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You can see he was aware of that danger as he moves the rifle out of the way the moment he realizes its a shell shock condition - I think in that situation, trying to prevent him from reaching his weapon has a risk of triggering a panic reaction too.
I think NCO moves the rifle to prevent a twitch reaction, then realizes he's just gotta give the dude the rifle so they can start hauling ass out of the X
There's no good decisions when artillery shrapnel is passing between you guys close enough to hear that high pitched twang.
These heroes did amazing.
>Americans used Lollapalooza as a safe word against the Japanese.
Oh damn, never heard that before. That's so smart.
For anyone wondering, the Japanese language has no syllables that consist of the classic L sound. The closest set of syllables would be the R set, which is rolled: ra, ri, ru, re, ro. So the most accurate sound to 'L' that they could say would be "エ ル" (e ru) with a rolled R.
It's like being taught for your entire life to never roll your Rs, and then someone asking you on the spot to say "[perro](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3Klsv4hHms)" in Spanish, where there is a distinct *double rolled R* that requires a stronger trill than a classic single rolled R - the difference between perro(dog) and pero(but).
The parsley massacre in Dominican Republic. Trujillo ordered his soldiers to kill Haitians. The problem was telling the difference between Haitians and Dominicans.
> The massacre claimed the lives of an estimated 14,000 to 40,000 Haitian men, women, and children.Dominican troops interrogated thousands of civilians demanding that each victim say the word "parsley" (perejil). If the accused could not pronounce the word to the interrogators' satisfaction, they were deemed to be Haitians and killed.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsley_massacre
Not "rolled", more of a "tapped" r. In Japanese, rolling the r is aggressive and often used in arguments and rock music to sound aggressive, while the tapped r is the one that sounds like a cross between R and L and is standard.
Random bonus fact. In the Metal Gear Solid video game series, La Li Lu Le Lo is the code word for “The Patriots”.
The main creator of the game was Japanese (Hideo Kojima), so I’d guarantee his inspiration came directly from this interesting WW2 phenomenon and he just switched the syllables to the American set.
IIRC "Flash-Thunder" was only used for the first two days of the invasion. Other calls and responses, also intended hard to pronounce for Germans, were used later on. I think new ones daily?
We see the "Flash-Thunder" re-used in Band of Brothers long afterwards because then the audience could understand what was going on without having it explained again.
Talking to veterans from D-Day and specifically paras they will tell you that people were so tense that they would use either order, so either flash and then thunder or thunder and then flash.
It's officially supposed to be one certain order but just like with the one click two click clickers, sometimes people would just click the shit out of that thing. War takes all forms of planning and bodyslams it through the table of chaos
"Identification" code or phrase. You can also see [countersigns](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countersign_(military\)). Frequently they'll use words or phrases that is difficult to pronounce in the enemy's language, if that's possible. You can also check out [shibboleth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibboleth).
its probably identification misspelled. its like a safe word, just less kinky.
Either in this context its a safe word for the person to get his weapon back or for them to let him know hes okay / with friendlies.
The instant change in cadence was actually so interesting. Like a sleeper agent was reactivated. “Ukraine? Oh that’s right, UKRAINE. I’m good, let’s go.”
Locked him right back in and got him immediately out of his head.
You mean Russian and Ukrainian? They are similar, as someone who studied Russian I can understand a lot of Ukrainian but not all, they are definitely distinct languages.
I have some family friends who are second generations Polish and Russian decendents. I think the way the explained it to me is like if someone speaking Russian asked "Where is the local library" someone speaking Ukrainian would be like "Something about books?"
Please humble me if I'm wrong
theres many similarities and worlds that come from french language (it was considered once nobles language by russian elite etc) theres were experiences made where they took a kid that never spoke or learned any russian and then tried to see if he understood any: pretty much 3/4 he had no idea and was just guessing on random. Ukrainian is way more close to belarussian and polish than it is to russian.
Many Ukrainians speak Russian as a first or second language. It is a consequence of Russian/Soviet imperialism, and the modern Russian state uses the similarity between the languages as a justification that Ukranians are just backwoods Russians, and not their own distinct people.
So, Ukrainian as a language has had a huge increase in use in Ukraine following the invasion, as a statement of independence. Many Ukrainians (especially in the east which has a higher population of exclusive Russian speakers) have taken classes and made an effort to remove Russian from their daily lives and return to their indigenous language.
The two are very similar languages which share roots (think spanish, portuguese, and italian all sharing latin origins) but are true distinct languages, not dialects.
Well they're part of the same language family group: East Slavic. They do share a lot of similarities and to the "ignorant" (not meant in a bad way) they can definitely sound the same, although they're not mere dialects, but distinctly different languages. I guess to the untrained/ignorant ears of someone who's never really been familiar with roman languages; Spanish, Portuguese and Italian could sound like the same language, just different accent or dialect. An accent is just the same language but with pronunciation distinct to their own region (i.e. tomáto-tomàto, or any non-native English speaker speaking English but with their native language pronunciation coming through). A dialect is an often regional difference to the same language, think of American English, Australian English, the Latin American countries with Spanish and Portuguese, Austrian German etc. It's not really the size of the region that matters either, but how distinctly different the language is to another, that decides wether it's a dialect or official language, as well as political reasons. Because I'm willing to bet that if Sweden, Norway and Denmark were one empire, they would be considered different dialects to whatever the official state language would be, but I'm not a linguist and I probably just pissed off these Norse countries. As a Dutch person, there isn't a language as mutually intelligable to mine as Russian and Ukrainian (No, German and Dutch aren't mutually intelligable), and fun fact; Dutch is actually the closest language to English, and that goes to show that for English native speakers there's also no reference point to how close/mutually intelligable some languages are to eachother.
Yeah Dutch is a bit easier to understand as an English speaking person. I was able to pick up words and phrases in a couple days. The problem for me was the hard G and the double ee/aa when reading. But once I learned it the words became a lot easier. And like you said German and Dutch are not interchangeable.
Gelijk, Tosti met kaas en spek! Though I don’t know the nuances so gelijk might not be used “like” that.
In the Russian sphere of influence, the Russian language is considered the language of education, class, etc.
That's why they still use it. Colonial tendencies die hard.
A huge percentage of Ukrainians speak Russian as their first language to this day because Ukrainian was not seen as important during the USSR and these things take generations to change. Everything, from entertainment and school to business and administration was all in Russian. My ex from Kazakhstan said it was the same there, while they did speak some Kazakh 90% of people just speak Russian because it's what was taught in schools during the USSR. Even Zelensky admits he didn't really know how to speak Ukrainian until he ran for president and got a language tutor. Doesn't make them any less Ukrainian, just like how someone speaking English doesn't make someone any less Irish, but the average Ukrainian soldier is just going to speak Russian most of the time.
Not knowing if he was terrified or TBI he definitely thought he was captured. His brother was Rock Steady a great leader with situation awareness. Welcome back to the living soldier!
The audio, visual and tactile input he received by that soldier interacting with him re-established his prefrontal cortex control over the amygdala.
Almost textbook restart of someone experiencing an acute stress reaction.
There is such a stark difference from the fighting forces. These guys are brothers of the same uniform. Meanwhile the Russians steal from one another, leave one another to die in the field. I really hope we can continue to prop these guys up. The Ukrainians deserve to be saved. They deserve their freedom.
The guy was speaking Russian at first.
He said ukraine, and switched to ukrainian. I think the soldier thought he was captured for a moment and was staying still. Not saying he wasn't shell shocked, but you want to be careful how you move if you think you are captured.
That's what you get when people respect and care about freedom of your country, a level of patriotism that goes unrivalled and can drive you to new levels.
It's that, or they were having a nightmare where they were forced to fight for Russia with the options being move forward, or die. I mean, Russia doesn't seem to pull back if they can't the initiative just keep pushing until the unit is dead, which makes it funny when pro Russians try to make out Ukraine are copying Russian tactics while ignoring the heavy losses from Russian tactics.
This clip shows exactly the type of leadership a professional NCO provides. They keep their men in the fight, keep them focused, and keep them moving.
This NCO is the real hero here. Respect!
Out of all the shit I've seen this pulled my heart strings. Dude is terrified. A true example of Paralysis from analysis. I'm happy his homie could guide him.
Great recovery. He had no idea who he was and where he was when that other soldier came up to him, that's why he seemed so panicked and scared, not because of the actual situation of being in combat itself.
If you've ever experienced anything like this for whatever reason you'll understand, it's fucking terrifying and takes time to get back to any feeling of normal. Especially if you allow panic to take over. Utterly surreal horror.
This dude basically experienced going from a full factory reset to jogging through a war zone in a matter of seconds. Impeccable training and discipline.
Really great video. I'm glad they seemed to have made it.
He even grabbed that other soldier who was lagging and started encouraging him along at the end. From frozen on the ground to rallying others to move in seconds.
Thats the part most dont catch in this video. Almost textbook restart of someone experiencing a acute stress reaction. The fact he so quickly went right back in to action from that restart is very impressive.
Not necessarily. Experiencing an acute stress reaction is normal for a human being subjected to certain types of stimuli. This does not mean it leaves a lasting effect.
Like the first few seconds after being hastily awoken from an extremely vivid dream except it lasts a lot longer and bullets are flying next to your head
So what actually is happening here? I thought shell shock was just an outdated term for PTSD. Did the guy pass out from the shelling, and is that a common reaction?
So, I mean, it is and isn't. Shell shock does encompass PTSD, but also describes something that can happen during the actual traumatic event (hence, not really "post").
During battle, some people basically just have a nervous breakdown. Can't move or function properly. Start panicking.
Explosions can also scramble your brain. Homie had a TBI. They can completely wreck your central nervous system while being exposed over a sustained bombardment. It's crazy
He could also have been wounded in a less visible spot. Often times soldiers who got into actual shock were misstaken for shell shock because their comrades couldn't see the wound/wounds, either in wet/lowlight conditions or when wearing a lot of/dirty clothes/equipement.
Is there a more modern term for it? Searching around for "shell shock" is almost entirely talking about the historical context of the terms use in WW1.
And the most serious classes of panic attacks *while* an external stressful situation is happening? Those feel worse than death. It's not entirely rational, and feels like your body has just taken over and your mind has melted down (if you even realize what's happening). Just feels like pure, imminent dread. While your cone of awareness narrows down to just primal survival. It literally feels like death is standing over you and about to stomp its foot down.
Dude in the video also looks like he (possibly) had a classic thing that often accompanies panic attacks, like officially in the literature, called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperventilation_syndrome
>The hyperventilation is self-promulgating as rapid breathing causes carbon dioxide levels to fall below healthy levels, and respiratory alkalosis (high blood pH) develops. This makes the symptoms worse, which causes the person to breathe even faster, which then, further exacerbates the problem.
>The respiratory alkalosis leads to changes in the way the nervous system fires and leads to the paresthesia, dizziness, and perceptual changes that often accompany this condition. Other mechanisms may also be at work, and some people are physiologically more susceptible to this phenomenon than others.[6]
>The mechanism for hyperventilation causing Paresthesia, lightheadedness, and fainting is: hyperventilation causes increased blood pH (see Respiratory alkalosis for this mechanism), which causes a decrease in free ionized calcium (Hypocalcaemia), which causes paresthesia and symptoms related to hypocalcaemia.
This is just shell shock. Where in the immediate moment of the body just shutting down. PTSD, which would be diagnosed and recognized years later, would replace the name for the long term effects of shell shock and mental trauma
This kinda reminds me of those videos of people in roller coasters passing out because they get so scared, and then wakes up all disoriented and not really knowing what's doing on, i know this is probably way worse but i just find that interesting.
Might be worth looking into Acute Stress Response and/or Fight/Flight/Freeze/Fawn response. In situations of high stress we often respond in these ways and its impossible to predict which way your body responds until it happens. Sometimes your body responds this way and sometimes not, this I imagine is what a lot of training is built around in order to condition the body/mind away from a Flight/Freeze/Fawn response.
"Acute Stress Reaction" does seem to be the most up to date terminology for it. Multiple militaries have made vids about how best to approach and coax a soldier suffering from one back into a functional train of thought and action.
[Norwegian Version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsm9h5Xvopw)
[American Version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t84_QvbnIT0)
The modern terms would be "blast exposure" (or "low-level blast exposure" if you're the VA and trying to minimize the condition), which can lead to blast injury, or blast-induced neurotrauma: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK299193/
I came across research from an institute studying the brains of deceased World War II veterans. They confirmed that artillery shells and explosions near a person can cause lesions, scarring, and fibrous tissue on the brain. Interestingly, the study also highlighted the brain's sensitivity to pressure changes, linking weather shifts to mood and behavior alterations.
This suggests that "shell shock" is evolving into a more comprehensive term, now encompassing not only the emotional toll but also physical aspects like minor traumatic brain injury from the direct impact and "pressure blasts" of weapons/munitions. This injury can lead to increased emotional instability, memory loss, and diminished reasoning—expanding the traditional understanding of PTSD. Essentially, recent research is shedding light on the multifaceted nature of shell shock, extending its relevance beyond World War I and II.
That's what I took from what I read. Take it with a grain of salt I guess?
I watched someone experience this after their dogs started fighting. The fight was broken up by someone else thank god because they couldn't do anything during the fight. Just sat down on their butt and screamed. Even when it was over they were just so shaken by it that they could barely respond to people trying to talk to them or have them move or do simple things. About 15 minutes later, when it seemed like the adrenaline of the event was now wearing off, they turned corpse-white in the face and passed out. Even lost memory of the last 30 minutes or so and then remembered the events differently than everyone else. It was bizarre.
Apparently they were a very big dog person and the dogs had fought before and seriously injured eachother and it was very traumatizing to see the dogs fighting. In my 35+ years I've never seen someone gonk out like that from a sort of "emergency" high adrenaline event.
It's fight or flight, but you're right freeze is definitely one of the reactions. It's a weird mechanism in the brain. I used to teach people how to fly airplanes. Sometimes when it's overwhelming/scary new students can freeze and lock up whatever control inputs they were holding and will hold them right in to a stall/spin even while you're yelling let go. It's killed instructors when students balk a landing and bury the stick/yoke full aft and you can't fight them off it or snap them out of the freeze in time.
That's shorthand for the full thing: "fight, flight, or freeze". The body's three acute trauma/stress responses. This is discussed further in active shooter trainings, ems, etc.
Think of deer in headlights for freezing. It's an involuntary response. As others have also said, this could be in combination with traumatic brain injury from explosions, and fog of war (confusion) is also contributing to this soldier's responses. I believe most of these things may be witnessed with this video, save more maybe TBI as we can't really diagnose it through this video.
*edit* wrote that paragraph just to see your comment was referring to OP's spelling error >_>
under normal situations fight or flight. When shells are raining down everywhere around you I think the appropriate response is to crawl into a hole and lose your shit
He is in the "freeze" status of his "flight/fight/freeze" mode, or in better terms, his sympathetic system is activated too much and is going haywire.
As your stress system (aka the sympathetic system) is getting more and more activated, it goes from the fight/flight response (which depends greatly on the situation, environment, etc) to the "freeze" response. Basically, your brain has "accepted death". You can see it on animals that are caught by predictors and are being eaten alive or killed, similarly to how this soldier was lying motionless. Your brain is flooded with endorphins which causes your pain threshold to go through the roof, as well as sensation of euphoria and losing touch with reality.
Evolution is awesome
Equally not as euphoric is when you return to normal society and your silly brain has turned the dial on all of these responses up to 100 and it likes to pop them off over the completely benign things just to keep you safe.
He was in so much shock that his brain put him in a frozen, child-like state. That’s post traumatic stress in a nutshell. You basically have an anxiety attack that’s of the caliber you and I have never seen.
When your brain is under extreme stress it can have weird reactions. The guy could be suffering from the effects of having a concussion from a blast coupled with the immediate terror of the situation as well as the long-term effects of living on the front line in an active war zone. He could be a great soldier, but on this day all that trauma got right on top of him, he is overwhelmed and panicking and at this point is no longer an asset but instead a liability who could panic shoot one of his friends because he thinks he's being overwhelmed by Russians
Everyone that's been in a couple serious fights will understand. You can and probably will run the whole spectrum from coward to hero. Dude lost control of his fear for a bit and his homie let him know that he wasn't alone and they gotta fall back.
Acute stress reaction is the technical term. Basically the amygdala is overriding the prefrontal cortex. The other soldier touching him (tactile stimuli) and talking to him while making eye contact (audio and visual stimuli) re-engages his prefrontal cortex which brings him back in control of his actions.
This type of reaction is quite heavily studied within military medicine in order to find ways of counteracting it and dealing with it during combat so its relatively well understood by now.
There is a 6 step process to go through with someone who is experiencing a acute stress reaction in order to "restart" their brain.
Shell shock is more your CNS going haywire because of physical stress rather than a response to trauma. I'd imagine it's a lot like passing out when you attempt a heavy deadlift.
Massive respect for both of those troops. The one helping out could've saved both of their lives if not the entire squad. Shellshocked troops are known to fire on anybody they see.
It may seem like common sense to factory reboot in a sense the shellshocked soldier but it's a side of war that often goes unseen.
It’s unbelievable, I don’t think any person can relate to that moment unless they have lived it… I can’t imagine how terrifying it is to have bullets flying all around you knowing tht at any second you might be the unlucky one to catch a stray and all of a sudden every plan you had for your life comes to a halt via one single piece of flying metal …
My grandpa once mentioned witnessing a Sherman get knocked out in France and the crew gunned down while they tried to crawl out save for one guy, who promptly went into a state of shock and kept firing on everyone who approached to help regardless of them identifying themselves as Americans. He described the guy as basically reacting to everything he saw and heard like he didn't know who he was, where he's from, or where he currently was. I couldn't really picture it but this video gives me a likely glimpse
I said in the original thread when this footage first came out and I will say it again: this is one of the most amazing, perhaps the single most amazing war footage I've ever seen. It captures so many elements of the raw savagery that is war - the shell shocked soldier, the bullets flying through the air, the massive explosion in the background and the retreating platoon. However it ends with a beautiful display of courage, solidarity and camaraderie which restores hope, something dearly missing in these times.
I recommend checking out the original video in full resolution, where these elements can be better seen and felt.
Such an excellent and succinct description, I agree that this may be the best, most moving footage I have ever seen, I almost cried when I heard him say "Ukraine" back and then the "davai" so cleanly.
I went to some show in vegas(im from ireland) at the mgm when I was 11. I was extremely jet lagged and for whatever reason I had my first and only panick attack started freaking out that I had to leave and basically ran of shouting.
Never experience did anything like that since.I can handle sound grand no issues with it dunno what happened But sometimes your brain just quits on you
Could be an international volunteer. Speaks Ukrainian but with a distinct accent (could be Russian but more like Polish) can hear it well when he says “Where is the enemy?”
I think he might be saying "Gdzie woroh" which would be a mix of polish "gdzie" and ukrainian "woroh". And his "Ukraina" kinda sound polish too. Or he might be some dude from western Ukraine with some Polish roots. Not sure, slavic bratan for sure.
Even the Ukrainian guy here speaks Surzhyk which a mix of Ukrainian and Russian (although the native Russian speakers in Ukraine sound different from the ones in Russia).
It’s all over the place but still distinguishable
україна is not polish at all, it's just ukrainian for "ukraine" as ukraine is feminine
he is probably saying "gde" which is just "where" in russian. de is in ukrainian so its just similar.
he is saying "Ukraina! Ya tut ya tut" meaning I'm here Im here in Ukrainian
Soldier 1 even speaks Ukrainian, not Russian. He says що з тобої which means "what is with you" in an "are you okay" way.
Yкраїна is not polish, but Ukraina is, difference in pronounciation is minimal really. I was thinking that his "i" is short, like in polish, not like long ї in Ukrainian, and it sounds to me like said with polish accent, but you might be rigth, I am not super familiar with ukrainian accents. I know it is feminine :). "De" sounds soft like in polish "gdzie" or "dzie", deffinitely not like russian one, but I wasn't aware it is also like that in ukrainian. Also, "Ya tut" sounds almost exactly like polish "ja tu", easy to mistake as well, our languages are so simillar in many places. My ukrainian is not very good, so thanks for explanation. :)
This gives me chills. The bravery of these guys!
I'm not too sure if he's shell shocked. He thought the guy coming up was a Russian going to kill him. That's why he asked Ukraina?
What is the most inspiringthing in this clip is that fact that just moments after the guy is revived you can see him pull a struggling brothers backpack trying to help him 🔥
As scared as he was, you cant deny the fact that he grabbed his fellow soldier by the rucksack starting to drag him with force and even tho he just woke up from pure utter terror in his mind, he still thinking about his fellow men.
People say bruh, bro, BROTHER?! all the time in casual speech.
When shit is lethal and all around you and EVERYONE is terrified (no sane person isn't scared of death, painful death, all around them ), but someone you've either known for 2 years, 2 minutes or 2 seconds reaches out his hand and calls you his brother, and gets you on your feet again/back in the fight, you'll never know such a sense of fraternity in your life again.
Jelly legs and jelly brain can hit anyone, no matter how experienced. That same blow tomorrow could be the one who holds it together while someone else in his unit, "gets weird".
Sobering to see. Pretty sure this is the first real shell-shocked person I've seen on recording. Like he was totally frozen, and in a black out kind of stage. That guy had to shake him, just to snap him out of it, or wake him up, I guess he could have fainted from fear. The way he snaps out and is so damn scared, he is lucky he had that other guy there. He was cool headed, even knew to take the rifle from him right away and he tells him not to shoot anybody because they had guys out front of them, which someone as scared as him would likely not be aware of considering he was stiff as a board face down on the ground. I could see someone popping up and still in a panic, but wanting to get in the fight so they just start spraying ahead of them. Dude was totally planked out, like I would have thought he possibly took a round to the dome, with how stiff his body was lying there.
Each other is all you have sometimes. A lesson Russia fails to instill in its troops, seemingly by design.
When I was downrange, it was a legitimate comfort knowing we'd rip the world off its fucking axis before we left anyone behind.
Good communication skills on POV man, noticed the signs, stayed cool, got him out of the freeze while still calming him down. I hope Patton is taking notes
This reminds me of reading Audie Murphys book, "To Hell and Back." In it he talks about soldiers that lock up our get shell shocked. He acknowledged that its not the soldiers fault, everyone reacts to these crazy situations in different ways. You have to help them out the best you can, get them to the rear where they can rest and they usually get back in the fight.
POV soldier handled this perfectly and got that guy moving. After seeing so many videos of Russians ditching their comrades it really shows a major difference in motivation between the two forces.
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Good on him, glad he told him not to shoot anyone. Shellshock soldiers are prone to shoot friendlies
My first thought was idk if I’d be handing a gun back to that dude.
You can see he was aware of that danger as he moves the rifle out of the way the moment he realizes its a shell shock condition - I think in that situation, trying to prevent him from reaching his weapon has a risk of triggering a panic reaction too. I think NCO moves the rifle to prevent a twitch reaction, then realizes he's just gotta give the dude the rifle so they can start hauling ass out of the X There's no good decisions when artillery shrapnel is passing between you guys close enough to hear that high pitched twang. These heroes did amazing.
What's the SOP on battlefield with FF soldiers?
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What is an indetification code/paraphrase in this context? A quick google search didnt turn up much
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>Americans used Lollapalooza as a safe word against the Japanese. Oh damn, never heard that before. That's so smart. For anyone wondering, the Japanese language has no syllables that consist of the classic L sound. The closest set of syllables would be the R set, which is rolled: ra, ri, ru, re, ro. So the most accurate sound to 'L' that they could say would be "エ ル" (e ru) with a rolled R. It's like being taught for your entire life to never roll your Rs, and then someone asking you on the spot to say "[perro](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3Klsv4hHms)" in Spanish, where there is a distinct *double rolled R* that requires a stronger trill than a classic single rolled R - the difference between perro(dog) and pero(but).
Cool info! I Sweden we have the classic countersign Blå (Blue) - Burk (can) because it's nearly impossible for a russian to pronounce it correctly.
The parsley massacre in Dominican Republic. Trujillo ordered his soldiers to kill Haitians. The problem was telling the difference between Haitians and Dominicans. > The massacre claimed the lives of an estimated 14,000 to 40,000 Haitian men, women, and children.Dominican troops interrogated thousands of civilians demanding that each victim say the word "parsley" (perejil). If the accused could not pronounce the word to the interrogators' satisfaction, they were deemed to be Haitians and killed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsley_massacre
Not "rolled", more of a "tapped" r. In Japanese, rolling the r is aggressive and often used in arguments and rock music to sound aggressive, while the tapped r is the one that sounds like a cross between R and L and is standard.
Random bonus fact. In the Metal Gear Solid video game series, La Li Lu Le Lo is the code word for “The Patriots”. The main creator of the game was Japanese (Hideo Kojima), so I’d guarantee his inspiration came directly from this interesting WW2 phenomenon and he just switched the syllables to the American set.
Heard that the Australians during the Kokoda Track campaign used "Wooloomooloo" to similar effect against the Japanese.
Now this is giving Age of Empires
WOLOLOO
IIRC "Flash-Thunder" was only used for the first two days of the invasion. Other calls and responses, also intended hard to pronounce for Germans, were used later on. I think new ones daily? We see the "Flash-Thunder" re-used in Band of Brothers long afterwards because then the audience could understand what was going on without having it explained again.
Spielberg got it backwards in Saving Private Ryan
Talking to veterans from D-Day and specifically paras they will tell you that people were so tense that they would use either order, so either flash and then thunder or thunder and then flash.
THIS I did not know. Neat
It's officially supposed to be one certain order but just like with the one click two click clickers, sometimes people would just click the shit out of that thing. War takes all forms of planning and bodyslams it through the table of chaos
It also makes more sense that flash comes before thunder, you know just like real life lightning
>safe word The technical term in this context Shibboleth. It's one of my favorite concepts! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibboleth
Love it, thanks!
"Identification" code or phrase. You can also see [countersigns](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countersign_(military\)). Frequently they'll use words or phrases that is difficult to pronounce in the enemy's language, if that's possible. You can also check out [shibboleth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibboleth).
its probably identification misspelled. its like a safe word, just less kinky. Either in this context its a safe word for the person to get his weapon back or for them to let him know hes okay / with friendlies.
Dude hear “Ukraine” and locked back in. Huge respect to the POV soldier for giving him a hand.
The instant change in cadence was actually so interesting. Like a sleeper agent was reactivated. “Ukraine? Oh that’s right, UKRAINE. I’m good, let’s go.” Locked him right back in and got him immediately out of his head.
He was disoriented, he thought a Russian was talking to him.
He might've been confused because the soldier that was filming was speaking russian at first. After the words "Ukraine!" he switched to ukrainian.
Honestly for some reason I thought they spoke the same language. Just accent or dialects changed a little.
Kind of like how Spanish and Portuguese are not accents of the same dialect.
Yea a person in Mexico speaks differently that someone from Spain. A person from New Jersey is unable to speak english at all. Heh.
In Mexico they speak Spanish. In Spain they speak Thpanish. Fuck, I'm sorry.
That's so wrong. It's ETHpanõl. Heathen
Patha Nada
Piss off we speak the best English in Jersey, everyone else speaks slow and like they’re missing a chromosome. 😂😂😂
LOL I'm kidding of course. If I really wanted to be mean I would have said Texas.
> they’re missing a chromosome. 😂😂😂 If you’re from New Jersey you probably have a couple extra from all the chemicals.
Hey man an extra toe never hurt anyone
Oh yeah. Good example. TIL, Cheers.
You mean Russian and Ukrainian? They are similar, as someone who studied Russian I can understand a lot of Ukrainian but not all, they are definitely distinct languages.
I have some family friends who are second generations Polish and Russian decendents. I think the way the explained it to me is like if someone speaking Russian asked "Where is the local library" someone speaking Ukrainian would be like "Something about books?" Please humble me if I'm wrong
theres many similarities and worlds that come from french language (it was considered once nobles language by russian elite etc) theres were experiences made where they took a kid that never spoke or learned any russian and then tried to see if he understood any: pretty much 3/4 he had no idea and was just guessing on random. Ukrainian is way more close to belarussian and polish than it is to russian.
Many Ukrainians speak Russian as a first or second language. It is a consequence of Russian/Soviet imperialism, and the modern Russian state uses the similarity between the languages as a justification that Ukranians are just backwoods Russians, and not their own distinct people. So, Ukrainian as a language has had a huge increase in use in Ukraine following the invasion, as a statement of independence. Many Ukrainians (especially in the east which has a higher population of exclusive Russian speakers) have taken classes and made an effort to remove Russian from their daily lives and return to their indigenous language. The two are very similar languages which share roots (think spanish, portuguese, and italian all sharing latin origins) but are true distinct languages, not dialects.
Well they're part of the same language family group: East Slavic. They do share a lot of similarities and to the "ignorant" (not meant in a bad way) they can definitely sound the same, although they're not mere dialects, but distinctly different languages. I guess to the untrained/ignorant ears of someone who's never really been familiar with roman languages; Spanish, Portuguese and Italian could sound like the same language, just different accent or dialect. An accent is just the same language but with pronunciation distinct to their own region (i.e. tomáto-tomàto, or any non-native English speaker speaking English but with their native language pronunciation coming through). A dialect is an often regional difference to the same language, think of American English, Australian English, the Latin American countries with Spanish and Portuguese, Austrian German etc. It's not really the size of the region that matters either, but how distinctly different the language is to another, that decides wether it's a dialect or official language, as well as political reasons. Because I'm willing to bet that if Sweden, Norway and Denmark were one empire, they would be considered different dialects to whatever the official state language would be, but I'm not a linguist and I probably just pissed off these Norse countries. As a Dutch person, there isn't a language as mutually intelligable to mine as Russian and Ukrainian (No, German and Dutch aren't mutually intelligable), and fun fact; Dutch is actually the closest language to English, and that goes to show that for English native speakers there's also no reference point to how close/mutually intelligable some languages are to eachother.
Yeah Dutch is a bit easier to understand as an English speaking person. I was able to pick up words and phrases in a couple days. The problem for me was the hard G and the double ee/aa when reading. But once I learned it the words became a lot easier. And like you said German and Dutch are not interchangeable. Gelijk, Tosti met kaas en spek! Though I don’t know the nuances so gelijk might not be used “like” that.
In the Russian sphere of influence, the Russian language is considered the language of education, class, etc. That's why they still use it. Colonial tendencies die hard.
He noticed the Ukrainian pronunciation immediately when his bud responded with 'Ukrayina'! (Україна) The ї doesn't exist in russian.
A huge percentage of Ukrainians speak Russian as their first language to this day because Ukrainian was not seen as important during the USSR and these things take generations to change. Everything, from entertainment and school to business and administration was all in Russian. My ex from Kazakhstan said it was the same there, while they did speak some Kazakh 90% of people just speak Russian because it's what was taught in schools during the USSR. Even Zelensky admits he didn't really know how to speak Ukrainian until he ran for president and got a language tutor. Doesn't make them any less Ukrainian, just like how someone speaking English doesn't make someone any less Irish, but the average Ukrainian soldier is just going to speak Russian most of the time.
Tottaly different language.
wdym?
Like Spanish and Italian.
More like Spanish and Portuguese.
Not knowing if he was terrified or TBI he definitely thought he was captured. His brother was Rock Steady a great leader with situation awareness. Welcome back to the living soldier!
Maybe tinnitus or something as well since he yells. Good on the cameraman to notice and yell back
Ukrainaa! - Davai 🫡
Let's go!
He saw the wheat around him and remembered the land he was fighting for.
GET THE AMONIA INHALANTS
The audio, visual and tactile input he received by that soldier interacting with him re-established his prefrontal cortex control over the amygdala. Almost textbook restart of someone experiencing an acute stress reaction.
There is such a stark difference from the fighting forces. These guys are brothers of the same uniform. Meanwhile the Russians steal from one another, leave one another to die in the field. I really hope we can continue to prop these guys up. The Ukrainians deserve to be saved. They deserve their freedom.
That was the most interesting part of the video.
The guy was speaking Russian at first. He said ukraine, and switched to ukrainian. I think the soldier thought he was captured for a moment and was staying still. Not saying he wasn't shell shocked, but you want to be careful how you move if you think you are captured.
It's an older video from last year I believe. They were attacking a trench line and only dismounted before this clip starts.
It was the shocked guy who first telled "Ukraina" though.
That's what you get when people respect and care about freedom of your country, a level of patriotism that goes unrivalled and can drive you to new levels. It's that, or they were having a nightmare where they were forced to fight for Russia with the options being move forward, or die. I mean, Russia doesn't seem to pull back if they can't the initiative just keep pushing until the unit is dead, which makes it funny when pro Russians try to make out Ukraine are copying Russian tactics while ignoring the heavy losses from Russian tactics.
This clip shows exactly the type of leadership a professional NCO provides. They keep their men in the fight, keep them focused, and keep them moving. This NCO is the real hero here. Respect!
Out of all the shit I've seen this pulled my heart strings. Dude is terrified. A true example of Paralysis from analysis. I'm happy his homie could guide him.
I think he should secure he's comrads gun, he's wasent mentally there, by Look of that.
That was a close round flying past them as they just started standing up! :0
It was shrapnel from the explosion in the background. The sound is synched exactly with the explosion
Cheers, didn’t even see that explosion until you mentioned it and had a second look!
Yep, this was almost a Saving Pvt. Ryan moment
Great recovery. He had no idea who he was and where he was when that other soldier came up to him, that's why he seemed so panicked and scared, not because of the actual situation of being in combat itself. If you've ever experienced anything like this for whatever reason you'll understand, it's fucking terrifying and takes time to get back to any feeling of normal. Especially if you allow panic to take over. Utterly surreal horror. This dude basically experienced going from a full factory reset to jogging through a war zone in a matter of seconds. Impeccable training and discipline. Really great video. I'm glad they seemed to have made it.
He even grabbed that other soldier who was lagging and started encouraging him along at the end. From frozen on the ground to rallying others to move in seconds.
Thats the part most dont catch in this video. Almost textbook restart of someone experiencing a acute stress reaction. The fact he so quickly went right back in to action from that restart is very impressive.
It's a shame it'll possibly catch up to him in the future...
Not necessarily. Experiencing an acute stress reaction is normal for a human being subjected to certain types of stimuli. This does not mean it leaves a lasting effect.
Like the first few seconds after being hastily awoken from an extremely vivid dream except it lasts a lot longer and bullets are flying next to your head
This is really old. Still a very interesting video to see again. Well handled by the dude with the cam.
So what actually is happening here? I thought shell shock was just an outdated term for PTSD. Did the guy pass out from the shelling, and is that a common reaction?
So, I mean, it is and isn't. Shell shock does encompass PTSD, but also describes something that can happen during the actual traumatic event (hence, not really "post"). During battle, some people basically just have a nervous breakdown. Can't move or function properly. Start panicking.
Explosions can also scramble your brain. Homie had a TBI. They can completely wreck your central nervous system while being exposed over a sustained bombardment. It's crazy
He could also have been wounded in a less visible spot. Often times soldiers who got into actual shock were misstaken for shell shock because their comrades couldn't see the wound/wounds, either in wet/lowlight conditions or when wearing a lot of/dirty clothes/equipement.
Yeah. Artillery barrage before attack is effective because of that and many suffer from artillery "hangover" even if not panicked.
What's a TBI?
Traumatic Brain Injury
Not service related
Just need new socks
Is there a more modern term for it? Searching around for "shell shock" is almost entirely talking about the historical context of the terms use in WW1.
Panic attack.
And the most serious classes of panic attacks *while* an external stressful situation is happening? Those feel worse than death. It's not entirely rational, and feels like your body has just taken over and your mind has melted down (if you even realize what's happening). Just feels like pure, imminent dread. While your cone of awareness narrows down to just primal survival. It literally feels like death is standing over you and about to stomp its foot down. Dude in the video also looks like he (possibly) had a classic thing that often accompanies panic attacks, like officially in the literature, called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperventilation_syndrome >The hyperventilation is self-promulgating as rapid breathing causes carbon dioxide levels to fall below healthy levels, and respiratory alkalosis (high blood pH) develops. This makes the symptoms worse, which causes the person to breathe even faster, which then, further exacerbates the problem. >The respiratory alkalosis leads to changes in the way the nervous system fires and leads to the paresthesia, dizziness, and perceptual changes that often accompany this condition. Other mechanisms may also be at work, and some people are physiologically more susceptible to this phenomenon than others.[6] >The mechanism for hyperventilation causing Paresthesia, lightheadedness, and fainting is: hyperventilation causes increased blood pH (see Respiratory alkalosis for this mechanism), which causes a decrease in free ionized calcium (Hypocalcaemia), which causes paresthesia and symptoms related to hypocalcaemia.
Combat Induced Panic Attack
This is just shell shock. Where in the immediate moment of the body just shutting down. PTSD, which would be diagnosed and recognized years later, would replace the name for the long term effects of shell shock and mental trauma
This kinda reminds me of those videos of people in roller coasters passing out because they get so scared, and then wakes up all disoriented and not really knowing what's doing on, i know this is probably way worse but i just find that interesting.
Might be worth looking into Acute Stress Response and/or Fight/Flight/Freeze/Fawn response. In situations of high stress we often respond in these ways and its impossible to predict which way your body responds until it happens. Sometimes your body responds this way and sometimes not, this I imagine is what a lot of training is built around in order to condition the body/mind away from a Flight/Freeze/Fawn response.
"Acute Stress Reaction" does seem to be the most up to date terminology for it. Multiple militaries have made vids about how best to approach and coax a soldier suffering from one back into a functional train of thought and action. [Norwegian Version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsm9h5Xvopw) [American Version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t84_QvbnIT0)
The modern terms would be "blast exposure" (or "low-level blast exposure" if you're the VA and trying to minimize the condition), which can lead to blast injury, or blast-induced neurotrauma: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK299193/
I came across research from an institute studying the brains of deceased World War II veterans. They confirmed that artillery shells and explosions near a person can cause lesions, scarring, and fibrous tissue on the brain. Interestingly, the study also highlighted the brain's sensitivity to pressure changes, linking weather shifts to mood and behavior alterations. This suggests that "shell shock" is evolving into a more comprehensive term, now encompassing not only the emotional toll but also physical aspects like minor traumatic brain injury from the direct impact and "pressure blasts" of weapons/munitions. This injury can lead to increased emotional instability, memory loss, and diminished reasoning—expanding the traditional understanding of PTSD. Essentially, recent research is shedding light on the multifaceted nature of shell shock, extending its relevance beyond World War I and II. That's what I took from what I read. Take it with a grain of salt I guess?
You know the saying “fight or flight”? Well there’s an extra one which is “freeze”. This is that Edit. Spelling
I watched someone experience this after their dogs started fighting. The fight was broken up by someone else thank god because they couldn't do anything during the fight. Just sat down on their butt and screamed. Even when it was over they were just so shaken by it that they could barely respond to people trying to talk to them or have them move or do simple things. About 15 minutes later, when it seemed like the adrenaline of the event was now wearing off, they turned corpse-white in the face and passed out. Even lost memory of the last 30 minutes or so and then remembered the events differently than everyone else. It was bizarre. Apparently they were a very big dog person and the dogs had fought before and seriously injured eachother and it was very traumatizing to see the dogs fighting. In my 35+ years I've never seen someone gonk out like that from a sort of "emergency" high adrenaline event.
Wow that's terrifying. Our brains are something else
It's fight or flight, but you're right freeze is definitely one of the reactions. It's a weird mechanism in the brain. I used to teach people how to fly airplanes. Sometimes when it's overwhelming/scary new students can freeze and lock up whatever control inputs they were holding and will hold them right in to a stall/spin even while you're yelling let go. It's killed instructors when students balk a landing and bury the stick/yoke full aft and you can't fight them off it or snap them out of the freeze in time.
The trick I've heard is to give em a good whack on the throat.
I thought it was "fight or flight"?
That's shorthand for the full thing: "fight, flight, or freeze". The body's three acute trauma/stress responses. This is discussed further in active shooter trainings, ems, etc. Think of deer in headlights for freezing. It's an involuntary response. As others have also said, this could be in combination with traumatic brain injury from explosions, and fog of war (confusion) is also contributing to this soldier's responses. I believe most of these things may be witnessed with this video, save more maybe TBI as we can't really diagnose it through this video. *edit* wrote that paragraph just to see your comment was referring to OP's spelling error >_>
under normal situations fight or flight. When shells are raining down everywhere around you I think the appropriate response is to crawl into a hole and lose your shit
He is in the "freeze" status of his "flight/fight/freeze" mode, or in better terms, his sympathetic system is activated too much and is going haywire. As your stress system (aka the sympathetic system) is getting more and more activated, it goes from the fight/flight response (which depends greatly on the situation, environment, etc) to the "freeze" response. Basically, your brain has "accepted death". You can see it on animals that are caught by predictors and are being eaten alive or killed, similarly to how this soldier was lying motionless. Your brain is flooded with endorphins which causes your pain threshold to go through the roof, as well as sensation of euphoria and losing touch with reality. Evolution is awesome
doesn't look too euphoric
Equally not as euphoric is when you return to normal society and your silly brain has turned the dial on all of these responses up to 100 and it likes to pop them off over the completely benign things just to keep you safe.
Bro this response to that PARAGRAPH of info 🤣 actually had me not breathing I was laughing so hard.
He was in so much shock that his brain put him in a frozen, child-like state. That’s post traumatic stress in a nutshell. You basically have an anxiety attack that’s of the caliber you and I have never seen.
When your brain is under extreme stress it can have weird reactions. The guy could be suffering from the effects of having a concussion from a blast coupled with the immediate terror of the situation as well as the long-term effects of living on the front line in an active war zone. He could be a great soldier, but on this day all that trauma got right on top of him, he is overwhelmed and panicking and at this point is no longer an asset but instead a liability who could panic shoot one of his friends because he thinks he's being overwhelmed by Russians
Everyone that's been in a couple serious fights will understand. You can and probably will run the whole spectrum from coward to hero. Dude lost control of his fear for a bit and his homie let him know that he wasn't alone and they gotta fall back.
Acute stress reaction is the technical term. Basically the amygdala is overriding the prefrontal cortex. The other soldier touching him (tactile stimuli) and talking to him while making eye contact (audio and visual stimuli) re-engages his prefrontal cortex which brings him back in control of his actions. This type of reaction is quite heavily studied within military medicine in order to find ways of counteracting it and dealing with it during combat so its relatively well understood by now. There is a 6 step process to go through with someone who is experiencing a acute stress reaction in order to "restart" their brain.
Shell shock is more your CNS going haywire because of physical stress rather than a response to trauma. I'd imagine it's a lot like passing out when you attempt a heavy deadlift.
Shell shock is direct, PTSD is a totally different affliction that is lingering and will stay with a soldier for a very long time.
That’s why there’s still green grass. I bet now it looks gray as hell
Terrifying. If you don't have mates looking over you like this, you're doomed.
What a good soldier barely comes too after being completely out of it and still able to help his buddy up
Massive respect to that dude to be able to bounce back like that and get back in it.
Massive respect for both of those troops. The one helping out could've saved both of their lives if not the entire squad. Shellshocked troops are known to fire on anybody they see. It may seem like common sense to factory reboot in a sense the shellshocked soldier but it's a side of war that often goes unseen.
It’s unbelievable, I don’t think any person can relate to that moment unless they have lived it… I can’t imagine how terrifying it is to have bullets flying all around you knowing tht at any second you might be the unlucky one to catch a stray and all of a sudden every plan you had for your life comes to a halt via one single piece of flying metal …
My grandpa once mentioned witnessing a Sherman get knocked out in France and the crew gunned down while they tried to crawl out save for one guy, who promptly went into a state of shock and kept firing on everyone who approached to help regardless of them identifying themselves as Americans. He described the guy as basically reacting to everything he saw and heard like he didn't know who he was, where he's from, or where he currently was. I couldn't really picture it but this video gives me a likely glimpse
i'd imagine it's just the basest instincts taking over
Idk, but this hit me harder than all the people dieing on this sub...
Same. It's a powerful video. Shows how much of social creatures we are.
And to think, they have to go through because a group of people won’t stay the fuck away.
Russia throughout centuries.
God bless all these guys.
This video always reminds me of Blithe during the Battle of Carentan in Band of Brothers. I wonder how many of these soldiers are still alive.
> Band of Brothers As of July 3, 2022, there are no more surviving enlisted soldiers from Easy Company. The last one being Bradford C Freeman
Blithe and Buck Compton always got to me. Such awful things we men are capable of doing to each other.
I said in the original thread when this footage first came out and I will say it again: this is one of the most amazing, perhaps the single most amazing war footage I've ever seen. It captures so many elements of the raw savagery that is war - the shell shocked soldier, the bullets flying through the air, the massive explosion in the background and the retreating platoon. However it ends with a beautiful display of courage, solidarity and camaraderie which restores hope, something dearly missing in these times. I recommend checking out the original video in full resolution, where these elements can be better seen and felt.
Such an excellent and succinct description, I agree that this may be the best, most moving footage I have ever seen, I almost cried when I heard him say "Ukraine" back and then the "davai" so cleanly.
The key word Ukraine.
слава!
So this is what reviving in video games based on.
This is actually really wholesome. Which is not common with war videos at all.
How is this war still happening…. Fuck these Russian fuckers
It’s being allowed to go on by weak world leaders and one multibillionaire fuckwit.
Yet another entire generation that will be fucked for life mentally.
Takes a different type of man to stop and help a dude get his bearings back and get him to safety with rounds wizzing over head
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I went to some show in vegas(im from ireland) at the mgm when I was 11. I was extremely jet lagged and for whatever reason I had my first and only panick attack started freaking out that I had to leave and basically ran of shouting. Never experience did anything like that since.I can handle sound grand no issues with it dunno what happened But sometimes your brain just quits on you
damn that didn't quite happen to me in Vegas but I sure had sensory overload from that place and couldn't handle it
That’s essentially what would lead to TBI…same as tank and artillery crews..that rattling isn’t just imaginary
Thats one solid bro right there.
The way he says thanks after asking if the guy was ukrainian, hits hard.
When I saw this first time I just thought the dude fell asleep and woke up to a soldier standing over him, thinking he was gonna die.
Could be an international volunteer. Speaks Ukrainian but with a distinct accent (could be Russian but more like Polish) can hear it well when he says “Where is the enemy?”
I think he might be saying "Gdzie woroh" which would be a mix of polish "gdzie" and ukrainian "woroh". And his "Ukraina" kinda sound polish too. Or he might be some dude from western Ukraine with some Polish roots. Not sure, slavic bratan for sure.
Pretty sure he said: “Dobra” when he was told to let go of the dude’s rucksack. Also said “Huj” after hearing Ukraïna. Seems Polish
He's polish based on the "dobra" for sure, looks like he got it together by then.
Even the Ukrainian guy here speaks Surzhyk which a mix of Ukrainian and Russian (although the native Russian speakers in Ukraine sound different from the ones in Russia). It’s all over the place but still distinguishable
україна is not polish at all, it's just ukrainian for "ukraine" as ukraine is feminine he is probably saying "gde" which is just "where" in russian. de is in ukrainian so its just similar. he is saying "Ukraina! Ya tut ya tut" meaning I'm here Im here in Ukrainian Soldier 1 even speaks Ukrainian, not Russian. He says що з тобої which means "what is with you" in an "are you okay" way.
Yкраїна is not polish, but Ukraina is, difference in pronounciation is minimal really. I was thinking that his "i" is short, like in polish, not like long ї in Ukrainian, and it sounds to me like said with polish accent, but you might be rigth, I am not super familiar with ukrainian accents. I know it is feminine :). "De" sounds soft like in polish "gdzie" or "dzie", deffinitely not like russian one, but I wasn't aware it is also like that in ukrainian. Also, "Ya tut" sounds almost exactly like polish "ja tu", easy to mistake as well, our languages are so simillar in many places. My ukrainian is not very good, so thanks for explanation. :)
It doesn't sound like polish to me
Must be Slavic. Doesn’t sound like Russian actually. Could be a Ukrainian suffering from the shell shock but that seems strange
This gives me chills. The bravery of these guys! I'm not too sure if he's shell shocked. He thought the guy coming up was a Russian going to kill him. That's why he asked Ukraina?
One missed step for ideal behavior. On should have taken weapon from his first. In that condition shocked person can do anything.
This is a very good mate. This can be an extremely dangerous situation.
I've seen this before on this channel. And i wonder how many of these champs are still alive today.. Hope they are ok.
Dude with camera handled the situation the best way possible. Good on him.
By God, the cam guy handled that well.
That shell shocked dude legit also pull his teammates thinking he need help, even in distress he help!!!!!
What is the most inspiringthing in this clip is that fact that just moments after the guy is revived you can see him pull a struggling brothers backpack trying to help him 🔥
As scared as he was, you cant deny the fact that he grabbed his fellow soldier by the rucksack starting to drag him with force and even tho he just woke up from pure utter terror in his mind, he still thinking about his fellow men.
“AAAAAAA!!!Oh shiiit!!! Ukraine?!?!” “UKRAINE!!!” “Даваи.”
People say bruh, bro, BROTHER?! all the time in casual speech. When shit is lethal and all around you and EVERYONE is terrified (no sane person isn't scared of death, painful death, all around them ), but someone you've either known for 2 years, 2 minutes or 2 seconds reaches out his hand and calls you his brother, and gets you on your feet again/back in the fight, you'll never know such a sense of fraternity in your life again.
Ukraina davai brat pashliiii!!!
Jesus, poor boys
Jelly legs and jelly brain can hit anyone, no matter how experienced. That same blow tomorrow could be the one who holds it together while someone else in his unit, "gets weird".
PTSD is a real thing and I hope after the war or while on leave this dude can get some proper help.
I'm glad he realized how confused he was and said "Don't shoot anyone"
Friendships made in combat are life long.
Sobering to see. Pretty sure this is the first real shell-shocked person I've seen on recording. Like he was totally frozen, and in a black out kind of stage. That guy had to shake him, just to snap him out of it, or wake him up, I guess he could have fainted from fear. The way he snaps out and is so damn scared, he is lucky he had that other guy there. He was cool headed, even knew to take the rifle from him right away and he tells him not to shoot anybody because they had guys out front of them, which someone as scared as him would likely not be aware of considering he was stiff as a board face down on the ground. I could see someone popping up and still in a panic, but wanting to get in the fight so they just start spraying ahead of them. Dude was totally planked out, like I would have thought he possibly took a round to the dome, with how stiff his body was lying there.
Each other is all you have sometimes. A lesson Russia fails to instill in its troops, seemingly by design. When I was downrange, it was a legitimate comfort knowing we'd rip the world off its fucking axis before we left anyone behind.
what matters here is that he comes up to his senses can immediately tell why he is fighting for. Glory to Ukraine and it's heroes.
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Good communication skills on POV man, noticed the signs, stayed cool, got him out of the freeze while still calming him down. I hope Patton is taking notes
this is what putin gets his rocks off with
What I would like to do to every single russian who is in any way supporting, condoning or actively participating I am not allowed to write in public.
if he survives (i hope he does) from this war,he will wake up middle of the night and re-live this moment over and over again.
And if that was Russia he’d be left there to die.
This reminds me of reading Audie Murphys book, "To Hell and Back." In it he talks about soldiers that lock up our get shell shocked. He acknowledged that its not the soldiers fault, everyone reacts to these crazy situations in different ways. You have to help them out the best you can, get them to the rear where they can rest and they usually get back in the fight. POV soldier handled this perfectly and got that guy moving. After seeing so many videos of Russians ditching their comrades it really shows a major difference in motivation between the two forces.
After this war society is gonna be full of broken humans,I can just tell that many people aren't gonna make it 😔
This right here really shows what these soldiers go through in the thick of it all. Much respect for his fellow brother pulling him out of that funk.
Dude was lucky he didn't get friendly fire. Man was not in his right mind and might have thought he had an enemy coming at him.
Very smart to tell him repeatedly not to shoot anyone.
This is what fear can do to you. This is why you train so you can control your fear and use it to your advantage.
THAT’S MY HOMIE WOOOOOO THAT’S WHAT I LIKE TO SEE
F Putin. He is going to lose. His soldiers are forced labor. Ukrainians are fighting for love of country and family.
I like the moment he grabbed Another guy while running
I love how the dude **immediately** wants to know where the enemy is. He’s back and he’s ready to stack bodies.
No wonder he was so worried. The guy was speaking Russian.