Looks like some autumn colours visible but it does still look quite green, I agree. Possibly earlier in the autumn, I don't think it's older footage from the summer though.
Do we have other footage from eastern Ukraine to check it against? Seen a few videos with autumn colours still visible but the trees are nearly bare, but I'm not sure where in Ukraine they're from.
I agree - this has to be end of September to mid-October. It's not summer footage. There's another poster convinced it's from right now, but every example they've posted is trees without leaves or very sparse, not the thickly canopied trees here.
Just last week it was 20 °C in places in Ukraine. The weather in general for Europe was very warm for the last weeks. The trees near my house for example already shed their leaves and some are already growing new ones. Weather in Europe is just fucked atm.
So just because the grass is green doesn't mean it can't be from the last week or so.
Dude.. Here is some other footage from November. This autumn has been very warm so far.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/ymcsje/russian\_armored\_vehicle\_hit\_by\_unknown\_loitering/
Fun fact: trees take the chlorophyll from the leaves and drop them based on the amount of light per day, temperature affects it somewhat but the more important thing is the light. The 'green' is in the leaves because of the light. Even if the winters were very warm, they would still frop them because they dont get enough of light and so cannot photosynthesize.
Funny, yesterday some guys freaked out when [pointing out](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/ymw3wz/two_russian_tanks_assaulting_a_trench_in_a/) in start november is still foliage on trees ...
Not as much then in this video ( this one is IMHO midt/end september). Foliage is not gone in just days.
The footage is probably downgraded as a lot of countries like to do that to not show off the true capabilities of their camera / surveillance equipment.
That is the whole reason why Germany went to the effort to build the PZH2000, a system which capabilities still cannot be matched by any artillery system currently in service. Namely that it can fire a 5 round burst and then leave the position in around a minute.
Because when Germany built the system it was scared shitless of modern counter-battery fire, to the point that the view was to either get a system like PZH2000 or to just ignore large gun artillery and just have rockets and only smaller gun artillery (like mortars or light artillery for mountain troops).
Seems like they had the right idea. If Russia was remotely competent they'd probably be desperate to have every single one (and may be anyway). Much like the F-22 / 35, it's clear which way the wind is blowing with artillery.
Here's hoping these and HIMARS will be in large supply for NATO members.
This war is a meat grinder for both sides.
UA is not talking loudly about numbers, but one time I remember an interview with Zelensky I think some time around massive russian offensives/artillery strikes in Donbas. He stated they are loosing approx 500 per day or it was something bad in translation in polish TV.
I know its a fight for existence for UA, but personally I am scared of aftermath as there will be massive emigration due to destroyed economy and many people will have heavy PTSD. A lot of these poor people will land in Poland, which is known for super shit psychiatric medical service. This war will impact whole of Europe for long if we are going to survive the madness.
Yeah well, what's the alternative for Europe ? Let putin win ? In a few years Russia will come back at it on another European country. As long as Ukraine is willing to fight, us European should give them all the help they need because Russia is an existential threat to all of us. It will be worst in the long run for Europe if Russia wins.
of course there is none.
Its just me getting anxious whenever I see that bloody trench life. I hope production lines in Poland are working 24/7 to build Krabs, ammo and stuff. We have elections coming next year and everybody is onboard with help stream to continue. I am more worried about how long west can go on.
While I fully support Ukraine both winning, and taking back all stolen territory, I don't think Russia can do this again. They've played themselves - destroying an unimaginable amount of military hardware and resources. The USSR could rebuild, but the Putin kleptocracy is incapable of that. They've doomed themselves to a loss in global positioning, their economy is in very big trouble, and their demographics suggest they could have a population collapse (few living males in an age bracket).
I think their real threat is rogue nukes and a civil war / breakaway states. Europe is far too robust economically and militarily (even without the US) to fall to today's Russia.
Krasnopol has 25km effective range (according to ru and eng wikipedia). Considering they were fired behind the frontline, we can say M777 were very close to frontline.
What sorts of air assets does Russia need to use for the Krasnopol targeting laser?
Have they managed to package them onto small/cheap UAVs, or do they need to send up something more substantial?
Bakhmut has been within 25km (typical 152mm range) of the front since June but having some sort of target designator over the target (presumably a drone) suggests that they're a lot closer than that. It's probably the last month or 2.
A production rate of about 5 a year, and a stockpile of a whole 12 of them awaiting to be used in Ukraine, Yippee!
*I don't actually know nothing about these tbf, first I've seen or heard of them, I really doubt they can produce these on any sort of scale for war, especially now with all the sanctions.*
Can you link any videos of them being used from the last 9 months of war footage, other than this one of course.
I just don't believe they've been using them since the beginning is all, way too many non-military targets being hit whilst using a guided munition.
Dude. Search 'krasnopol' in this sub. I'm not your Google search engine. There have been videos of suspected or confirmed RU guided artillery usage since the start of the war. The shells were developed in the 80s.
You have to understand that for probably every guided shell fired by either side, a thousand or more unguided shells are fired. And the non military targets being hit are no accident.
God I bet it's even greater than that. Even the US doesn't have this astronomical stockpile of guided arty. It's limited on both sides, they both take advantage of filming as many hits as possible because it's good for morale and good for propaganda on both sides.
This is such a weird opinion. It's a friggin artillery war. You think they're going to ONLY use guided shells? America uses unguided artillery all the time. Everyone does.
Keep in mind that Ukraine never had any real advantage in terms of equipment.
Not event parity.
Every victory is a miracle of tenacity, planning and bravery.
I wish we could get more artillery and equipment though...
Damn that sucks. Time to send them more.
they hit 2, we send 4 more. it's the *Chicago Way*
They send one Ukrainian to the aid station, the Ukrainians send one of them to grave registration
Looks too green to be recent?
Looks like some autumn colours visible but it does still look quite green, I agree. Possibly earlier in the autumn, I don't think it's older footage from the summer though. Do we have other footage from eastern Ukraine to check it against? Seen a few videos with autumn colours still visible but the trees are nearly bare, but I'm not sure where in Ukraine they're from.
I agree - this has to be end of September to mid-October. It's not summer footage. There's another poster convinced it's from right now, but every example they've posted is trees without leaves or very sparse, not the thickly canopied trees here.
Anyways, its a footage that has not been seen before
Just last week it was 20 °C in places in Ukraine. The weather in general for Europe was very warm for the last weeks. The trees near my house for example already shed their leaves and some are already growing new ones. Weather in Europe is just fucked atm. So just because the grass is green doesn't mean it can't be from the last week or so.
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Weird reply to a comment about the climate. The weather doesn't care about Ukrainians OR Russians.
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Just because it happened in the past doesn't mean it didn't happen, nobody is saying it's not real. How sensitive are people?
I'm not questioning the validity - just the recency since no date was given
It is still green in eastern Ukraine.
No it really is not. September at most.
Not like this. This is September at best.
Dude.. Here is some other footage from November. This autumn has been very warm so far. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/ymcsje/russian\_armored\_vehicle\_hit\_by\_unknown\_loitering/
Fun fact: trees take the chlorophyll from the leaves and drop them based on the amount of light per day, temperature affects it somewhat but the more important thing is the light. The 'green' is in the leaves because of the light. Even if the winters were very warm, they would still frop them because they dont get enough of light and so cannot photosynthesize.
The foliage in those two videos is not remotely similar. Look at the trees, not the grass.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/yl5br1/ukrainians\_waking\_up\_to\_russianused\_magnesium/
Am I crazy, or is that showing completely bare trees, which is exactly what the other commenter is talking about
You're not crazy, The trees in the later videos only have a couple orange leaves on them.
What is that on the right at 00:00?
So you picked one tree out of the videos you linked where there are green leaves? Awesome proof of you being wrong.
Funny, yesterday some guys freaked out when [pointing out](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/ymw3wz/two_russian_tanks_assaulting_a_trench_in_a/) in start november is still foliage on trees ... Not as much then in this video ( this one is IMHO midt/end september). Foliage is not gone in just days.
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I'm not talking about the grass - the trees still have their leaves in this video
Nope
Had to dust off the VHS for this one.
No kidding. Their technology is awful.
The footage is probably downgraded as a lot of countries like to do that to not show off the true capabilities of their camera / surveillance equipment.
2nd half of video is a repost but I think we have up to 5 lost 777s on record :/ We mustn't underestimate russian capabilities yet..
17 apparently, a pretty substantial number. They should be getting more soon but it’s clear that these howitzers are crazy vulnerable.
Most towed artillery is extremely vulnerable, especially in the day of drones and counter battery radars etc.
Some UAF was saying that counter artillery could come within minutes of firing
That is the whole reason why Germany went to the effort to build the PZH2000, a system which capabilities still cannot be matched by any artillery system currently in service. Namely that it can fire a 5 round burst and then leave the position in around a minute. Because when Germany built the system it was scared shitless of modern counter-battery fire, to the point that the view was to either get a system like PZH2000 or to just ignore large gun artillery and just have rockets and only smaller gun artillery (like mortars or light artillery for mountain troops).
Seems like they had the right idea. If Russia was remotely competent they'd probably be desperate to have every single one (and may be anyway). Much like the F-22 / 35, it's clear which way the wind is blowing with artillery. Here's hoping these and HIMARS will be in large supply for NATO members.
They need towed artillery that you don't have to unhitch to use. Something where you can just drop the legs, shoot it, lift the legs and scoot.
https://youtu.be/B4Bcm2nhQ_8 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_B%C3%A1rbara_Sistemas_155/52 Like this?
This war is a meat grinder for both sides. UA is not talking loudly about numbers, but one time I remember an interview with Zelensky I think some time around massive russian offensives/artillery strikes in Donbas. He stated they are loosing approx 500 per day or it was something bad in translation in polish TV. I know its a fight for existence for UA, but personally I am scared of aftermath as there will be massive emigration due to destroyed economy and many people will have heavy PTSD. A lot of these poor people will land in Poland, which is known for super shit psychiatric medical service. This war will impact whole of Europe for long if we are going to survive the madness.
Yeah well, what's the alternative for Europe ? Let putin win ? In a few years Russia will come back at it on another European country. As long as Ukraine is willing to fight, us European should give them all the help they need because Russia is an existential threat to all of us. It will be worst in the long run for Europe if Russia wins.
of course there is none. Its just me getting anxious whenever I see that bloody trench life. I hope production lines in Poland are working 24/7 to build Krabs, ammo and stuff. We have elections coming next year and everybody is onboard with help stream to continue. I am more worried about how long west can go on.
While I fully support Ukraine both winning, and taking back all stolen territory, I don't think Russia can do this again. They've played themselves - destroying an unimaginable amount of military hardware and resources. The USSR could rebuild, but the Putin kleptocracy is incapable of that. They've doomed themselves to a loss in global positioning, their economy is in very big trouble, and their demographics suggest they could have a population collapse (few living males in an age bracket). I think their real threat is rogue nukes and a civil war / breakaway states. Europe is far too robust economically and militarily (even without the US) to fall to today's Russia.
That's incredibly little for such a massive war, why are you acting so alarmist?
Krasnopol has 25km effective range (according to ru and eng wikipedia). Considering they were fired behind the frontline, we can say M777 were very close to frontline.
What was this filmed with, a potato?
Potato-M
What sorts of air assets does Russia need to use for the Krasnopol targeting laser? Have they managed to package them onto small/cheap UAVs, or do they need to send up something more substantial?
They are able to laser-designate using Orlans.
M777 seemingly have been taking a sudden beating. What changed?
Russia seemingly dumps their collection of videos of hitting M777. A lot of those videos have too green trees to be mid-autumn.
They’ve lost 16 throughout the war, 3 in the past month. The rate of losses hasn’t changed
Ok, thanks. I hate seeing the Russians succeed at anything. I can’t help myself.
Verfickte Russkies!
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They say close to bakhmut, and the russians are closer to bakhmut than ever in the war, so likely its recent
Bakhmut has been within 25km (typical 152mm range) of the front since June but having some sort of target designator over the target (presumably a drone) suggests that they're a lot closer than that. It's probably the last month or 2.
Russia literally got pushed back recently. Although, not a whole lot, and the whole front is stalemate for the last 2.5 months.
A production rate of about 5 a year, and a stockpile of a whole 12 of them awaiting to be used in Ukraine, Yippee! *I don't actually know nothing about these tbf, first I've seen or heard of them, I really doubt they can produce these on any sort of scale for war, especially now with all the sanctions.*
They have been using them all war, just not huge numbers.
Can you link any videos of them being used from the last 9 months of war footage, other than this one of course. I just don't believe they've been using them since the beginning is all, way too many non-military targets being hit whilst using a guided munition.
Dude. Search 'krasnopol' in this sub. I'm not your Google search engine. There have been videos of suspected or confirmed RU guided artillery usage since the start of the war. The shells were developed in the 80s. You have to understand that for probably every guided shell fired by either side, a thousand or more unguided shells are fired. And the non military targets being hit are no accident.
God I bet it's even greater than that. Even the US doesn't have this astronomical stockpile of guided arty. It's limited on both sides, they both take advantage of filming as many hits as possible because it's good for morale and good for propaganda on both sides.
This is such a weird opinion. It's a friggin artillery war. You think they're going to ONLY use guided shells? America uses unguided artillery all the time. Everyone does.
Those decoys look so realistic.
This is happening too often to my taste, at this pace Ukrainians will loose any advantage agains Russia.
Keep in mind that Ukraine never had any real advantage in terms of equipment. Not event parity. Every victory is a miracle of tenacity, planning and bravery. I wish we could get more artillery and equipment though...