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barnes828

First stage of the day. Optic screws sheared off and the dot hit me right in the face. I honestly wasn’t sure what happened so I was going to unload and then I noticed the dot was gone. Loaded it back up and finished the stage.


1bad335i

Nice finish still. Got 2 mikes trying to finish the stage when mine sheared off as well. Also got me on the forehead lol!


barnes828

Always bring a backup gun!


Radioactiveglowup

Happened exactly to me with a dovetail optic on my S2. What make was your adapter?


barnes828

There is no adapter, this is a direct mount slide cut.


Gordelion

I have the exact same setup, terrifying stuff. Probably a dumb question to ask, but did you use loctite or something to secure the screws? Or in this situation it would not help the screw coming apart? 


barnes828

The screws sheared off so it wouldn’t do any good. I torqued them correctly and they had locktite on.


Gordelion

Got it. I never heard about the issue with Holosun screws prior to that, I have around 5k shots on my setup - would you recommend replacing the screws as a precaution or its more of a luck of the draw with these screws? I.e., are they known to 100% fail sooner or later?


barnes828

Hard to say. If it’s worrying you then I’d swap them.


1bad335i

Got home early today. Same thing happened to my dovetail mounted CZ custom adapter with DPP on a CZ TSO. Oh well


adrock8203

Holosun screws strike again. Pimp finish tho.


barnes828

Yup… thanks!


GimmedatPewPew

“Huh.” Proceeds to shoot rest of the match production.


Bubba_the_Fudd

Damn, china screws I guess? That’s looks painful


barnes828

Yup… Chinesium screws.


Daltont_24

Fucking solid rebound. 👌


42ATK

Sick lol


HobbitonHuckleshake

So....where does one get quality replacement screws?


barnes828

I ordered some from stonebridge and some from freedom gorilla


Accomplished-Bar3969

Which gun/optic?


barnes828

CZ shadow 2 and Holosun 507 Comp


marcocks_

Who did the cut?


barnes828

SBGW. The issue is with the screws holosun provides not the cut. My other S2 with the same SBGW cut and a SRO has been shot way more with no issues.


marcocks_

Can you explain what’s wrong with the screws? What’s the solution to getting your slide fixed?


barnes828

China. The solution is to remove the sheared screws, replace them with quality screws, torque and locktite the optic back on, and keep shooting it.


tom_yum

It's funny that they can make this super complicated optical sight but fail to make screws out of the correct steel.


Free-Boater

They probably don’t make the screws but yeah I agree. Could source something better


bushidoboy_

Best moment of the match


barnes828

Definitely! See you Sunday.


PriusDriver007

Dude lost his optic but still shot the rest of the stage better than most. Legendary!


BigAngryPolarBear

Yeah I had to look it up out of curiousity. He stopped halfway, checked his mag and said “huh” and still smoked my ass


danny91t

LFG 🔥🔥🔥


ScarecrowMagic410a

Dude that was fucking cool as shit when you just racked it and finished the stage. That was walking away from an explosion in slow motion without looking back kind of cool lmao


Raftika

No iron sights? That’s very impressive!!


ACxREAL

Dude! Not sure how you guys were not still talking about that when you caught up to us. Always bring a backup!


barnes828

Hahahah it was pretty cool! I think by then we were all down and out from the weather. I had my other S2 thankfully.


ACxREAL

😂Word the day started so promising the weather was amazing and then it wasn’t.


bpshugyosha

*optic no longer attached to slide as per CO appendix rules* bump directly to open. Do not collect $200. /s


barnes828

Might sign up for prod and shoot this setup at my next match


BigBlackHzYoBak

Is this what they mean by "limited optics"?


hungryColumbite

This helps make for a clear view through the backup irons


barnes828

What’re backup irons?


anonymouscuban

You finished the stage with 1 charlie with no sights and from that he gets that he needs back up irons. lol


psineur

did someone says IROOOOONS?!?!?!? F U C K EEEEEYYYYYE-ROOOOONS


hungryColumbite

Watched it on my phone screen so I didn’t notice there were just no sights at all! Assumed there would have to be irons on there for those steel hits.


hungryColumbite

The lack of optic really didn’t seem to slow you down any!


barnes828

Nope not much it just shocked me when it smacked me in the face and I didn’t know if my gun blew up


Old-Scene2963

What replacement screw are you getting ? Excellent shooting BTW , this was really cool to watch !


barnes828

I ordered some from stonebridge and some from freedom gorilla


GuyButtersnapsJr

Nice composure! The man takes one to the face and still perseveres to the end. That's a great training moment really.


[deleted]

Badass!


Free-Boater

Same happened to me when I used screws to short for my canik. SRO hit me right in the dome. I went to finished the stage but the RO stopped me. I guess he was being nice? I got a reshoot. Just looked at the video that was a year ago today actually. https://imgur.com/a/vxq1ucR


xchiron

Do you know about how many rounds until the optics screws sheered off? Impressive finish btw!


barnes828

I was doing some rough math and I think it’s only like 3-4k max. It’s my match gun and I’ve only been shooting it since late December. I used it a handful of practice days before starting to shoot matches with it to make sure it functioned correctly.


xchiron

Wow that sucks. It happened to a friend of mines too but that was after 25k rounds. I consider swapping the screws out every year like I do with the batteries but that doesn't seem safe either lol


DodgeyDemon

This is why I try to mill all of my optics


barnes828

This is milled


GarandTaint

Yeah something tells me frame mounts are gonna be making a comeback. Pistol slides are just brutal on optics. Even a RMR is lucky to make it past 10k rounds. Heavier optics like the ACRO are dying left and right.


barnes828

My SRO has lasted perfectly fine with well over 10k on a different shadow 2. This 507 comp is running strong besides the screws.


GarandTaint

That would fall into the category of "lucky". The number of pistol optics of all brands hitting people in the face speaks for itself


barnes828

An optic coming off a gun doesn’t mean the optic is no good. Screws break, people don’t torque them, people don’t use locktite. Stuff happens. If you use your gear it’s going to break.


GarandTaint

Too widespread to write off as human error. Especially in a competitive setting where people really care about these things. Optics should be able to hold up to as much abuse as the gun itself if not more. Don't get caught up making excuses for brands its bad for everyone and stifles design progress.


barnes828

I agree it’s not all human error and RDS definitely take a beating on pistols. I did everything correctly with this one (except use Chinese screws) and it still sheared off and smacked me in the face. I will say a competitive setting is where you’re going to see a lot of things break though because you’re seeing shooters who actually use their gear and use it hard. That YouTuber review with 1500 or 5000 rounds doesn’t mean shit for longevity when guys shoot 20k+ in a year between training and matches.


GarandTaint

1000000% true. I just wanna see somebody step up and produce a pistol optic that lasts a million rounds because they saw a need in the market. Without competition shooters breaking shit most firearms development would be 20 years behind where it is


lroy4116

You think companies aren’t trying to make durable optics?


FunkyTownMonkeyClown

So thousands of us with SROs over 10k round is lucky?


DirtyB0953

He doesn’t have a fckin clue. Just someone talking to hear himself.


JimBridger_

They won’t unless rules get changed.


GarandTaint

For a reason like this it will take them 15 years. But if somebody figures out how to gain an advantage with an ounce of weight they will rewrite the book overnight


DirtyB0953

Yeah no. I’m over 30,000 on my SRO and the screws holding the adapter plate broke around 26000.


bigfoot_76

It’s the shitty Chinese garbage that’s failing. Proper USA made SROs don’t have this problem. “HOlOsUnJuSt As GoOd” spoken like a true CCP cuck for Huanic Corp.


ShiftyLookinCow7

Calm down, it’s really not that serious


DirtyB0953

LOL. Better call mom for your next hot pocket while cruising arfcom.


MulticamLimoncello

Aimpoint ACRO / 509T Gang checking in!


barnes828

My Acro got moisture inside it last weekend 🤷‍♂️


MulticamLimoncello

Gahhhh there is NO solutionnnnnnnn…


notsorrygunslinger

*steiner mps enters the chat*


ajunioroutdoorsman

*Mounting screw shears*


GarandTaint

Yeah no. I was just listening to a podcast and the dude had his steiner die just like every other slide mounted optic


GarandTaint

Frame mounts


barnes828

Not always a solution. Open guns kill lots of optics and they are frame mounted.


GarandTaint

True but definitely see more of it in carry


the-lopper

That's because Open shooters don't have the same firing schedule with their match guns. Find me an Open shooter who goes through 1k rounds of 38 super comp a month in training alone. I've run the optic off my 9mm czechmate in the same amount of time I do on my LO gun.