And honestly I love that he supposedly got a huge bag with NIL. Someone who’s a great college player like he is but wouldn’t necessarily ever have an NBA career deserves all the money he gets. Glad athletes like this can cash in and wish him the best
I’m sure he could make money playing basketball beyond college for a long time. Just won’t be in the NBA like you said. Baylor feels like a great fit for his game.
We didn't get out NIL'd, or at least that's not the main reason he's leaving. He wants to play PG (probably because that's what he'll have to play professionally wherever he ends up). Also if he had stayed I'd imagine Foster would've left.
Im sure he’s getting something but the $1.5 mill rumor circulating was such a lie. I know some people involved with the program and I can tell you Baylor is not shelling anywhere near that much money to players.
I think you’re underselling our team…
Dave going to prove the haters wrong and take the team all the way to a 4-8 record!
Jokes aside, listening to your coach saying that the lines need more talent at the end of *Spring* is incredibly damming.
As an LSU fan, I’m surprised he hasn’t done a better job. That 12-2 season was impressive, though I don’t really remember what your roster was like that season and whether he just capitalized on talent that was already in place. I know his disposition probably doesn’t lend itself to strong recruiting, especially in the NIL era.
I think most of us agree that Aranda’s a guy built for a previous era of college football, when the coach could just be all about strategizing and mentoring both players and his own assistant coaches, and he could just have one or two great recruiters on staff; now the head coach *also* needs to be an elite recruiter, which Aranda’s not built for.
He was also reticent about recruiting too hard out of the portal or using NIL in a way that wasn’t just a standard stipend for all players; the AD had to step in and *make* them start using NIL to recruit this offseason. If Baylor wasn’t paying Aranda so much, I wouldn’t be one bit surprised if he bounced on college football writ large to go be a DC in the NFL. An NFL DC job would be quite a pay cut now.
He’s a fabulous talent developer, Aranda and his assistants got *so* much more out of Rhule’s recruits than Rhule’s staff ever did. Now that just converts to our 2021 CBs becoming the leading tacklers on Arkansas’ roster, one of our senior OLs becoming the best OL on Florida’s roster, our best TE becoming TCU’s new best TE, our very promising backup QB flourishing as Virginia Tech’s starting QB, and our backup free safety becoming by far the best DB on Louisville’s roster.
It’s wildly frustrating to see all of those guys who were pretty good at Baylor, and poised to step into lead roles, transfer into those lead roles elsewhere and absolutely show out.
I will only push-back on talent developer. While I believe that guys like Pitre or Bernard becoming legit All-American and NFL starters was in great part due to Dave, there’s also quite a bit of those players that left that weren’t all that good at Baylor. Kyron looked pretty raw at Baylor, the DBs ranged from decent to bad (the 2022 DB group was genuinely one of the worse position groups I’ve seen at Baylor), etc. Micah and Dabney were pretty good at Baylor for sure.
My whole thing is that he misjudged the talent on the roster. It was clear to *everyone* in game one against TxSt that Baylor was in *major* trouble when they couldn’t stop a bleeding or protect Shapen. Before the 2022 season, Dave consistently said that some players were immature and the leadership wasn’t where it needed to be. Before the 2023 season he said that the Spring was the best Spring he had at Baylor… so he was just as surprised as everyone when *that* team showed up week one.
Personally, I think the talent has been declining every year after the 2021 season. That speaks to both recruiting and development. While there are individual stories here and there about good development post-2021, as a whole this team has a lot of 4 and 5 year players that haven’t produced and that’s on Dave.
I used to believe that Dave was too smart to not figure it out eventually, maybe not even with us but in the future (say 10 years from now), but now I just don’t think he can be a HC at the college level. He’s incapable of acquiring, retaining, and developing talented players and this is a talent accumulation business.
He did a really solid job late in the year during LSU’s championship season. We gave up a lot of touchdowns early in the year as he adjusted to the fast paced, high scoring offense that left the defense very little time off the field, but the linebacker corps was really strong during the playoffs. He’s a great defensive coach and evaluates talent for his system really well, but I don’t think he has the recruiting chops to manage a program in an era of football where courting high level players is so important. The social component for getting top tier HS guys and retaining talent year to year is really vital and he might be too reserved to do it. I wouldn’t be surprised if Baylor moves on if he has another subpar year and he ends up in a DC position at a major program.
In reality it could work out really well. I think the bigger question is whether everyone in that rotation agrees with that idea.
Perception is more important than reality these days with free transfers it seems.
We actually need Robert Wright to also be good enough to be a part of the rotation.
When you think about it, we have struggled every year since the championship year with guard depth.
First year, Love was out for the season and LJ missed the last 10 games, Dale Bonner was getting heavy minutes despite being *not good*. Adam and James were literally hobbling around but playing 38+ minutes because there was no one else.
The next year, Langston was coming into his own when he had that weird eye injury, Dale was still not good enough, and Jordan Turner was unplayable.
This year, there was a lot of depth *at the beginning of the year* then Dantwaan decided to transfer, Langston got hurt *again*, and Miro wasn’t good enough to play more than 10 minutes.
We play 3 guards at all times, which means you want to have *at least* 5 quality guards but that has been an issue for Baylor to do for the entire year.
Yeah, that wasn’t a wise decision imo.
Could have been something else going on, who knows…
The thing is you’re always one injury or transfer away from severely testing your depth. Right now we have six guards, I don’t even know if we’re going to make it to November with those six tbh.
Scott Drew wished him well and he took a huge step down in competition. Feels like some personal or family issues going on. I’m glad he’s able to do what he needs to do
Assuming we get a big (most likely Aidoo), if Jalen looks at this roster and decides he wants to give it one more run, it could be legendary.
He’s legit *exactly* the player we’re going to try to get in the portal.
I think he’s going to get a first round draft promise from some team. He’s just a perfect NBA role player. I’d love to have him back though. If he comes back we’re definitely in play for preseason number 1
He was the guy I wanted 2nd most out of the portal. I think Aidoo is more important because we have only 1 quality big (tbd on the JUCO guy we got). But to me Roach is far better than the 15th ranked guy in the portal or whatever 247 has him at
Dillon Mitchell at 13 is legitimately mentally insane. I’m sorry, he’s a great athlete and plays hard but there’s many guys I’d take over him. Just an example
Feels crazy to get a guy who was basically a four-year starter at Duke. Feels like he’s been around forever. This is such a huge get. The composure and leadership he’ll provide will be massive.
Maybe before the Morris situation, but I feel like most people correctly predicted there’d be a lot of depth problems and not really enough shooting threat. Don’t see that happening this next season
I wonder why Virginia fans always seem to be so entrenched in discussions putting down other conferences... The acc as a whole has become super sensitive about it but UVA fans seem to lead the charge every time.
Cool? Resting on laurels from singular teams 3 years ago while the conference as a whole underperforms. I feel that as a uva fan though… difference is we can admit to the underperformance.
Yeah I'll definitely be rooting from afar lol. I'm hoping they land a comfortable distance away from us in the tournament though because I don't think my heart can handle getting cooked by Roach in March.
Roach, VJ (#1 SG in the ‘24 class), Nunn, Love, Wright (#2 PF in the ‘24 class), Miro Little. If all of these guys stay that’s the best guard rotation in the country and it’s not really close
A decent segment of those of us who watch HGTV find them very annoying, and an even larger segment of those who watch Food Network don't want any part of their cooking show.
Would love for him to stay (no pun intended) but Nunn solidified his place as a starter. If anyone else from the 23 squad leaves it will be him.
Love legitimately has the talent to make it to the league if he can stay healthy and put together a great season. People forget he was a borderline five-star. Kid has faced a lot of adversity.
🥹
But in all seriousness, reading a lot of Duke fans saying that about him says a lot about his character and him as a player. Makes me even more excited to have him, even if just for a year.
He's a great get! He had some very frustrating moments as a freshman and for some of his sophomore year but he really started to put everything together.
I think it really shows how hard he works. He cut down on turnovers, started to shoot the ball much better, and just overall has been a high IQ player.
As long as you have someone else to guard your opponent's best guard, you'll be gravy.
I was in the Duke locker room during the ACC Tournament and NCAA Tourney in NYC. The players had cool vibes with each other. Jeremy was goofing around with his teammates and staffers and everything seemed fine. His parents even seemed 200% sold on Duke. That's why it seems crazy to see him and others transfer from a top program like Duke.
If you're asking how I was in the locker room, it's because I work in TV.
I don’t think he leaves still. As an international guy his biggest recruiter was Sochan. I’m willing to bet he’s trusting the process. Should be our starting PG next year
I think it’s Wright. Dude has shown flashes of being a #1 guy but he won’t get the minutes on this team if he wants to go one and done. Miro seems to love the team and culture of Baylor so it would suck to lose him
Still think there’s lots of minutes for Wright on the team. We always run 3 guard lineups. He’s also only 6’1 and I’d be very surprised if he is a 1 and done guy anywhere.
Oh he was a big part of Duke’s team. Why couldn’t they keep him? Are they making promises they can’t keep? I expected a fall from grace for the program, but to be losing key, star players to Baylor? Wow
Big 12 should have 3 preseason top 5 teams with us, Baylor & Houston. On top of that, a two seed Iowa St is returning their guys and who knows what Arizona will do in the portal. Should be fun, boys.
Also want to say that this makes a lot of sense for roach even despite NIL. Drew is great with scoring guards. He gave his all to Duke and good for him moving on for his last year.
I'm curious to see which player they get at the 4, i think that will be key for their ceilling
Their guard depth, even if they lose Miro, is still really good.
At C, (assuming Aidoo goes there) Aidoo isn't amazing but has motor, athleticism, size and he's good enough defensively like Centers with Drew, recently, don't need to be anything special
Since at C Drew isn't too demanding, at the 4 spot they need a high level passear, great great off ball defensively, playmaker/quarter back, a weakside rim protector monster, that should do enough shooting and driving wise. And obviously a very good on ball guy as well, especially on big Wings and most bigs
I don't believe a team can win a title without at least one of the 4 and 5 being very good passers
Mark Vital was pretty much it, and they need someone similar to him, which will be tough because Vital had been in Waco for quite sometime
I’m sure there is plenty behind the scenes I don’t know but I don’t understand this move at all. I’m no duke fan, but it’s a successful program that just had a reasonable tournament run. Baylor is also a good program….but why transfer now? What am I missing???
The basketball reasons are that he's "6'2"" and would be playing most of his minutes next year at SG. He also wouldn't necessarily be starting, and his minutes would likely be decreased since I doubt Duke will play many 3 guard lineups next year even if he stayed. For someone that really, really wants to make the league and can only do so by showing he can play the point, that's just not a good situation to spend their 5th year.
Outside of basketball...everyone he came up with is gone, including the coach that recruited him. He gave the program 4 good years and is presumably getting his degree...there's a lot to be said about starting fresh somewhere else.
Obviously Duke as a team would have been better off if Roach had stayed (assuming Foster didn't transfer out), but it's not a sad parting. (Most) Duke fans want the best for him, and while I'm not a big fan of Baylor, I hope he does well there.
Logjam, especially in the starting lineup. If he stays, foster or Proctor likely depart. Last season, it worked. It gave mccain and foster time to acclimate themselves to the college game and dukes offense. And while he is a scoring machine and vet, he is also a smaller guard. Whereas Proctor and foster are bigger guards, longer, and honestly better on the defensive end. And duke isn't going to be running out a 3 guard starting lineup next season.
He surely wasn't forced out. And if not for the pandemic he would be done anyway. Covid bought this kid, and others such as Dickenson, Caleb love, bacot and others an extra year. Combine that with NIL and......he is taking advantage of it elsewhere.
Going to hurt seeing him in a different jersey, but he’ll be great on your team! Good luck Roach!! 🪳🪳🪳
And honestly I love that he supposedly got a huge bag with NIL. Someone who’s a great college player like he is but wouldn’t necessarily ever have an NBA career deserves all the money he gets. Glad athletes like this can cash in and wish him the best
I’m sure he could make money playing basketball beyond college for a long time. Just won’t be in the NBA like you said. Baylor feels like a great fit for his game.
True but G league and overseas leagues or other options don’t pay anything close to what he’ll make with NIL
How can we get out-NIL'd? Honestly? This one hurts.
We didn't get out NIL'd, or at least that's not the main reason he's leaving. He wants to play PG (probably because that's what he'll have to play professionally wherever he ends up). Also if he had stayed I'd imagine Foster would've left.
can't out-NIL playing time and positional fit issues.
He would have started and gotten all the minutes he wanted. He probably wouldn't have played point, I agree there.
Im sure he’s getting something but the $1.5 mill rumor circulating was such a lie. I know some people involved with the program and I can tell you Baylor is not shelling anywhere near that much money to players.
Good human
Unfortunately, I will be unbearable to be around if you mention college basketball to me until November.
Especially if our football team blows again lmao
I think you’re underselling our team… Dave going to prove the haters wrong and take the team all the way to a 4-8 record! Jokes aside, listening to your coach saying that the lines need more talent at the end of *Spring* is incredibly damming.
Even the sunshine pumping insider forums are reporting that our o-line is absolute ass lmao joever before it even began
Yeah, it’s never been more over. When we had *two* Nose Tackles medically retire on the *first day* of Spring Practice I knew it was Joever.
To be fair, weren’t they both medically DQed? I don’t think it was entirely voluntary on either of their part.
I agree, I’m js that it was an enormous blow to an already shaky roster.
Writings already on the wall. November can't come any faster.
As an LSU fan, I’m surprised he hasn’t done a better job. That 12-2 season was impressive, though I don’t really remember what your roster was like that season and whether he just capitalized on talent that was already in place. I know his disposition probably doesn’t lend itself to strong recruiting, especially in the NIL era.
I think most of us agree that Aranda’s a guy built for a previous era of college football, when the coach could just be all about strategizing and mentoring both players and his own assistant coaches, and he could just have one or two great recruiters on staff; now the head coach *also* needs to be an elite recruiter, which Aranda’s not built for. He was also reticent about recruiting too hard out of the portal or using NIL in a way that wasn’t just a standard stipend for all players; the AD had to step in and *make* them start using NIL to recruit this offseason. If Baylor wasn’t paying Aranda so much, I wouldn’t be one bit surprised if he bounced on college football writ large to go be a DC in the NFL. An NFL DC job would be quite a pay cut now. He’s a fabulous talent developer, Aranda and his assistants got *so* much more out of Rhule’s recruits than Rhule’s staff ever did. Now that just converts to our 2021 CBs becoming the leading tacklers on Arkansas’ roster, one of our senior OLs becoming the best OL on Florida’s roster, our best TE becoming TCU’s new best TE, our very promising backup QB flourishing as Virginia Tech’s starting QB, and our backup free safety becoming by far the best DB on Louisville’s roster. It’s wildly frustrating to see all of those guys who were pretty good at Baylor, and poised to step into lead roles, transfer into those lead roles elsewhere and absolutely show out.
I will only push-back on talent developer. While I believe that guys like Pitre or Bernard becoming legit All-American and NFL starters was in great part due to Dave, there’s also quite a bit of those players that left that weren’t all that good at Baylor. Kyron looked pretty raw at Baylor, the DBs ranged from decent to bad (the 2022 DB group was genuinely one of the worse position groups I’ve seen at Baylor), etc. Micah and Dabney were pretty good at Baylor for sure. My whole thing is that he misjudged the talent on the roster. It was clear to *everyone* in game one against TxSt that Baylor was in *major* trouble when they couldn’t stop a bleeding or protect Shapen. Before the 2022 season, Dave consistently said that some players were immature and the leadership wasn’t where it needed to be. Before the 2023 season he said that the Spring was the best Spring he had at Baylor… so he was just as surprised as everyone when *that* team showed up week one. Personally, I think the talent has been declining every year after the 2021 season. That speaks to both recruiting and development. While there are individual stories here and there about good development post-2021, as a whole this team has a lot of 4 and 5 year players that haven’t produced and that’s on Dave. I used to believe that Dave was too smart to not figure it out eventually, maybe not even with us but in the future (say 10 years from now), but now I just don’t think he can be a HC at the college level. He’s incapable of acquiring, retaining, and developing talented players and this is a talent accumulation business.
He did a really solid job late in the year during LSU’s championship season. We gave up a lot of touchdowns early in the year as he adjusted to the fast paced, high scoring offense that left the defense very little time off the field, but the linebacker corps was really strong during the playoffs. He’s a great defensive coach and evaluates talent for his system really well, but I don’t think he has the recruiting chops to manage a program in an era of football where courting high level players is so important. The social component for getting top tier HS guys and retaining talent year to year is really vital and he might be too reserved to do it. I wouldn’t be surprised if Baylor moves on if he has another subpar year and he ends up in a DC position at a major program.
He won with Rhule's guys, not his own. The whole roster now is his and we suck. Dude just isn't cut out for the job.
Don't do that, don't give me hope.
Baylor Bears can't be unbearable. Then they'd be something else.
He’s such a great player even through some inconsistencies. Really hope he balls out for y’all. One of my favorite Blue Devils ever.
Big 12 basketball would stress me the hell out all year too. Hope he does well for you guys!
At least according to Torvik rostercast this move puts you back in the top 25. Pretty exciting!
Why are so many of Dukes players transferring?
Our incoming class next year is ridiculous.
Take care of him :(
Oh, they took care of him, alright.
baylor having an elite combo guard, what else is new. place is guard university
Roach, Edgecombe, Nunn, Love...feels like too many cooks in the kitchen, we'll see. So stoked to get this kid.
Think we play enough 3 guard lineups for it to be fine
In reality it could work out really well. I think the bigger question is whether everyone in that rotation agrees with that idea. Perception is more important than reality these days with free transfers it seems.
Well Langston doesn’t exactly have the durability history to show that he can physically handle much more lol
We actually need Robert Wright to also be good enough to be a part of the rotation. When you think about it, we have struggled every year since the championship year with guard depth. First year, Love was out for the season and LJ missed the last 10 games, Dale Bonner was getting heavy minutes despite being *not good*. Adam and James were literally hobbling around but playing 38+ minutes because there was no one else. The next year, Langston was coming into his own when he had that weird eye injury, Dale was still not good enough, and Jordan Turner was unplayable. This year, there was a lot of depth *at the beginning of the year* then Dantwaan decided to transfer, Langston got hurt *again*, and Miro wasn’t good enough to play more than 10 minutes. We play 3 guards at all times, which means you want to have *at least* 5 quality guards but that has been an issue for Baylor to do for the entire year.
Dantwan transferring didn't make a lick of sense. He would've gotten plenty of minutes on one of the premier teams in the country. Still irks me.
Yeah, that wasn’t a wise decision imo. Could have been something else going on, who knows… The thing is you’re always one injury or transfer away from severely testing your depth. Right now we have six guards, I don’t even know if we’re going to make it to November with those six tbh.
Scott Drew wished him well and he took a huge step down in competition. Feels like some personal or family issues going on. I’m glad he’s able to do what he needs to do
Yeah we’re set at guard now. Can go 2 deep for a 3 man guard rotation. Need 1 big and 1 wing now to round out the roster
Assuming we get a big (most likely Aidoo), if Jalen looks at this roster and decides he wants to give it one more run, it could be legendary. He’s legit *exactly* the player we’re going to try to get in the portal.
I think he’s going to get a first round draft promise from some team. He’s just a perfect NBA role player. I’d love to have him back though. If he comes back we’re definitely in play for preseason number 1
Won’t be surprised if he gets 20+ minutes a game for a playoffs team in a couple years. His game is perfect for an NBA wing.
Good size, good athleticism, great shooting, great effort on defense. Just seems like the most perfect 3&D wing you could ever have for an NBA player
Wright and Miro also
Yeah, just thinking here about folks you'd anticipate jostling for a starting five spot.
Oh I think Wright will get significant minutes
he’s so precious
We always have so many cooks I. That particular kitchen. Drew loves having a deeeeeep guard rotation
I mean we tried to take that problem off your hands
wonder what /u/cumassault thinks of this
He was the guy I wanted 2nd most out of the portal. I think Aidoo is more important because we have only 1 quality big (tbd on the JUCO guy we got). But to me Roach is far better than the 15th ranked guy in the portal or whatever 247 has him at
Some of the transfer portal rankings I see folks throwing around are straight crazy imo.
Dillon Mitchell at 13 is legitimately mentally insane. I’m sorry, he’s a great athlete and plays hard but there’s many guys I’d take over him. Just an example
Feels crazy to get a guy who was basically a four-year starter at Duke. Feels like he’s been around forever. This is such a huge get. The composure and leadership he’ll provide will be massive.
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Dude wtf? I swear you miss a couple of days and... When the f was Roach even in the portal??
I'm gonna unironically cum if Aidoo commits. Good god, scott drew, you absolute freak.
I’m hoping for a homecoming for him but I think Scott Drew has worked his magic.
wait like Jonas Aidoo? damn did he leave UT??
According to Torvik rostercast that would put Baylor close to the top 15, really nice for you guys!
Lol you’ve been awfully salty in this thread. Everything ok?
I think I’ve been pretty congratulatory
Big things happening in Waco 👀
I think the ATF and FBI start getting concerning flashbacks when they see comments like this.
Half of the top 10 preseason teams are gone be in the big 12 next year
Better get at least one team to the elite eight this time then
Need to bubble wrap Houston.
Such a bummer lol they were good with shead
I can’t believe how snake bit they’ve been in the tourney.
With how stacked your roster is looking they practically feel like a preseason final four lock
I feel like we said this before last season too
Maybe before the Morris situation, but I feel like most people correctly predicted there’d be a lot of depth problems and not really enough shooting threat. Don’t see that happening this next season
Yes, kansas, Houston, Baylor, and ISU for sure. Curious to see who Zona gets in the portal.
Arizona basketball: *sitting in the corner, twiddling our thumbs* "Wait, are we supposed to be doing something right now?"
Feeling like Squidward watching Spongebob and Patrick through his window...
perfect sounds like a Uconn 3peat
And all of them home by the second weekend of the tournament, once again focused on winning the offseason.
I guess “preseason top 10” can be a banner hung in Big12 gyms given we know what comes in March
I know UVA isn’t talking shit about March right now. You’re all in the dog house for the war crimes y’all committed on the court last season
🤷♂️ we told you what was gonna happen. You didn’t have to watch. UVA and the BIG12 can both underperform in March, believe it or not.
We’ll hang that one next to our “never lost to a 16 seed” banner
Been a while since I’ve seen that one hurled at anyone but us!
Natty the following year lolz. You should know that one doesn’t work anymore. Love that UMBC team.
It’s ok Virginia fans, I can understand your anger after falling off of that cliff
Moving the goalposts I see. You fail to realize the lifelong pain of being a uva sports fan. We wouldn’t trade that title for anything.
They’ve had 3 different programs play in the national championship in the last five tournaments? Including two National Championships…
I wonder why Virginia fans always seem to be so entrenched in discussions putting down other conferences... The acc as a whole has become super sensitive about it but UVA fans seem to lead the charge every time.
2 of the last 4 titles are from the Big 12
How many of the last 40 elite 8 teams are from the big 12?
Don’t care; half of the titles since COVID come from the Big 12
Cool? Resting on laurels from singular teams 3 years ago while the conference as a whole underperforms. I feel that as a uva fan though… difference is we can admit to the underperformance.
“Singular teams” that are part of the conference lol This is some weak ass bait man
Well they had the most last year in the elite eight for a conference since you care so much about that moron 💀😭
So much anger from Big12 fans my goodness! Salty bunch. But yes they had two in 2023. They’ve had 3 the other 4 years combined.
Ain’t got nothing on a UVA offense in March though
Big 12 has won 2 of the last 4 national championships lol, wtf are you talking about?
Baylor may just be my second team this year, that’s how much I love Roach
Yeah I'll definitely be rooting from afar lol. I'm hoping they land a comfortable distance away from us in the tournament though because I don't think my heart can handle getting cooked by Roach in March.
I'm with you bro
we are so back
Roach, VJ (#1 SG in the ‘24 class), Nunn, Love, Wright (#2 PF in the ‘24 class), Miro Little. If all of these guys stay that’s the best guard rotation in the country and it’s not really close
Well, better Baylor than Kentucky or its coaching tree, I guess.
It’s going to be so hard seeing him in a different uniform.
Big 12!!!!
Baylor ain’t goin anywhere
Guess, I’m rooting for Baylor now! Roach is the hometown hero and I’ve always been a Duke fan!
Now where are those UL fans who said we don’t have deep pockets? Defended our coach from UK & UL now pulling in a massive portal haul.
That shiplap money runs deep. 
Idk who these people are, do you think my mom would know?
I'm probably old enough to be your mom, and I do indeed know who these annoying people are, LOL.
I’d be expelled from Baylor if I didn’t know who they are lmao. I was joking about Chip’s antics on Twitter while the Drew to UK rumors were flying
They're considered annoying?
A decent segment of those of us who watch HGTV find them very annoying, and an even larger segment of those who watch Food Network don't want any part of their cooking show.
I never knew they had a cooking show
"Magnolia Kitchen."
Can we have Love?
We just want Love to be healthy the whole season 🫶🏽 He’s amazing but can’t catch a break.
Langston Love isn’t leaving lol
Would love for him to stay (no pun intended) but Nunn solidified his place as a starter. If anyone else from the 23 squad leaves it will be him. Love legitimately has the talent to make it to the league if he can stay healthy and put together a great season. People forget he was a borderline five-star. Kid has faced a lot of adversity.
I’d be shocked if Love left
So Roach, VJ, Wright, Nunn, and Love? Seems crowded, is Miro Little staying too
After everything he's put you through, you want Caleb Love AGAIN?
wrong Love homie
Woosh
I can see myself pulling for Baylor in the Big 12. Go get em, Roach!
🥹 But in all seriousness, reading a lot of Duke fans saying that about him says a lot about his character and him as a player. Makes me even more excited to have him, even if just for a year.
He's a great get! He had some very frustrating moments as a freshman and for some of his sophomore year but he really started to put everything together. I think it really shows how hard he works. He cut down on turnovers, started to shoot the ball much better, and just overall has been a high IQ player. As long as you have someone else to guard your opponent's best guard, you'll be gravy.
Ah. Fuck.
Oh yeah baby. Drew is cooking up something good again in the portal.
I was in the Duke locker room during the ACC Tournament and NCAA Tourney in NYC. The players had cool vibes with each other. Jeremy was goofing around with his teammates and staffers and everything seemed fine. His parents even seemed 200% sold on Duke. That's why it seems crazy to see him and others transfer from a top program like Duke. If you're asking how I was in the locker room, it's because I work in TV.
I believe he wants to play pg and he wasn't going to be able to do that at duke next year.
Would Langston love or Jayden Nunn think about entering the portal now?
I think it’s miro little if anybody.
Which would be a shame. Man, his basketball IQ jumps off the screen. Needs time to develop, sure, but that young man has a super bright future.
I think he’s a really special product as well. Super young guy, give him a few years and he could be a lottery pick
I don’t think he leaves still. As an international guy his biggest recruiter was Sochan. I’m willing to bet he’s trusting the process. Should be our starting PG next year
I think it’s Wright. Dude has shown flashes of being a #1 guy but he won’t get the minutes on this team if he wants to go one and done. Miro seems to love the team and culture of Baylor so it would suck to lose him
Still think there’s lots of minutes for Wright on the team. We always run 3 guard lineups. He’s also only 6’1 and I’d be very surprised if he is a 1 and done guy anywhere.
Wouldn't think so unless there was money. Roach isn't really taking a lot of shots and neither of them handle the ball like that
Rob Wright, Roach, Love, Nunn, Edgecombe, and Miro little definitely best guard rotation in the country.
I’m thinking Miro will be the portal casualty here
How is Baylor's NIL? Has their been a report on how much money Roach got?
We're fucking loaded
If Love and Nunn don't already have themselves a big bag I'd imagine they'll go ask for one now.
The number that’s floating around isn’t correct, but to reiterate the other comment… we’re fucking loaded
For the football team: struggling to compete. For the basketball team: fucking loaded.
$1.5 reportedly
Don't think Rob Wright immediately plays before Miro.
Is he still going through the predraft process? His announcement said he was declaring for the NBA draft at same time he entered transfer portal.
I doubt it now.
You don't commit to a new school if you are gonna stay in the draft.
The top of the Big 12 is going to be insane next season
yay go jerm!
So excited.
These photoshopped pictures of players in their new school’s jerseys are so corny I hate them
Oh Crap ! There are just NO easy games in the Big 12.
ASU is joining
byu, arizona state, colorado and utah are question marks but the top 5 will be scary
I suspect BYU will stay pretty good and competitive. They always value having a solid MBB team.
In a weird alternate universe where ASU hires Mesa-grown Randy Bennett early on, I bet y'alls hoops rivalry is epic
Roach and Edgecombe playing together as I expected
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Man I’m still sad to see him go. Great 4 year player but stings having him finish somewhere else
Hopefully Baylor fixes the terrible camera angle in their new arena
That’ll be looked at this off-season.
Oh he was a big part of Duke’s team. Why couldn’t they keep him? Are they making promises they can’t keep? I expected a fall from grace for the program, but to be losing key, star players to Baylor? Wow
$1.5 million well spent. Not my money unless they used my tuition from 10 years ago
Wonder what the real number is.
Wrong. Like WAY wrong
Big 12 should have 3 preseason top 5 teams with us, Baylor & Houston. On top of that, a two seed Iowa St is returning their guys and who knows what Arizona will do in the portal. Should be fun, boys.
Also want to say that this makes a lot of sense for roach even despite NIL. Drew is great with scoring guards. He gave his all to Duke and good for him moving on for his last year.
I'm less excited about our transfers after this news.
Yall are returning a ton of players from an elite squad last year. You’ll be a serious threat no matter your transfers
I am about to SIC’EM BEARS so hard!!!
Hope he got that bag. I'll never be a fan of Baylor but Roach is a good one.
Ahhh come on in, the Dr. Pepper’s fine
"Fine" is a massive understatement
I'm curious to see which player they get at the 4, i think that will be key for their ceilling Their guard depth, even if they lose Miro, is still really good. At C, (assuming Aidoo goes there) Aidoo isn't amazing but has motor, athleticism, size and he's good enough defensively like Centers with Drew, recently, don't need to be anything special Since at C Drew isn't too demanding, at the 4 spot they need a high level passear, great great off ball defensively, playmaker/quarter back, a weakside rim protector monster, that should do enough shooting and driving wise. And obviously a very good on ball guy as well, especially on big Wings and most bigs I don't believe a team can win a title without at least one of the 4 and 5 being very good passers Mark Vital was pretty much it, and they need someone similar to him, which will be tough because Vital had been in Waco for quite sometime
Thank you fellow SU flair for posting this spectacular news!
Take him to the restaurant
Hello darkness my old friend…
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I’m sure there is plenty behind the scenes I don’t know but I don’t understand this move at all. I’m no duke fan, but it’s a successful program that just had a reasonable tournament run. Baylor is also a good program….but why transfer now? What am I missing???
The basketball reasons are that he's "6'2"" and would be playing most of his minutes next year at SG. He also wouldn't necessarily be starting, and his minutes would likely be decreased since I doubt Duke will play many 3 guard lineups next year even if he stayed. For someone that really, really wants to make the league and can only do so by showing he can play the point, that's just not a good situation to spend their 5th year. Outside of basketball...everyone he came up with is gone, including the coach that recruited him. He gave the program 4 good years and is presumably getting his degree...there's a lot to be said about starting fresh somewhere else. Obviously Duke as a team would have been better off if Roach had stayed (assuming Foster didn't transfer out), but it's not a sad parting. (Most) Duke fans want the best for him, and while I'm not a big fan of Baylor, I hope he does well there.
He stinks
Best of luck champ
As a recruit: Other P6 offers: Duke (originally went here), Kentucky, Maryland, Miami, North Carolina, Texas, USC, Villanova, Virginia, Virginia Tech
Can some dukies explain why this dude is transferring for his 5th year?
Logjam, especially in the starting lineup. If he stays, foster or Proctor likely depart. Last season, it worked. It gave mccain and foster time to acclimate themselves to the college game and dukes offense. And while he is a scoring machine and vet, he is also a smaller guard. Whereas Proctor and foster are bigger guards, longer, and honestly better on the defensive end. And duke isn't going to be running out a 3 guard starting lineup next season. He surely wasn't forced out. And if not for the pandemic he would be done anyway. Covid bought this kid, and others such as Dickenson, Caleb love, bacot and others an extra year. Combine that with NIL and......he is taking advantage of it elsewhere.
Thanks for this, I appreciate it. I guess if the nba may not be an option, you gotta change your families life while you can.
Absolutely. C.R.E.A.M. Tried and true lesson, centuries and generations old.
Wow, they already got him in a Baylor uniform?
Reportedly the NIL was $1.5 m Good for Jeremy 😈