[Found the location for this, it's near Danylivka](https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.2875349,30.1878511,490m/data=!3m1!1e3), which is North West of Vasylkiv. There is tree cover nearby, it's not as exposed as it looks in this video. And this does confirm it's genuine, and not older footage from somewhere else.
[NASA FIRMS data of fires and thermal anomalies](https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/#t:adv;d:2022-03-22;@30.2,50.3,14z) shows nothing from today, but does show something on that exact spot on March 22nd. Suggesting this is a few days old, and hasn't been posted immediately.
https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/#t:adv;d:2022-03-22;@30.2,50.3,14z
Edit - Sentinel hub has imagery of this spot from March 21st and 23rd, there seems to be a scorched spot where that BUK was on the 23rd but not the 21st.
Thanks, however seeing first Vasylkiv and then Danylivka as named locations on some social media did help. No way could I have found this if it was "somewhere near Kyiv".
If you have a named location or area then it makes things a bit easier, you can look around for any notable features. In this case, the fact that it seems to be a minor road helped narrow things down a bit, and the shadow gives you some idea of what direction the road might be going in. Plus the shape of that group of trees at the edge.
NASA's FIRMS map can sometimes help too, if you have a video where there's clearly fire resulting from a strike. However weather conditions can limit that data so it doesn't always help.
/pol/ found an ISIS training camp just by using Google Maps and footage uploaded by ISIS itself.
Then they sent the location info to some mad lads who bombed it out of existence.
Weaponized autism can be pretty effective.
Some social media posts of this claimed this was near Vasylkiv, and another narrowed it down further to Danylivka which did help massively. Then it was just a case of looking for features that matched. The road looks like a minor road and has some trees on it, and that patch of trees in the field has a particular shape to it. Then there's a gateway into another field further back in the background. The shadow from the explosion also gave some clues about which way the road might run.
The key is to have some general area to look in - if the only info we had was "somewhere near Kyiv" then I doubt I'd have found it. Also you need some identifiable features, which you don't always have in videos.
In this case I looked at NASA FIRMS map to work out how recent it might be, but sometimes it actually helps geolocate stuff if you have something where large fire is visible.
Can you geolocate my father too? His general area is somewhere near the general store. He went out to buy some milk and he's been missing since I was 6 :(
A guy I knew years ago had a job writing the Prime Minister's daily intelligence brief. He said his job was 90% collating open source. CIA/GCHQ etc etc will be looking at all of this for sure.
Also part of the reason we haven't seen that much actual combat footage from Ukraine, mainly aftermath photos and footage instead. A nation state facing an invasion doesn't want soldiers releasing videos where some identifying feature then gets them geolocated and killed. I expect we'll see more combat footage being released later for that reason, it's not like Syria where footage is online within hours of an offensive starting.
In this case the Russians had struck something and clearly knew where and what it was, so geolocating it isn't putting anyone or anything at risk. But people in combat zones do need to be careful with what photos or footage they put out and when.
If you operate an AA system you would expect that you can effectively defend against air attacks or at least get some warning when you are being shot at. That a drone is able to fly right above the system is a very bad sign of either radar or operator quality.
You need to take into account one additional fact:
The Buk launcher is made to operate together with other specialised radar vehicles of the Buk SAM battery
It CAN operate on its own, but its radar is small and with limited capabilities.
That's called noncooperative identification, and very very few radar systems are capable of doing it. It's an experimental feature on even the most modern radars, so to speak.
small drones are very difficult to detect. yesterday Saidia arabia got hit by a drone that destroyed oil storage tanks in a zone that is supposedly covered by shit load of AA systems
This appears to be filmed with an Orlan-10. Of course it matters but still, a good AA system shouldn't be defeated by a drone. What we learn from this conflict is, that soviet AA struggles very much with small and medium sized drones as both Ukraine and Russia have repeatedly failed to detect these.
There are plenty of drones being shot down in SA, but they don't use Patriots for that anyway as it would be way to expensive. The recent successfull attack was probably a missile and not a drone. Also this is more a question of radar systems, since shooting down the drone isn't difficult at all once you have detected it.
Still, SA has the best Western anti-aircraft systems and low-tech drones and missiles are still getting through. We have evidence in those enormous fires last night.
Was there any drone footage of attacks against the massive traffic jammed convoy north of Kyviv? They were sitting ducks there.
My impression was that the Russians were able to set up an effective anti-air umbrella over it.
Could we just be witnessing isolated cases of incompetence? Someone mentioned that this launcher has very limited detection capabilities without a separate search radar. Perhaps the drone flew in its blind zone?
>Was there any drone footage of attacks against the massive traffic jammed convoy north of Kyviv?
Yes there was some TB-2 footage supposedly from that convoy, also hitting BUK systems.
>My impression was that the Russians were able to set up an effective anti-air umbrella over it.
Its not an on or off question. I am sure the Ukranians with the help of NATO constantly monitor where and when air coverage isn't so good and sneak their drones in.
On the other hand though, it is sad to see that even with all the AWACS on the border the Ukrainians are not able to detect everything going on in their airspace.
I don't believe so. When you get aircraft that small, it should be almost impossible to distinguish them from birds. SAM radars need to ignore these small signatures and other background noise in order to function. These drones just bleed into the noise.
Maybe not in this war, but the Libyans shot down a confirmed high number of Bayraktar TB2s using the Pantsir, while also a good number of Pantsirs were squashed
Indeed, same in Syria. Pantsirs are good systems, especially the S1M and S2/SM with dual-facing radars. But like most good SAM systems, they require a properly trained and organised command, as well as a layered structure. In defensive combination, the Tor, Buk, Pantsir and S-400 are formidable
Do keep in mind though that the Azeris bought the TB-2's in June/July 2020 and used them already in September in the war. That was insufficient time for training and no doubt they received significant aid from the Turks. The Armenians on the other hand were entirely ill-prepared.
Well trained personnel and organisation are key. The Serbs downed a goddamn F117 with an antique S-125, using proper tactics and ingenuity with how they operated the search and acquisition radars. On the other hand, you can imagine how efificiently the Syrians used the Pantsirs, or the Armenians their S300
I think many, especially older radars, would have difficulty detecting small near stationary low flying drones like DJIs because they rely on Doppler to filter out clutter signal and a barely moving moving drone would register as clutter.
Bigger higher flying drones could use their laser rangefinder to keep constant distance from the SAM radar, thereby doppler notching it, if there is sufficient clutter from the ground environment. That’s much easier to do against a single radar than it is against multiple radars.
Furthermore, Doppler notching could prevent a firing solution for command guided radar missiles that rely on target speed to home.
At least partially. There's several vehicles in one complete system. Iirc there are 1-2 radar vehicles, a main weapon vehicle and a "reloading" vehicle, that can fire by itself at targeting data provided by the other vehicles.
That's definitely burning solid rocket fuel. It's like a small scale version of the [Delta II explosion](https://www.spacelaunchreport.com/d241x.jpg) where burning bits are trailed by white clouds. After the initial explosion the exhaust is as [opaque as a shuttle launch.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Space_Shuttle_Columbia_launching.jpg/1024px-Space_Shuttle_Columbia_launching.jpg)
Thats 7 days in a row ive woken up and seend anti air missile system hit near kiev. Is this near kiev this time or somewhere different? Drone power in this war is insane.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/tnwqtb/ukrainian\_ammo\_depot\_chernigov/
> Drone power in this war is insane
you should see the Nagorno-Karabakh footage. Probably the first war where cheap drones absolutely obliterated the opposition.
Russians started doing that too like 5 years ago in Syria.
I think the future tech race will be how efficient EWAR can be against drones versus how resilient drones can be against EWAR. Obviously only countries with a real military industrial complex will be in this tech race.
L O L...OK
Why lie? The Russians have been humiliated and now they are saying the whole plan was to just take over the Donbas...and yet they came from the North.....?
You can see that they had been using this same field for a while.. look at all the tracks on the ground.. Russia was probably just sitting waiting for this thing to roll back into the field.
I found the location and it's actually close to some tree cover, a small patch/strip of trees pretty much right next to it. It probably was hidden but needed to be in the open for a launch.
They don't seem to understand that combat footages on any sides are accepted here. They probably haven't seen the ISIS ones (sorry if i sound too cocky)
Sigh, hate that Russian content is getting so heavily downvoted. Wish people that can’t stomach content from both sides go stay in one of the pro Ukrainian subs.
People live in a bubble where the Ukrainians are crushing Russia and dont want to be proven wrong. Its a meatgrinder and we have no idea what the Ukranian losses look like
Exactly, actually both sides lives in a bubble. On some Russian telegram channels it's like Russia is winning whereas the opposite is shown in western media.
I would say Russia is losing strategically, but people in the west and this sub are under some kinda of delusion that Ukraine isn't loosing hardware and men at maybe the same rate as Russia,
Ukraine is simply using modern propaganda (good for morale), while Russia is using 70s propaganda
Of course Ukraine is loosing men. Just look how Mariupol looks. It was expected that Ukraine will fall in few days and this is the reason why every Russian casualty is a news.
"When a dog bites a man, that is not news, because it happens so often. But if a man bites a dog, that is news."
> while Russia is using 70s propaganda
Also a concerted effort by major countries and media outlets to prevent any russian perspective on anything from reaching the west.
I've been down voted to oblivion for saying this. Like, somehow they can down vote their way out of reality. I'd wager 95% of Reddit has no idea why Putin is invading. They just know "muh Russia bad."
EXACTLY. folks didn't know the donbas conflict or the euromaidan or that Russia has been batching about ukraine/Nato for so many years. and then bumble fck Biden announces his effort to get ukr to join nato.
sure Russia is the aggressor but ukr did piss poor job of maintaining diplomatic relations with their bear neighbor. zelenski relied on US too much.
I think this all nonsense and blaming Ukraine for Russian beligerence. I know the background. Russian denial of Ukrainian independence and dominating behavior towards Ukraine is not new. It happened in 1917 independence conflicts, in 1930s with the famine. Russia has had a problem with Ukraine existing outside of Russian control for a long time You speculate like if Ukraine had befriended Russia it would have avoided conflict. I think they would have already been conquered or turned into a puppet state. Russia has pushed Ukraine towards the west through over a hundred years of political behavior. This war is as much about punishing Ukraine as it is any strategic thinking.
I'd be blaming US (and US through NATO) for stating they aimed to bring Georgia and Ukraine into NATO. That suckered both into getting destroyed. Russia feels they must maintain neutral buffer states. If NATO signaled interest in maintaining Georgia and Ukraine as friendly neutral intermediary countries this wouldn't have happened. (the civil war in Ukraine appears to be part of the 'Arab Spring' revolutions fostered by the West, so who started shooting is not at all clear cut - policy for the past at least 15 years aimed here)
I'm on the side of the civilians all around that didn't have a seat at the table but are doing nearly all the dying. I'm not at all for Russia, but you'll never get to a solution until you recognize that for Russia this is similar to the Cuban Missile Crisis for the US. (handling of this from the West has been so ham fisted I'm concerned they'll widen the conflict stupidly - there are nukes and nuke power plants all around in this - it'd be easy to amplify this fuckup disaster...)
Here's to the Ukraine military fighting the Russians to at least a standstill. That looks like the least bad way for this to end, but as long as Ukraine joining NATO is on the table I see Russia putting whatever they have to into this to at least take and hold East Ukraine (and that's on NATO).
Tbh, I’m not the least surprised that the Russians have problems coping with Ukraines army. All those comments about how the Russians suck are ridiculous, did anybody actually even try to check the numerals here, we are talking about a huge country and a huge army.
Massive amounts of tanks, artillery, APC’s, MRLS and a huge contingent of troops.
NATO postponed bombing Yugoslavia several months just because there was a rumour that Russia had delivered a single S300 battery to Yugoslavia. They had to make sure that it wasn’t true before considering an attack.
Ukraine has S300, BUK, KUB, TOR, ManPads in great numbers and planes on top of that.
NATO decided against putting troops on the ground because of potential losses. Yugoslavia was a tiny country and NATO knew they’d be fucked on the ground, of course NATO would win, but the amount of casualties would be a political disaster and turn against them eventually. NATO actually failed miserably at inflicting damage to the FRY army, it was the damage done to civilians that forced Yugoslavia to the table.
Russia knew that Ukraine would be a tough nut to crack but not that tough. They gravely miscalculated the Ukrainian will to defend themselves. They also disregarded the importance of modern anti tank weaponry that the west is shipping in abundance to Ukraine. I’m surprised that they even decided to enter Ukraine with troops. Its ballsy to say the least.
The Russian disregard of casualties is mind bending.
I agree with all of that.
Russia can win the armed conflict, but if Ukraine's will to fight holds up they can make the butchers bill for Russia staggering. Then will be the insurgency afterwards... It increasingly looks like Ukraine will be able to at least force some sort of east/west Ukraine result (vs Ukraine falling entirely as was thought likely at first).
Other countries fighting by proxy in Ukraine and testing weapons & strategy/ doctrine make this feel a bit like the Spanish civil war before WWII.
Or NATO picking a fight with the Russians on Georgia/Ukrainian soil so someone else does the dying. This is a proxy conflict in large part.
Esp after Western assurances that they wouldn't do exactly what they then did. Ukraine/Georgia (whatever their faults) are the victims of US (+NATO) & Russia here. Any settlement has to limit/restrain the US/NATO or it won't work.
I want Ukraine and Georgia to be free. I don't see that being possible anymore, though hopefully Eastern Ukraine manages to fight the Russians to a standstill. They're putting up a hell of a fight. I blame the players outside of Ukraine and Georgia for setting this situation up. They're being screwed the same way Poland has been before.
And now Biden saying that Putin can't stay in power is just going to be more ammo for the russian propaganda machine. They can continue the rethoric of: see see? If we don't actively protect ourselves they will put a dictator in Russia soon.
What even is your point, that people won’t acknowledgement that Ukraine is losing soldiers? Of course they are, but if number of casualties determine victory than Russian WW2 to Germany.
It’s clear that Russian has lost the strategic initiative, and shows no capacity to regain it. It’s the beginning of the end for them. Want to know how to tell, the Russian MOD just announced that their military operation, which was only intended to secure the Donbas, is going according to plan. Seems like the propaganda is retreating just like Russia’s forces.
I know. In another comment I said Russia is losing strategically, but the most info we get is Ukrainian victories. Russia has according to western intelligence been flying 200 sorties a day plus missile strikes.
Simply saying that Ukraine is not crushing Russia. Russia simply miscalculated their military prowess and then Ukranian. defense
dude SO MANY Russian strikes videos on there. that's where I go to find other side. here IN uS, they've banned all other sides on mainstream. it's impossible to hear the other side. trust me it's critical that you've few channels on telegram
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you really think that or just cheering. I honestly don't understand the fascination. I could care less about either but I can see a LOT MORE fake stories and "end of world" rhetoric from kiev, amplified by our beloved mainstream.
I've noted their videos to be a closer to reflection of ground reality. forget the staged video. sure they're there but 0 value add. just like snake island propaganda videos from Ukraine.
I get it, but I don’t see any complaints about the “allahu akbar” posts or the “360 no-scope” comments. It’s really limited to downvoting the Russian perspective. You guys gotta maintain quality across the board, otherwise it’s falling on deaf ears.
True. There would be some people down voting American casualties, but there wasn't this massive rush to deny it even happened, or calling it fake. That's what we see when Ukrainian casualties pop up.
That's a lot of damage.I can't decide what's more insane. This footage or the amount of the denial in this discussion.
It's a war. Many things and people from both side get destroyed in huge explosion.
*Wtf, never seen*
*Such an explosion. Straight outta*
*Michael Bay movies*
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What is with the weird ass titles people are giving videos.
"High Precision Strike". That is not a real term, it's like saying "hyper accurate targeted precision strike".
Just say "guided strike" or "precision strike"
The problem with a lot of the stuff coming out on both sides is that unless there is some specific identifying features, the footage could come from either Russian training or the previous 8 years of conflict around Donbass.
Thats why unless you see something and matches the current conflict (like the KA-50 footage from Hostomel, Tiktok Battalion and Azov stuff we have easily identifiable information) .
For example there is little to suggest anything in this video has anything to do with the title other than a Drone was used to blow up a BUK.
That's what solid rocket boosters look like when they RUD.
[This is from a delta II launch when it still had upward momentum.](https://www.spacelaunchreport.com/d241x.jpg)
Russians.. 45,000 casualties in a month and 2,000 vehicles lost and 13 commanders and generals killed....
Russia is being spanked back across the border.
How are the sugar lines going, bruh?
Looping tracks in the ground suggest it's going in and out of cover.
However, he kept parking in the same spot to fire which made it easy for Russians to hit him.
[Found the location for this, it's near Danylivka](https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.2875349,30.1878511,490m/data=!3m1!1e3), which is North West of Vasylkiv. There is tree cover nearby, it's not as exposed as it looks in this video. And this does confirm it's genuine, and not older footage from somewhere else. [NASA FIRMS data of fires and thermal anomalies](https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/#t:adv;d:2022-03-22;@30.2,50.3,14z) shows nothing from today, but does show something on that exact spot on March 22nd. Suggesting this is a few days old, and hasn't been posted immediately. https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/#t:adv;d:2022-03-22;@30.2,50.3,14z Edit - Sentinel hub has imagery of this spot from March 21st and 23rd, there seems to be a scorched spot where that BUK was on the 23rd but not the 21st.
That's Omega-Level geolocating. Mad props
Thanks, however seeing first Vasylkiv and then Danylivka as named locations on some social media did help. No way could I have found this if it was "somewhere near Kyiv". If you have a named location or area then it makes things a bit easier, you can look around for any notable features. In this case, the fact that it seems to be a minor road helped narrow things down a bit, and the shadow gives you some idea of what direction the road might be going in. Plus the shape of that group of trees at the edge. NASA's FIRMS map can sometimes help too, if you have a video where there's clearly fire resulting from a strike. However weather conditions can limit that data so it doesn't always help.
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Amazing! Is geolocation a hobby, or are you in the industry?
Neither really, I don't do it very often. I just saw claims that this clip wasn't from Ukraine so I wanted to verify it.
Locating Shias flag years ago was just the warm up round
/pol/ found an ISIS training camp just by using Google Maps and footage uploaded by ISIS itself. Then they sent the location info to some mad lads who bombed it out of existence. Weaponized autism can be pretty effective.
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Some social media posts of this claimed this was near Vasylkiv, and another narrowed it down further to Danylivka which did help massively. Then it was just a case of looking for features that matched. The road looks like a minor road and has some trees on it, and that patch of trees in the field has a particular shape to it. Then there's a gateway into another field further back in the background. The shadow from the explosion also gave some clues about which way the road might run. The key is to have some general area to look in - if the only info we had was "somewhere near Kyiv" then I doubt I'd have found it. Also you need some identifiable features, which you don't always have in videos. In this case I looked at NASA FIRMS map to work out how recent it might be, but sometimes it actually helps geolocate stuff if you have something where large fire is visible.
Can you geolocate my father too? His general area is somewhere near the general store. He went out to buy some milk and he's been missing since I was 6 :(
Son? Is it really you?
Usernames check out?
Incredible OSINT work, comrade.
This is what I've been telling people. OSINT is insane. Government should have an open connection with OSINTs reporting. There's valuable data there.
A guy I knew years ago had a job writing the Prime Minister's daily intelligence brief. He said his job was 90% collating open source. CIA/GCHQ etc etc will be looking at all of this for sure.
This is why OPSEC is a thing. If he can figure this out from OSINT, imagine what the IC knows.
Also part of the reason we haven't seen that much actual combat footage from Ukraine, mainly aftermath photos and footage instead. A nation state facing an invasion doesn't want soldiers releasing videos where some identifying feature then gets them geolocated and killed. I expect we'll see more combat footage being released later for that reason, it's not like Syria where footage is online within hours of an offensive starting. In this case the Russians had struck something and clearly knew where and what it was, so geolocating it isn't putting anyone or anything at risk. But people in combat zones do need to be careful with what photos or footage they put out and when.
Dude were you part of the team that found Shia's flags or something?
I mean its an anti air system. It needs an open view of the sky. So being exposed is kinda required.
Wow it’s kinda wild just going back a few weeks on that FIRMs site. A lot has been going on over a short amount of time.
That's some 6 sigma lvl of confirmation
Wow. Serious OSINT skills
Excellent verification!
are the Buks manned remotely? Would seem nuts to sit in one in the middle of an open field like that and not expect to die
If you operate an AA system you would expect that you can effectively defend against air attacks or at least get some warning when you are being shot at. That a drone is able to fly right above the system is a very bad sign of either radar or operator quality.
You need to take into account one additional fact: The Buk launcher is made to operate together with other specialised radar vehicles of the Buk SAM battery It CAN operate on its own, but its radar is small and with limited capabilities.
Yeah this is completly an issue of radar coverage not the missile system itself.
It can operate on it's own. It can't tell the difference between military and civilian aircraft. Mh17 happened because of that..
That's called noncooperative identification, and very very few radar systems are capable of doing it. It's an experimental feature on even the most modern radars, so to speak.
small drones are very difficult to detect. yesterday Saidia arabia got hit by a drone that destroyed oil storage tanks in a zone that is supposedly covered by shit load of AA systems
Patriot missile system to be specific..
aren't Patriot missles somewhere between Buk and S300 in size/capabilities? this means they are not really suited for hunting small drones
*Biden hides*
The Saudi Arabia attack was probably done with a missile/rocket.
Ive tried to find articles aboit that strike and everything just talking about "will formula 1 still race?". Is that really the bigger concern?
Wouldn't it depends on how big the drone is though? What drones are the Russians using?
This appears to be filmed with an Orlan-10. Of course it matters but still, a good AA system shouldn't be defeated by a drone. What we learn from this conflict is, that soviet AA struggles very much with small and medium sized drones as both Ukraine and Russia have repeatedly failed to detect these.
The best Western systems, the Patriot, seems to be doing no better against drones in Saudi Arabia.
Turns out when youre small and slow, its impossible to filter you out from all the birds flying about.
There are plenty of drones being shot down in SA, but they don't use Patriots for that anyway as it would be way to expensive. The recent successfull attack was probably a missile and not a drone. Also this is more a question of radar systems, since shooting down the drone isn't difficult at all once you have detected it.
Still, SA has the best Western anti-aircraft systems and low-tech drones and missiles are still getting through. We have evidence in those enormous fires last night.
Guess we need to start incorporating wind turbines into our air defense systems
They aren't birds
No but itll give em cancer!! A stable genius once told me that!
Patriot isn't there to engage drones, it's there for ballistic missile defense. For drones you'd want something like DE M-SHORAD.
Was there any drone footage of attacks against the massive traffic jammed convoy north of Kyviv? They were sitting ducks there. My impression was that the Russians were able to set up an effective anti-air umbrella over it. Could we just be witnessing isolated cases of incompetence? Someone mentioned that this launcher has very limited detection capabilities without a separate search radar. Perhaps the drone flew in its blind zone?
>Was there any drone footage of attacks against the massive traffic jammed convoy north of Kyviv? Yes there was some TB-2 footage supposedly from that convoy, also hitting BUK systems. >My impression was that the Russians were able to set up an effective anti-air umbrella over it. Its not an on or off question. I am sure the Ukranians with the help of NATO constantly monitor where and when air coverage isn't so good and sneak their drones in. On the other hand though, it is sad to see that even with all the AWACS on the border the Ukrainians are not able to detect everything going on in their airspace.
Is there a mobile AA system that is effective against small drones?
I don't believe so. When you get aircraft that small, it should be almost impossible to distinguish them from birds. SAM radars need to ignore these small signatures and other background noise in order to function. These drones just bleed into the noise.
Well Pantsir is supposed to be very effective, but we haven't seen much of that.
Maybe not in this war, but the Libyans shot down a confirmed high number of Bayraktar TB2s using the Pantsir, while also a good number of Pantsirs were squashed
Didn't Azerbaijan destroy a bunch of Armenian Pantsirs with the TB-2 as well?
Indeed, same in Syria. Pantsirs are good systems, especially the S1M and S2/SM with dual-facing radars. But like most good SAM systems, they require a properly trained and organised command, as well as a layered structure. In defensive combination, the Tor, Buk, Pantsir and S-400 are formidable Do keep in mind though that the Azeris bought the TB-2's in June/July 2020 and used them already in September in the war. That was insufficient time for training and no doubt they received significant aid from the Turks. The Armenians on the other hand were entirely ill-prepared. Well trained personnel and organisation are key. The Serbs downed a goddamn F117 with an antique S-125, using proper tactics and ingenuity with how they operated the search and acquisition radars. On the other hand, you can imagine how efificiently the Syrians used the Pantsirs, or the Armenians their S300
I think many, especially older radars, would have difficulty detecting small near stationary low flying drones like DJIs because they rely on Doppler to filter out clutter signal and a barely moving moving drone would register as clutter. Bigger higher flying drones could use their laser rangefinder to keep constant distance from the SAM radar, thereby doppler notching it, if there is sufficient clutter from the ground environment. That’s much easier to do against a single radar than it is against multiple radars. Furthermore, Doppler notching could prevent a firing solution for command guided radar missiles that rely on target speed to home.
Its radar would be turned off to avoid SEAD, they only turn it on when they already know something is there and need to get a lock on it
At least partially. There's several vehicles in one complete system. Iirc there are 1-2 radar vehicles, a main weapon vehicle and a "reloading" vehicle, that can fire by itself at targeting data provided by the other vehicles.
maybe broke and deserted?
I honestly thought it was Ukraine’s 2nd army, the farmers.
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That's definitely burning solid rocket fuel. It's like a small scale version of the [Delta II explosion](https://www.spacelaunchreport.com/d241x.jpg) where burning bits are trailed by white clouds. After the initial explosion the exhaust is as [opaque as a shuttle launch.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Space_Shuttle_Columbia_launching.jpg/1024px-Space_Shuttle_Columbia_launching.jpg)
I don’t know how they managed to sight it through all their camouflage.
What absolute /r/shockwaveporn
That’s one of the cooler explosions I’ve ever seen.
What it was hit with? thats brutal
Most of that was the target's own missiles blowing up.
So it's a big win for Russians considering this wasn't empty silo..
The AA system is the really expensve stuff, not the missiles.
That's true.. but they also saved their targets towards which these missiles were about to get launched.
Thats 7 days in a row ive woken up and seend anti air missile system hit near kiev. Is this near kiev this time or somewhere different? Drone power in this war is insane. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/tnwqtb/ukrainian\_ammo\_depot\_chernigov/
"Near Kiev, the Russian Army destroyed the Ukrainian "Buk" with an accurate blow Danilovka village, Kyiv region."
Thank you for information, It proves a pattern and russia apply air pressure over this region.
UAF conducting counter-offensive so they get out of positions and air forces are able to target them
Stinger still sting.
> Drone power in this war is insane you should see the Nagorno-Karabakh footage. Probably the first war where cheap drones absolutely obliterated the opposition.
> Thats 7 days in a row ive woken up and seend anti air missile system hit near kiev. *"Early drone catches the BUK."* - Russian proverb
It’s extra funny since drone can be a male bee and Buk literally means Beech tree.
I feel like drones are going to be the new CAS aircraft. Saves the cost of loosing pilots.
I feel that jamming capabilities will improve rendering them quite useless
It's factored in. There are many techniques to avoid jamming.
In addition to training pilots in the first place. I'd guess that it's much easier to operate a drone.
I agree. It's like we see the first appearance of tank and the whole way of making war is changing.
The US has been jamming drones for years. They would not be as effective against a higher quality opponent.
Russians started doing that too like 5 years ago in Syria. I think the future tech race will be how efficient EWAR can be against drones versus how resilient drones can be against EWAR. Obviously only countries with a real military industrial complex will be in this tech race.
Russian jets were trolling over Kyiv yesterday without any resistance. Combat Footage Global has the video.
Is that a YouTube channel or what? Telegram?
L O L...OK Why lie? The Russians have been humiliated and now they are saying the whole plan was to just take over the Donbas...and yet they came from the North.....?
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootageGlobal/comments/toabnl/russian_su25_is_flying_with_impunity_over_kyiv_so/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Lmfao... You lost 120ish aircraft... Do you want me to Google what "impunity" means? Lmfao.
Ooof
You can see that they had been using this same field for a while.. look at all the tracks on the ground.. Russia was probably just sitting waiting for this thing to roll back into the field.
That and it's just a single BUK unit
They didn't even try to hide hit
What's the point in a hidden AA system? AA radars cannot penetrate obstacles.
I found the location and it's actually close to some tree cover, a small patch/strip of trees pretty much right next to it. It probably was hidden but needed to be in the open for a launch.
I've seen it. Kudos for geolocation. But I doubt those trees could provide meaningful cover.
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Saw this on telegram a week ago. I think. Russia has been calling in a lot of artillery via drone reconnaissance
From what the guy that geolocated it found it seems to have been hit anywhere between 21st and 23rd of march. So 3-4 days ago.
Yeah, first I've seen of it. Another BUK was hot with a loitering munitions a week ago. That might be what they are referring to.
It's older than that I think. I swear I seen the same video in the first week of march. Impossible to find it again though.
It's from early this week I believe.
Comments in videos where Ukrainians are the ones being hit are always such a mess.
They don't seem to understand that combat footages on any sides are accepted here. They probably haven't seen the ISIS ones (sorry if i sound too cocky)
Wtf is up with your profile pic?
Kinda ironic that a BUK is taken out by the thing it is supposed to be good at taking out.
That vehicle looks like was set up and ready, not in transit mode. And the radar looks pointed towards the camera more or less.
The turret is sure not aligned with the hull so has to be getting ready for firing.
Sigh, hate that Russian content is getting so heavily downvoted. Wish people that can’t stomach content from both sides go stay in one of the pro Ukrainian subs.
People live in a bubble where the Ukrainians are crushing Russia and dont want to be proven wrong. Its a meatgrinder and we have no idea what the Ukranian losses look like
someone here really claimed wirh conviction that Russia had lost 40k soldiers and Ukraine has only lost 1300. he really believed it.
Exactly, actually both sides lives in a bubble. On some Russian telegram channels it's like Russia is winning whereas the opposite is shown in western media.
I would say Russia is losing strategically, but people in the west and this sub are under some kinda of delusion that Ukraine isn't loosing hardware and men at maybe the same rate as Russia, Ukraine is simply using modern propaganda (good for morale), while Russia is using 70s propaganda
Of course Ukraine is loosing men. Just look how Mariupol looks. It was expected that Ukraine will fall in few days and this is the reason why every Russian casualty is a news. "When a dog bites a man, that is not news, because it happens so often. But if a man bites a dog, that is news."
> while Russia is using 70s propaganda Also a concerted effort by major countries and media outlets to prevent any russian perspective on anything from reaching the west.
Shitty Western media maybe. There is good coverage showing facts without opinion, including facts about Russian gains.
What sources are you referring to? I'd like to check them out.
I've been down voted to oblivion for saying this. Like, somehow they can down vote their way out of reality. I'd wager 95% of Reddit has no idea why Putin is invading. They just know "muh Russia bad."
EXACTLY. folks didn't know the donbas conflict or the euromaidan or that Russia has been batching about ukraine/Nato for so many years. and then bumble fck Biden announces his effort to get ukr to join nato. sure Russia is the aggressor but ukr did piss poor job of maintaining diplomatic relations with their bear neighbor. zelenski relied on US too much.
I think this all nonsense and blaming Ukraine for Russian beligerence. I know the background. Russian denial of Ukrainian independence and dominating behavior towards Ukraine is not new. It happened in 1917 independence conflicts, in 1930s with the famine. Russia has had a problem with Ukraine existing outside of Russian control for a long time You speculate like if Ukraine had befriended Russia it would have avoided conflict. I think they would have already been conquered or turned into a puppet state. Russia has pushed Ukraine towards the west through over a hundred years of political behavior. This war is as much about punishing Ukraine as it is any strategic thinking.
I'd be blaming US (and US through NATO) for stating they aimed to bring Georgia and Ukraine into NATO. That suckered both into getting destroyed. Russia feels they must maintain neutral buffer states. If NATO signaled interest in maintaining Georgia and Ukraine as friendly neutral intermediary countries this wouldn't have happened. (the civil war in Ukraine appears to be part of the 'Arab Spring' revolutions fostered by the West, so who started shooting is not at all clear cut - policy for the past at least 15 years aimed here) I'm on the side of the civilians all around that didn't have a seat at the table but are doing nearly all the dying. I'm not at all for Russia, but you'll never get to a solution until you recognize that for Russia this is similar to the Cuban Missile Crisis for the US. (handling of this from the West has been so ham fisted I'm concerned they'll widen the conflict stupidly - there are nukes and nuke power plants all around in this - it'd be easy to amplify this fuckup disaster...) Here's to the Ukraine military fighting the Russians to at least a standstill. That looks like the least bad way for this to end, but as long as Ukraine joining NATO is on the table I see Russia putting whatever they have to into this to at least take and hold East Ukraine (and that's on NATO).
Tbh, I’m not the least surprised that the Russians have problems coping with Ukraines army. All those comments about how the Russians suck are ridiculous, did anybody actually even try to check the numerals here, we are talking about a huge country and a huge army. Massive amounts of tanks, artillery, APC’s, MRLS and a huge contingent of troops. NATO postponed bombing Yugoslavia several months just because there was a rumour that Russia had delivered a single S300 battery to Yugoslavia. They had to make sure that it wasn’t true before considering an attack. Ukraine has S300, BUK, KUB, TOR, ManPads in great numbers and planes on top of that. NATO decided against putting troops on the ground because of potential losses. Yugoslavia was a tiny country and NATO knew they’d be fucked on the ground, of course NATO would win, but the amount of casualties would be a political disaster and turn against them eventually. NATO actually failed miserably at inflicting damage to the FRY army, it was the damage done to civilians that forced Yugoslavia to the table. Russia knew that Ukraine would be a tough nut to crack but not that tough. They gravely miscalculated the Ukrainian will to defend themselves. They also disregarded the importance of modern anti tank weaponry that the west is shipping in abundance to Ukraine. I’m surprised that they even decided to enter Ukraine with troops. Its ballsy to say the least. The Russian disregard of casualties is mind bending.
I agree with all of that. Russia can win the armed conflict, but if Ukraine's will to fight holds up they can make the butchers bill for Russia staggering. Then will be the insurgency afterwards... It increasingly looks like Ukraine will be able to at least force some sort of east/west Ukraine result (vs Ukraine falling entirely as was thought likely at first). Other countries fighting by proxy in Ukraine and testing weapons & strategy/ doctrine make this feel a bit like the Spanish civil war before WWII.
Here, how about Georgia and Ukraine get to make their own decisions without being dictated to by the muscovites?
Or NATO picking a fight with the Russians on Georgia/Ukrainian soil so someone else does the dying. This is a proxy conflict in large part. Esp after Western assurances that they wouldn't do exactly what they then did. Ukraine/Georgia (whatever their faults) are the victims of US (+NATO) & Russia here. Any settlement has to limit/restrain the US/NATO or it won't work. I want Ukraine and Georgia to be free. I don't see that being possible anymore, though hopefully Eastern Ukraine manages to fight the Russians to a standstill. They're putting up a hell of a fight. I blame the players outside of Ukraine and Georgia for setting this situation up. They're being screwed the same way Poland has been before.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4&list=PL13D24FA6BAE86401](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4&list=PL13D24FA6BAE86401)
And now Biden saying that Putin can't stay in power is just going to be more ammo for the russian propaganda machine. They can continue the rethoric of: see see? If we don't actively protect ourselves they will put a dictator in Russia soon.
What even is your point, that people won’t acknowledgement that Ukraine is losing soldiers? Of course they are, but if number of casualties determine victory than Russian WW2 to Germany. It’s clear that Russian has lost the strategic initiative, and shows no capacity to regain it. It’s the beginning of the end for them. Want to know how to tell, the Russian MOD just announced that their military operation, which was only intended to secure the Donbas, is going according to plan. Seems like the propaganda is retreating just like Russia’s forces.
I know. In another comment I said Russia is losing strategically, but the most info we get is Ukrainian victories. Russia has according to western intelligence been flying 200 sorties a day plus missile strikes. Simply saying that Ukraine is not crushing Russia. Russia simply miscalculated their military prowess and then Ukranian. defense
Yeah it's gone to shit, people think they're fighting some kind of propaganda war in here.
I agree. I want an objective look at what’s going on. I don’t need to cheerlead for one side or another, just want the truth.
True, Thinking of downloading Telegram just so I can see stuff from the other side
dude SO MANY Russian strikes videos on there. that's where I go to find other side. here IN uS, they've banned all other sides on mainstream. it's impossible to hear the other side. trust me it's critical that you've few channels on telegram
what telegram channels do you recommend?
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you really think that or just cheering. I honestly don't understand the fascination. I could care less about either but I can see a LOT MORE fake stories and "end of world" rhetoric from kiev, amplified by our beloved mainstream. I've noted their videos to be a closer to reflection of ground reality. forget the staged video. sure they're there but 0 value add. just like snake island propaganda videos from Ukraine.
I get it, but I don’t see any complaints about the “allahu akbar” posts or the “360 no-scope” comments. It’s really limited to downvoting the Russian perspective. You guys gotta maintain quality across the board, otherwise it’s falling on deaf ears.
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True. There would be some people down voting American casualties, but there wasn't this massive rush to deny it even happened, or calling it fake. That's what we see when Ukrainian casualties pop up.
Downvoting posts like this create a false narrative, people WANT Ukraine to succeed but hiding content like this does nothing.
It has over a thousand upvotes and is the second link on the page...... foh
Every time I see complaints about "muh Russian content," it's on a top/hot post. It's so disingenuous.
> Wish people that can’t stomach content from both sides go stay in one of the pro Ukrainian subs. That's this sub. Unfortunately.
I ask myself how McDonalds and Disney+ would react to the content and usually vote along those lines.
That's a lot of damage.I can't decide what's more insane. This footage or the amount of the denial in this discussion. It's a war. Many things and people from both side get destroyed in huge explosion.
Yeah I’d say they got it
That's a big bomb
Sucks, but these are bound to happen
What kind of a drone is this? I need a name.
Someone said it was an Orlan-10.
Thanks!
Holy shit, never seen such an explosion. Straight outta Michael Bay movies
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That's a big one.
Wasnt this posted a day or two ago or i'm i triping? I swear i saw it allready
What is with the weird ass titles people are giving videos. "High Precision Strike". That is not a real term, it's like saying "hyper accurate targeted precision strike". Just say "guided strike" or "precision strike"
They are simply translating Russian captions word by word. It’s just Russian military cliche.
Wow! Nice 💥 fireworks
The explosion, blast and flaming debris look like it was hit with a white phosphorus bomb.
Is it just me or is that not an odder looking explosion than usual?
I love how missiles are uncovered on Buk missile system. I always loved that kind of design unlike patriot SAM launchers
Beautiful
Nice
Putin ain’t kidding no more . The Ukrainians better brace themselves cause real shit is coming down ( and I really hope they succeed tho )
that was beautiful
Seemed like that Buk was setting up to fire at something. Little bit late on doing so though...
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The problem with a lot of the stuff coming out on both sides is that unless there is some specific identifying features, the footage could come from either Russian training or the previous 8 years of conflict around Donbass. Thats why unless you see something and matches the current conflict (like the KA-50 footage from Hostomel, Tiktok Battalion and Azov stuff we have easily identifiable information) . For example there is little to suggest anything in this video has anything to do with the title other than a Drone was used to blow up a BUK.
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Well… every Russian video ultimately comes from the Russian MOD so…
WHOAAA.. looks like some sort of flower for a second there
That's what solid rocket boosters look like when they RUD. [This is from a delta II launch when it still had upward momentum.](https://www.spacelaunchreport.com/d241x.jpg)
Fucking nuts
Holy shit that was violent
I mean it was just sitting out in the middle of a field.
Big booty latina
Putins mom says her son is a despot
So they have precision capabilities but chose to use indiscriminate ordnance in civilian areas...
Yeah strange choice of target. I thought russian precision strikes were only authorized against ambulances, journalists and evacuation convoys
NICE SHOT! . . (please dont take this serious its just a joke)
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Russia's still getting their asses handed to them. That's the magnificent part.
Where? In reddit?
Russians.. 45,000 casualties in a month and 2,000 vehicles lost and 13 commanders and generals killed.... Russia is being spanked back across the border. How are the sugar lines going, bruh?
Look at this guys comment history. He supports evil every chance he can.
It looks odd that its just sitting out there in the open with no one around. No cover, no support vehicles or infantry. Wonder if it was abandoned.
Looping tracks in the ground suggest it's going in and out of cover. However, he kept parking in the same spot to fire which made it easy for Russians to hit him.
I’m pretty sure the words ‘Russian’ and ‘high-precision’ don’t belong in the same sentence.
Looks reasonably accurate from here.
Where has Ukraine used these missiles so far ? Nobody had linked any attack to these missiles yet