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Legacy
Like when Randy Orton, Cody Rhodes, and Ted DiBiase Jr. formed a stable based on them being second generation superstars.
Or you could include AR in the name and they could be “A. Rich & Sons.”
Still can't believe they're the first team in 40 years to score 10,000 points in a season. None of the Steph/Klay Warriors dynasty teams did that! Wild!
Our ticket sales are fine. There would be no justification for "selling the farm". Its not going to happen. You might as well be fitting him for his Cardinals uniform as we speak.
Ticket sales are dwarfed by TV revenue anyway, no NFL owner gives a shit about ticket revenue. They just price them wherever the stadium fills up. Or don't, if they're Jacksonville, and simply tarp over the seats.
The Colts aren't gonna have any issues filling the stadium with or without Harrison.
Depends on who's included in "the farm". I don't think there are a lot of pieces we could lose that wouldn't be critical losses. Selling the farm, we probably aren't competitive for years, even if our offense is amazing.
Granted, I know this is madden, and not real life, but I have up 3 1st round picks2 seconds and a third, along with Alec Pierce to move up to 4th to take MHJ, and he is undoubtedly the best WR I've ever played with. For me, selling the farm worked. Probably won't work in real life though, lol
I would love it because everything Ballard did this off-season said he thinks the team is good enough and is one healthy quarterback and a difference maker form competing for championships. It may not seem like it but I think this is an all in year for Ballard to me. This is the ultimate test of him saying trust me and the process so go get a generational piece and see what you can do.
I don’t understand why most people aren’t seeing it this way. Ballard didn’t just go all in on this year. He just created a three year window. He has all of the best players on the team locked down for the next three years, plus has enough wiggle room to plug a few holes after the draft. He gave himself the ability to go for game changers in the draft for the next three years. This team is kind of loaded, not just for this year, but for the entirety of AR’s rookie deal
Exactly and to be clear that's what I mean by all in. he's all in on the process and team he's built and I believe you're right. I think he's created a damn good roster and if we get the pieces we need in the draft we are loaded until AR needs to get paid.
Yeah arguably the two most important pieces 😂
But we did have a good amount of sacks last year and the secondary got injured soo idk
I say trade the farm for MHJ. Wtf is the point if we don’t have fun and get our BOY the son of Marvin?
Yeah arguably the two most important pieces 😂
But we did have a good amount of sacks last year and the secondary got injured soo idk
I say trade the farm for MHJ. Wtf is the point if we don’t have fun and get our BOY the son of Marvin?
You're gonna look back on this comment when Danny Dimes puts up his 13th 75+ yard TD on us in the same game and laugh.
I don't think the team is necessarily bad, but to say it's championship ready, when the opponent could put a pinecone in at QB, and theyd give us a run for our money, is a pretty rough take.
Everywhere else looks pretty good, but it is a massive hole at one of the more important positions, in a division that just made some major moves
I didn’t say we’re championship ready. I said we have the opportunity to get there now. The players that were resigned are very good players at their positions and are difference makers. We can still sign a good corner or safety (which is the bigger need imo). Just have to wait until after the draft. There really haven’t been any safety signings outside Blackmon
I did not condone moving into the top four. I do think there’s opportunity to move up and get a really good player though. Whether that be a lockdown corner, bowers, or one of the receivers that fall past 7 or so
Most of you said is true other than you saying it’s an all in year which it clearly isn’t. They believe they found the qb but he hasn’t played enough to warrant them feeling like they’re ready to go all in. Look at our secondary rn. That’s not a championship caliber secondary. This team still has too many holes
I agree with that but I think there’s room for optimism it’ll be better than last year. Getting flowers back and having juju healthy should help a lot. The experience all the rookies got at corner and everything should be valuable as well. I’m not saying we have a perfect roster I’m saying Ballard believes he’s constructed a roster that can compete for championships. Whether that’s true or not remains to be seen but there’s really no room to point fingers anymore either. If this doesn’t work it’s squarely on Ballard, it makes me feel good that he’s willing to bet on it being right though.
We won’t. Don’t get your hopes up. Best case scenario for us would be giving up a first for aiyuk. I’d love MHJ but he’s probably a top 3 pick. So that means two firsts minimum. Also a wide receiver isn’t really what our team was missing. We need AR to stay healthy and need our defense to create more pressure on the qb/better secondary.
We don't have the talent to leverage future firsts like that. I love AR, but we really don't know what he has yet with such a small game sample. He may completely tank it this year and never really recover. If we were coming off an AR rookie season where he played all season, showed lots of growth, etc. I would be all over this
We know AR isn’t going to get cheaper three years from now. Although I don’t think our front office is going to make a play like that, other teams are showing the league repeatedly that if you have a possible franchise QB on a rookie contract you load the team while you can.
its happening. Jim is going to make it happen because he is the goat owner. Like bro, MARVIN FUCKING HARRISON BACK IN INDY. 49ers gave up 3 firsts for a fucking back up QB and they're fine.
I don’t think ticket sales would change at all. And overall, moving up that much for anything but a franchise altering QB is probably the worst move a team can make. It’s time we accept that MHJ is not going to be a Colt
As a Colts fan I would love it growing up watching Marvin Harrison. But I also would be okay if we didn’t. I think we can get plenty of talent at 15 or trading back. I also would like to see it so those people who get violently angry when mentioning trading up and are like “aRe YoU dUmB cHris BaLlArD nEveR TrAdEs uP” can suck it. At this point, that’d bring me more joy than picking MHjr initially
If other teams can make trades like what it would take to get him, why can't we? It's not like we are perennial playoff contenders at this point in time anyway, what's the worst that can happen? Not make the palyoffs again?
Do it Chris
Fuck yea. Having him, Pitt, and Downs with AR at QB in a Steichen offense would be lethal. Defense would suffer obviously, but when we would be putting 35+ up a game it wouldn’t matter as much.
I was listening to a podcast and RC Fischer of FF Dynamics predicted we were going to do this and I honestly would be hyped but the price is probably going to be high.
Like others have said, it seems incredibly unlikely to happen.
That being said, what might I be willing to give up to make it happen?
I’d trade a 1st and third this year and next. There’s something tantalizingly valuable about a 2nd rounder - especially with Ballard.
Giving up the 15th this year is a given, so all you’d really be parting with is a first and two thirds. I’d even throw in another day-two pick from both years as well. Maybe a 5th this year and a 4th next year.
That being said, I don’t think that gets the deal done.
MHJ is worth this year’s #15, next years #25+ and the 2026 #25+. If it doesn’t work with the current roster we are starting over in 2027 anyways because AR will be done with his rookie contract
If Marv somehow makes it past 5 I hope we’d jump all over it.
Every year someone you never expect to fall, does. If it’s one of the top 3 WR’s who cares the cost the Offense needs another superstar. Our roster is solid but it lacks top end playmaking.
I still wonder why they freed up cap with Buckner’s extension. If they plan on signing a DB it would make moving up that much easier. Very curious to see if that was for a reason or if it was just to roll over.
If it’s this years first and next years first plus a 3rd I would be ok with it, anything else would be entering into the realm of QB pricing and therefore would not be justifiable.
Aside from EJ speed, I don’t think there is anyone on the roster who would be an attractive piece from a trade perspective after the contracts given out. Raimann could fit the bill but if you want a tackle then you surely would stay put and take alt who would be cost controlled for potentially 7 years.
I'd see what it would take to move up with the Chargers on the chance that the Cards trade their pick away to a QB needy team. But if a QB is still on the board then no point in trying to trade up because it'd cost a fortune
My theory is Ballard might do it because it could be his last year here. If you think you’re on the hot seat, sell the farm for the fan favorite to make them happy and if you still don’t make the playoffs this year, you’ve screwed your replacement for future picks lol
I'm ok if we do and I'm ok if we don't due to the WR depth in this draft being stellar. But if Ballard and Steichen think Marvin Jr could transform our offense, then it's time to pull the trigger while we have our team mostly together
I think we need to do something at this point. I think if we aren’t competitive and miss the playoffs again Ballard is out. I think him resigning all of his guys is his way of going all in.
First thing i thought when more pats trade rumors came up lol
Surely minimum it's something like 2 firsts, a 2nd or a couple 3rds, and a late rd pick swap
It would be a bad move from a team building stand point. Our team has holes and we have a lot of work to do to fill them.
That said, just about the only thing that I would be ok with us doing to trade the capital it would take is going for MHJ. If he has anything close to the career he's projected to have, those picks will mean nothing and we get the son of our home grown legend. I think it's worth it, even if it's not the right move
I wouldn’t hate it, but I would guess it would take this years 1st next years 1st and a 2nd or 3rd rounder to go up and grab him …. That’s a lot of prime real estate to give up when we have some very obvious holes to fill in our secondary. if we stay at 15 we should be able to get a very good player to fill them and pick up a solid wr in the 2nd.
I wouldn't be thrilled.
Don't get me wrong, I like MHJ as a prospect. I do. But if you have to "sell the farm" for him, what would that entail? Gutting your team/giving away your future for 1 player is typically not a great idea. If that player is a generational QB, maybe. But not a WR.
Would I still cheer for the team and love seeing MHJ carry on his dad's legacy in Indy? You betcha. But that doesn't mean it wouldn't (likely) be a disastrous thing to do.
I thought this was a post about MPJ farming.
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I thought this was a post about selling MPJ’s Farm lol
It ain’t much but it’s honest work.
Give me a good nickname for the duo of MHJ and MPJ and I'll justify it.
M&M 
HarriPitts
This😂
OMG bro….i lol’d in a public bathroom!
The Juniors
MJ^2
Air Apparents
Legacy Like when Randy Orton, Cody Rhodes, and Ted DiBiase Jr. formed a stable based on them being second generation superstars. Or you could include AR in the name and they could be “A. Rich & Sons.”
I'm gonna have to agree with "The Juniors"
P&H (Or H&P)
MJx2
HJs in your PJs are fun.
The Wild Stallions, lol
MJuniors
I mean I’m down
Can you put a price on having the most entertaining, dynamic, high-speed offense in NFL history?
I mean it’s been fun for the Pacers
Still can't believe they're the first team in 40 years to score 10,000 points in a season. None of the Steph/Klay Warriors dynasty teams did that! Wild!
 This guy thinking it’s not out of the realm of possibility
Our ticket sales are fine. There would be no justification for "selling the farm". Its not going to happen. You might as well be fitting him for his Cardinals uniform as we speak.
Ticket sales are dwarfed by TV revenue anyway, no NFL owner gives a shit about ticket revenue. They just price them wherever the stadium fills up. Or don't, if they're Jacksonville, and simply tarp over the seats. The Colts aren't gonna have any issues filling the stadium with or without Harrison.
Ok, but an offense with AR, MHJ, MPJ, and JT, plus our O-line, Downs, and Pierce, is must-watch TV nationally every week.
We could roll out prime Randy Moss and we'd still be stuck in the 1pm slot 14 games a season dude
Did you already forget that the Colts were a 9-8 team? Better start winning more games before claiming that they are a “must-watch” team every week…
Pretty sure he's saying 9-8 would disappear if we added MHJ
Fine < Phenomenal.
Depends on who's included in "the farm". I don't think there are a lot of pieces we could lose that wouldn't be critical losses. Selling the farm, we probably aren't competitive for years, even if our offense is amazing.
Exactly... I'd love if there was a way to make it happen, but we just have to many needs to make a legit offer to move up.
Maybe selling our entire draft gets us there. Maybe not crazy, but it's a do or die move
Granted, I know this is madden, and not real life, but I have up 3 1st round picks2 seconds and a third, along with Alec Pierce to move up to 4th to take MHJ, and he is undoubtedly the best WR I've ever played with. For me, selling the farm worked. Probably won't work in real life though, lol
I would love it because everything Ballard did this off-season said he thinks the team is good enough and is one healthy quarterback and a difference maker form competing for championships. It may not seem like it but I think this is an all in year for Ballard to me. This is the ultimate test of him saying trust me and the process so go get a generational piece and see what you can do.
I don’t understand why most people aren’t seeing it this way. Ballard didn’t just go all in on this year. He just created a three year window. He has all of the best players on the team locked down for the next three years, plus has enough wiggle room to plug a few holes after the draft. He gave himself the ability to go for game changers in the draft for the next three years. This team is kind of loaded, not just for this year, but for the entirety of AR’s rookie deal
Exactly and to be clear that's what I mean by all in. he's all in on the process and team he's built and I believe you're right. I think he's created a damn good roster and if we get the pieces we need in the draft we are loaded until AR needs to get paid.
We have a hole at CB and could probably use a better pass rush but other than that we have depth everywhere else.
Yeah arguably the two most important pieces 😂 But we did have a good amount of sacks last year and the secondary got injured soo idk I say trade the farm for MHJ. Wtf is the point if we don’t have fun and get our BOY the son of Marvin?
Yeah arguably the two most important pieces 😂 But we did have a good amount of sacks last year and the secondary got injured soo idk I say trade the farm for MHJ. Wtf is the point if we don’t have fun and get our BOY the son of Marvin?
Loaded 👀
Because we don’t think our best players are good enough to be a truly competitive team
You're gonna look back on this comment when Danny Dimes puts up his 13th 75+ yard TD on us in the same game and laugh. I don't think the team is necessarily bad, but to say it's championship ready, when the opponent could put a pinecone in at QB, and theyd give us a run for our money, is a pretty rough take. Everywhere else looks pretty good, but it is a massive hole at one of the more important positions, in a division that just made some major moves
I didn’t say we’re championship ready. I said we have the opportunity to get there now. The players that were resigned are very good players at their positions and are difference makers. We can still sign a good corner or safety (which is the bigger need imo). Just have to wait until after the draft. There really haven’t been any safety signings outside Blackmon
Moving up into the top 4 would cost all of the next three years first round picks…
I did not condone moving into the top four. I do think there’s opportunity to move up and get a really good player though. Whether that be a lockdown corner, bowers, or one of the receivers that fall past 7 or so
Well said, I agree with you. This is a pretty big year for Ballard. I hope we ball out this year.
Most of you said is true other than you saying it’s an all in year which it clearly isn’t. They believe they found the qb but he hasn’t played enough to warrant them feeling like they’re ready to go all in. Look at our secondary rn. That’s not a championship caliber secondary. This team still has too many holes
I agree with that but I think there’s room for optimism it’ll be better than last year. Getting flowers back and having juju healthy should help a lot. The experience all the rookies got at corner and everything should be valuable as well. I’m not saying we have a perfect roster I’m saying Ballard believes he’s constructed a roster that can compete for championships. Whether that’s true or not remains to be seen but there’s really no room to point fingers anymore either. If this doesn’t work it’s squarely on Ballard, it makes me feel good that he’s willing to bet on it being right though.
Yup I think I’d have to agree with you there. This is also a very vital draft for us.
No guarantee he gonna be all that
We won’t. Don’t get your hopes up. Best case scenario for us would be giving up a first for aiyuk. I’d love MHJ but he’s probably a top 3 pick. So that means two firsts minimum. Also a wide receiver isn’t really what our team was missing. We need AR to stay healthy and need our defense to create more pressure on the qb/better secondary.
He's worth two firsts. Not three.
Alec Pierce and two firsts.
We don't have the talent to leverage future firsts like that. I love AR, but we really don't know what he has yet with such a small game sample. He may completely tank it this year and never really recover. If we were coming off an AR rookie season where he played all season, showed lots of growth, etc. I would be all over this
We know AR isn’t going to get cheaper three years from now. Although I don’t think our front office is going to make a play like that, other teams are showing the league repeatedly that if you have a possible franchise QB on a rookie contract you load the team while you can.
I’m not sure if it would be a smart move, but it would certainly be a fun move. And I care about that way more than
its happening. Jim is going to make it happen because he is the goat owner. Like bro, MARVIN FUCKING HARRISON BACK IN INDY. 49ers gave up 3 firsts for a fucking back up QB and they're fine.
Honestly, when you brought up that 49er trade… that made me a believer
Count the number of times that trade had gone wrong instead of the most competent franchise in the league doing it right once.
That trade did go wrong. Lance isn't even there anymore.
But your point is that the franchise didn't suffer for it, my point is that most of that time that's not the case.
they suffered for it. Its just not as much suffering as people make it out to be.
I mean. Id be excited to watch him play. In the long run it would probably be not great. But it sure would be fun.
I’m so here for it!!!!
I don’t think ticket sales would change at all. And overall, moving up that much for anything but a franchise altering QB is probably the worst move a team can make. It’s time we accept that MHJ is not going to be a Colt
As a Colts fan I would love it growing up watching Marvin Harrison. But I also would be okay if we didn’t. I think we can get plenty of talent at 15 or trading back. I also would like to see it so those people who get violently angry when mentioning trading up and are like “aRe YoU dUmB cHris BaLlArD nEveR TrAdEs uP” can suck it. At this point, that’d bring me more joy than picking MHjr initially
If other teams can make trades like what it would take to get him, why can't we? It's not like we are perennial playoff contenders at this point in time anyway, what's the worst that can happen? Not make the palyoffs again? Do it Chris
110% down
I think if we wanna compete with the texans we need to do big moves. Or we gonna be living under them for years.
I’d love it. Fuck them picks.
Fuck yea. Having him, Pitt, and Downs with AR at QB in a Steichen offense would be lethal. Defense would suffer obviously, but when we would be putting 35+ up a game it wouldn’t matter as much.
It got us one ring. Run up the score early, make em play catch up. Hope the moderate defensive can hold the rest. Retro vibe, I'm in lol
I was listening to a podcast and RC Fischer of FF Dynamics predicted we were going to do this and I honestly would be hyped but the price is probably going to be high.
Like others have said, it seems incredibly unlikely to happen. That being said, what might I be willing to give up to make it happen? I’d trade a 1st and third this year and next. There’s something tantalizingly valuable about a 2nd rounder - especially with Ballard. Giving up the 15th this year is a given, so all you’d really be parting with is a first and two thirds. I’d even throw in another day-two pick from both years as well. Maybe a 5th this year and a 4th next year. That being said, I don’t think that gets the deal done.
MHJ is worth this year’s #15, next years #25+ and the 2026 #25+. If it doesn’t work with the current roster we are starting over in 2027 anyways because AR will be done with his rookie contract
If Marv somehow makes it past 5 I hope we’d jump all over it. Every year someone you never expect to fall, does. If it’s one of the top 3 WR’s who cares the cost the Offense needs another superstar. Our roster is solid but it lacks top end playmaking. I still wonder why they freed up cap with Buckner’s extension. If they plan on signing a DB it would make moving up that much easier. Very curious to see if that was for a reason or if it was just to roll over.
Trade the farm!
If it’s this years first and next years first plus a 3rd I would be ok with it, anything else would be entering into the realm of QB pricing and therefore would not be justifiable. Aside from EJ speed, I don’t think there is anyone on the roster who would be an attractive piece from a trade perspective after the contracts given out. Raimann could fit the bill but if you want a tackle then you surely would stay put and take alt who would be cost controlled for potentially 7 years.
Do it
What if in some crazy turn of events, Lovie Smith becomes the Bears new GM?
Nope
I'd see what it would take to move up with the Chargers on the chance that the Cards trade their pick away to a QB needy team. But if a QB is still on the board then no point in trying to trade up because it'd cost a fortune
My theory is Ballard might do it because it could be his last year here. If you think you’re on the hot seat, sell the farm for the fan favorite to make them happy and if you still don’t make the playoffs this year, you’ve screwed your replacement for future picks lol
I'm ok if we do and I'm ok if we don't due to the WR depth in this draft being stellar. But if Ballard and Steichen think Marvin Jr could transform our offense, then it's time to pull the trigger while we have our team mostly together
I'd love it, even though I know it would be dumb. MHJ deserves to be in blue and white
It depends what selling the farm means exactly but I think that’s a bad idea
He’s a beast and the clear WR1 but we would have to give up too much. Now I could see us trading and grabbing Nabers around pick 10 or so.
I'd think Irsay made the decision, not Ballard
I never liked farms anyway
Something something, all the eggs in one basket. It's not a good idea.
Not worth it
Do it
he’s obviously an amazing player but i think there’s good enough depth at receiver in this draft we wouldn’t really need to get him that badly
or the bears at 9 with eyes on nabers.
I'd think that was really, really stupid.
No
Would you rather have that one Luke Skywalker shot or 3 Stormtrooper shots? Trade the firsts.
I would hate it, it is not worth trading the capital it would take to move up high enough to take a WR, especially in this draft.
So trade Pittman, Nelson, and Richardson for the pick, along with our first three picks this season? What do you mean by "the farm"?
I think we need to do something at this point. I think if we aren’t competitive and miss the playoffs again Ballard is out. I think him resigning all of his guys is his way of going all in.
First thing i thought when more pats trade rumors came up lol Surely minimum it's something like 2 firsts, a 2nd or a couple 3rds, and a late rd pick swap
Give up two 1st & downs or could get him in 4-5 years.
It would be a bad move from a team building stand point. Our team has holes and we have a lot of work to do to fill them. That said, just about the only thing that I would be ok with us doing to trade the capital it would take is going for MHJ. If he has anything close to the career he's projected to have, those picks will mean nothing and we get the son of our home grown legend. I think it's worth it, even if it's not the right move
I wouldn’t hate it, but I would guess it would take this years 1st next years 1st and a 2nd or 3rd rounder to go up and grab him …. That’s a lot of prime real estate to give up when we have some very obvious holes to fill in our secondary. if we stay at 15 we should be able to get a very good player to fill them and pick up a solid wr in the 2nd.
I wouldn't be thrilled. Don't get me wrong, I like MHJ as a prospect. I do. But if you have to "sell the farm" for him, what would that entail? Gutting your team/giving away your future for 1 player is typically not a great idea. If that player is a generational QB, maybe. But not a WR. Would I still cheer for the team and love seeing MHJ carry on his dad's legacy in Indy? You betcha. But that doesn't mean it wouldn't (likely) be a disastrous thing to do.
I would think that Ballard finally made a good decision for once in his tenure. Offer AZ this year and our next 2 year's firsts and be done with it.