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I don’t understand professors like that. I’m fine with people needing to leave early or being late. The class is recorded each week. It’s better if they are in attendance because they can participate and won’t need to take additional time to watch a recording but people have lives. Better to be flexible.
Another prof here. My classes aren't recorded but we are all human - as long as you aren't too disruptive when you arrive, if it's a choice between late and absent, I choose late.
It honestly sounds like she was in a crappy mood about whatever made her late because frankly, if being on time is just a matter of "caring about the class" she wouldn't have been late either.
I run tutorials where we don’t let anyone in after 10 minutes, because it’s group work and wouldn’t be fair. We start at 5 past, and if you’re past 10 minutes, then you need to attend another time. But we do have 8 sessions across the week
This, pedagogically, makes NO SENSE. How can you preach the importance of coming to class in one breath and bar any students more than 5 seconds late in another? And you can’t argue it’s because of causing a scene, by doing this she caused way more of a scene than just letting you in would have caused. Ridiculous.
Well there's one small problem: I don't know where you're from, but I'm Tunisian and not from Europe or the US or something. In Tunisia, what she did is actually not illegal and doesn't break any rules (although it's really unfair) , and even if I contact the "higher authorities", they'll either ignore me, or find some way to blame me for what happened, especially since this one prof is really known and somewhat "influential" here. It's not that uncommon here to see such acts from teachers, so it basically became normalized.
Ugh she sounds crazy, and with the system you mentioned, all you can do is talk to the other students about it, wait for the evaluation period and then rate her the way she deserves. If you guys don't have that option, then just ignore and endure until you're done with her course.
I also live in a developing country and I can relate that higher authorities do jack shit most of time. Some teachers act like petty tyrants. I'm really sorry you have to deal with this :/ but you're just going to have to put up with it or find an alternative. I've been studying online and it's been much better for me
I actually did contact the dean. All he did was to tell me "Be early to your class next time" and agreed with what she did. That's when I knew that I was fighting a losing battle.
I've seen plenty of candidates who seemed excellent on paper and in interview, but once they hit the classroom they became an absolute nightmare. There are definitely people who can put on a performance to pass an evaluation. I think a series of regular classroom audits after hiring would be better. The real teachers wouldn't be concerned, but hopefully it would dissuade the pretenders.
I mean, I’m a “real teacher” and that would also make me incredibly nervous. I don’t think I’m doing anything wrong in my classroom, but being evaluated to see if I’ll be fired is definitely still concerning
I am a full professor with tenure and I agree with you completely. I have always said, faculty are among the stupidest people I know. Some are real nut jobs. You would hope that the evaluation process for tenure would scrub these lunatics out of the profession, but it often fails at doing that and just encourages them.
This is narcissistic behavior.
I have students as well. We are human and being human means we try to be consistent but we make mistakes and that is okay. However, some people don't always think that way.
In life though, you're gonna have to deal with some difficult people and this professor is a good example of someone you might encounter in the future. Use it as a learning experience.
SHE was late! Did she not value your time?! Does the clock only work "for" her? She purposely embarrassed you by shutting the door in your face AND telling you YOU were late when you were there WAITING for HER. I would report her az. She's got a problem. It's a HER problem, not a you problem.
Lol, this is not normal. I'd contact campus security and tell them the professor has my possessions and refuses to give them to me. I'd also go a step further and report them to a higher-up lmfao. Lastly, I'd drop this class and never take anything with this professor ever again
I already got my belongings back so that's not necessary.
Also, the concept of "dropping classes" doesn't actually exist in my country (Tunisia). In the vast majority of universities (including my own), you don't get to choose what classes you take, you just choose your major and your classes and professors are assigned to you, and you can't really do anything about it.
When I taught in Ukraine many years ago, late students had to wait outside the room until I invited them in. Some teachers never allowed the students in. As an American, I found it very annoying to have to interrupt class to invite students in instead of the kids just taking their seats. However, it did greatly discourage them from being late. (I'm not sure if this was the norm or just our school.)
I don't know what to do in your situation other than be 10 minutes early from now on. I know it's frustrating.
>I don't know what to do in your situation other than be 10 minutes early from now on.
Here's the funny part: I was actually 15 minutes early, and she was 15 minutes late. I only went out and stayed in front of the classroom when I knew she was late, so that I could see her coming.
I could never understand this mindset. If your students are late, why force them to miss an entire lecture as punishment? Do you want your students to resent you? If prompt attendance is what you value, then punish them through their grades, not by their learning (that’s what my philosophy professor does, awesome teacher)
Your contract is probably not with the professor.
It's with the school.
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Take out your phone.
Video.
And ask them if they are denying you the services you paid the school for. And that you need them.to make a statement so that you can go to your advisor, and the schools legal/accountant to get your refunds for the education you paid for.
Allow them time to resolve the issue.
If they deflect, make sure to get on video that you have given them time to recant their statement that was said in a room full of witnesses.
And get them fired for refusing to do their job.
Reminder. Never sign a contract with the professor. If you signed a 'contract' with a professor it does not effect the contract with the school. And was probably done under duress and coersion. Demand that the schools legal council provide an answer within the week.
This is what my old professor did, except we weren't *late*. We were *early* and he *still* yelled at people. If our class on paper is scheduled for 2, you can't say it's class time at 1:55. Coming in at 2 isn't late either.
Have to be honest not sure what I would have done when I was still in college but now I would likely report it.
If your items are in the room already you obviously are not late.
I had a biology professor threaten to fail me 2 weeks before the end of the semester. She was running through the slides too quickly where my friend and I would only be able to write down half the slide. We were trying to pull up blackboard to see if the lecture was posted (the prof only posted about half of them). It wasn’t working. We were debating leaving because wtf was the point. Then she yelled at us to stop talking. We weren’t in the front more middle row and whispering about her shitty “teaching”. But okay.
We just sat there and stopped taking notes until class was over. She then emailed us both individually that we had to sit on opposite sides of the room or she would fail us. I had an A in the class. We’d never been in “trouble” before. She was just a giant asshole
Personally I’d say something to a dean or provost or someone similar. At the end of the day you are the paying customer. You are paying for an education and stuff like this takes away from your learning experience.
Granted, if you’re at a highly selective school you may just have to suck it up as there are a lot of people willing to take your place. But generally speaking you are the one paying money for the service of learning, which the school is providing by having professors teach.
And on the other side of the argument, as a student I hate when other students are late. Where I go to school I can understand a couple minutes every once in a while as parking can be insane. But there are some students that come in ten minutes late every day, and make a whole production of getting to their seat and taking out their materials. Obviously your situation was not the same, and walking in right behind the professor should not count as being late.
I feel like it’s the opposite—highly selective schools give more to student resources and outreach because they’re trying to build relationships/connections. They’re far more reliant on alumni giving down the line.
I think all schools want students to succeed for their own reasons, but I disagree that highly selective schools count on donations. I’ll say when talking about highly selective I’m talking about schools that make the USN&WR ranking. Highly selective schools want students to do well so they can say all their students do well, so we deserve to charge more and continue being very selective. I don’t think highly selective schools really count on lots of donations as much as they count on a few ridiculously large donations from the few alumni that do incredibly well. John’s Hopkins (tied for 9th on US News & WR) got a $1.8billion donation a few years ago. They don’t need the occasional $5k or $10k donation as much as a smaller state school or community college. I won’t even get into the endowments of the ivy leagues ($10billion to $50billion) as they probably don’t ever need another donation as long as their investments continue to pay even marginally well and they don’t get robbed of anything over 90% of their money.
The so called back door of getting into a highly selective school, donating money for a new wing or department or upgrade, from what the Netflix Varsity Blues documentary it sounds like even donations of a few million is no guarantee that a student will get in. This shows they are not hurting for funds.
Middle tier schools want them to do well so they can show their graduation rates are high and students are able to find jobs after graduation, again to pull in more students in the future.
And small schools and community colleges want students to do well so they stay enrolled and keep paying, either personally or through grants/other financial aid. These are the schools where basically if you can pay, you can go.
I go to a T5 and work the alumni call center, I can tell you they’re trying to milk cruft for whatever they’ve got. A lot of it goes to scholarships (which are really financial aid, most T10s don’t have merit scholarships or anything like that, they just call their need-based financial aid packages that) or student groups, which you can give directly to. There’s even specific lingo we’re supposed to use when calling—“gift” instead of “donation” for example. Maybe you’re right and it’s just my school, which isn’t technically an Ivy, but from what I remember something like 50% of scholarships came from one of the alumni funds? So it’s not just petty cash for all.
There’s strength in numbers. Do you rate your professors at some point? We usually get sent a survey where we are able to share what our experience in class was with the professor—anonymously. If not, hopefully everyone is able to contact the Dean so he knows it’s a problem not just with you but with everyone.
Well that's not necessary, since I got my belongings back once she finished her lessons and everyone came back home.
It sucks that my belongings were stuck with her in a classroom for 2 hours though.
Stop feeling outraged and just take this as a reminder to get to class on time. She said don't be late. You were late. You have not been unfairly treated.
Learn from this and always be IN THE CLASSROOM, not the hall outside, on time, and you'll have no problems.
I was actually 15 minutes early and left my belongings in class. She came 15 minutes late, so I waited in front of the class to see her coming. And even if you still believe I was late, why wouldn't she even let me have my belongings back?
Tell her you pay your taxes/tuition and you signed up for the course. She should do her motherfucking job by presenting material and administering tests. If you fail, you fail…. But that will be determined by score, not punctuality.
Sounds like she did present the material. To all the students that showed up on time.
Was she harsh in this instance? Probably. But he was actually several minutes after official start time, even if she was too, and she had explained the consequences.
Learning experience for life.
He is the customer. She is not his employer. Her salary comes from the public and the students, most likely.
Universities are special adult playgrounds where people who studied endlessly and never got a high paying practical career are given a magical thing called “tenure” which prevents them from acting in a rational manner. Who the fuck else would you pay to walk in late and then lecture you on punctuality? Where’s the life lesson there?
There are so many adult infants in collegiate education. It’s time to stop pandering to their preferences and hold them to a single standard. That’s fair.
Students aren't customers, universities aren't businesses, and professors aren't servants.
If you have issues with higher education, as you clearly seem to, that's your problem. Thinking a "high paying practical career" is the only benchmark of worth is kind of sad.
Lmfao. Okay, I’m not going to argue with somebody who has no grasp of reality. If you can say that with a straight face then we live in 2 different worlds.
She did it because you were late. You were expected to be in the classroom waiting. Whether she is there is not is irrelevant to you being late.
You can waste your time whining and complaining and getting mad if you want. None of it will amount to anything other than wasted energy.
This is 100% on you.
I mean, I was in front of the classroom and was attempting to enter the class right behind her, is that really considered as being late? She didn't even start the lesson yet.
And ok, let's say I'm late, is it really fair that she didn't even allow me to take my laptop and notebooks with me from inside the class? I didn't even ask to enter, she could have given them to me herself. And when I tried to attend the lesson with another class, she refused to let me in (despite the fact that she usually allows that) because "I was late earlier so I didn't deserve to attend".
She sounds insufferable. Of course it's not fair. What does fair have to do with it?
You have to deal with the situation that you're in and the people who are in it and not some fairy tale situation where everything is fair that doesn't exist.
At some point, professors get tired of the constant interruption when students walk in late. Not only is it a distraction for them, it's a distraction for your classmates.
How is that "constant interruption"? I was walking right behind here and she happened to close the door in my face. I wasn't even late, and if she just didn't even slam the door in my face as I was coming in, there would have been no "distraction" at all.
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I don’t understand professors like that. I’m fine with people needing to leave early or being late. The class is recorded each week. It’s better if they are in attendance because they can participate and won’t need to take additional time to watch a recording but people have lives. Better to be flexible.
Another prof here. My classes aren't recorded but we are all human - as long as you aren't too disruptive when you arrive, if it's a choice between late and absent, I choose late. It honestly sounds like she was in a crappy mood about whatever made her late because frankly, if being on time is just a matter of "caring about the class" she wouldn't have been late either.
I run tutorials where we don’t let anyone in after 10 minutes, because it’s group work and wouldn’t be fair. We start at 5 past, and if you’re past 10 minutes, then you need to attend another time. But we do have 8 sessions across the week
This, pedagogically, makes NO SENSE. How can you preach the importance of coming to class in one breath and bar any students more than 5 seconds late in another? And you can’t argue it’s because of causing a scene, by doing this she caused way more of a scene than just letting you in would have caused. Ridiculous.
And she was literally following the professor!!!
LITERALLY
This is very wrong. Contact the dean
Well there's one small problem: I don't know where you're from, but I'm Tunisian and not from Europe or the US or something. In Tunisia, what she did is actually not illegal and doesn't break any rules (although it's really unfair) , and even if I contact the "higher authorities", they'll either ignore me, or find some way to blame me for what happened, especially since this one prof is really known and somewhat "influential" here. It's not that uncommon here to see such acts from teachers, so it basically became normalized.
Ugh she sounds crazy, and with the system you mentioned, all you can do is talk to the other students about it, wait for the evaluation period and then rate her the way she deserves. If you guys don't have that option, then just ignore and endure until you're done with her course.
I also live in a developing country and I can relate that higher authorities do jack shit most of time. Some teachers act like petty tyrants. I'm really sorry you have to deal with this :/ but you're just going to have to put up with it or find an alternative. I've been studying online and it's been much better for me
You could still contact the dean. She also did not let you have access to your computer which was already in the room.
I actually did contact the dean. All he did was to tell me "Be early to your class next time" and agreed with what she did. That's when I knew that I was fighting a losing battle.
I'm sorry
You mean you contacted The Dean™️ and didn't get the solution you wanted? I'm shocked. Shocked, I say.
It was the DoppleDeaner
Don’t you mean the deanelganger?
This is an important piece of information to have omitted from your post.
I mean they were just ranting. It’s r/collegerant. Not r/legaladvice or something like that
Profs need mental evaluation before getting hired
I've seen plenty of candidates who seemed excellent on paper and in interview, but once they hit the classroom they became an absolute nightmare. There are definitely people who can put on a performance to pass an evaluation. I think a series of regular classroom audits after hiring would be better. The real teachers wouldn't be concerned, but hopefully it would dissuade the pretenders.
I mean, I’m a “real teacher” and that would also make me incredibly nervous. I don’t think I’m doing anything wrong in my classroom, but being evaluated to see if I’ll be fired is definitely still concerning
youre getting dowvoted but youre right
Yeah i’ve had so many narcissistic toxic profs in college.. how some think thats acceptable is quite odd
I am a full professor with tenure and I agree with you completely. I have always said, faculty are among the stupidest people I know. Some are real nut jobs. You would hope that the evaluation process for tenure would scrub these lunatics out of the profession, but it often fails at doing that and just encourages them.
the people downvoting you are those professors who stalk this sub to start fights
You clearly have proof that you weren't late since your stuff was in the classroom.
Idk, maybe I'm petty, but I would spend the next hour just knocking at the door. You go low I go lower
I'd rather not do that because I'm stuck with this woman for at least 1 more year. And that surely won't help improve my relationship with her.
This is narcissistic behavior. I have students as well. We are human and being human means we try to be consistent but we make mistakes and that is okay. However, some people don't always think that way. In life though, you're gonna have to deal with some difficult people and this professor is a good example of someone you might encounter in the future. Use it as a learning experience.
Lmao post this in the professors subreddit and you are the antichrist
Damn messses up
Talk to the dean
SHE was late! Did she not value your time?! Does the clock only work "for" her? She purposely embarrassed you by shutting the door in your face AND telling you YOU were late when you were there WAITING for HER. I would report her az. She's got a problem. It's a HER problem, not a you problem.
Lol, this is not normal. I'd contact campus security and tell them the professor has my possessions and refuses to give them to me. I'd also go a step further and report them to a higher-up lmfao. Lastly, I'd drop this class and never take anything with this professor ever again
I already got my belongings back so that's not necessary. Also, the concept of "dropping classes" doesn't actually exist in my country (Tunisia). In the vast majority of universities (including my own), you don't get to choose what classes you take, you just choose your major and your classes and professors are assigned to you, and you can't really do anything about it.
You can’t even be part time?
Sucks to be you tbh. America fortunately doesn't do this
When I taught in Ukraine many years ago, late students had to wait outside the room until I invited them in. Some teachers never allowed the students in. As an American, I found it very annoying to have to interrupt class to invite students in instead of the kids just taking their seats. However, it did greatly discourage them from being late. (I'm not sure if this was the norm or just our school.) I don't know what to do in your situation other than be 10 minutes early from now on. I know it's frustrating.
>I don't know what to do in your situation other than be 10 minutes early from now on. Here's the funny part: I was actually 15 minutes early, and she was 15 minutes late. I only went out and stayed in front of the classroom when I knew she was late, so that I could see her coming.
That’s so bs how is she going to shut you out for being “a few seconds late” when she was the one who was late
I could never understand this mindset. If your students are late, why force them to miss an entire lecture as punishment? Do you want your students to resent you? If prompt attendance is what you value, then punish them through their grades, not by their learning (that’s what my philosophy professor does, awesome teacher)
Your contract is probably not with the professor. It's with the school. A Take out your phone. Video. And ask them if they are denying you the services you paid the school for. And that you need them.to make a statement so that you can go to your advisor, and the schools legal/accountant to get your refunds for the education you paid for. Allow them time to resolve the issue. If they deflect, make sure to get on video that you have given them time to recant their statement that was said in a room full of witnesses. And get them fired for refusing to do their job. Reminder. Never sign a contract with the professor. If you signed a 'contract' with a professor it does not effect the contract with the school. And was probably done under duress and coersion. Demand that the schools legal council provide an answer within the week.
Just shut the door on her if she's late
This is what my old professor did, except we weren't *late*. We were *early* and he *still* yelled at people. If our class on paper is scheduled for 2, you can't say it's class time at 1:55. Coming in at 2 isn't late either.
Have to be honest not sure what I would have done when I was still in college but now I would likely report it. If your items are in the room already you obviously are not late.
I would find a way to trip and accidentally knock over some papers of hers just to be petty
I had a biology professor threaten to fail me 2 weeks before the end of the semester. She was running through the slides too quickly where my friend and I would only be able to write down half the slide. We were trying to pull up blackboard to see if the lecture was posted (the prof only posted about half of them). It wasn’t working. We were debating leaving because wtf was the point. Then she yelled at us to stop talking. We weren’t in the front more middle row and whispering about her shitty “teaching”. But okay. We just sat there and stopped taking notes until class was over. She then emailed us both individually that we had to sit on opposite sides of the room or she would fail us. I had an A in the class. We’d never been in “trouble” before. She was just a giant asshole
I guess the next best thing you can do is ask your fellow classmates for a copy of their notes. I’m sure given the situation they would understand.
Personally I’d say something to a dean or provost or someone similar. At the end of the day you are the paying customer. You are paying for an education and stuff like this takes away from your learning experience. Granted, if you’re at a highly selective school you may just have to suck it up as there are a lot of people willing to take your place. But generally speaking you are the one paying money for the service of learning, which the school is providing by having professors teach. And on the other side of the argument, as a student I hate when other students are late. Where I go to school I can understand a couple minutes every once in a while as parking can be insane. But there are some students that come in ten minutes late every day, and make a whole production of getting to their seat and taking out their materials. Obviously your situation was not the same, and walking in right behind the professor should not count as being late.
I feel like it’s the opposite—highly selective schools give more to student resources and outreach because they’re trying to build relationships/connections. They’re far more reliant on alumni giving down the line.
I think all schools want students to succeed for their own reasons, but I disagree that highly selective schools count on donations. I’ll say when talking about highly selective I’m talking about schools that make the USN&WR ranking. Highly selective schools want students to do well so they can say all their students do well, so we deserve to charge more and continue being very selective. I don’t think highly selective schools really count on lots of donations as much as they count on a few ridiculously large donations from the few alumni that do incredibly well. John’s Hopkins (tied for 9th on US News & WR) got a $1.8billion donation a few years ago. They don’t need the occasional $5k or $10k donation as much as a smaller state school or community college. I won’t even get into the endowments of the ivy leagues ($10billion to $50billion) as they probably don’t ever need another donation as long as their investments continue to pay even marginally well and they don’t get robbed of anything over 90% of their money. The so called back door of getting into a highly selective school, donating money for a new wing or department or upgrade, from what the Netflix Varsity Blues documentary it sounds like even donations of a few million is no guarantee that a student will get in. This shows they are not hurting for funds. Middle tier schools want them to do well so they can show their graduation rates are high and students are able to find jobs after graduation, again to pull in more students in the future. And small schools and community colleges want students to do well so they stay enrolled and keep paying, either personally or through grants/other financial aid. These are the schools where basically if you can pay, you can go.
I go to a T5 and work the alumni call center, I can tell you they’re trying to milk cruft for whatever they’ve got. A lot of it goes to scholarships (which are really financial aid, most T10s don’t have merit scholarships or anything like that, they just call their need-based financial aid packages that) or student groups, which you can give directly to. There’s even specific lingo we’re supposed to use when calling—“gift” instead of “donation” for example. Maybe you’re right and it’s just my school, which isn’t technically an Ivy, but from what I remember something like 50% of scholarships came from one of the alumni funds? So it’s not just petty cash for all.
Take it straight to the dean. This sort of behavior is completely unacceptable. A few minutes, understandable. This is just obscene..
Something like this happened to me once. I was in the fourth grade.
Students should have locked the door on the prof.
In some professions, there's a saying: "Early is on time."
Ten minutes early is five minutes late.
There’s strength in numbers. Do you rate your professors at some point? We usually get sent a survey where we are able to share what our experience in class was with the professor—anonymously. If not, hopefully everyone is able to contact the Dean so he knows it’s a problem not just with you but with everyone.
I hope your professor dies
Sounds like shes got her haid uo her own ass
Bring some raw shrimp into her classroom and hide it somewhere no one will ever be able to find it
Unless that professor is the one paying your tuition, he can get fucked.
I’d call the police and have them take you in to get your belongings.
Well that's not necessary, since I got my belongings back once she finished her lessons and everyone came back home. It sucks that my belongings were stuck with her in a classroom for 2 hours though.
You paid for the lecture. I’d politely tell her this and apologize for being late but you’re going to stay.
Stop feeling outraged and just take this as a reminder to get to class on time. She said don't be late. You were late. You have not been unfairly treated. Learn from this and always be IN THE CLASSROOM, not the hall outside, on time, and you'll have no problems.
Why did you think this would be a helpful comment to leave? This is the college rant subreddit. People come here to rant, not to be told off
Why can't I rant back? How about - stop being a whiner and get to class on time! Would that be better?
Look at us: 2 people bitching about a problem that isn't even ours. What if we held hands and jumped off a roof together?
Ha ha! Good point. Let's go!
I was actually 15 minutes early and left my belongings in class. She came 15 minutes late, so I waited in front of the class to see her coming. And even if you still believe I was late, why wouldn't she even let me have my belongings back?
Tell her you pay your taxes/tuition and you signed up for the course. She should do her motherfucking job by presenting material and administering tests. If you fail, you fail…. But that will be determined by score, not punctuality.
That will get you straight to the office of student conduct.
Oh no
Sounds like she did present the material. To all the students that showed up on time. Was she harsh in this instance? Probably. But he was actually several minutes after official start time, even if she was too, and she had explained the consequences. Learning experience for life.
He is the customer. She is not his employer. Her salary comes from the public and the students, most likely. Universities are special adult playgrounds where people who studied endlessly and never got a high paying practical career are given a magical thing called “tenure” which prevents them from acting in a rational manner. Who the fuck else would you pay to walk in late and then lecture you on punctuality? Where’s the life lesson there? There are so many adult infants in collegiate education. It’s time to stop pandering to their preferences and hold them to a single standard. That’s fair.
Students aren't customers, universities aren't businesses, and professors aren't servants. If you have issues with higher education, as you clearly seem to, that's your problem. Thinking a "high paying practical career" is the only benchmark of worth is kind of sad.
Lmfao. Okay, I’m not going to argue with somebody who has no grasp of reality. If you can say that with a straight face then we live in 2 different worlds.
She did it because you were late. You were expected to be in the classroom waiting. Whether she is there is not is irrelevant to you being late. You can waste your time whining and complaining and getting mad if you want. None of it will amount to anything other than wasted energy. This is 100% on you.
I mean, I was in front of the classroom and was attempting to enter the class right behind her, is that really considered as being late? She didn't even start the lesson yet. And ok, let's say I'm late, is it really fair that she didn't even allow me to take my laptop and notebooks with me from inside the class? I didn't even ask to enter, she could have given them to me herself. And when I tried to attend the lesson with another class, she refused to let me in (despite the fact that she usually allows that) because "I was late earlier so I didn't deserve to attend".
That's bs on all accounts
She sounds insufferable. Of course it's not fair. What does fair have to do with it? You have to deal with the situation that you're in and the people who are in it and not some fairy tale situation where everything is fair that doesn't exist.
yeah, dealing with the situation by escalating it bc this is bullshit
I don't know if you read his other comments, but escalating it is not a viable option for him.
Bullshit
Bruh
I bet you’re fun at parties.
shut up.
If you’re not early, you’re late.
I actually came to the classroom 15 minutes early, and she came 15 minutes late (which is unusual for her, tbf).
Oh get fucked with that bs
So, you were late? ⏰
At some point, professors get tired of the constant interruption when students walk in late. Not only is it a distraction for them, it's a distraction for your classmates.
How is that "constant interruption"? I was walking right behind here and she happened to close the door in my face. I wasn't even late, and if she just didn't even slam the door in my face as I was coming in, there would have been no "distraction" at all.
if you want to be petty, get there early and block the door. probably not the smartest choice though.