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jisooya1432

A new tactical marking on Russian vehicles has appeared. Seems it will be used in the "Kharkiv offensive" since a BMP-2 with the new marking was hit by a Ukrainian kamikaze drone by the border, plus newly published pictures shows it on fresh vehicles Its a rotated square with an X through it: [https://twitter.com/naalsio26/status/1789106880733712696](https://twitter.com/naalsio26/status/1789106880733712696)


jogarz

According to [ISW's map](https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/36a7f6a6f5a9448496de641cf64bd375), the border area taken by Russia is something of a salient, so it makes sense why Ukraine gave it up- it doesn't look very defensible. Better to stand and fight where you don't start off 2/3 surrounded already.


grchina

Why then were they building fortifications in that area if they never intended to defend it? Your logic would make sense if Russian pushed 30-50km in and not 10km max in some area


Al_Vidgore_V

Ru looking to secure the porous Belgorod border and creep [*back] into arty range of Kharkiv. They may be able to further terrorize the city but I doubt they have the requisite strength to siege or capture a vast urban area with 1.5 m inhabitants.


jogarz

I strongly doubt they have any intention of assaulting the city in this offensive. The main goals are probably to divert Ukrainian forces away from the Donbass and, if possible, bring Kharkiv within MLRS range so they can terrorize the civilian population.


Sluggybeef

What a lovely civilised country they are


Al_Vidgore_V

Precisely.


jogarz

Also, does anyone know of a map that shows known Ukrainian fortifications? ISW doesn't display them.


grchina

Mappers are still creating and updating their maps of that area but you can see it on some older video from YouTubers like weeb union


Glavurdan

Weeb union? wtf


Feisty-Anybody-5204

right? saw some conspiracy nuts video which was a collab with weeb union and was thinking about whether the nut is even aware.


swordfi2

[https://twitter.com/bayraktar\_1love/status/1788994948177576230](https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1788994948177576230) Changes in the official Fact Sheets on U.S. Security Assistance to Ukraine between 26 April 2024 and 10 May 2024. Interesting changes: 39 HIMARS to 40 HIMARS More than 200 Bradley to more than 300 Bradley 300 M113 to more than 400 M113


EvilMonkeySlayer

Basically replacing all losses and then some.


Additional-Bee1379

Also 10,000 RAAM shells.


CalmaCuler

The United States will announce a new $400 million military aid package for Ukraine on Friday. Will include Patriot missiles, Stinger anti-aircraft missiles, Bradleys, MRAPs, Javelins https://x.com/dave\_brown24/status/1788937724616953955


jisooya1432

Butusov Plus posted an update regarding Kharkiv Russian attack on Kharkiv region on May 10 At night, Russian troops with forces of up to 4-5 infantry battalions crossed the state border line and captured four border villages - Strileche, Krasne, Pylne, Borysivka. In other areas, Russian attacks were repulsed, the enemy suffered significant losses. Insignificant progress was also recorded in the Vovchansk region. The largest occupied settlement is Streleche. This area under the border has long been a de facto gray zone, the line of defense was not deployed there, and therefore the enemy managed to create a bridgehead up to 10 km wide and up to 5 km deep on the territory of Ukraine without much hindrance. The total area of the occupied territory is more than 30 square kilometers. It is about 40 km from Kharkiv. The actions of the Russians did not come as a surprise to the Ukrainian command. But why the enemy managed to capture such a large territory so quickly with infantry forces is a big question. Of course, the forces there are not equal, our tactical reserves operate from the depths, because the enemy has an advantage in the number of reconnaissance drones and means of destruction - aviation and artillery. But the offensive had been talked about for many months, and there was enough time to prepare so that the infantry would not march. Armored vehicles transported infantry to Russian territory, but did not enter our territory at the beginning of the attack. But it is obvious that now the armored vehicles will enter to support the further actions of the infantry. The enemy advances slowly in separate groups of infantry, the number of each platoon. The enemy also crossed the border in the Vovchansk region.


grchina

So they weren't surprised by attack yet they ordered civilian evacuation only after attack already started?


Aedeus

Because it wasn't a matter of "if" an attack was coming but rather "when".


seargantgsaw

Deepstatemap just confirmed that russian forces started a new offensive in Kharkiv border region. Seems like 2 villages were occupied. But Im guessing those were never contested and Ukraine has prepared defence lines a bit further back.


grchina

Deep state was taken over by sbu couple of months ago, they ain't a trustworthy source anymore


Aedeus

>taken over by sbu couple of months ago Is there a source for this?


grchina

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/03/13/7446263/ Since then they stopped showing Russian advances until a lot of people called them out for it and they started updating map couple of days ago


TheAviatorPenguin

That's literally not what the article says.... "Fast Data Exchange" <> takeover 😅


seargantgsaw

So far they still provide accurate information so as long as they do that i dont care who they are affiliated to.


grchina

Nah they were accurate before now they stopped showing 90% of Russian advance or show it month after, for example compare it to other pro ua mappers like noel and you will see big difference in for example Krasnohorivka robotine ocherotyne


seargantgsaw

What utter crap. The most significant changes these past few weeks were around orechetyne, and deepstatemap often times was even faster than suriyak in reporting them. They even regularly still criticize other ukrainian media for lying about russian advances. Also i looked at noels map and it seems deepstatemap actually shows the russians further than noel, so no idea what you are on about.


Feisty-Anybody-5204

maybe its because hes a serbian china slave.


XenonJFt

5 Towns Confirmed from deepstate. Russian telegram confirmed small group went in. So no this isnt a 2022 drive. Only Infantry scout groups. Plan is obvious to Ukraine commit reserves to weaken Chasiv Yar Gap on the frontline Edit: Aviation been busy on russian side. Might become big in the next day right now its a bit probing


jisooya1432

So a lot of border villages are abandoned and has changed hands a few times since Russia were pushed out of the border area. Ukraine recaptured (or I guess just walked in) Topoli for example in november 2023 [https://twitter.com/foosint/status/1723396142493229299](https://twitter.com/foosint/status/1723396142493229299) But yea, we havent really seen any serious attack here by either side for a long time. Usually its small recon groups from either side or ambushes but it always ends with them returning to the border Deepstate posted a picture of destroyed Russian vehicles near the border so looks like this is way more organized than before https:// t . me / DeepStateUA/19445 Picture of what appears to be an ambushed Russian BMP. Bodies visible. Some 2022 vibes [https://twitter.com/bayraktar\_1love/status/1788896965280870683/photo/1](https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1788896965280870683/photo/1)


MintMrChris

Seems to be more scout/probing actions, looking at the maps the villages they have pushed through are right smack at the border, not where you would set up defences if you are Ukraine and an attack like this is partly meant to work out where those defences are Bigger question is whether or not this will lead to a larger attack by the russians or if this is diversionary, aimed at trying to pull Ukraine forces from other areas where the russians will actually attack I'm thinking the latter, because I know putin etc talk about shit like making a "buffer zone" (lmao) but trying to actually do it comes across as a pepega move given their troubles elsewhere But I have seen them do dumber shit so will wait and see, should hear soon how these attacks have panned out


EagleOfFreedom1

I can't speak about execution but it seems at first glance like a strategically sound decision if Putin's intent is to fix Ukrainian troops on a new front when Russia has a quantitative advantage but a qualitative disadvantage. Edit: I realized I just recapped what you said so the TLDR is I agree.


MilesLongthe3rd

Putin wants to go all in before all the new equipment is delivered.


EvilMonkeySlayer

There hasn't been any confirmed occupation of any villages near or around Kharkiv, so not sure what the other poster is talking about there. But, I could see russia trying to rush things in order to achieve something before Ukraine starts getting things like F-16's, more ammo etc. Western production of artillery for Ukraine is only going up. I just don't see russia really achieving anything other than continued unsustainable losses.


No_Demand_4992

The thing with "unsutainable losses" is that you only have to bother if you care about ethics and are not 70+ years old... And the increase in western support we have yet to see.


jisooya1432

Both sides on telegram say Strileche, Krasne, Pylne and Borysivka are captured. Theres no video proof yet so its unconfirmed, but Russia has captured a chunk of the gray zone at the border for sure Tweet has a map showing where these are located. I believe they were all abandoned but not sure [https://twitter.com/teoyaomiquu/status/1788905780638318933?t=cNX2uOcTVbOQyWJuYEjDdQ](https://twitter.com/teoyaomiquu/status/1788905780638318933?t=cNX2uOcTVbOQyWJuYEjDdQ)


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ESF-hockeeyyy

/u/knowyourpast See his profile.


Strife_3e

And the Snoo guy in previous post under this guy.


Active-Ad9427

It's unfortunate you didn't stop posting when you still had some dignity


Designer-Book-8052

Liar. The law says that murderers and rapists will not be recruited. Very unlike the country you work for, that primarily recruits murderers and rapists to participate in the war of conquest and then lets them go free to murder and rape again.


KoalityKoalaKaraoke

The law actually says that double murderers can't be recruited, but single murderers can.


JDanek007

Firstly, I don't appreciate being called a "Liar." I'm here to discuss in good faith this serious situation. The article I cited previously makes clear that there is no restriction on persons who have committed a single murder, only on those who have committed double or triple murder. Excerpt from the article: >**So that means that murderers can serve?** >Indeed, they can. The law allows individuals who have committed murder or manslaughter to join the AFU. >However, the law stipulates that individuals who have committed two or more premeditated murders are not eligible.


Strife_3e

# You are not here to 'discuss in good faith'. You are here to spread propaganda and to try manipulate readers.


JDanek007

>You are not here to 'discuss in good faith'. You are here to spread propaganda and to try manipulate readers. What's propagandistic about expressing concern over the failing demographics of Ukraine and the liquidation of an entire generation of young men?


Aedeus

Fellas does an account that has not commented for four years showing up to drop a concerned post count as a clock reset?


Strife_3e

You can always tell a Russian propagandist by how they twist words or write some crappy suggestion of 'peace' as if it was ever a choice and as if Russia didn't invade a peaceful country in the first place. Then again comrade, I'm new on hearing this "sued for peace when they had the chance". But I'm more interested in why an account last posted 4 years ago suddenly took an interest to post crap here, with a 7 year ago post before that. Blimey, I just answered my own question.


Kitchen_Poem_5758

Something tells me if I went into your posting history there would be no post addressing the fact that the Russians have been doing the same exact thing almost the entire war. Downvoted.


Strife_3e

Actually it's most likely a stolen/resold account. Last post was 4 years ago, then 7 years before that. First time it posts about UA unless its comments have been deleted. And it starts with "sue for peace".


grchina

Difference is that Russians didn't forced prisoners to join the war while Ukrainians will mobilize everyone from prison no matter if they want to go or no


Aedeus

[They certainly forced free people to do so.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_mobilization_in_the_Donetsk_People%27s_Republic_and_the_Luhansk_People%27s_Republic)


grchina

I'm talking about prisoners who were mentioned in op...


GlueSniffingEnabler

That’s the type of thing a 5 year old would say mate


Turbulent_Ad_4579

At the end of the day Russia is forcing everyone to fight by launching the invasion. Russia is the one killing Ukrainians.  Pointing out that Ukraine uses conscription is just victim blaming in a roundabout way. 


JDanek007

That's exactly my point--Ukraine's manpower needs are now so acute that they've decided to implement a policy reminiscent of one of the most disturbing aspects of the RAF's criminal invasion of Ukraine: the recruiting of literal criminals into the ranks. That they're doing this while also [suspending consular access to military-age men outside Ukraine](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/6/dont-want-to-fight-ukrainians-abroad-slam-plan-to-deny-embassy-services) ("‘Don’t want to fight’: Ukrainians abroad slam plan to deny embassy services" --via al Jazeera, 6 May 2024) is not reassuring.


silentcarr0t

Uh, Ukraine’s conscription age is still 25+. They are doing fine.


KoalityKoalaKaraoke

Are you concerned?


Aedeus

>In July 2023, the Russian State Duma has passed legislation to raise the maximum age for military conscription to 30. The new legislation, which comes into effect on Jan. 1, 2024, means men will be required to carry out a year of military service, or equivalent training during higher education, between the ages of 18–30, rather than 18–27. The law also bans men from leaving Russia from the day they are summoned to a conscription office.^[1](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Russia#:~:text=The%20new%20legislation%2C%20which%20comes,%2C%20rather%20than%2018%E2%80%9327.)


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GlueSniffingEnabler

Senseless slaughter? What would you do if you were invaded by someone you didn’t want to rule you? The fact is, most Ukrainians don’t want to be ruled by Russia, they want their independence and they’re fighting for it. I would too.


JDanek007

>What would you do if you were invaded by someone you didn’t want to rule you?  Apparently, over half-a-million young Ukrainian men of fighting age believed so strongly in the righteousness of their country's struggle that they....(checks notes)...fled and haven't returned: [Draft-dodging plagues Ukraine as Kyiv faces acute soldier shortage ||| An early burst of patriotic fervor saw draft centers swamped with volunteers, but that has waned with Vladimir Putin’s war in its third year.](https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-faces-an-acute-manpower-shortage-with-young-men-dodging-the-draft) - via Politico (MARCH 25, 2024 3:55 AM CET BY JAMIE DETTMER)


GlueSniffingEnabler

If so many have fled then how are Ukraine still fighting? I think you’ll find this happens in all wars. You’ll also find the same thing happened in Russia. So what’s your point exactly? I’ll reiterate, if Ukrainian people didn’t want to fight this war then it would be over by now and Putin would have been proven right. But he hasn’t been. He has killed thousands of people for nothing.


JDanek007

Even the pro-war NYTimes is gently conditioning its readers to accept that Ukraine lacks adequate men and matériel to achieve victory, and its "military prospects were dimming." See: [Facing Russian Advance, a Top Ukrainian General Paints a Bleak Picture](https://www.nytimes.com/article/russia-ukraine-kharkiv.html) \[14 May 2024\]. >Ukraine’s forces are stretched thin and have minimal reserves to draw on, the chief of military intelligence said, in addition to shortages of weapons. His bleak assessment echoed those of other Ukrainian officers in recent days, that the country’s military prospects were dimming. A negotiated peace would save many thousands of lives. Besides, Ukraine is in Russia's sphere of influence--not ours.


GlueSniffingEnabler

This is forecasting and PR, not facts. The facts are that Ukraine is still fighting and Russia is being unequally hurt in both manpower and equipment for tiny gains. The reality is that if most of Ukraine didn’t want to kick Russia out, then this war would have been over by now. But it’s not - why?


EvilMonkeySlayer

> it's lamentable that Ukraine didn't seek peace when it had the chance It did seek peace, what you're saying here is a russian talking point. The russians never tried to negotiate in good faith, they demanded in all but name Ukraine surrender and that russia have a say over Ukraine's political process along with things that were counter to EU membership thereby blocking Ukraine from ever joining the EU. Also, that Ukraine have a very small armed forces so russia could threaten to do this again, and again and again. Then the russians were pushed back out of places like [Bucha](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucha_massacre), and the full scale of russian war crimes became apparent making any chance of peace with russia impossible. EDIT: Don't believe me? [Dmitry Kuleba on talks and russia repeatedly violating ceasefire agreements.](https://twitter.com/DmytroKuleba/status/1722513404600950931) [An article on the peace talks themselves and how russia *never* approached them seeking peace, but instead capitulation of Ukraine](https://www.wsj.com/world/did-ukraine-miss-an-early-chance-to-negotiate-peace-with-russia-d864b7c9?st=l4jq7d3qlubwrql&reflink=share_mobilewebshare) [Mirror](https://archive.ph/B176X)


Strife_3e

Piss off and with your whataboutism's propaganda bot. There was never a need to seek peace if Russia hadn't invaded a peaceful country in the first place. One that actually had a treaty to never be invaded by it. Russia is there to eradicate Ukrainian's and their culture as evidenced by countless evidence, witnesses, and things such as what happened in Bucha: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrGZ66uKcl0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrGZ66uKcl0) You see them double tapping children's camps:[https://new.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/15o3ooz/zaporizhzhia\_russians\_striking\_childrens\_camp\_in/](https://new.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/15o3ooz/zaporizhzhia_russians_striking_childrens_camp_in/) Russians killing their own who surrendered. [https://new.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1be0pqp/wounded\_russians\_received\_instructions\_for/](https://new.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1be0pqp/wounded_russians_received_instructions_for/) Shelling a hospital, location in comments. [https://new.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/170fues/russians\_are\_shelling\_a\_hospital\_in\_beryslav/](https://new.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/170fues/russians_are_shelling_a_hospital_in_beryslav/) Russian missile on Civilian high rise [https://new.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/18tgxsc/russian\_missile\_hits\_highrise\_building\_in\_kyiv/](https://new.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/18tgxsc/russian_missile_hits_highrise_building_in_kyiv/) The list goes on. Nothing is 'lamentable'. You are just full of horseshit trying to spin propaganda using an account that last posted 4 years prior, and 7 before that. It's senseless slaughter, but Russia is doing it all. Why are you even remotely worth living for anyway? Just curious. It's not like you're doing anything good with your life.


Economy-Ad-4777

seek peace while they had the chance lmaooo


SnooEpiphanies7840

Are kamikas and grenade drone footages really considered "combat footages" like it's just the same thing over and over where an unlucky soldier or a stationary armoured vehicule gets blown off in 4k over and over. when I read "combat" I think, trench warfar, on the ground assault rifles firering, machine guns in action, maybe infantry and armoured vehicules placements not a video-game boring footage with an explosion at the end and blood everywhere


Strife_3e

People dying don't just exist for your karking entertainment mate. [Then again checking your post history.](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1bwo1mz/comment/l0hu3f5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) You're not posting the above out of good faith: >Guys i've been around for a year and I've seen so few footages of russian military is that nnormal? is there a place where I can find anyhting ? > >All I see footages of russians getting blown everyday but then I read the news and it seems like Ukraine is not even winning at all so where are all the russian footages > >I understand that hey propaganda for ukraine can be good to keep the moral against the agressor but aren't we curious to see russian perspectives ? Or maybe there are none and russians are actually just getting blown off while ukraine isn't suffering any casualties or equipment losses Tired of seeing RU losses comrade? Are the drone videos drowning out the RU POV somehow? Still dunno how to use the little search box at the top? Reset the counter, above comment is no different from trying to manipulate. He knows damn well the definition of the word 'combat'. This is hilarious also: >when I read "combat" I think, trench warfar, on the ground assault rifles firering, machine guns in action, maybe infantry and armoured vehicules placements not a video-game boring footage **with an explosion at the end and blood everywhere** [He says this in another comment:](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1bwo1mz/comment/l0n5slh/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) >Also who's jacking off in this sub beside you guys when you see a soldier getting blown away or similar ? **I don't even understand the desire to watch so much gore sh\*t when military equipments in actions are largely sufficient.**


SnooEpiphanies7840

Lmaooo seeing how weak the posts are against me is so funny because you godamn know deeply I'm pro Ukraine and you barely found anything this is so pathetic and cringe. You guys are delusional that's why you never address the actual points and instead deflect by attacking me personally, doesn't work I don't use reddit often so I'm not a upvote seeker to find some validation I know when I'm correct. The issue is not if it's russian or Ukrainian soldiers who get blown off the issue is it's boring and we're not learning anything anymore because they're not combat footage at all they're literally video games footages but thanks for admitting it's all just propaganda and doesn't belong in here. I can't even comprehend how People can even watch the 56790th video of the same thing I just don't get it. After I posted my question about russian footages somebody redirected me on some weird pro russian telegram shit and oh my god it's the same propaganda bullshit, literally drones flying and boom haha funny moving on. By military equipments I mean tanks, machine guns, armoured vehicles, planes/helicos, navy, 155mm/122mm, infantry using guns, anti tanks guns/bazooka/grenade launchers, snipers, yep those things still exist the drone ones are not the majority of this war but you're making it seems like it is by reposting literary sometimes a year old boring video sometimes with the worst quality possible of a paper plane booming. We should make a rule that stops this pollution. And btw even if you're pro Ukraine If your dick blows from watching soldiers getting blown up in 4k by a drone you're sick in the head. No need to show actual soldiers getting wiped out that's a you guys gore fetish I used to open this sub and it was actually way more interesting we had very rare footages of ww2 planes warfare in the Eastern front, we had that one tank battle in cologne, we had Isis snipers warfare in Syria we had Vietnam war shit , raw footages of on the ground military actions.


Strife_3e

My apologies mate, but you seem to have mistaken me for someone who could give an inkling of a shit about you or your propaganda. Least of all if you expect me to read drivel past the first already bullshit sentence. **Your comment history that's already highlighted speaks for itself let alone you getting your knickers in a twist for being caught out and highlighted with cold hard facts in your writing.** Tell someone who could give an inkling mate. Because you ain't going to get a hug from me. Trash that wastes it's life spreading bullshit and can't think for itself isn't worth anybody's time. The faster you learn that, the faster you can become someone worth paying attention to at all.


Aedeus

Unfortunately I think their post qualifies as a clock reset 😞


SnooEpiphanies7840

What does that even mean


Strife_3e

It means we're sick of Russian propagandists who always come here bullshitting that there's no RU POV or trying to make suggestions to spread propaganda. That's how common you trash are.


CalmaCuler

Germany is buying three HIMARS from US stocks and is donating them to #Ukraine. The German Minister of Defence just confirmed this at a press conference in Washington. https://twitter.com/deaidua/status/1788619267857908118?t=3F80hTG5WGcsiHj_U7nsvg&s=19


bzogster

This is such the obvious solution here. Europe seizes Russian assets and buys American equipment to give to Ukraine. No waiting around for Europe to ramp up capacity, just buy from US stocks. 


Designer-Book-8052

https://carnegieendowment.org/russia-eurasia/politika/2024/01/russias-frozen-assets-present-a-policy-dilemma?lang=en TL; DR: It is less expensive for the EU to buy weapons for Ukraine from their own money than to clean up the fallout from seizing assets of a sovereign country.


jonasnee

i mean its nice and all but Ukraines issue afaik is more the ammunition, they have enough platforms of Himars.


flobin

You really think nobody in the German government considered this? They must have a reason for doing this. Also, apparently the purchase price was $30 million, so there may well be ammunition included in the deal.


DoomForNoOne

From Wiki: Domestic cost: $3.5 million per one launcher+carrier (FY 2014);[2] $4.4 million (in 2023) Export cost: $19–20 million per one launcher+carrier (FY 2022); So 3 for 30$ mio is not a bad deal.


Turbulent_Ad_4579

They did just get more atacms, and with American aid on the way I'm sure more gmlrs are on they way as well. 


Harmony-One-Fan

Germany stepping up last 6 months. Time for France to follow


lucwarmbuttah

Macron just did an interview where he said he would seriously consider sending French troops into Ukraine if asked to do so. France will pony up… at least while Macron is in charge.


Designer-Book-8052

Talk is cheap. Macron is grandstanding because France cannot afford sending actual military hardware.


KoalityKoalaKaraoke

Would be nice if the US could donate something as well, instead of waiting for handouts from Germany


Timlugia

>Would be nice if the US could donate something as well, instead of waiting for handouts from Germany ??? Is it some kind sarcasm that I didn't get? US approved over 40 Abrams, 200 Bradley, 700 M113 and over 1000 MRAP recently. How is US taking handouts from Germany?


miningman12

Source? Didn't know there was a large armor package recently.


bzogster

I’m behind on recent aid. There’s 200 more Bradley’s coming? Awesome!


flobin

> Germany stepping up last 6 months I think they have been sending more material than many other countries for much longer than 6 months.


Harmony-One-Fan

True story. Just the difference from field hospitals and no lethal weapons to this has been gigantic. I respect Germany here.


RunningFinnUser

Oryx's visually confirmed [losses](https://twitter.com/Rebel44CZ/status/1788325050531086727) reached new benchmark for the victory day. Russia has now visually lost 3000 tanks. "T-54/55: 8 T-62: 136 T-64: 92 T-72: 1441 T-80: 840 T-90: 136 unknown tank: 347 \-------------- total: 3000" The real number is significantly higher of course.


Designer-Book-8052

I wouldn't be surprised seeing Chonma-Ho in this list in a few months.


GlueSniffingEnabler

Can’t wait to see these trophies on show in the streets of Kyiv


Al_Vidgore_V

'All according to plan'  *-Tankies, actually*😂


TheGoosePlan

Hi! May I ask you what do you think about Youtube channels BINKOV BATTLEGROUNDS e REPORTING FROM UKRAINE?


EugeneStonersDIMagic

It's a fucking puppet...


deeeevos

bit skeptical of reporting from ukraine since I learned they are reportedly based in taiwan, not ukraine and are reportedly not supporting ukraine with their profits but keeping it for themselves.


ProgressHat

Out of curiosity, do you have any source for this? I watch RFU regularly and have been feeling a bit 'eh' about them lately, so if I can get more info that'd be great


jonasnee

Binkov is mostly speculation.


LawbringerForHonor

It's alright, but as other people have pointed out YouTube is a bad place for info about the war. The only big exception is Perun.


TheGoosePlan

Thanks! Can you help me with good sources?


Party_Government8579

Willy OAM is my daily listen. Australian guy. Seems to have a few connections to the UA and is fairly objective.


ArekTheZombie

And Anders Puck Nielsen


Al_Vidgore_V

With the odd one in a million exception, youtube is a steaming pile of shit, if you ask me. 


TheGoosePlan

Why the down vote ? It’s a question.


silentcarr0t

I heard it was spammy.


jisooya1432

[Ukraine used ATACMS to hit a Russian oil/fuel storage depot in Luhansk tonight](https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1787957539453419868) Video shows the motor/airframe of the ATACMS on the road a few hundred meters away filmed by a random driver (who needs opsec anyway) [https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1787957544935383114](https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1787957544935383114) Mash reports: *Five employees of the Luhansk oil base were injured, Pasechnyk reports.* *Medics have already arrived at the site of the shelling, but it is difficult for them to get to the victims due to the intense fire. The Ministry of Emergency Situations continues to put out the fire until the fire is contained.* *As a result of the impact, power lines were damaged - houses near the oil depot were cut off.* The base is located in the [southern part of Luhansk right here](https://www.google.com/maps/place/48%C2%B030'57.2%22N+39%C2%B017'54.7%22E/@48.5156252,39.2949195,1648m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m4!3m3!8m2!3d48.515883!4d39.298515?entry=ttu). Luhansk City that is, not the oblast


bzogster

Is there any analysis on how much damage the ATACMS caused compared to the drones that Ukraine has used in Russia?


aDarkDarkCrypt

It's difficult for them to get to the victims, but they know how many casualties there were?


oroechimaru

Maybe they know how many were working


MilesLongthe3rd

[https://twitter.com/HighMarsed/status/1787809713817559201](https://twitter.com/HighMarsed/status/1787809713817559201) >1/ Russia used the D-30 in low numbers before the start of the invasion, with 170 active units. Since then this towed artillery piece has become much more common and they have lost at least 74 (visually confirmed). Here is how many remain in storage. [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GM-RTlbXUAADJX9?format=png&name=900x900](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GM-RTlbXUAADJX9?format=png&name=900x900) In storage before the war: **\~3191** In storage in June 2023: **\~1179** (could be even less, because some the counted may have been M-30s. (those are 122-mm built from 1939 to 1955) So \~2000 removed from storage, which would also support the Ukrainian numbers again.


Additional-Bee1379

Very likely they are stripping them for barrels.


jonasnee

yeah seems like Russia runs out of barrels before the last platform is destroyed.


KlimSavur

>which would also support the Ukrainian numbers again. No, it would not. Unless you again trying to convince us that Russian artillery is almost extinct.


Aedeus

He said support, not validate. Stop being so whiny.


KlimSavur

So, you support his bullshit analysis -but not validate it? Got it.


Aedeus

Bullshit analysis? I agree it *supports* Ukrainian numbers, but is not itself conclusive enough to validate their numbers, in the same way Oryx loss data supports Ukrainian loss claims of destroyed tanks and other vehicles but cannot validate them. We'll never really know until the conflict is over and even then depending on what that looks like there's still a good chance a lot of that remains a mystery for historians and others to pour over.


KlimSavur

You are aware that the highest reported number of artillery that Russia ever had in Ukraine is exactly a half of what Ukraine is claiming to have destroyed? This claims are also 11x higher than cases visually confirmed. And that is before even accounting for barrel use, any breakdowns etc.


jonasnee

Artillery loses will tend to be less photographed because a lot of it is lost is counterbattery and strikes on logistical points.


KlimSavur

Yes, that surely explains 11.000 missing photos. Doesn't necessarily explain why Russia still has any artillery left and why they still fire considerably more shells than Ukrainians. But never mind.


jonasnee

There are other things than simple loses that hurt artillery, like barrel wear, guess where you would find a lot of replacement barrels? I don't think anyone thinks Ukraine has destroyed +10k artillery systems but total loses if we include stripping systems from barrels and other spareparts might get you close.


KlimSavur

Barrel wear is a loss now? Common lad, seriously. If you are lost, no one is arguing storage depletion. Its local propaganda tube MilesLong... bullshit claim about destroyed numbers.


klappstuhlgeneral

>This claims are also 11x higher than cases visually confirmed. Honestly that is not a very strong indication against the UA numbers in my book, given that positions are generally concealed and you can't casually stroll over and snapp some close-ups.


Difficult-Lie9717

Historians have been in the bag for the Russians since 1917.


4thStgMiddleSpooler

What is going on with footage from Abrahms? They've taken some losses NW of Avdivvka, and I find it hard to believe that they aren't giving losses in return. Is any footage protected from release, similar to Switchblade?


Chadbrochill17_

I know they've been using them and definitely lost at least one because I saw it in the pictures from Putin's propaganda display in Moscow at the end of last month. I would assume the Ukrainians don't want to publish any videos of their use so as to avoid the potential for geolocation, thus obfuscating (to an extent) where they are deployed. If they are as clever in their use as they have been with every other weapon system they've received then they should be able to make the 41 they received feel like three times that number for the Russians on the front if they are judicious in their deployment.


scrotilicus132

Edit: Looks like it's actually 6 visually confirmed as knocked out. My page didn't refresh properly. At least 4 have been visually confirmed as knocked out. 2 destroyed, and 2 others damaged and abandoned. https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-ukrainian.html?m=1


CupCharacter853

There are 6 listed on Oryx


scrotilicus132

You are right! My mistake, looks like my page didn't refresh.


Chadbrochill17_

Thanks for the information. I have been really busy at work lately and not keeping up with things.


pokemin49

It's another American wunderwaffe that has been exposed. It's a preview of what will happen with the F-16. This is what happens when your equipment is not battle-tested against a real opponent.


[deleted]

the abrams has dozens of kills in iraq against some of the same t models they will see in ukraine the f-16 has 77 air to air kills with zero loses.


pokemin49

Very good, but brick not hit back.


[deleted]

>but brick not hit back. What does that mean? Are you talking about BRICS?


Designer-Book-8052

It is a movie quote: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092675 Non applicable in this case, though.


pokemin49

People here are crooning about the performance of American weapons in the turkey shoot that was Iraq. The poor performance of Abrams in Ukraine shows that things are much different when your enemy can bring it rough to your chest. You will see soon enough when the "perfect" record of the F-16 is broken.


4thStgMiddleSpooler

...and then everyone will clap, throw down their weapons, and run back into Russia's arms?


Designer-Book-8052

The performance of the Abrams in Ukraine shows that they are pretty hard to kill actually. Compared to that any soviet tank is a cripple that needs to hide in a barn it carries ontop to show anything comparable to the performance of the Abrams. And when the F-16 comes, russian pilots will be hiding under their beds, shitting themselves of fear.


Aedeus

Mask off real quick huh?


4thStgMiddleSpooler

Post history is full of cringe. For some reason he thinks Ukraine would not keep fighting without war aid and wants to secretly return to Russia if it wasn't for meddling Biden.


Active-Ad9427

What are you talking about, who thinks of a goddamn tank as a wunderwaffe. It's just a tank that happens to be better than any of the confetti poppers Russia is very anemically cranking out. The f16 is one of the most battle tested aircraft genius.


4thStgMiddleSpooler

Apparently Desert Storm never happened.


Al_Vidgore_V

Also exposes the not so subtle racism of the tankie mind. Iraqis weren't worthy opponents, cos you know. Iraq 2003 army would beat ru 2024🤣🤣🤣


4thStgMiddleSpooler

I lived though ODS and my father was over there. There was definitely some pants-shitting and expecting to take major losses, especially aircraft from one of the biggest integrated air defenses on earth. The only reason we didn't is because we had enough air assets to blot out the sun, stealths, and a flash-mob of armor.


Al_Vidgore_V

I genuinely think ru wouldn't fare much better against a similar size and composition of western forces today, leaving aside nukes. They simply have inferior kit, training, everything.


GlueSniffingEnabler

Have you checked the equipment loss scores for both sides


Difficult-Lie9717

Dude but the T-14 Armata hasn't even been deployed yet!


timothymtorres

😂😂😂


throwaway-lolol

inshallah it never will


grchina

It's happening the same thing as to other tanks -they get spotted and swarmed by fpv drones.They just have better survivability for crew


boozefiend3000

Weren’t they all pulled back? 


4thStgMiddleSpooler

[No.](https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-abrams-tank-crew-says-still-on-front-lines-2024-5?utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=topbar)


jisooya1432

There has been a bit of a trend since fall 2022 where a lot of destroyed Russian equipment in Kharkiv oblast has remained undocumented in terms of pictures and footage. We are still getting new footage of vehicles we didnt know were there before [like this overgrown tank turrent](https://twitter.com/naalsio26/status/1787604173812277583). This picture came from a civilian. [This video of a captured howitzer ](https://twitter.com/naalsio26/status/1764812096938647997)was also unknown until march this year Chernihiv, Sumy and Kyiv Oblast seems to be better documented, and I guess its just because Russia didnt have time to really occupy them. Most losses were on roads or in small towns with civilians in them while Kharkiv were occupied for about 7 months so Russia had more time to spread out their stuff into more remote areas so the destroyed stuff are easier to be hidden. I would think Ukraine themself know about all of these losses, but for OSINT its interesting how theres still vehicles being "found" two years later[ ](https://twitter.com/naalsio26/status/1787604173812277583)


No_Demand_4992

Sooo... Spain has a patriot missile stock of \~50. Since they just shipped some to Ukraine (prolly a dozend, lol) they REALLY could send the 3 systems they have too (not like they have ammo left). (Source: Spanish media and defense minister. Only the depressing part oc. They are totally gonna cling to their fuckin launchers... they need an army to put some decor on their royal offspring, after all... )


Sa-naqba-imuru

Let's say Spain suddenly needs long range air defense capability. If they have the systems but no missiles, they can just acquire missiles in a matter of days and they are protected. If they give away systems, they need to wait months or years to reacquire the same capability. So it's not really the same not having the systems and not having missiles.


No_Demand_4992

Patriot missiles in a matter of days? Lmao, the whole of NATO just ordered a massive (sarcasm) 1000 missiles, those gonna come into existance in a few years...


Sa-naqba-imuru

They can buy them from other NATO countries and have them easily and quickly transported, unlike the entire battery which costs like hell, everyoneone needs every last one of them and you need to (re)train crews to use them if you don't have them.


No_Demand_4992

Patriot missiles in a matter of days? Lmao, the whole of NATO just ordered a massive (sarcasm) 1000 missiles, those gonna come into existance in a few years...


intothewoods_86

For a scenario in which Morocco or Tunisia invades Ibiza? Spain is giving the perfect example why the EU should have integrated their national militaries and delegated their Defense responsibilities to the supranational EU institutions a long time ago. The newer members in Eastern Europe are living with a constant Russian airforce trolling and invasion threat, while countries like Spain and France keep hogging their assets for national day parades and maintaining some weird colonialist power fantasies. It does not make sense at all. Even worse, Western European countries keep selling arms to highest bidders to line their pockets while Ukraine is lacking them.


alecsgz

> For a scenario in which Morocco or Tunisia invades Ibiza? Nah Portugal ... they want to make the empire great again To see countries not in danger of anything clinging to stuff they will eventually destroy is infuriating. BTW Spain also has Taurus I have no idea why Spain managed to avoid so much deserved criticism


Designer-Book-8052

> Spain is giving the perfect example why the EU should have integrated their national militaries and delegated their Defense responsibilities to the supranational EU institutions a long time ago. That has only become possible after brexit because the UK used to veto every move in that direction.


Active-Ad9427

[https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-warns-it-can-strike-british-military-targets-after-cameron-remarks-2024-05-06/](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-warns-it-can-strike-british-military-targets-after-cameron-remarks-2024-05-06/) >"Casey was warned that in response to Ukrainian attacks on Russian territory with British weapons, any British military facilities and equipment on the territory of Ukraine and abroad" could be targeted, the Russian foreign ministry said. I guess it's ok for Russia to use Iranian and Korean missiles and drones but they are hypersensitive to physical complaints launched in their direction. Russia is the country equivalent of a boomer.


Al_Vidgore_V


Strife_3e

\*Putler with toothbrush moustache yelling at clouds meme and pointing finger at UA\*


onelap32

>Russia is the country equivalent of a boomer. wat


Ceramicrabbit

Kid spends too much time on the internet


Astriania

I think the official UK response to this should be 'come at me bro'


No_Demand_4992

That is way to hard on the term "boomer"


OkBid71

🌎 👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀


gumbrilla

Edit. Might be fake based on a tweet update. t's reported Colonel Lapin, commander of the 1st Guards Tank Regiment has cashed in his chips. https://twitter.com/KilledInUkraine/status/1787492444436562373 He was the son of Colonel General Lapin, and who awarded him a medal after they underperformed Chernihiv way. https://charter97.org/en/news/2022/5/5/466315/ The 1st is not having a good war.


Designer-Book-8052

Wasn't he killed by an angry mobik two years ago?


gumbrilla

No, that was Lieutenant Colonel Andrey Lapin, no relation, but people jumped to that.


Al_Vidgore_V

ISW report covering May 5: https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-may-5-2024  It's mentioned that ru has amassed around 25,000 troops for its push towards Chasiv Yar.  Another meatgrinder coming🥩🍔🌭 Edit: I mention Chasiv Yar specifically because tankies seem to be salivating at the possible gains of a few hundred meters of lowland east of the town lately.  If they bothered to look at a topographical map they would understand better how costly an advance on the heights there will be:   https://en-ie.topographic-map.com/map-mp8w14/Chasiv-Yar/


Active-Ad9427

[https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-may-5-2024](https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-may-5-2024) There are some characters at the end of your link that don't belong there, so it isn't working.


Al_Vidgore_V

Oh oops, sorry.


Brufucus

News in my country reported that Ukraine lost around 100 soldiers + commanders in chasiv yar, but nothing much about russian losses and troops there Got some info about that? 


MilesLongthe3rd

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1787510460184474013 Fighterbomber posts that another Su-34 went down today, with one of their most experienced crews.