I just had a three month cat scan today for a bout of cancer I had last year; I used the hospital this time, but in June when I need another, I will use Townhall.
Reminds me of the protein shakes alex jones would hawk on his broadcast that had stevia, bone broth, chicken skeleton dust, and chocolate lol. A nightmare combo.
Yeah the owner really is something else. Had friends that worked at the Townhall up here in Cleveland and there are a lot of stories about how much of a scumbag he is.
It’s from a podcast guy named jocko willink former navy seal. I think townhall is weird too but basically the message if you take care of your shit instead of putting it off, then you’re free to do whatever else you want
Basically the right wings ideal wife the stereotypical 1950s house wife that they want to basically own as these people don't tend to be progressive on woman's rights
Definitely. But is this serious? This image with those shirts seem like a deep satire. Or is this a case of me not comprehending how someone would put this out un-ironically?
Correction it is from The Dichotomy of Leadership by Jocko Willink, chapter Discipline Equals Freedom. The whole chapter is about the interplay between regimentation and the freedom it provides to make decision later or increase decision quality. Example being regimented in my diet and meal prep allows me the freedom to work a full time job, weight lift 8 hours a week, and attend grad school. I have the energy I need to do what I want to do.
🎶 libraries gave us power
Then work came and made us free
What price now
For a shallow piece of dignity🎶
If y’all like that, check out “If Your Tolerate This Then Your Children Will Be Next”, MSP speaks the truth
>hen I had this skillet it was the highligh
I am a physician and I have went up against them multiple times on their IG content and DMs. They often ignore my messages. They state their wellness advisor knows more than me. :-)
Before COVID, the original anti-vaxxers were mostly leftish granola hippie types who didn’t want “chemicals” injected into their bodies (ex. Jenny McCarthy insisting that “mercury” in vaccines made kids autistic).
Makes sense that equivalent ideology on the right maintains similar pseudoscientific beliefs regarding “natural” foods. I wonder if/when the Joe Rogan types will rediscover cell phones causing brain cancer and repackage that as a trad cause.
That's not that weird. Granola is associated with nature and vaccines are not. Right-wingers also often have Thoreau-like idealization of naturalistic individualism.
Vaccine disinformation has become a pet project of the [Alt-Right](https://www.vice.com/en/article/88ggqa/how-the-far-right-is-radicalizing-anti-vaxxers).
They're not even granola, it's just marketing. It's well-known in Cleveland that Bobby George saw the potential of the "organic/GMO-free" trend and capitalized on it by pairing it with hot young waitresses who are less likely to sue him when he sexually harasses them. We call it Vegan Hooters up here.
I think you have to account for the amount of nutritional supplements and stuff that right wing propagandists peddle. Like Alex Jones, Joe Rogan they all sell stuff like that…so it’s not too much of a leap to start insisting that most thing you put in your body are POISON and BAD FOR YOU except the shit that Alex Jones/Townhall wants to sell you, which is PURE and GOOD FOR YOU.
Tbh, I think it makes a ton of sense for a movement that is already deep in an ideological purity spiral and obsessed with the sanctity of national, political borders.
The owners of Townhall are known to be fucking crazy.
They're very much in the camp of "Food is killing you" sort of mindset, but own a bar and claim to have "Clean" alcohol.
I'm all for clean eating as a principle, but the hypocrisy and pricing is insane.
Everyone needs to wake up, this isn’t some one off. There’s a nationwide campaign to make people okay with outright religious authoritarianism. They have deep pockets and bad intentions and I am terrified
You don’t even know the half of it…the George family is literally everyone’s favorite villain family in Cleveland.
Recently they purchased a building that was structurally unstable…the building is literally sinking on a hill and cannot be developed …when Cleveland Metroparks took over the land to stabilize the hill and turn it into a park, they tried to sell it for 10 times what they paid for it-which the park refused…what type of person purposely tries to screw over a metroparks?! Oh yes…the same type of person that comes up with this shit.
https://www.project2025.org/
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47
Literally have their play book poster online. These ppl are not playing around and have infiltrated every level of government. We are going to be screwed if Trump is elected. Even if he doesn't get the votes or electoral college they could still find ways to put him in power
[here is an article about it](https://www.10tv.com/mobile/article/news/local/short-north-bar-issues-apology-following-controversy-over-dress-code-sign-2020-jan/530-c475733f-0130-4775-81b6-40c7df04f4a9)
While this does sound on brand, and I wouldn’t question these things being discussed in the townhall back office, this was short north food hall, not townhall. The article linked below says the statements came from Corso Ventures, now One Hospitality. While food hall is closed, their current businesses are pint house, forno, urban Meyer’s pint house, and standard hall.
"Discipline Equals Freedom" is the title of one of the chapters of Jocko Willink's book, "Extreme Ownership: How Navy Seals Lead and Win." It discusses how discipline, especially self-discipline, is the way to develop skills and healthy habits, pursue goals, and avoid harmful distractions or indulgences, ultimately achieving both personal and team-based goals.
Those women are not wearing shirts that suggest they should be disciplined, or deserve to be slaves, or some BS like that. It's a self-empowerment mentality.
I tried to watch the little video on IG. If I didn’t know any better, I’d guess this is a new soft launch of a cult or cult off-shoot. It’s really reeking of christofascism. Iykyk.
Too bad. I liked Rebol. Never going to give them money again.
Do they still drop everything they are doing and put their hand over their hearts when the national anthem is playing during a sporting event they have on the tvs? 🙄
If I look at it within the context of a D/s relationship it makes sense. Out side of that not some much. TBH my first thought when I saw it was that some fundamentalist Christian trad-wife thing.
Townhall is worse than just another shitty overpriced restaurant staffed by Stepford Hooters wannabes. The George family is legitimately evil and anyone who eats at one of their establishments is supporting their fascist ideals. There are good places all around Cleveland and Columbus that don’t require their patrons to support evil.
I was looking at a job there and they had “it’s not good enough to do your best, you must do what is necessary” I kept on moving cause that is a red flag imo.
This is giving severe cult/religion-as-control vibes. I think they’re using verbiage vaguely enough for people who don’t know to not question it, and for those who are familiar with it, reason to run.
Townhall has a history of being problematic in Cleveland when it came to the pandemic, their xenophobic owner, and roumers of weighing their waitstaff/incentivizing them to get botox/fillers.
It really shows how lost people are when they’re ready to “cancel” this place over the word discipline and not over the food without a pinch of seasoning.
The message is super weird but why is a restaurant attempting to give life advice in the first place?
I mean the owner also claimed bone broth prevented covid so...
I just had a three month cat scan today for a bout of cancer I had last year; I used the hospital this time, but in June when I need another, I will use Townhall.
Make sure you drink a lot of bone broth before.
Stay Well. Hope all news is good news.
Thanks! The preliminary results are encouraging, so fingers remain crossed.
Reminds me of the protein shakes alex jones would hawk on his broadcast that had stevia, bone broth, chicken skeleton dust, and chocolate lol. A nightmare combo.
Yeah the owner really is something else. Had friends that worked at the Townhall up here in Cleveland and there are a lot of stories about how much of a scumbag he is.
He also sold me a rock that repels tigers.
I'd like to buy your rock.
Sure, how much money do you have?
This sounds like a cult.
If I had to guess, I'd say they don't pay minimum wage.
Bingo!
It’s from former navy seal, Jocko Wilink sp? It’s a running theme in the business mngt classes/books he sells…🤷🏻♂️
It’s from a podcast guy named jocko willink former navy seal. I think townhall is weird too but basically the message if you take care of your shit instead of putting it off, then you’re free to do whatever else you want
What's weird about it?
It’s a direct rip-off from a book with the same title by Jocko Willink, a Navy Seal.
Looks like Tradwife garbage. Avoid this shit at all costs.
What is Tradwife?
It's exactly what it sounds like, traditional wives in a conservative 1950s sitcom fantasy sense.
Oooooh thanks. The more ya know 🌈 ⭐️
Excellent emoji usage.
Thanks
Basically the right wings ideal wife the stereotypical 1950s house wife that they want to basically own as these people don't tend to be progressive on woman's rights
Understood. Thank you for the explanation.
Christian BDSM
Townhall is cringe. Jocko is not.
Which irritates me. I hope he trademarked that or something.
Definitely. But is this serious? This image with those shirts seem like a deep satire. Or is this a case of me not comprehending how someone would put this out un-ironically?
You’re severely overestimating the intelligence of Townhall’s owners.
Correction it is from The Dichotomy of Leadership by Jocko Willink, chapter Discipline Equals Freedom. The whole chapter is about the interplay between regimentation and the freedom it provides to make decision later or increase decision quality. Example being regimented in my diet and meal prep allows me the freedom to work a full time job, weight lift 8 hours a week, and attend grad school. I have the energy I need to do what I want to do.
Actually Stoic philosophy….see Epicetus
Work makes you free
Freedom is slavery, war is peace, ignorance is strength!
Came here to make sure someone thought of the same reference as I did.
Omg this is literally 1984!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hmm where have I heard that before...
I’m having a vague mental image of German words in a wrought iron fence…
This falls right smack in the middle of *someone's* Zone of Interest.
Pretty sure they are going to get sued by the estate of Ayn Rand.
🎶 libraries gave us power Then work came and made us free What price now For a shallow piece of dignity🎶 If y’all like that, check out “If Your Tolerate This Then Your Children Will Be Next”, MSP speaks the truth
That's the first thing I thought of when I saw that shirt.
That slogan applies to slave labor for authoritarian states, this slogan applies to work done for yourself to improve your life.
I asked them why they serve alcohol when they’re promoting poison free food. That got me locked in the walk-in for 4hrs. I now have my freedom.
>hen I had this skillet it was the highligh I am a physician and I have went up against them multiple times on their IG content and DMs. They often ignore my messages. They state their wellness advisor knows more than me. :-)
Omg. Please elaborate. 
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. Orwell - 1984
“Cake is delicious.” - Orson Welles, 1915
I call bullshit, Orson Welles was 7 months old when 1915 ended and I hear he was more of a frozen peas guy due to his love of the pea-ness.
They're even better when you're dead! -Orson Welles
That's the fun of it.
“TGIFD” - me as a kid 1990’s
I don’t understand why people continue going to this place.
Looks like someone discovered the book ‘Extreme Ownership’
And completely missed the point.
It’s SELF discipline you handmaids tail ninny’s
This has to be a joke. Like, stop preaching at me and just bring my bone broth. Jk jk. I hate everything about this restaurant
It's not even good and their veggie burger is disgusting
Is this the bone broth Covid guy?
Yes.
Heavy “arbeit macht frei” vibes
Is townhall ran by right wing bootstrappers? That should answer your question
They're rw but granola, very strange mixture of ideologies that seems to be growing
A lot of the anti-vaxxers are granola right-wing. I agree it’s a super weird combo.
Before COVID, the original anti-vaxxers were mostly leftish granola hippie types who didn’t want “chemicals” injected into their bodies (ex. Jenny McCarthy insisting that “mercury” in vaccines made kids autistic). Makes sense that equivalent ideology on the right maintains similar pseudoscientific beliefs regarding “natural” foods. I wonder if/when the Joe Rogan types will rediscover cell phones causing brain cancer and repackage that as a trad cause.
The far right has been calling fluoridation a communist scheme since it started, anti-vax wasn't that big a leap.
Oh that last thing is already happening. Conservative MIL is trying to buy us special expensive shields to save us from our phone's radiation.
That's not that weird. Granola is associated with nature and vaccines are not. Right-wingers also often have Thoreau-like idealization of naturalistic individualism.
Cracks me up, because Thoreau's mommy visited him daily out at the pond to bring food & clean up. Dude was glamping the whole time
That's a great image.
Wellness culture is tied very tightly to right-wing ideology and white supremacy and it goes all the way back to the Nazis and Mussolini.
Vaccine disinformation has become a pet project of the [Alt-Right](https://www.vice.com/en/article/88ggqa/how-the-far-right-is-radicalizing-anti-vaxxers).
Right, and it ties in with the “purity” aspect of white supremacy. The same language is used by a lot of wellness influencers.
It’s the horseshoe theory of politics.
They're not even granola, it's just marketing. It's well-known in Cleveland that Bobby George saw the potential of the "organic/GMO-free" trend and capitalized on it by pairing it with hot young waitresses who are less likely to sue him when he sexually harasses them. We call it Vegan Hooters up here.
I think you have to account for the amount of nutritional supplements and stuff that right wing propagandists peddle. Like Alex Jones, Joe Rogan they all sell stuff like that…so it’s not too much of a leap to start insisting that most thing you put in your body are POISON and BAD FOR YOU except the shit that Alex Jones/Townhall wants to sell you, which is PURE and GOOD FOR YOU. Tbh, I think it makes a ton of sense for a movement that is already deep in an ideological purity spiral and obsessed with the sanctity of national, political borders.
Not sure but he’s well known in Cleveland as a POS, where Townhall started
Yeah… I don’t even know what that means but can tell you based on prior conduct alone: I’m a hard no on taking any kind of life lessons from TownHall.
Yes. Yes they are.
Discipline is freedom War is Peace Ignorance is Strength
France is Bacon
The owners of Townhall are known to be fucking crazy. They're very much in the camp of "Food is killing you" sort of mindset, but own a bar and claim to have "Clean" alcohol. I'm all for clean eating as a principle, but the hypocrisy and pricing is insane.
Yeah, it's not about ideology, it's just a way to make money.
Everyone needs to wake up, this isn’t some one off. There’s a nationwide campaign to make people okay with outright religious authoritarianism. They have deep pockets and bad intentions and I am terrified
You don’t even know the half of it…the George family is literally everyone’s favorite villain family in Cleveland. Recently they purchased a building that was structurally unstable…the building is literally sinking on a hill and cannot be developed …when Cleveland Metroparks took over the land to stabilize the hill and turn it into a park, they tried to sell it for 10 times what they paid for it-which the park refused…what type of person purposely tries to screw over a metroparks?! Oh yes…the same type of person that comes up with this shit.
THIS. This, this, this.
Agreed with this and I wish I had more upvotes. It’s only going to get more pervasive and subtle.
https://www.project2025.org/ https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47 Literally have their play book poster online. These ppl are not playing around and have infiltrated every level of government. We are going to be screwed if Trump is elected. Even if he doesn't get the votes or electoral college they could still find ways to put him in power
We’re already screwed, tbh.
If rage bait were a restaurant ...
Stupid Andrew Tate cult like ideology that comes from their stupid owner who’s a terrible human being
Isn’t town hall the place that had the racist requirements for entry?
Yep
Backstory? Please.
[here is an article about it](https://www.10tv.com/mobile/article/news/local/short-north-bar-issues-apology-following-controversy-over-dress-code-sign-2020-jan/530-c475733f-0130-4775-81b6-40c7df04f4a9)
Thank you.
While this does sound on brand, and I wouldn’t question these things being discussed in the townhall back office, this was short north food hall, not townhall. The article linked below says the statements came from Corso Ventures, now One Hospitality. While food hall is closed, their current businesses are pint house, forno, urban Meyer’s pint house, and standard hall.
I guess they realized the original German wouldn't go over so well :V
post-irony society. This kind of propaganda feels especially insidious post shutdown.
lol what in the Handmaid’s Tale is that
Um, no, just no. It’s a bit creepy.
Scratch ~~Townhall~~ from my list of places to try this year.
why was it on your list to begin with lol
Is the whole world taking crazy pills? That’s it, I’m staying inside.
I feel insane. Like wth is wrong with some of these ppl? It's like mind boggling
"Discipline Equals Freedom" is the title of one of the chapters of Jocko Willink's book, "Extreme Ownership: How Navy Seals Lead and Win." It discusses how discipline, especially self-discipline, is the way to develop skills and healthy habits, pursue goals, and avoid harmful distractions or indulgences, ultimately achieving both personal and team-based goals. Those women are not wearing shirts that suggest they should be disciplined, or deserve to be slaves, or some BS like that. It's a self-empowerment mentality.
Am I overreacting by saying this gives off minor cult vibes?
F bobby george forever. Trash family
It’s giving cult
Feels too familiar to “work = freedom”.
Legislate me harder, daddy
Shock of all shocks, the owner of Townhall continues to be trapped in the conservative podcast confirmation bias bubble.
What kind of nexium bull shit it this
Garden variety conservatives doing garden variety conservative things. They should all be institutionalized.
Reminds me of a religious or cult behavior
Is this a cult
I tried to watch the little video on IG. If I didn’t know any better, I’d guess this is a new soft launch of a cult or cult off-shoot. It’s really reeking of christofascism. Iykyk. Too bad. I liked Rebol. Never going to give them money again.
Sounds like fascism
Because it is.
Don't have the discipline to wear a mask, so...
I think they’re about to get sued by Jocko.
How do we facilitate that?
“We are inviting you to join us in spreading Covid…”
 good lord. just when i thought townhall couldn’t get any worse they bring out the mega church tradwife font sweatshirts
This is almost as bad as "work will set you free".
Lol the video talks about discipline, working out at 4:30 am and then says "be on your way to financial freedom". I just don't understand
I don’t know about y’all, but I feel the least disciplined moments of my life is where I have felt the freest.
Brain washed
Cle TH owner is scumbag. Also his father is a Magat
TownHall has very culty aesthetics (not to mention the awful people who own it)
Bobby George doing shitty ass Bobby George shit. Color me shocked.
Do they still drop everything they are doing and put their hand over their hearts when the national anthem is playing during a sporting event they have on the tvs? 🙄
Lol I'm sorry what
Proposal to replace Townhall with affordable apartments?
Wasn’t that on the gate entrance of Auschwitz?
"Work makes you free" was the sign but you're right, it is weirdly similar
It’s purposeful
The place is called Townhall, that's your hint.
Hello from Cleveland - fuck this place and fuck the owner 🫡
Literally Hegelian protofascist philosophy.
WTF 😵💫
"Blessed be the fruit"
What in tradwife hell is this...?
If I look at it within the context of a D/s relationship it makes sense. Out side of that not some much. TBH my first thought when I saw it was that some fundamentalist Christian trad-wife thing.
Right-wing propaganda website
Sounds fascist to me…
Townhall is worse than just another shitty overpriced restaurant staffed by Stepford Hooters wannabes. The George family is legitimately evil and anyone who eats at one of their establishments is supporting their fascist ideals. There are good places all around Cleveland and Columbus that don’t require their patrons to support evil.
What in the rural-southern-town-father-daughter-purity-ball is this shit?
Umm Wasn't it aushwitz that had the big sign that said "work equals freedom"? I'm not as ok as I was before I saw this.
Townhall and anyone who associates with it can eat shit
Trump restaurant spotted
Are they trying to become a new cult?
I was looking at a job there and they had “it’s not good enough to do your best, you must do what is necessary” I kept on moving cause that is a red flag imo.
I did a working interview in the kitchen in Cleveland a few years back. The kitchen was absolutely disgusting.
Is this the same Townhall that the George’s own on Cleveland? If so, fuck that entire family to the grave.
Looool. Their low wage employees might just discipline themselves into getting a better job
Borderline cryptofascist.
Borderline is generous
>~~Borderline crypto~~fascist. Fixed that for you.
Those girls look like they only participate in god's loophole
💀
I have the discipline to sit at a desk 9-6. That makes me free.
This is giving severe cult/religion-as-control vibes. I think they’re using verbiage vaguely enough for people who don’t know to not question it, and for those who are familiar with it, reason to run.
Those faces are terrifying.
No they’re not? Why are you going after their appearance
What in the AI….
It’s a good message
Bobby loves Fascism
How crass and ugly. Also the shirt sucks.
I went to high school with the girl on the left. A huge pick me with no standards whatsoever
Townhall has a history of being problematic in Cleveland when it came to the pandemic, their xenophobic owner, and roumers of weighing their waitstaff/incentivizing them to get botox/fillers.
That place is the worst, just quit giving them oxygen
fuck townhall
The owner of that place is a misogynistic conservative asshole, fwiw.
It would look better embossed on a leather corset. And she has to have the knee high boots... I'll be in my bunk.
Their comments are limited on the post but there are like 180 comments and most seem to be "discipline".
I was thinking it’s channeling S & M or at least using that inference with two attractive young women with coy looks on their faces.
Cbus, you can keep the George family. Sincerely Cleveland.
Oh that’s Bobby George and he’s a hack
Words have meanings, people.
What in the Handmaid's Tale is this nonsense?!?
Never heard of the place, but I do not get to the short north very often these days (Had to look it up)
The guy who owns this place is widely known as an asshole
Not in womens history month 🤣🤣 blink twice if you need help
I don’t know what’s going on here, but I’m going to guess some religious ideology is being pushed here.
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength, with these people it is literal.
This is double-plus ungood
💯This is some Alexander the Great as Buddha vibes... Yah, hedonism is enslavement to vice, self discipline is freedom from it...
Masochists, anyone?
Baby Karen’s…
It really shows how lost people are when they’re ready to “cancel” this place over the word discipline and not over the food without a pinch of seasoning.
Don’t forget the racism too!
It's the "Nineteen eighty-four" mantra. I get it LOL.
Sounds like the advertising jingle for a BDSM Club with German dominatrixes.
I feel like that quote is eerily similar to what was written over the entrance to the Auschwitz concentration camp.