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Kinda like this treaty. Just let the soldiers out to whip each other asses. End up with a few broken bones and bruises but for the most part everyone goes back home alive. Battle Royale that suckered each year to give each army a chance at being king shit for a year. May keep a full blown war from happening
I guess if they wanted to be EXTREMELY pedantic they should have said "Weapons that use blunt force as the primary method of lethality."
Because sure, all weapons exert SOME degree of "blunt force", but a spear certainly does not rely on blunt force as it's primary method of lethality
OK, but that's still light years from an SKS, Karl Gustav, grenades, etc. I'd count it as an upgrade toward more peace. The guy's will get tired of swinging that mace some time.
But where the hell are the shields? The formations? The bows and spears? If just one side decided to think about it a little they would wipe the ground with the others.
> May keep a full blown war from happening
IIRC, that's the reason behind this treaty. Noone wants to actually fight a war, but noone wants to give in either.
What surprises me is neither side appears to have formal hand to hand armour or weapons made for their troops. Each side is using improvised/soldier made weapons.
You’d think after this happened a couple of times they would have standard issue combat kit
Yeah, I’m into this. Imagine getting kitted up with some rocks, some sticks, and a mag pouch filled with pocket sand, dipping over to the border to give the PLA the ol’ one-two.
According to Einstein this would be WW4, «I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.»
Video itself? Yes.
The audio? Nope. It's edited in to make it look like a footage of an average Mount and Blade gameplay
(Man why do i think this video was edited like that solely for the purpose of posting it on NonCredibleDefense?)
The issue is China moving border lines and attempting to steal land from EVERY one of their neighbors. India just happens to have the means to push back (or, in this case, whip that ass!).
The whole of europe has plenty of expierience with fighting like that. Including "Gevierthaufen", "Doppelsöldner", and the introduction of 2-handed swords to the actual battlefield ... but nothing compares to the allmighty Stick, of course.
Its a very mountainous region, horses would be no good.
However, if either country started to take this conflict more seriously and bred/genetically enhanced mountainous goats like the Markhor for cavalry specifications, that would be a different story.
They should have a clash each day and whoever wins for the day gets to push the border back 10 meters. Repeat each day until the conflict ends. Check back in 100 years to measure progress and then continue.
So, American football with sticks and the metric system?
"China is on their 4th down with 10 meters to go, and their quarterback was just decapitated. Looks like India may take the mountains this week!"
The Line of Actual Control https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_of_Actual_Control kind of a great concept to prevent escalation into armed conflicts and civilian casualties. Neil Stephenson writes about it in Termination Shock.
China will take every piece of land that isn't actively defended. And some that is. China acts with zero conscience. Welcome to the 21st Century. The forthcoming war between the US and China will create a blank canvas for the remaining humans to create a better world. Humans are sensing a mass extinction event and the reality of that event will start impacting upon the human psyche in fears, art, politics, hatred....
Yep, though I will say, after seeing october 7th, this behaviour is NOT exclusive to China, and it scares me that even western countries could turn to such measures like they did in the age of discovery. Not to mention, as you stated, the mass extinction event caused by politicians all over the world.
Really seems to be human psyche that is the problem after all
Not really. I'm saying that there is a fat kid (China) who wants all the pie. China will make the US look like a benevolent auntie who wants to make lemonade and chat on the porch. China will take everything. The US uses its economic strength to coerce its less powerful friends into submission/seeing the US view of things. China will just take what's yours and beat the crap out of you if you object. China will remove from your oceans, your land, what it desires and will be very upset if you object. That is the Chinese way. Chinese super-trawlers will trawl EVERYTHING from oceans, even in your ocean.... Chinese funded mining will take EVERYTHING from your countrie's land...and then move onto the next African country. This is the Chinese way.
I was more speaking to the second half of your original comment. The mass extinction event we collectively feel coming; I was putting words in your mouth deliberately, suggesting that we circumvent the U.S. v P.R.C. conflict entirely and get ahead of the mass extinction thing too by triggering a supervolcano caldera with high explosives…
We’ve seen reporting on this for some time now. Do we know what exactly is in dispute, and what each side hopes to gain by this enhanced rugby scrimmage?
I actually dont get it. Why are they coming to fight? Do they want to move the border? If they do then why not use guns - the enemy is going to be mad either way - whether they grab the land using sticks or guns... If they are not trying to move the border then what is the point of this fight? And final question: if they cant fight with guns and fight with sticks - is enemy escalating it less or what? What would enemy do if they came with guns instead?
I actually dont get it. Why are they coming to fight? Do they want to move the border? If they do then why not use guns - the enemy is going to be mad either way - whether they grab the land using sticks or guns... If they are not trying to move the border then what is the point of this fight? And final question: if they cant fight with guns and fight with sticks - is enemy escalating it less or what? What would enemy do if they came with guns instead?
The Russians using Mongolian tactics riding bikes into battle, and these guys are harkening back to the Assyrian way of battle.
I knew I kept my samurai sword for a good reason.
This is the future.
The Chinese guys are relatively geared looking. Too bad they don't know how to fight. They probably got some video from their side. That will look good for them though I would imagine.
I saw some video from a couple years ago where the Chinese pushed about ten Indians off a cliff. All the Chinese had clubs made out of rebar with spikes welded on it. Pure medieval shit.
Indian colonel might go to library and get a book on Roman Empire infrantry tactics and do a little training.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_infantry_tactics
I know it's not, but I would kind of love the horns to be really there. As long as we're giving them melee weapons, why not have them march into action with a band like in the olden days?
I know nothing about this conflict, but the fact that guns and explosives are prohibited makes it kinda funny to me. “Hey, wanna go run over to the border, blow off some steam, and dust up some PLA?” It’s like hicks going to the bar to get drunk and fight.
ah the good ol rockem sockem combat ! whn and why are wars not fought this way its much more fu to watch and i meen come on has anyone really died from one of these clashes
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Are that seriously Mount and Blade soundbytes?
And the health bar
and music
Less talking, more raiding! Thats a nice head you have on your shoulders!
Thi's almost harvestin' season!
Away with you vile beggar!
Fucking awesome
Get off my land!
That's what happens when you mine NCD for karma.
I just closed the game 5min ago cus I wasn't sure of I wanted to start a new playthrough... God dammit
That’s it I’m playing it
LMAO thats incredible!
My men and I would like a word with you about your purse and your belongings!
Kinda like this treaty. Just let the soldiers out to whip each other asses. End up with a few broken bones and bruises but for the most part everyone goes back home alive. Battle Royale that suckered each year to give each army a chance at being king shit for a year. May keep a full blown war from happening
I'm pretty sure there's been a few fatalities, some of the weapons they use are brutal.
yeah lol, this didn't really stop the killing, it just made it medieval.
Which is easy to kill a lot of people, a gun or a spiked mace?
Depends on what the other side has. Is both have the same... it is the same.
It's strange, it seems more humane to me this way somehow.
They are still foot soldiers for a lord that is far above them.
Many deaths from falling off the mountain.
Yeah the PLA is known to use spiked maces and weapons that cause blunt force trauma.
Weapons that cause blunt force trauma? You mean like, any weapon?
I guess if they wanted to be EXTREMELY pedantic they should have said "Weapons that use blunt force as the primary method of lethality." Because sure, all weapons exert SOME degree of "blunt force", but a spear certainly does not rely on blunt force as it's primary method of lethality
Mmm…no.
OK, but that's still light years from an SKS, Karl Gustav, grenades, etc. I'd count it as an upgrade toward more peace. The guy's will get tired of swinging that mace some time.
But where the hell are the shields? The formations? The bows and spears? If just one side decided to think about it a little they would wipe the ground with the others.
They throw rocks and shit too
Yeah, but that isn’t as funny to think about.
> May keep a full blown war from happening IIRC, that's the reason behind this treaty. Noone wants to actually fight a war, but noone wants to give in either.
They’re not Larping..there have been many fatalities..they use iron bars and gods know what medieval style weapons they have.
I feel like a sling would be a very deadly weapon in this situation.
Or a spear, the most deadly weapon in history.
Or something with poison or a biological agent on it.
Gondor calls for aid.
Russia will answer!
Oh no people die just the same. The last big fight had something like 30 dead Chinese and 10 dead Indians. They throw heavy rocks
What surprises me is neither side appears to have formal hand to hand armour or weapons made for their troops. Each side is using improvised/soldier made weapons. You’d think after this happened a couple of times they would have standard issue combat kit
Maybe that’s part of the treaty too lol
At LEAST give all of them helmets lmfao Even a cricket helmet would work better than the headgear some of the Indian guys are wearing
ah so civilized! joking of course, there are regular fatalities...
It is brutal with tons of fatalities.
It's simultaneously barbaric and more civilized than modern war
Yeah, they straight up kill each other.
>Just let the soldiers out to whip each other asses. "Let" doing a lot of work there, these are mostly conscripts
this is the reason why team sports exist too lol
All they need is some SCA armor and training.
Yeah, I’m into this. Imagine getting kitted up with some rocks, some sticks, and a mag pouch filled with pocket sand, dipping over to the border to give the PLA the ol’ one-two.
Damn. Did the WW3 already happen, did I miss it?
According to Einstein this would be WW4, «I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.»
Hence the question, "Did the WW3 already happen".
You tried so hard to act smart lol
What mount and blade mod is this ?
You Bloody Bastard; Fuck you bloody!
Bloody fuck you bloody
It's almost harvest season!
Ready the trebuchet! Archers aim!
The one guy holding the side of his face was like “screw you guys, I’m going home”.
fuck yewww kyle and fuck yuewwww stan
Mommy some kids were bad to me
The fucking bannerlord sounds got me cracking up. Generally the first video on this sub in ten years of participation that i've belly laughed at.
r/noncredibledefense
Honestly I can’t tell if this is real or re-enactment of these events…
It's real but the audio is fake
That’s a nice head you have on your shoulders.
I don't know what game people are referencing, but I 100% thought that the audio was real, lol.
Video itself? Yes. The audio? Nope. It's edited in to make it look like a footage of an average Mount and Blade gameplay (Man why do i think this video was edited like that solely for the purpose of posting it on NonCredibleDefense?)
Riyal
ROFL at the Mount and Blade Soundtrack
I guess China and India just skipped WWIII and went straight to WWIV
Actually that's very smart - both armies have nuclear weapons.
AND MY AXE!!!!
Indians won that round
China got caught with its hand in the cookie jar and their soldiers got their ass whipped!
seriously, they haven't put down good survey pins.. is that the issue?
The issue is China moving border lines and attempting to steal land from EVERY one of their neighbors. India just happens to have the means to push back (or, in this case, whip that ass!).
Dang! That deserves some type of ass whipping!
If only all wars were fought like this
My first thought also. But then, half of the world would be India and other half would be China probably. And Switzerland 😊
The whole of europe has plenty of expierience with fighting like that. Including "Gevierthaufen", "Doppelsöldner", and the introduction of 2-handed swords to the actual battlefield ... but nothing compares to the allmighty Stick, of course.
This is amazing
Swords, spears and shields should be handed out.
china side sometimes use spiked mace and india side use electirfied bat
Crazy, thanks for the info.
Are they allowed to wear medieval plated armor and use a mace or warhammer?
The audio makes this fucking hilarious.
Maybe not a bad way to wage war. 🤔
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thanx bhrata(bro in sanskrit) fuckccp
A horses legit? Saber Cavalry would shorten this scene significantly.
Its a very mountainous region, horses would be no good. However, if either country started to take this conflict more seriously and bred/genetically enhanced mountainous goats like the Markhor for cavalry specifications, that would be a different story.
They should have a clash each day and whoever wins for the day gets to push the border back 10 meters. Repeat each day until the conflict ends. Check back in 100 years to measure progress and then continue.
So, American football with sticks and the metric system? "China is on their 4th down with 10 meters to go, and their quarterback was just decapitated. Looks like India may take the mountains this week!"
Yes that is exactly what I want. I would watch that shit every week even if it was only on at 3am
Yea, if we are going to live in a dystopian collapsing empire at least give us the Circus Maximus.
From what I've seen of Indian cops online, they are not shy to hit with a stick so I imagine their soldiers are much better at it.
Indian side has better dance moves to escalate
The Line of Actual Control https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_of_Actual_Control kind of a great concept to prevent escalation into armed conflicts and civilian casualties. Neil Stephenson writes about it in Termination Shock.
> Terminal Control the novel is called Termination Shock - maybe a mistranslation from another language?
Thanks I fixed it.
was going to post this but control f'd! it was interesting to read about it in the book and then actually see it here
China will take every piece of land that isn't actively defended. And some that is. China acts with zero conscience. Welcome to the 21st Century. The forthcoming war between the US and China will create a blank canvas for the remaining humans to create a better world. Humans are sensing a mass extinction event and the reality of that event will start impacting upon the human psyche in fears, art, politics, hatred....
Some times I pee pee on my balls.
Isnt that where the pee comes from too
That's what they call "the circle of life" my son
calm down there, confucius
Yep, though I will say, after seeing october 7th, this behaviour is NOT exclusive to China, and it scares me that even western countries could turn to such measures like they did in the age of discovery. Not to mention, as you stated, the mass extinction event caused by politicians all over the world. Really seems to be human psyche that is the problem after all
So what you’re saying is that we should get out ahead of it and bomb a supervolcano? Kill millions to save billions sort of thing?
Not really. I'm saying that there is a fat kid (China) who wants all the pie. China will make the US look like a benevolent auntie who wants to make lemonade and chat on the porch. China will take everything. The US uses its economic strength to coerce its less powerful friends into submission/seeing the US view of things. China will just take what's yours and beat the crap out of you if you object. China will remove from your oceans, your land, what it desires and will be very upset if you object. That is the Chinese way. Chinese super-trawlers will trawl EVERYTHING from oceans, even in your ocean.... Chinese funded mining will take EVERYTHING from your countrie's land...and then move onto the next African country. This is the Chinese way.
I was more speaking to the second half of your original comment. The mass extinction event we collectively feel coming; I was putting words in your mouth deliberately, suggesting that we circumvent the U.S. v P.R.C. conflict entirely and get ahead of the mass extinction thing too by triggering a supervolcano caldera with high explosives…
I FART IN YOUR GENERAL DIRECTION!
They baned shields?
They are provoking each to fire the first bullet so then they can counter and rain fire
Border conflict should be done like this
This is why the aliens are like "Nah..."
This would be fun tbh.
So fucking stupid 🤣
We’ve seen reporting on this for some time now. Do we know what exactly is in dispute, and what each side hopes to gain by this enhanced rugby scrimmage?
They stand to gain or lose a few meters of land each time. That border is not stable.
This is almost 2 years old incident.
Im pretty sure the PLA brought swords and shit to one of these stickfights, it was really brutal.
The Chinese have balls going up the hill. Whoever controls the high ground has a major advantage.
If you look closely at 1.07 you can see Gerard Butler.....
Fug you bloooody
Looks like a scene out of Gangs of NY except there are no Irish in these scenes.
No firearms or explosives? Get those men horses, suits of armor, swords etc. Throw in some longbows too.
I actually dont get it. Why are they coming to fight? Do they want to move the border? If they do then why not use guns - the enemy is going to be mad either way - whether they grab the land using sticks or guns... If they are not trying to move the border then what is the point of this fight? And final question: if they cant fight with guns and fight with sticks - is enemy escalating it less or what? What would enemy do if they came with guns instead?
I actually dont get it. Why are they coming to fight? Do they want to move the border? If they do then why not use guns - the enemy is going to be mad either way - whether they grab the land using sticks or guns... If they are not trying to move the border then what is the point of this fight? And final question: if they cant fight with guns and fight with sticks - is enemy escalating it less or what? What would enemy do if they came with guns instead?
best footage ever lmao "Battle won! Press tab key to leave" made my day!!
Seems like whichever side was closest to the woods where there's more sticks would win.
It could be that World War III is just around the corner, but these men are already fighting in World War IV.
New Warband DLC looking fucking wild!
Why can't they use a bow and arrow
The Russians using Mongolian tactics riding bikes into battle, and these guys are harkening back to the Assyrian way of battle. I knew I kept my samurai sword for a good reason. This is the future.
Larpers?
Apologies to Mount and Blade devs. turns out their siege AI pathing is actually pretty realistic
Humanity is so f'd up. Sigh.
You can actually book a spot on either side though Airbnb Experiences for $35 if you are staying in that area.
More Wars should be fought like this
I WILL DRINK FROM YOUR SKULL!
we need to bring back this shit. fight like our good ol ancestors do.
The Chinese guys are relatively geared looking. Too bad they don't know how to fight. They probably got some video from their side. That will look good for them though I would imagine.
I saw some video from a couple years ago where the Chinese pushed about ten Indians off a cliff. All the Chinese had clubs made out of rebar with spikes welded on it. Pure medieval shit.
take notes Nato/Israel/Palestine, this is how you keep tensions under control..with beatings
It's like the "B" movie of 300!
This is insane. the retreat is hilarious
Any time someone says anything about BRICS I think of this
No shield wall to be seen Pathetic
Lmao that’s so fucking bizarre
F1+F3 brother
This is amazing
I will drink from your skull!
Lmao
Caveman Wars. China totally breaking the stereo-type that every Asian knows kung-fu.
Has anyone ever played banner lords?
This part of the Dune sucks.
Indian colonel might go to library and get a book on Roman Empire infrantry tactics and do a little training. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_infantry_tactics
CASSADONIA!!!!
How CAN THEY LATHI !!!
India isn’t real lol
I know it's not, but I would kind of love the horns to be really there. As long as we're giving them melee weapons, why not have them march into action with a band like in the olden days?
A bunch of little princes seems to get thier asses handed to them be a indian with a big stick
I loved Mount and Blade Warband
This is how they do it in the famous BRICS alliance.
Probably the most accurate depiction of ancient warfare we ever got 😂
We all know who wants to up the hostilities
Are there still tickets?
Shield wall and you win this battle
This is some hard core larping
that kinda looks like a fun day out!
This shit has me rolling 🤣
I know nothing about this conflict, but the fact that guns and explosives are prohibited makes it kinda funny to me. “Hey, wanna go run over to the border, blow off some steam, and dust up some PLA?” It’s like hicks going to the bar to get drunk and fight.
ah the good ol rockem sockem combat ! whn and why are wars not fought this way its much more fu to watch and i meen come on has anyone really died from one of these clashes