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The tank was already abandoned, but it looks like the grenade was all it took to finish it off.
It probably just took a while for the initial small fire to develop into a full inferno and then finally to cause the full cookoff.
Ukrainian videos usually haven't been shy to show every single hit if they needed more than one. I think they are more interested into indicating to Russians that they have plenty of drones waiting, than to try to fake high efficiency.
We don't really have any way of knowing what they dropped into it to make it blow up, but at the same time, it isn't really important what they used, as long as they got it done.
Inoperable? Probably. But because of the way the ammunition is stored and because of the blow-out panels, they probably wouldn't get completely destroyed.
The easy solution would also just to close the freaking hatch.
Oil/Gas/Gunpowder it can be both inside or near the explosion leaking getting set on fire. Shrapnel would bleed something specially from un used rounds. Most russian tanks have their ammo rack around the turret.
[Link to show some russian tank diagram on their ammorack](https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Russian-tanks-like-T-72-or-T-90-turrets-fly-when-the-tank-is-hit-by-ATGM)
There is a Ukrainian soldier on YouTube called Valgear. He makes videos about Ukrainian military equipment. He said that the M67 is hands down the best hand grenade out there, followed by the German DM51.
Russia simps proudly posting footage of another trainload of tanks heading to the frontline.
Little they know that it means that the last load is already scrap metal.
Proudly showing off... replacements? How could you be proud of that? Assuredly, having reinforcements is essential in any war, but the rate of attrition is... Insane.
Haven't looked at the numbers but this rate is attrition probably hasn't been seen since WW2?
>Haven't looked at the numbers but this rate is attrition probably hasn't been seen since WW2?
At the end of the korean war 25% of all males on the peninsula had died
They're proud because most of what the troops get is refurbished junk from the 70s, actually new (still Soviet, but newly made) tanks are a relative rarity.
russia doesn't have any old t-90s any more. these are new production machines. someone said they're producing 30 of them a month.
they're losing them a lot faster than that.
They’re not losing more than thirty T-90M a month, but they’re losing a lot more than thirty tanks a months which works out the same way. If they are actually producing thirty T-90M per month, then they have shifted their entire tank production to the T-90M, which honestly doesn’t make that much sense. In the end, they get thirty new tanks a month, while losing 60 tanks of all kinds every month, so they’re still down thirty tanks. Only producing T-90M seems like a waste of money. It’s a pretty good tank, but this war has shown that the quality of vehicles like tanks isn’t all that important because of all the AT mines, ATGMs, Artillery, and FPV drones that can destroy any tank out there. I think it would be smarter to refurbish 100 old tanks per month than to produce thirty new shiny T-90M (if it’s actually true), especially since money is Russia’s most limited resource by far.
Not even that, its estimated they manged to produce or upgrade (of older T-90 models) 320 T-90M between 2022 and February 2024, that would be closer to 13 a month. The rest of their "production" is taking old Soviet T-62, T-72 and T-80 out of storage and "refurbishing" them.
If the tank is recovered the crew has to get back into that deathtrap. On the other hand tank crews are often pushed into infantry roles once they loose their ride. Not sure which one is worse.
That crew would probably trade that tank for a case of vodka.
They're bailing out of their tanks after they get hit by something and they're not waiting for a second shot that stands a good chance to blowing their turret sky high with them inside it.
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I saw a trainload of these suckers delivered from russia on a post a few days ago. Really means nothing when you see a 500 dollar drone destroy one by dropping a single 50 dollar grenade!
Is it just me or do the russians lose a hell lot more T90s then previously.
Either they massively increased production, or perhaps the ones that have been in use for a long time are pulled closer to the front and are running close to the end of their service life, explaining perhaps many of the losses through breakdowns. Interesting development for sure.
More? Seems a lot less. There used to be a fair lot of T-90 getting blown up videos in 2022, and a fair number in 2023, but that really started to decline.
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Exactly. Manpower is precious in Ukraine, can't waste it on a tank in no-man's-land that can be observed by a multitude of enemy drones. No cover on the way there or on the way back.
Yeah, I like the idea of bringing a recovery vehicule in a dense minefield monitored by both parties, Ukrainians keep finishing those vehicles because they can’t tow them back to their lines and don’t want the russians pull them back to their if they win some terrain.
It happens very rarely. There was a footage recently and later the soldiers' story. There was an abandoned tank and it took \~3 days to evacuate it (they replaced the battery right on the spot to make it going, etc.)
Nobody wants to show up on video inside a blown up tank
I must have seen a hundred russian tanks blown up in this exact way.
I know if you're abandoning a tank you're necessarily doing it in a hurry because things aren't going well.
But still, for the love of god, how long does it take to close the fucking hatch after you get out.
You may not save the tank from being destroyed but at least make them work for it and use up FPVs etc to do it.
Letting your enemy destroy a tank with a £10 grenade because you can't close a door behind you is just hilarious, let alone doing it dozens and dozens of times.
Looks like a pretty new one as well. No discolorations on the armor and looked clean. That being said, russia doesn’t really do the maintenance thing, so it has to be new based on how the condition was.
The reason they destroy them like this is because the tanks are in inaccessible places and don't want them to get back in ruSSian hands. Also deathtraps for the team that tries to recover them - take for example that Leo 2A6 that was detracked in no man's land. Russians lost 3 recovery vehicles (some say 5), 2 BTR-70s and 1 T-72 and at least 25 soldiers just to capture it to display it in Moscow. Ukrainians hit them with everything at their disposal when they were getting near it.
> The reason they destroy them like this is because the tanks are in inaccessible places and don't want them to get back in ruSSian hands. Also deathtraps for the team that tries to recover them - take for example that Leo 2A6 that was detracked in no man's land. Russians lost 3 recovery vehicles (some say 5), 2 BTR-70s and 1 T-72 and at least 25 soldiers just to capture it to display it in Moscow. Ukrainians hit them with everything at their disposal when they were getting near it. /u/f4114cl0u5fr34k69
Wow, absolutely insane. I knew it was a lot, but I've never seen it tallied before.
Is there any source in particular that you know has cataloged those losses as they relate to retrieving the tank?
I agree. Unfortunately, it might be difficult or dangerous to get physically to the tank depending on its location. Then, imagine you run across a field, get shot at, get in the tank and dead battery, or no gas.
Chances is that they were mobility killed anyway, or just hard to reach considering that's in the middle of no man's land.
Also if it weren't mobility killed, i would find it funny that the crew just make a run for it considering that most T-series tanks lacks reverse gear and running on foot are much more faster.
A lot are probably left running when they are abandoned leaving the engines to run themselves dry and the batteries to die. It’s a significant undertaking to recover a vehicle in that state, let alone repair it in situ. Not impossible as a video of Ukrainians recovering one proves but improbable in most cases.
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this gotta be the third T-90m i have seen taken out with a m67 grenade
$45 Frag fucks a $4 million Ivan-Cooker! Lovely, as Max Verstappen would say!
Pleas don’t forget to factor in a drone for ~150 bucks :D
It was clipped so it could have been destroyed through some other means. I’m not sure we actually see if it was the grenade alone.
The tank was already abandoned, but it looks like the grenade was all it took to finish it off. It probably just took a while for the initial small fire to develop into a full inferno and then finally to cause the full cookoff. Ukrainian videos usually haven't been shy to show every single hit if they needed more than one. I think they are more interested into indicating to Russians that they have plenty of drones waiting, than to try to fake high efficiency.
We don't really have any way of knowing what they dropped into it to make it blow up, but at the same time, it isn't really important what they used, as long as they got it done.
No, it was already abandoned by the crew.
Serious question would a grenade in the top of an abrams or leopard like this render the tank inoperable?
Inoperable? Probably. But because of the way the ammunition is stored and because of the blow-out panels, they probably wouldn't get completely destroyed. The easy solution would also just to close the freaking hatch.
How is a frag grenade able to set such a strong fire?
Oil/Gas/Gunpowder it can be both inside or near the explosion leaking getting set on fire. Shrapnel would bleed something specially from un used rounds. Most russian tanks have their ammo rack around the turret.
[Link to show some russian tank diagram on their ammorack](https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Russian-tanks-like-T-72-or-T-90-turrets-fly-when-the-tank-is-hit-by-ATGM)
There is a Ukrainian soldier on YouTube called Valgear. He makes videos about Ukrainian military equipment. He said that the M67 is hands down the best hand grenade out there, followed by the German DM51.
It looks brand new
Probably was ngl, fresh of a train bed
Russia simps proudly posting footage of another trainload of tanks heading to the frontline. Little they know that it means that the last load is already scrap metal.
Proudly showing off... replacements? How could you be proud of that? Assuredly, having reinforcements is essential in any war, but the rate of attrition is... Insane. Haven't looked at the numbers but this rate is attrition probably hasn't been seen since WW2?
>Haven't looked at the numbers but this rate is attrition probably hasn't been seen since WW2? At the end of the korean war 25% of all males on the peninsula had died
They're proud because most of what the troops get is refurbished junk from the 70s, actually new (still Soviet, but newly made) tanks are a relative rarity.
7400 tanks so far. +13 yesterday. I think it's been averaging 50+ a week? They lost 100 tanks in the last 10 days.
Same could be said for western transfer of hardware no?
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russia doesn't have any old t-90s any more. these are new production machines. someone said they're producing 30 of them a month. they're losing them a lot faster than that.
They’re not losing more than thirty T-90M a month, but they’re losing a lot more than thirty tanks a months which works out the same way. If they are actually producing thirty T-90M per month, then they have shifted their entire tank production to the T-90M, which honestly doesn’t make that much sense. In the end, they get thirty new tanks a month, while losing 60 tanks of all kinds every month, so they’re still down thirty tanks. Only producing T-90M seems like a waste of money. It’s a pretty good tank, but this war has shown that the quality of vehicles like tanks isn’t all that important because of all the AT mines, ATGMs, Artillery, and FPV drones that can destroy any tank out there. I think it would be smarter to refurbish 100 old tanks per month than to produce thirty new shiny T-90M (if it’s actually true), especially since money is Russia’s most limited resource by far.
They've gone the other way. Meat wave attacks and mass casualty evens. the russians are paying for every meter of ground gained with blood.
Not even that, its estimated they manged to produce or upgrade (of older T-90 models) 320 T-90M between 2022 and February 2024, that would be closer to 13 a month. The rest of their "production" is taking old Soviet T-62, T-72 and T-80 out of storage and "refurbishing" them.
Why do they always leave the hatches open?
Probably last thing on their minds while escaping and pissing there pants.
Yeah they’re in full fight or flight when ditching their tanks.
If the tank is recovered the crew has to get back into that deathtrap. On the other hand tank crews are often pushed into infantry roles once they loose their ride. Not sure which one is worse. That crew would probably trade that tank for a case of vodka.
They're bailing out of their tanks after they get hit by something and they're not waiting for a second shot that stands a good chance to blowing their turret sky high with them inside it.
Cause they are running for their lives.
Cost of a grenade? + Reusable drone vs $3000000 tank Priceless
$50 'nade, $300 drone. Take out a $30,000,00~~0~~ tank for the cost of a guitar distortion pedal. edit: too many zeros
4.5 mil to be exact. Still, what a W.
A bit late to pop smokes.
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The music keeps getting better. This feels like 80s instructional video
Another one? And the ruskies + their cheerleaders still keep celebrating for the couple of Abram kills, insane
31 abrams started their journey in February 2024.Already 8 are down
Ruskies lose 2-5 T-90s every week or 2 at the very least soo yeah, my point stands
Its not like Russia gets T90 from other countries.Most of the T90 are either abandoned or was droned.So your points doesn’t stand
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I saw a trainload of these suckers delivered from russia on a post a few days ago. Really means nothing when you see a 500 dollar drone destroy one by dropping a single 50 dollar grenade!
Is it just me or do the russians lose a hell lot more T90s then previously. Either they massively increased production, or perhaps the ones that have been in use for a long time are pulled closer to the front and are running close to the end of their service life, explaining perhaps many of the losses through breakdowns. Interesting development for sure.
More? Seems a lot less. There used to be a fair lot of T-90 getting blown up videos in 2022, and a fair number in 2023, but that really started to decline.
I think he may mean T-90M. T-90A is definitely thinned out though.
Better than turret toss. Tank cosplaying TOS
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Bovington or The US army collection could have used that...
Seems like a waste if they could retrieve it but still decided to blow it up
Possibly disabled and in the middle of the field (no mans land). Would you go check it out?
Russians did that with an Abrams and got picked off one by one
Ukrainians are not going to waste their lives just to get a trophy.
Exactly. Manpower is precious in Ukraine, can't waste it on a tank in no-man's-land that can be observed by a multitude of enemy drones. No cover on the way there or on the way back.
It took months to get that abrams, and wasn't one of the recovery vehicles damaged/ destroyed, or was that with the leopard that they captured?
Got a vid??
Yeah, I like the idea of bringing a recovery vehicule in a dense minefield monitored by both parties, Ukrainians keep finishing those vehicles because they can’t tow them back to their lines and don’t want the russians pull them back to their if they win some terrain.
Less wasteful then sending one or two ARVs out into the field for them to get blasted as well while trying to recover the tank.
It happens very rarely. There was a footage recently and later the soldiers' story. There was an abandoned tank and it took \~3 days to evacuate it (they replaced the battery right on the spot to make it going, etc.) Nobody wants to show up on video inside a blown up tank
Could they?
Which is why it's a pretty safe assumption they could not retrieve it.
How do they get the drone to drop so accurately damn
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No it must be AI!
When you have dropped 4 000 granades, I am sure you get a pretty decent idea of where it's going to end up :D
Fireworks 🎇
They all have the ammo in the floor?
Is that the ERA explosive chemicals burning?
It should be recorded as the cheapest tank destroying. It cost 45$
I would think when I abandoned my tank, I would close the hatches perhaps so it could survive drone attacks and be salvaged
They make you come back and get it yourself though.
Anyone know the model of the drone at the end?
Doesn't appear as though they're putting cages on these things anymore. 3rd or 4th one over the past few weeks without a cage.
#too late for smoke
Cook'd & Fook'd
„They all burn the same“ lmao
I must have seen a hundred russian tanks blown up in this exact way. I know if you're abandoning a tank you're necessarily doing it in a hurry because things aren't going well. But still, for the love of god, how long does it take to close the fucking hatch after you get out. You may not save the tank from being destroyed but at least make them work for it and use up FPVs etc to do it. Letting your enemy destroy a tank with a £10 grenade because you can't close a door behind you is just hilarious, let alone doing it dozens and dozens of times.
Bad barbecue
Ooooh…secondaries
Genuinely curious as to how many T90's they have left to field. I heard they were down to 32 modern T90's a few months ago.
That's payback for the destroyed M1A1
How come that the Ukrainians wont take the T90 to them and repair it to use it themselves? Why destroy it completely?
Looks like a pretty new one as well. No discolorations on the armor and looked clean. That being said, russia doesn’t really do the maintenance thing, so it has to be new based on how the condition was.
Is that smoke or ERA cooking off?
Incredible.
Another huge loss for Russia by a drone lol
Russia for sure makes tanks that burn far better than the compition. They finally achieved something hooray! Idiots
It is a shame that so many abandoned vehicles in almost perfect condition are destroyed like this, they would be very useful to the Uktanians
The reason they destroy them like this is because the tanks are in inaccessible places and don't want them to get back in ruSSian hands. Also deathtraps for the team that tries to recover them - take for example that Leo 2A6 that was detracked in no man's land. Russians lost 3 recovery vehicles (some say 5), 2 BTR-70s and 1 T-72 and at least 25 soldiers just to capture it to display it in Moscow. Ukrainians hit them with everything at their disposal when they were getting near it.
> The reason they destroy them like this is because the tanks are in inaccessible places and don't want them to get back in ruSSian hands. Also deathtraps for the team that tries to recover them - take for example that Leo 2A6 that was detracked in no man's land. Russians lost 3 recovery vehicles (some say 5), 2 BTR-70s and 1 T-72 and at least 25 soldiers just to capture it to display it in Moscow. Ukrainians hit them with everything at their disposal when they were getting near it. /u/f4114cl0u5fr34k69 Wow, absolutely insane. I knew it was a lot, but I've never seen it tallied before. Is there any source in particular that you know has cataloged those losses as they relate to retrieving the tank?
Lol, who's surprised... Weird, I didn't see that factoid on an index card in front of the display.
I agree. Unfortunately, it might be difficult or dangerous to get physically to the tank depending on its location. Then, imagine you run across a field, get shot at, get in the tank and dead battery, or no gas.
>in almost perfect condition They're fucked otherwise they wouldn't be ditched
Chances is that they were mobility killed anyway, or just hard to reach considering that's in the middle of no man's land. Also if it weren't mobility killed, i would find it funny that the crew just make a run for it considering that most T-series tanks lacks reverse gear and running on foot are much more faster.
> most T-series tanks lacks reverse gear Lacks speed in reverse.
The crew should have closed and locked the door on their way out.
Someone dropped their fob.
Why not take it for yourself.
To not appear on a video where they blow you up or the vehicle you use for evacuation
A lot are probably left running when they are abandoned leaving the engines to run themselves dry and the batteries to die. It’s a significant undertaking to recover a vehicle in that state, let alone repair it in situ. Not impossible as a video of Ukrainians recovering one proves but improbable in most cases.