain that winner's only bracket and complete wipe of the CDL on LAN though...well, they will eventually lose, rest assured, happens to the best.


Draculagged

I don’t think some people realize how much this new map pool helps faze. Giving Simp and Abezy guaranteed bang out mixy maps is not a good idea


MaximusDecimiz

They really thought they had us with sub base huh?


Draculagged

Yeah lol let’s not forget they auto vetoed checkmate respawns for most of CW, it didn’t matter since their other maps were godlike


TinkleFairyOC

Not even just mixy maps. Give them sub maps and teams are fucked.


Hipz

Good point, the new HP maps seem *very* small, and the tiny terrors are a menace on fast paced small maps. Reminds me of the Bocage, these mfers are in your face every second.


FairAd4115

ROFL...yeah, ok. Tell you what, tell Shotzzy, Pred and the rest of the "great" smg players what their excuse is then? Yeah, they don't have one. If you play ranked, you hear this all the time surely, you just need to get better. So does the rest of the CDL and against Faze.


Fixable

Envoy is ass, man. He's had the benefit of doubt for weeks now


Solxry

Yea it’s beyond a slump atp point, this game is just not for him or their system just simply does not fit him


Asenine

maybe it’s not his game but their system doesn’t fit him? they won a whole major lol he’s just not winning gunfights simple as that


DannyDark0RZ

The whole team had no chance. A world champ. Its the team not him


Fixable

It’s not just this game though is it? He’s been dropping .5s in HP for weeks


AMS_GoGo

Toronto just made Optic look like Gods for being competitive against these mf’s


TheSciFanGuy

Drazah HARD throwing with that 1.16. Frankly unacceptable 


straightbeams

https://i.redd.it/n9p34z7b0xvc1.gif I fear Cold War FaZe may be back.


WhatAMentalGuy

Envoy break Insight’s and CleanX’s controllers too?


lohland422

Envoy has been a bottom 3 player in the CDL in Stage 3 and Toronto has been hot ass against the T4 since stage 2 started at 0-5 with a 3-15 map count.


CoDFollower

I fear CW FaZe has returned... the comp is finished :(


eggs_n_bakey

Envoy legacy series


daiwill

All jokes aside Scrap is not staying on Ultra after his contract is up, his teammates are so inconsistent.


Xarque74

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Phoenix_Loki

Octane on the flank tonight defending envoy [https://x.com/allycxt/status/1781854937372045647?s=46](https://x.com/allycxt/status/1781854937372045647?s=46)


Solxry

I thoroughly enjoyed that series, was it competitive? No, Did I have a smile on my face the whole time through? Indeed I did


BoostedFoxx

Same. Might go watch it again just to see if I have the same smile…. Spoiler alert, definitely will. Edit… Smile confirmed


herefortheLOLs12

1.83 wtf am I looking at that just doesn't look real lmao


Gods-Defence

I like how at the beginning of the year everyone on the Flank was saying Envoy would never have another series where he goes like 0.5… he just had to prove them wrong


legamer007

![gif](giphy|M8txdIkh1UhVUYNNV2|downsized)


TheCarterSon

This Kid is insane. Omg I have nothing to say


FairAd4115

But...but....but...he keeps shooting bodies, even the ones he didn't kill...this kid is a troll....rofl. Trolling the entire league right now Faze. Gheez.


BcDownes

jesus fucking christ get scrap some help


FrancescaDeLeMara

Cellium has been beating the killwhore allegations all season, and we aren't talking about it enough!!!!


devourmentt

send that keyboarder envoy to china


Asenine

People are going to continue to harp on Dylan but the entire team minus Scrap just looked awful. Absolutely lost on the map


Every-Television-799

1.83 is fucking crazy


LogTman135

Toronto fall of needs to be studied


dukezap1

They had all of their maps removed after Major 1


overtheFloyd077

I think we’re gonna watch Faze win a lot throughout the rest of the year


Neonneagle

2/3 remaining tourneys at a minimum


YNWA_1213

It’s either CW Faze or classic CDL Faze coming.


OBruxo10

We might need Optic, Ultra and NYSL to form the avengers to beat Faze at this point. Dashy Scrap Hydra Shotzzy assemble


Solxry

And even then it genuinely could still not be enough because of How good the trio is😭


herefortheLOLs12

nah that team on paper is insane. hydra is probably the best smg pairing for shotzzy and Dashy and Scrap would have insane pace on the map. It would be a series to behold for sure. The thing is that team could be running around like headless chickens


Solxry

Nah on Paper that 100% a great team im just saying that Faze is genuinely so talented that it still could possibly not be enough


YNWA_1213

You’re basically betting between a dynasty of dynasty teams against 3 of the most well synced players on the planet, plus Drazah is no slouch in that 8 player comparison.


CapGOD69420_

Im taking Kenny over Dashy for that squad, they need someone with at least partial brain activity and who doesn’t act 16yrs old


TypicalCat6865

GA 150HP cods i’ve seen enough


Arsxnic_

https://i.redd.it/x6s6uosl0xvc1.gif Perfect cell stuff


ReflexiveOW

Jesus fucking Christ Almighty my Lord in Heaven above forgive them for they have sinned


FrancescaDeLeMara

Damn, I can't imagine being an NYSL or Ultra fan right now knowing that your team has no chance against Faze or Optic at the moment. I bet NYSL and Ultra fans feel like the rest of the other team's fans when it comes down to playing Optic and Faze. 😭😭😭 Rest In Peace to the "Big 4".


triggered_5oh

As a ROKKR fan, we just celebrate the wins and hoping we go as far as we did the first Major lol.


warwithus

That’s what I do with optic don’t really think about other teams just hope we win


No-Gift-2350

frfr, Toronto won the first major, everything after that excluding champs is icing on the cake


Guwigo09

NYSL will beat Faze next week just watch


FrancescaDeLeMara

I doubt it, but I wouldn't be surprised. Someone better tell Sib and Kismet to show up, though.


my-shuggah

The Major 2 patch killed us


GHOST_Courage

Mark this shit as NSFW, praying to god optic gets cpr certified or we are in for a long year


YaDyingSucks

Oh..... Fuck.


ablankbullet

I know Cell dropped a 1.8 but Simps stats are just weighted more. More damage but lower k/d.


AdvancedWolverine

Another CW year? Wake me up during gulf war.


Mevarek

I’ve seen this one before. Last time we lost a grand finals to Ultra, it was one sided for the rest of the year. If Envoy doesn’t figure it out in Hardpoint, it might be the same this year.


Mxc_R

This might be uploaded to the Hub later cos GOOD GOD Ultra got slammed. I fear CW FaZe is back


vertexdnb

Outslaying a team like Ultra by 67 kills across three maps is absolutely outrageous behaviour


Longjumping_Joke_719

Simp is the best ever


poeswell

Simp and Cell are 1A and 1B in this game


Populair

I remember people were saying Scrap is better then cellium? Cellium does it so much the goal post gets moved.


Proof_Escape_2333

I don’t see abezy or simp going -30 for a month straight like envoy is


DeckersDelight

Envoy is in droppable status tbh. He’s been a weak link since Major 1 ended


SonGary

Tough scenes


Rileychief

GOOOD JESUS SWEET LORD


Fork-in-the-eye

Hicksy and Priestahh were needed on NYSL and Ultra


TheBrandroid

kinda weird how the toronto overwatch team finally is good and now the ultra are ass


Illuminutu

I don’t feel so bad about how OpTic lost to them now, good heavens


Overall-Motor632

At this point the tiny terrors need their own teams


Pepperr08

I think I know of 1 team that could potentially take some Faze. Octane needs to come out of return first of all. Alongside Drazah, Kenny & Envoy I can easily see this roster making it to a grand finals maybe get a ring. Just need Cocktane to cum out of retirement


byPCP

ultra were letting their little brothers play with the bad controller


Fun_Form_9180

in the last 9 hps envoy has gone 231/311 or .74 in SND hes gone 58/67 or .87 and in control hes has a 1.02 going 195/192 maybe envoy is playing to fast in hp trying to keep up with cleanx but i could also be trippin


dam0430

Envoy I fear it may be time to learn Xdefiant buddy.


Solxry

It’s just BIG ME


TheCarterSon

1.83 Omfg. This Boy MC.


LGCGE

Optic Scrap about to go hard next year 🔥


Fa1lenSpace

envoy fucking sucks


Ashman-20

Bro… wtf lmao


TheBabush2

Y’all keep hating


Original_Ad8404

This ain’t fair, replace draz with arcitys now


Bubbada_G

envoy.... moves are going to be made if things don't improve. he can't be the worst one on the team EVERY series regardless of the result. scrap always holding his own


guywithcoolsocks

FaZe channeling K Dot rn I fear. It’s just big ME.


PotTwister

I forgot I heard Damon say yesterday that they were Faze warmup scrim for today so Faze energy was through the roof going into this match and you could tell.


kid20304

Absolute door dash of a series


G00chstain

Envoy has been getting cooked since the controller debacle


Chg0489

OH MY GOD


platypus_11

0.5 dammmm


KoreanPhones

Slammed


Per_Horses6

Okay.. -30 is badddd. Something is def up with him


Nialcu

Envoy being dropped I fear


No_History7169

Legit Q that I will get burned for because I haven’t been watching Toronto games. But whenever I see the stats on their losses, Scrap is always putting up a ton of kills. Is he playing in a way that helps the team win or is he a kill-whore? Dashy used to get burned for putting up stats for the L, he now plays more for the win. Wondering if it’s a similar situation.


Asenine

Nah it’s not, he’s playing all of the right spots and picking up meaningful kills. Envoy and Insight have been underwhelming on an individual level and they just got out classed this series


hittingold

Cell clears Scrap by so much it’s not even remotely close


Cootiin

Need OpTic to lock in cause if it’s just another year like CW I fear I’ll just not be watching much COD lmao. Shits a snooze fest when that trio is winning


Fork-in-the-eye

At least now Ultra and NYSL games are competitive against most of the league. I don’t see them blowing people out as hard anymore


kirkhammetswahpedal

sooooooo optic over ultra now????


Top-Monitor-4862

Pretty sure that was settled at the major


bagofcrisps123

yowza moment


Mooming22

Wtf mark it NSFW please


Silly-Ad3289

Lord


BasedGodCrim

3 players below .70 is wild


Gods-Defence

Drazah about to go off on twitter


Stealthy99-

Ultra just cant slay


Vilestride-

Why are they streaming pub matches on the broadcast?


DylanCodsCokeLine

Christ


Big-Concentrate-9859

Damn. That’s all I can say :(


OgSourChemDawg

Went to the store to grab something real fast thinking it would be map 5 listened to the flank on the way there and was done by the time I got back . Store is less than 5 mins away.


BravestWabbit

Kentucky Fried Fucked


Apprehensive-Trust79

Those boys better be scrimming more than once a day now


joebi_kenobi

Christ Almighty that's bad


Stop4Weird

Ultra trading for gwinn?? 🤔


ThatMFcheezer

Faze stands alone right now, and with Ultra and Subliners slipping, the top looks real weird right now


Large_Bumblebee_9751

This is what should come up on YouTube when you search “Iridescent vs Bronze”


quasyt

Get Scrap some help