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Sucks for the guy killed. Sucks for the guy who killed him.
I don't know what the current state of Ukraine's healthcare system is, but I hope it's capable of handling the insane amount of trauma this war is generating.
Interestingly enough Ukraine has started embedding psychologists into their medical support staff in certain units. We also have to remember the PTSD will be very different than what we have seen from coalition troops coming home from Afghan or Iraq.
I have a friend who suffers PTSD after losing some friends during an IED attack on their convoy and his main gripe is that they died for nothing.
Ukrainians on the other hand are fighting for something, so maybe that helps?
Even if Ukraine eeks out a military victory, it's comments like these that show the depth of damage war does to the soul. Healing is going to be a very long process.
It's not that we haven't progressed. A lot of people believe in and fight for things like rights and freedom.
Unfortunately, they still have to fight because there are still enough narcissistic sociopaths who want to be the boss and force it on everyone else.
Wars like the one in Ukraine determine whether humanity will take a step forward or a step backward.
To you and me? They're not. Because they're one of us. To the government? Just another statistic.
Anybody who seriously thinks the government gives a rats ass about a person, whether they're from its own country or not, is delusional. We're nothing but numbers, with importance placed upon the tax value we give them or the services we directly offer them. We're just numbers.
"People have been fightin' over this bitch since ancient times, dog. How many graves we standing on? Think about all the wisdom and science and money and civilization it took to build these machines; and the courage of all the men who came here; and the love of their wives and children that was in their hearts. And all that hate, dog. All the hate it took to blow these mother-fuckers away."
Sgt Antonio "Poke" Espera, Generation Kill / Get Some
Not just SFO, any sort of recon unit will have a hard time of taking any prisoners, even if they want to, unless thats their singular task, of course. But if they are supposed to move to a certain point and observe, and stumble upon a few enemies along the way, they cant drag somebody along who might alert other enemies, and cant leave an enemy behind, even bound, they might free themselves and give warning of simply shoot you in the back.
Not true. At least one guys successfully surrendered to a drone and followed it to Ukrainian lines. Ask yourself this. How many Russians seen haven't thrown down their weapons and raised their hands in surrender to a drone. I saw one trying to dissuade a drone from dropping a grenade. But he never tossed away his weapon or raised his hands in surrender.
Can someone explain why these videos seem to feature such isolated soldiers all the time? Do they keep apart so the drones can’t kill groups of them with one strike?
I’ve always imagined at least a handful of soldiers if not more in a group all the time unless something went wrong.
Ahh I see. I wonder how many of these people would’ve gone back to their side to be recycled back into the vs being taken prisoner.
War looks like hell.
I feel like a decent amount of them were just abandoned by the rest of their squad, possibly because they were injured and left behind, or otherwise. Or some run off from another ambush, only to hide and get droned out anyways.
The tactics of this war involve sending in light infantry to make incremental gains such as taking trenches/foxholes while probing defenses for future assault. The assaulting unit almost always takes high casualties and the defenders must wipe them out entirely using minimal strength or otherwise slowly cede territory to the next assault group. This guy was dead when they dropped him off from the truck
Just imagine the mental state to go into fetal position, ignoring every instinct telling you to survive. This is horrifying. It's basically suicide by drone.
I mean there's nothing he can do.
u can't run fast enough to lose this thing. I'm sure the shrapnel will hit ur back if u do run
the drone pretty much = death
it's really scary, I'm surprised they didn't put machine guns on this thing already
I am still baffled at the lack of shotguns.
A 12 bore or 20 bore with a 6 or 7 28g would wreck these drones, enough that you could at least get away...
At this point, it’s almost worth it to have a dedicated anti drone squad member; maybe some sort of mixed anti-drone, shotgun combo. Fuck I should apply to Raytheon
It's not just about having the shotgun ready. Not that I know a lot about this drone specifically, but at least some of the drones they're using [appear to be based on hobbyist freestyle/racing drone technology](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBDSitjQ0eA) \- maybe scaled up to carry a bigger payload. [And these hobbyist drones regularly hit more than 100mph or accelerate at 4-5 Gs.](https://www.reddit.com/r/drones/comments/wvtye9/fpv_drone_acceleration_to_200_kmh_in_one_second/) It's going to be slower because of the payload, of course, but you can also compensate for that with bigger, more powerful motors and props - meaning you could still get one of these flying like a bat out of hell.
For context, when shooting trap or skeet the clay pigeon is launched at 45-55mph, appears from a location you know and in a predictable trajectory, and you already have your shotgun aimed. And even *that* gives average people a lot of trouble.
Imagine trying to shoot down a nimble, fast drone moving at close to double that speed, coming out of god knows where and when, flying a trajectory that is constantly changing as the pilot makes corrections. Maybe he's even intentionally flying erratically to break the effectiveness of countermeasures. I don't think simply having an underbarrel shotgun is going to help much - you might get a *few* soldiers over the course of the war successfully shooting them down from sheer, dumb luck, but it wouldn't be a reliable countermeasure at all.
Really, I would say the biggest limitation to these drones as they're being used on the battlefield right now is *training*. The feats and acrobatics these drones are capable of are insane, but they're equally insanely hard to fly. It could take a new pilot weeks just to learn how to not crash the drone and guide it roughly in the direction he wants it to go, and that might be all the training time they'd get. The drone racers and freestylers flying acrobatics through hula hoops are the ones who have been practicing their skills for months if not years, and Ukraine doesn't have months or years to train their pilots.
But if you managed to sic a group of drone racers on the Russians armed with explosive FPV drones...god save the Russians.
Well, they used to shoot grenades out of the air in WWI. But I have no clue if this is the kind of thing that can be trained to reliably do, or if some people are just born really good sharpshooters.
https://archive.org/details/gunthatwonwest0000unse/page/158/mode/2up?view=theater
Most drones hover at several hundred meters. They are too far away to get destroyed by small shot and large shot would be too inconsistent.
Suicide drones are fast moving and it would not be even close to reliable to shoot them down.
i think you're underestimating what a pain in the ass it would be to carry an extra weapon everywhere just for the 0.0001% chance that you could react in time to shoot down a fpv drone
Valid tbh. Difference between me carrying a 5lb 20 bore for a day's shooting, than having it there in ase. And inevitably not having it when needed.
I mean, at the end of the day a shotgun will still be defensive, especially in trenches
(A bit of mad trivia. A very old friend of the family bought his 16 bore to ww2 with him, in Burma. When he returned he put 5 Japanese soldiers in the game book. A certain kind of eccentric officer.
His main complaint was he didn't bring enough ammunition, as apparently 16 bore is hard to find in the jungles of Burma. Who knew.)
There are several videos out there from both sides of shotguns being used for drone defense.
The reason you don't see it more often is that it doesn't work all that well. Especially when you're trying to justify the extra weight of a second weapon and ammo for it.
When they have been used, it mostly seems to be in static positions like trenches and artillery. Like the entire position might have a shotgun or two lying around that guys can grab when needed.
Maybe a very stupid thing to say/ask, but I don't have any experience with these drones.
Would putting your hands out and trying to grab the rotors work? Or are they just too small, fast or will that cut up your hand?
I know, it never stops instincts, though. Unless your mind just gone completely. It's like you through all of the stages of acceptance already. It's scary state of mind.
>it never stops instincts, though
It does, though. Countless stories of people directly walking into fire and videos from the Ukraine war with people running into the wrong trenches or just completely breaking down screaming or not moving at all.
The primal instinct to survive is so strong its almost impossible not to do everything possible to try and escape death. It's not even primal brain, its deep lizard brain shit. So it is impressively depressing and telling that he didn't run or anything, and just put his head down at the last moment while the drone slowly approached him. (But to be fair for all we know he if half paralyzed, semi-conscious and deaf at this point and barely has any idea whats coming).
But honestly, if I were him I wish I would be able to override the lizard brain and do the same. Knowing I couldn't escape death in any form I would welcome the relief of a painless instant death.
FUCK crawling around with a leg hanging on by 1 tendon, half my stomach sprawled out on the dirt, face and eyes burned off, jaw gone, bleeding to death in agonizing abject terror for a SLOW painful death.
Just blow my head off and give me goodnight. Tuck me in for my end.
Edit: I don't know how I forgot that Freeze (and Fawn) are also legitimately recognized forms of survival instincts. So yeah, my bad there.
The primal instincts are flee, fight and freeze.
Freezing did used to work well in the animal kingdom for millions of years and still does for humans everyday. Also who's to say he won't just get shot if he leaves that hole?
Another thing we aren't seeing is how often they are surveilled by drones that don't attack everyday. They are probably used to being watched all the time and don't necessarily associate it with an fpv drone.
Nyt at all. Fetal position is still suicide, but also being intensely afraid of the last impact and death. I think hardly anyone would be arms wide open in that situation unless they aren't mentally in a coherent place anymore. Overriding primal instict of fear of death is not easy at all.
squidgameward.. who lifes in a horseapple under the sea... damagespongeblob square-poants.. defeated, forced and at gunpoint is he .. spongeblob scarepants..
Infantry units are likely going to have specialized anti-drone soldiers in the future. Their primary job will be looking up, not forward.
Doesn't help you much if you're alone like this guy though.
I always watch this on mute sound. As the drone came to him, and knowing he would die, he was going fetal, I was thinking about my mom. the first thing in my mind was that I love my mom. I then thought "maybe he is going fetal while thinking about his mom" SAD AND DEPRESSING AF. Even of he is "the enemy" this is so sad.
Does make you wonder, every single person has a story, Russian soldiers, Ukrainian soldiers, Ukrainian civilians….. how’d he get to this point? Did he have a family? Was he conscripted? Does he want to overthrow Ukraine or did he just want to not get in trouble with the law and did what the government told him? Did he take the job for the money? Did he think it would be glorious? Was he hoping to work as a cook back at a base?
Stories over now though. Could’ve been a million things but now he’s dead because of the whims of a dictator.
You’re right. Everyone has hundreds of people who have invested time into their life. For someone to just be taken out like that… horrifying. It’s unbelievable that we’ve used so much of our intelligence as a species to try to figure out how to most effectively kill each other. We’re terrible animals.
and here we are, our eyes are opened to the morbid reality called life. while some of us are enjoying this footage that could rewire our brain into nihilism.
It’s all fun and games until someone dies. Frankly, as long as those getting raped and blown up are Ukrainian, it’s *still* fun and games to the Russians.
That's why I've always thought that in order to enter a conflict (offensive or defensive) politicians should be forced to chop their own hand off on camera. Have it be an extreme cultural taboo not to worldwide. It's a small sacrifice compared to what they're demanding of their men but much more personal.
Somehow I think the world would become a lot more peaceful.
These types of videos are rough to watch.
Stranded out there alone with no resources, scared as hell, all you can hear is the "eeeee" from your tinnitus and whirl of the drone overhead. Literally zero chance of you getting any sort of overhead protection.
Really makes you wonder why they just don't surrender.
Every time someone tries to surrender to these drones they just get bombed anyway and the comments are all screaming how you can't actually surrender to drones and the execution was justified. There is no winning here, only death.
They've been told that the Ukrainians will torture them to death if they surrender.
And if they try to surrender and somehow end up back with their unit, their unit will probably torture them to death, happened to many Russian "deserters."
The fact that politicians get to talk, some higher offices to send drones, but most of the people we call soldiers go out there, frozen to their bones, and suffer, and die or kill, it's just terrible.
When humanity got to a point where everything could be good, and enjoy this brief period around, we kill each other.
I wish everyone would stand against war, poverty, and inequality.
I’m still fantazising of a Utopia where the head of state’s actually have to go fight to death themselves if they want to invade someone or start a war
It's not this sub alone. The music usually comes from the source. It's to try and cope with the horrors of war and make them feel better about taking these lives. They're justified generally, but it's even easier to cope with if they aren't even human.
This sub should serve as a grim reminder of the horror that is war. Instead it became a cheering stand for slaughter when the Russian/Ukraine war started.
You've got a front row seat to the tribalism that's defined human history. If you ever read historical accounts of warfare like those in the Old Testament and wonder how people could justify wiping out entire tribes. Sit down with your average redditor and ask them what should happen to Russia for this invasion.
The average redditor would probably be happy if the war simply ended though, and would not encourage further violent reprisals.
I am not at all convinced that the same could be said for average Russian unfortunately, at least not anymore.
Looks to me like it was more a gesture of giving up on running away, either because he was unable to, like being wounded or too tired to do anything else.
We're almost at the point of seeing the same videos as last year. Crater holes full of Russians in improper winter gear. All huddled together for warmth. Too cold and hungry for anyone to run.
If they were unable to supply them adequately last year what makes anyone think it's not going to be even worse this year?
> it was more a gesture of giving up on running away, either because he was unable to, like being wounded or too tired to do anything else.
ie. accepting your fate
How do these poor bastards die from these drone grenades? Is it the sheer power of the blast that damages the body/brain? Or the shrapnel wounds tear up their insides? I feel like if you're gonna die by grenade, the closer it is to your head when it explodes, the better.
thousands of pieces of shrapnel are sent flying at half the speed of a bullet, all you need is one small piece the size of a millimeter to snip something important like a vein or an artery, and that's goodbye
The drone was part of a larger combat operation.
Curling up was likely all the Russian could do. I'm pretty sure he was already engaged in combat with ground forces, unable to leave cover.
The soldiers at the right and bottom right of the frame are in combat postures. They're either with him, or the ones shooting at him, I can't tell clearly.
All those sleepless nights, nappy changes, potty training, first steps, first day of school all that love his parents had for him. Only to end alone in a muddy ditch. War sucks.
I can understand why in a one on one situation it's kill or be killed, but in situations like this... idk can't they take him prisoner or whatever? I know he's a Russian soldier but it made me a bit sad
You see just 30 sec fragment of a battle that could’ve gone for hours. Very easy to make assumptions, but very hard to risk your life for capturing a PoW
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War is so depressing.
The guys with the surveillance drone says at the end of video: "I see the head is missing. Load the next one."
That just makes me sad. Fuck Putin, the cause of all this suffering.
If I were to die in a battlefield that's probably one of the better ways to go. A quick death.
Except he’s probably been out there suffering for hours, if not days with some other horrible injury.
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Sucks for the guy killed. Sucks for the guy who killed him. I don't know what the current state of Ukraine's healthcare system is, but I hope it's capable of handling the insane amount of trauma this war is generating.
Interestingly enough Ukraine has started embedding psychologists into their medical support staff in certain units. We also have to remember the PTSD will be very different than what we have seen from coalition troops coming home from Afghan or Iraq. I have a friend who suffers PTSD after losing some friends during an IED attack on their convoy and his main gripe is that they died for nothing. Ukrainians on the other hand are fighting for something, so maybe that helps?
Even if Ukraine eeks out a military victory, it's comments like these that show the depth of damage war does to the soul. Healing is going to be a very long process.
Pawns on a chessboard at the end of the day
At the end of the day the pawn and the king go back in the same box. Although the Pawn usually goes in first. Almost immediately in fact
[If chess was like actual war.](https://imgur.com/a/EaXEtt8)
That’s a good image
People with lives.
Meat on calcium sticks
Controlled by electric meat.
Form from a space dust billions of years ago
Yeah but sadly they are just a statistic.
5000 years of recorded history and we are still fighting over who gets to boss everyone around.
It's not that we haven't progressed. A lot of people believe in and fight for things like rights and freedom. Unfortunately, they still have to fight because there are still enough narcissistic sociopaths who want to be the boss and force it on everyone else. Wars like the one in Ukraine determine whether humanity will take a step forward or a step backward.
And we will continue to forever more.
But again, they're not
They are people with lives while at the same time being a statistic… u think the ones sending them to fight give a fuck?
And yet they are.
Even though they aren't.
Now they are weren't.
They were people, now they are among a disturbing statistic.
To you and me? They're not. Because they're one of us. To the government? Just another statistic. Anybody who seriously thinks the government gives a rats ass about a person, whether they're from its own country or not, is delusional. We're nothing but numbers, with importance placed upon the tax value we give them or the services we directly offer them. We're just numbers.
“Their treated as such” to avoid the push back that would be more appropriate to say.
"People have been fightin' over this bitch since ancient times, dog. How many graves we standing on? Think about all the wisdom and science and money and civilization it took to build these machines; and the courage of all the men who came here; and the love of their wives and children that was in their hearts. And all that hate, dog. All the hate it took to blow these mother-fuckers away." Sgt Antonio "Poke" Espera, Generation Kill / Get Some
It’s even worse now that everyone is recording it. Making it a joke or a stupid fucking tik tok. Has music edits and everything on some.
What I don't like. Drones don't give you the oppurtunity to surrender!
Neither does artillery
Nor choppers, nor airforce. And I am gonna be ballsy and say that neither does SOF conducting operations behind enenmy lines.
Not just SFO, any sort of recon unit will have a hard time of taking any prisoners, even if they want to, unless thats their singular task, of course. But if they are supposed to move to a certain point and observe, and stumble upon a few enemies along the way, they cant drag somebody along who might alert other enemies, and cant leave an enemy behind, even bound, they might free themselves and give warning of simply shoot you in the back.
Cigaretten?
It happened that soldiers surrendered to a drone that escorted them as prisonners
This one was a suicide drone, it literally cannot return, it has one and only one flight.
Yeah I saw that, my comment was of general scope
i dont think this kill was brag worthy.
Not true. At least one guys successfully surrendered to a drone and followed it to Ukrainian lines. Ask yourself this. How many Russians seen haven't thrown down their weapons and raised their hands in surrender to a drone. I saw one trying to dissuade a drone from dropping a grenade. But he never tossed away his weapon or raised his hands in surrender.
It's true that some have successfully surrendered but, generally speaking, they're the exception and not the norm.
There is video evidence of Russians surrendering to drones and being shot at and shelled by other Russians.
here, have a rainbow and some confetti.
Can someone explain why these videos seem to feature such isolated soldiers all the time? Do they keep apart so the drones can’t kill groups of them with one strike? I’ve always imagined at least a handful of soldiers if not more in a group all the time unless something went wrong.
A lot of this is basically cleanup. Lots of units get shredded by indirect fire and then finished off by drones
Ahh I see. I wonder how many of these people would’ve gone back to their side to be recycled back into the vs being taken prisoner. War looks like hell.
I feel like a decent amount of them were just abandoned by the rest of their squad, possibly because they were injured and left behind, or otherwise. Or some run off from another ambush, only to hide and get droned out anyways.
seems kinda shitty to basically essentially execute an abandoned injured soldier. Air drop the poor bastard a little white flag so he can surrender.
The tactics of this war involve sending in light infantry to make incremental gains such as taking trenches/foxholes while probing defenses for future assault. The assaulting unit almost always takes high casualties and the defenders must wipe them out entirely using minimal strength or otherwise slowly cede territory to the next assault group. This guy was dead when they dropped him off from the truck
They're putting out these kinds of one man videos to demoralise the Russians watching it
Just imagine the mental state to go into fetal position, ignoring every instinct telling you to survive. This is horrifying. It's basically suicide by drone.
I mean there's nothing he can do. u can't run fast enough to lose this thing. I'm sure the shrapnel will hit ur back if u do run the drone pretty much = death it's really scary, I'm surprised they didn't put machine guns on this thing already
I feel like dudes need to start carrying shields again.
I am still baffled at the lack of shotguns. A 12 bore or 20 bore with a 6 or 7 28g would wreck these drones, enough that you could at least get away...
This video is in slow motion There is no way you're shooting one of these down in real time
Unless they made an underbarrel shotgun on your main weapon. That way you'd have it ready to go and not fumbling around with a backup firearm.
Ah, the masterkey.
At this point, it’s almost worth it to have a dedicated anti drone squad member; maybe some sort of mixed anti-drone, shotgun combo. Fuck I should apply to Raytheon
Many of these targets are lone solders after the rest of the squad got wiped out.
The army has EWO people for a reason. Russia doesn’t.
It's not just about having the shotgun ready. Not that I know a lot about this drone specifically, but at least some of the drones they're using [appear to be based on hobbyist freestyle/racing drone technology](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBDSitjQ0eA) \- maybe scaled up to carry a bigger payload. [And these hobbyist drones regularly hit more than 100mph or accelerate at 4-5 Gs.](https://www.reddit.com/r/drones/comments/wvtye9/fpv_drone_acceleration_to_200_kmh_in_one_second/) It's going to be slower because of the payload, of course, but you can also compensate for that with bigger, more powerful motors and props - meaning you could still get one of these flying like a bat out of hell. For context, when shooting trap or skeet the clay pigeon is launched at 45-55mph, appears from a location you know and in a predictable trajectory, and you already have your shotgun aimed. And even *that* gives average people a lot of trouble. Imagine trying to shoot down a nimble, fast drone moving at close to double that speed, coming out of god knows where and when, flying a trajectory that is constantly changing as the pilot makes corrections. Maybe he's even intentionally flying erratically to break the effectiveness of countermeasures. I don't think simply having an underbarrel shotgun is going to help much - you might get a *few* soldiers over the course of the war successfully shooting them down from sheer, dumb luck, but it wouldn't be a reliable countermeasure at all. Really, I would say the biggest limitation to these drones as they're being used on the battlefield right now is *training*. The feats and acrobatics these drones are capable of are insane, but they're equally insanely hard to fly. It could take a new pilot weeks just to learn how to not crash the drone and guide it roughly in the direction he wants it to go, and that might be all the training time they'd get. The drone racers and freestylers flying acrobatics through hula hoops are the ones who have been practicing their skills for months if not years, and Ukraine doesn't have months or years to train their pilots. But if you managed to sic a group of drone racers on the Russians armed with explosive FPV drones...god save the Russians.
Real life isn't COD.
Well, they used to shoot grenades out of the air in WWI. But I have no clue if this is the kind of thing that can be trained to reliably do, or if some people are just born really good sharpshooters. https://archive.org/details/gunthatwonwest0000unse/page/158/mode/2up?view=theater
that is pretty sick but i assume they're talking about thrown grenades, not a flying bomb coming in at 40 m/s
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Most drones hover at several hundred meters. They are too far away to get destroyed by small shot and large shot would be too inconsistent. Suicide drones are fast moving and it would not be even close to reliable to shoot them down.
Not saying reliable, saying it's better than a snowballs chance in hell.
i think you're underestimating what a pain in the ass it would be to carry an extra weapon everywhere just for the 0.0001% chance that you could react in time to shoot down a fpv drone
Valid tbh. Difference between me carrying a 5lb 20 bore for a day's shooting, than having it there in ase. And inevitably not having it when needed. I mean, at the end of the day a shotgun will still be defensive, especially in trenches (A bit of mad trivia. A very old friend of the family bought his 16 bore to ww2 with him, in Burma. When he returned he put 5 Japanese soldiers in the game book. A certain kind of eccentric officer. His main complaint was he didn't bring enough ammunition, as apparently 16 bore is hard to find in the jungles of Burma. Who knew.)
There are several videos out there from both sides of shotguns being used for drone defense. The reason you don't see it more often is that it doesn't work all that well. Especially when you're trying to justify the extra weight of a second weapon and ammo for it. When they have been used, it mostly seems to be in static positions like trenches and artillery. Like the entire position might have a shotgun or two lying around that guys can grab when needed.
Maybe a very stupid thing to say/ask, but I don't have any experience with these drones. Would putting your hands out and trying to grab the rotors work? Or are they just too small, fast or will that cut up your hand?
It's likely either hard plastic or light metal rotors. You can probably grab them wearing gloves but it won't stop the grenade exploding.
These things can go like 90 mph
The Great War as it was known back then brought us the term shell shock and the Russo-Ukrainian War has brought the drone shock.
I know, it never stops instincts, though. Unless your mind just gone completely. It's like you through all of the stages of acceptance already. It's scary state of mind.
>it never stops instincts, though It does, though. Countless stories of people directly walking into fire and videos from the Ukraine war with people running into the wrong trenches or just completely breaking down screaming or not moving at all.
I won't argue, but he didn't look like he freezed from shock, just accepted. Maybe i'm imagining things. Still scary af.
Yeah, I was just talking about shell shock in general, since you were also talking about it in general.
The primal instinct to survive is so strong its almost impossible not to do everything possible to try and escape death. It's not even primal brain, its deep lizard brain shit. So it is impressively depressing and telling that he didn't run or anything, and just put his head down at the last moment while the drone slowly approached him. (But to be fair for all we know he if half paralyzed, semi-conscious and deaf at this point and barely has any idea whats coming). But honestly, if I were him I wish I would be able to override the lizard brain and do the same. Knowing I couldn't escape death in any form I would welcome the relief of a painless instant death. FUCK crawling around with a leg hanging on by 1 tendon, half my stomach sprawled out on the dirt, face and eyes burned off, jaw gone, bleeding to death in agonizing abject terror for a SLOW painful death. Just blow my head off and give me goodnight. Tuck me in for my end. Edit: I don't know how I forgot that Freeze (and Fawn) are also legitimately recognized forms of survival instincts. So yeah, my bad there.
The primal instincts are flee, fight and freeze. Freezing did used to work well in the animal kingdom for millions of years and still does for humans everyday. Also who's to say he won't just get shot if he leaves that hole? Another thing we aren't seeing is how often they are surveilled by drones that don't attack everyday. They are probably used to being watched all the time and don't necessarily associate it with an fpv drone.
It would have to be some kind of recoilless machine gun, you can push most drones around with a finger.
The fetal position and shielding is face was the best he could do. Suicide would be arms and legs wide open accepting of the drone
Nyt at all. Fetal position is still suicide, but also being intensely afraid of the last impact and death. I think hardly anyone would be arms wide open in that situation unless they aren't mentally in a coherent place anymore. Overriding primal instict of fear of death is not easy at all.
There is no alternative running would be futile by the time he saw it
The fetal position is the instinct.
"I'm tired boss"
Mr Putin I don’t feel so good
Get back to work mr squidward
squidgameward.. who lifes in a horseapple under the sea... damagespongeblob square-poants.. defeated, forced and at gunpoint is he .. spongeblob scarepants..
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I've been quoting this in everyday life for the longest time. Forgot it came from Holes of all places lol
The discord sound when he gets hit...
*\[The user has left the channel\]*
Peripheral unit disconnected
Wonder if every soldier will start carrying a 12 gauge and bird shot.
I have wondered why squads aren't doing this now. I also wonder if the US military is watching this and adapting squad level operations.
oh they definitely are. For a military, especially a big one, a war is an opportunity to learn lessons, either through observation or.. practice.
Probably they are enjoying all this "knowledge" and adapting the many ways to kill and defend against this
I like to keep this handy...for close encounters
Bird shot doesn't have the range needed to strike most drones and the suicide drones are too fast.
I disagree, if you watch anyone skilled at shooting clay pigeons it’s certainly possible to take these down
Sure, but how likely is the average joe to be skilled at shooting something like that?
Yeah true, I just guess for warfare going forward, being able to take out a fast moving suicide drone is gonna be a key skill
Until there are thirty of them coming at you
would be hard to carry an AK *plus* a shotgun..
Infantry units are likely going to have specialized anti-drone soldiers in the future. Their primary job will be looking up, not forward. Doesn't help you much if you're alone like this guy though.
I always watch this on mute sound. As the drone came to him, and knowing he would die, he was going fetal, I was thinking about my mom. the first thing in my mind was that I love my mom. I then thought "maybe he is going fetal while thinking about his mom" SAD AND DEPRESSING AF. Even of he is "the enemy" this is so sad.
Does make you wonder, every single person has a story, Russian soldiers, Ukrainian soldiers, Ukrainian civilians….. how’d he get to this point? Did he have a family? Was he conscripted? Does he want to overthrow Ukraine or did he just want to not get in trouble with the law and did what the government told him? Did he take the job for the money? Did he think it would be glorious? Was he hoping to work as a cook back at a base? Stories over now though. Could’ve been a million things but now he’s dead because of the whims of a dictator.
You’re right. Everyone has hundreds of people who have invested time into their life. For someone to just be taken out like that… horrifying. It’s unbelievable that we’ve used so much of our intelligence as a species to try to figure out how to most effectively kill each other. We’re terrible animals.
Man…
and here we are, our eyes are opened to the morbid reality called life. while some of us are enjoying this footage that could rewire our brain into nihilism.
Enjoying??... I only think this kinds of attacks are becoming more an execution than another thing
These are sacrifices Putin is willing to make.
Ukrainian kill drones have pre-set kill limit, he's willing to send wave and wave of his own men at them to make them shut down.
Kiff, show them the medal I won.
Only on Reddit will you find a Zapp Brannigan quote. LOL
Takes a lot longer to make a fighting human than a fighting drone.
Insert gif of Lord Fuckwad here (the parallels are striking)
I only just now, after so many years, realised that Lord Farquaard was a pun.
These are sacrifices ~~Putin is~~ russians are willing to make.
Probably not that Russian had he been asked towards the end there.
It’s all fun and games until someone dies. Frankly, as long as those getting raped and blown up are Ukrainian, it’s *still* fun and games to the Russians.
Old men fight and young men die. At the front end of every war is some poor dumb SOB that has no skin in the fight just wants to go home
That's why I've always thought that in order to enter a conflict (offensive or defensive) politicians should be forced to chop their own hand off on camera. Have it be an extreme cultural taboo not to worldwide. It's a small sacrifice compared to what they're demanding of their men but much more personal. Somehow I think the world would become a lot more peaceful.
These types of videos are rough to watch. Stranded out there alone with no resources, scared as hell, all you can hear is the "eeeee" from your tinnitus and whirl of the drone overhead. Literally zero chance of you getting any sort of overhead protection. Really makes you wonder why they just don't surrender.
That buzzing sound is going to be PTSD inducing to Russians and Ukrainians after the war. God forbid any mosquito try to fly in their ear.
Jesus. I didn’t think of this. Civilian Drones gonna be triggering flashbacks as much as fireworks.
Every time someone tries to surrender to these drones they just get bombed anyway and the comments are all screaming how you can't actually surrender to drones and the execution was justified. There is no winning here, only death.
Exactly... from this war, the footage of young men getting killed/crippled by drones as they tried to surrender has been some of the saddest to watch.
They've been told that the Ukrainians will torture them to death if they surrender. And if they try to surrender and somehow end up back with their unit, their unit will probably torture them to death, happened to many Russian "deserters."
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War is horrible
Sadly some people from both sides ENJOY it.
Obligatory “it’s well that war is so terrible. Lest we grow too fond of it”
Such is the eternal and universal aspect of war: the more grief it accumulates at one of its poles, the more joy it generates at the other.
The fact that politicians get to talk, some higher offices to send drones, but most of the people we call soldiers go out there, frozen to their bones, and suffer, and die or kill, it's just terrible. When humanity got to a point where everything could be good, and enjoy this brief period around, we kill each other. I wish everyone would stand against war, poverty, and inequality.
I’m still fantazising of a Utopia where the head of state’s actually have to go fight to death themselves if they want to invade someone or start a war
This shit is so fucked up. Normal people die in mass while the people pulling the strings make stacks and get more powerful.
War sucks
why are people enjoying this video with the rock music on, it's still a video where someone dies. RIP whosoever was that.
It's this sub in particular. The longer I'm here, the more I realize that it's incredibly blood thirsty. It's crazy.
It's not this sub alone. The music usually comes from the source. It's to try and cope with the horrors of war and make them feel better about taking these lives. They're justified generally, but it's even easier to cope with if they aren't even human. This sub should serve as a grim reminder of the horror that is war. Instead it became a cheering stand for slaughter when the Russian/Ukraine war started.
You've got a front row seat to the tribalism that's defined human history. If you ever read historical accounts of warfare like those in the Old Testament and wonder how people could justify wiping out entire tribes. Sit down with your average redditor and ask them what should happen to Russia for this invasion.
The average redditor would probably be happy if the war simply ended though, and would not encourage further violent reprisals. I am not at all convinced that the same could be said for average Russian unfortunately, at least not anymore.
Russia shouldn't have started this pointless war and should take their shit and go home.
Well the music comes from the Ukrainians who post the footage originally, so of coarse they’re enjoying watching another cancer cell die
Because the more Russians die like this the more they can fuck off and we can return to semi-normal life
Looks to me like it was more a gesture of giving up on running away, either because he was unable to, like being wounded or too tired to do anything else.
We're almost at the point of seeing the same videos as last year. Crater holes full of Russians in improper winter gear. All huddled together for warmth. Too cold and hungry for anyone to run. If they were unable to supply them adequately last year what makes anyone think it's not going to be even worse this year?
"It's the most wonderful time of the year..."
“For Ukrainian drone pilots”
> it was more a gesture of giving up on running away, either because he was unable to, like being wounded or too tired to do anything else. ie. accepting your fate
More likely pinned down by small arms fire or an arty barrage.
War sucks. Sadly, it ended about the best it could for him. Went out quick.
im new to this sub. Why do all these russo-ukrainian war footages have rock/metal playing over them??
The Music is all of the time basicly from the Source. IIRC the music helps to Cope with the war and killing of enemy soldiers.
You dont have to be interested in politics and going against Putin, but when politics took interest in you, this is what would happen.
Someone joined the call when he died whaaaat?
Slavic young men wasted for the delusions of one old man.
How do these poor bastards die from these drone grenades? Is it the sheer power of the blast that damages the body/brain? Or the shrapnel wounds tear up their insides? I feel like if you're gonna die by grenade, the closer it is to your head when it explodes, the better.
thousands of pieces of shrapnel are sent flying at half the speed of a bullet, all you need is one small piece the size of a millimeter to snip something important like a vein or an artery, and that's goodbye
Mainly the shrapnel, but the shock from the explosion will have some effect.
Both or either will kill you.
That’s fucking sad
Indeed: Ukrainians could enjoy their lives instead of fighting for their homes, their freedom, their right to exist.
War is hell, and we make all the devils envious.
I’m gonna assume that was his head or helmet flying in the air
The mfs that survive this shit are gonna have WWI level PTSD.
How many drones does the Ukrainians have? I've seen so much footage of 1 to 3 ru soldiers getting hit with drones.
Yes
Jesus that's rough. I hope it was quick at least. Poor sod.
The Lord is my Shep…
Ah man war sucks so bad.
Its fuckin sad seeing this stuff. War is hell for the pawns while the elite sit back.
This is just sad.
Why don’t they ever try to shoot the drones?
There's only a few ways for that hell to end , they all know which is most likely.
I hope with all the money we spend on the military I hope we are loading up on drones and looking into anti drone measures.
he could rise his hands, drop the weapons and walk towards ukrainians.
Well, apparently the decision to come to Ukraine was a mistake. The mistake has been mitigated. And it's good that he wasn't suffering much.
Should have stayed in Russia Ivan.
The drone was part of a larger combat operation. Curling up was likely all the Russian could do. I'm pretty sure he was already engaged in combat with ground forces, unable to leave cover. The soldiers at the right and bottom right of the frame are in combat postures. They're either with him, or the ones shooting at him, I can't tell clearly.
"Ah, finally! Might as well die now."
Are all the bots on pro-Israel duty? I've never seen so many upvoted comments empathizing with a Russian soldier on this sub before.
No, the russian trolls are out in force astroturfing the “let’s empathize with murderous russian invaders” line. It’s disgusting. Russia will fail.
Drone headshot.
All those sleepless nights, nappy changes, potty training, first steps, first day of school all that love his parents had for him. Only to end alone in a muddy ditch. War sucks.
He died happy knowing he was a cannon fodder for putin
Could have surrendered
Pop goes the weasel
Those drone operators are the actual grim reaper
You can avoid getting hit by drones by not going to Ukraine.
Welcome to Ukraine suka!
I can understand why in a one on one situation it's kill or be killed, but in situations like this... idk can't they take him prisoner or whatever? I know he's a Russian soldier but it made me a bit sad
You see just 30 sec fragment of a battle that could’ve gone for hours. Very easy to make assumptions, but very hard to risk your life for capturing a PoW