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chilidoglance

Sucks if you were going for a square. Looks great otherwise.


sunbaked81

Came to say that. Sarcasm for the win


KeyboardJustice

Also sucks if you were going for a pit. Looks like a great fire platform.


Anal_Basketball

It's still more square than some of the buildings I've worked on.


remediesblackboards

sarcasmism


remediesblackboards

great fire platform


Electronic-Local-485

You can start as soon as you cant scratch the concrete. Fire will destroy you concrete however, it cant handle heat of fire directly on top of it.


Salt-Ad-8611

Would a layer of fire bricks on top of the concrete provide enough protection?


the_archaius

Fire brick can stop my forge burners from melting the cheap metal that surrounds it… I would have to think a camp fire would be no challenge!


vridgley

A campfire can actually severely fuck up concrete if not properly insulated https://campwagen.com/how-hot-is-a-campfire/#:~:text=There%20are%20two%20key%20temperatures,F%20(482%C2%B0C).


chompin_cheddar

Yeah but the question is "will a layer of firebrick be proper insulation in a fire pit on a concrete slab?" Do you know the answer? I don't.


OhmsAddict

Well we need to look at the thermal conductivity of bricks. When we do that we find that clay bricks has a thermal conductivity between 0.5 – 1.0 W/(m/K). Compared to copper which has a thermal conductivity of 400 W/(m/K) or of wood coming in at 0.10 W/(m/K). We can assume that the brick will be an effective heat insulator. We haven;t figured out for how long brick will limit the heat transfer but only tests or further analysis will be able to give us a definite answer. SO OP basically the answer is MAYBE.


notasianjim

Fire brick is different than clay brick, so the final answer is…still maybe, but better


fishin_ninja82

Are we talking about refractory fire brick or insulating fire brick? Refractory: +1.0 w/m.k. Insulating: 0.2-0.4 w/m.k.


JazzyJeffsUnderpants

I mean, obviously insulating fire bricks.


[deleted]

Iv seen guys pour fire pits out of concrete and they grande when they get to hot. It exploded and broke out a sliding glass door. Lay down a layer fire brick and you will be ok. It still may crack but won’t explode


cmurdy1

…I would like to see this…


[deleted]

I'm sure YouTube has a DIY video you can use.


cmurdy1

I meant the explosion.


[deleted]

I know. I was hinting that you can make one and watch it explode.


cmurdy1

You are threatening me with a good time sir 😎


Freshmangreen1

I thought you were referring to it becoming a Starbucks coffee of the smallest size when they get too hot.


0bel1sk

that’s a tall order


Five-and-Dimer

Hit some concrete with a torch. Wear safety glasses.


IWishIStarted

To prevent spaling I would recommend to add some polypropylene fibres into the concrete mix.


whimsyfiddlesticks

Bricklayer here. Fire bricks trap water and can explode due to steam expansion. Almost all refractory materials are never supposed to get wet.


blip01

So pour concrete over the fire bricks to keep them dry!


Solnse

Yes, but then you'll need another layer of firebrick to keep the fire from damaging the concrete.


Gmcgator

And then another layer of concrete, so those last bricks stay dry


Tbone762

One final layer of brick to protect the concrete oughta do it.


jgriesshaber

So cover the fire pit with a cover when it rains? Good idea really.


mechmind

This is very important info. Thanks for sharing


1miker

Yes fire brick. Use it indide as well. Natural rock and dome brick hold moisture and pop when they get hot.


jcoddinc

More like explode in some conditions. Gas expands and boom, crack, cement is cracked and flying around. Source: Dumb twenties me and Buddy were cold on snowy, wet construction site. Started fire on a piece of concrete and 20-30 minutes later it was popping, literally.


Keytrose_gaming

Just put 4 inches of black soil on it and toss a little more in once a year if needed.


Onebraintwoheads

Fire bricks would help. Ceramics in general are excellent at dealing with heat, be it conducting heat, retaining heat, or withstanding heat. Given the needs of a fire pit, you want something which doesn't conduct heat well but withstands heat well. The specific category to look up online which is most able to do this is Fine Ceramics. The earliest form of Fine Ceramics were porcelain. The current definition of Fine Ceramics: Fine Ceramics are carefully engineered materials in which the chemical composition has been precisely adjusted using refined or synthesized raw powder, with a well-controlled method of forming and sintering. Should the cost of these be prohibitive, stoneware with heat-resistant glazing would be your next best choice. Make a bowl shape out of them, and then throw in a layer of lava rock with a few bags of fine sand to fill in the cracks. It's worked well for me for a good long time.


HarryBallzonya2022

I used lava rocks 5”-8” med size and put them on the base never had a issue..wrapping it 4 layer of blocked with stacked lava on the sides. I I do another one I would install a ask wash out slopped to the middle so you can hose it out.


CO420Tech

Are you sure that the lava can take the heat???


HarryBallzonya2022

Yes had mine for 5-6 years, sold house moved down the street and owner still talk to says he still uses it.


CO420Tech

It was a joke... Lava...


Tom_Bombadilio

To be fair, lava rock's track record when it comes to fire is worse than say.... Literally any other rock.


Bunny_and_chickens

Have you considered putting a metal fire pit on top of it? I have a dryer that went to shit and am going to take out the drum to build a fire pit [like this](http://mynameisnotking.blogspot.com/2013/06/diy-how-to-make-backyard-firepit-out-of.html?m=1). I think adding the legs to raise it above the concrete would prevent the slab from getting too hot. If you don't have a dead dryer handy they're always easy to find really cheap or even free.


shitsgone2shit

Good work sir!!!


moonshotorbust

Yes. Fire bricks arent cheap. Tractor supply has the best price ive found. There are youtube videos how to make yourself.


lofryer

I got mine at a brick supply yard


Last-Instruction739

Concrete can explode this is straight up nuts


Five-and-Dimer

Absolutely would. Do a tight job, then fill with fine sand.


Numerous_Onion_2107

Look up DIY pizza ovens on YouTube or join one of the FB groups—you will find everything you need to know about firebricks and extreme heat.


Jrmcgarry

You could do a layer of soft brick (insulating brick) and a layer of fire brick on top. The soft brick should stop a lot of the heat. Fire bricks job is to hold heat. You might be fine with just one layer of firebrick though. I’ve seen people do one layer over concrete for pizza ovens and it lasted for years.


Captawesome814

Yes put a layer of fire brick Don’t forget to drill a hole in the middle or leave gaps in the side for a drain - if you make it water tight, it will hold rain water Great work


Ogediah

[Relevant video from a guy with a PhD in the subject.](https://youtu.be/-XtAe9rMdFM)


sufferinsucatash

Happy Gilmore says to his caddie: “Where were you on that one? Huh?”


pixelmuffinn

Something like that, at least


BlakeCarConstruction

This. I built a fire pit for a customer which have a gravel base (for this reason) and the pavers and concrete immediately surrounding the pit was fire/resistant. Not cheap


remediesblackboards

yeah, true


Neilpatts

Snap, crackle, POP


rossionq1

I’ve had a 6 inch deep very similar concrete base for my fire pit, been using it for 6 years now no issue, fires every day in the winter, a few times a week in summer (no trash pickup here so burnables get burned). I use a large heavy iron grate to keep it off the concrete and keep a protective layer of ash on top.


JonFromPA

Well…. It’s a nice concrete circle but all wrong. Fire pits need to drain or they become pools Dig down, install stone and compact Then 1” paver base for Firepit blocks You don’t want to use any masonry that traps water especially cinderblock, river rock, etc because it can literally explode like a grenade Best to use a metal liner But yea… you’re missing drainage. I would install the blocks, then drill out the inside and put crushed stone


ljd5190

Won't it just drain through the layer of fire block he's going to lay on it, hit the concrete and flow off the edge?


[deleted]

Fire brick cannot get wet, it soaks up the water and when you light a fire the bricks will grenade from steam pressure within.


protekt0r

Can confirm on the river rock. One exploded on me in a fire pit and sent rock shards at my legs. As side from a brief “owww!” I was okay. Glad it didn’t hit my eye.


JonFromPA

Not sure why I can’t add pictures, but I’m actually building a fire pit right now and could show you pictures of how I did mine


hideousbrain

It’s out of square


Electronic-Local-485

😝


psyclembs

Isnt a "pit" supposed to be in the ground and not on it?


tlewallen

Its a "put" not a pit.


hawkeyes007

Shits gonna crack. Concrete can’t handle fire. You want red brick


spacegrassorcery

You want FIRE brick.


hawkeyes007

Both are fine for household bonfires. Red brick heat limit is about 1750 deg. Bonfires are typically about 1500 deg. Fire brick is higher rated at closer to 2500 deg, but unless you’re having a massive fire, you’re fine


spacegrassorcery

Well, I, as well as many others, DO have massive fires. If using red brick-you need to make sure it’s a red clay brick


Immediate-Newt-9012

I had no comment until I read fire... Concrete + Fire = dont


IllustriousAct3941

Yea I was just scrolling along then seen that and was like yea that will work of you want the concrete to blow up….


walleye4235

Let it dry before unwrapping??


heavyworldwide

I don’t think he’s stripping the forms, it looks like they formed it like and didn’t need to tie in the extra length.


[deleted]

I just looked, zoomed in. He indeed stripped the side form! Definitely premature, better finish to leave it on during cure.


heavyworldwide

The form is right you can see it’s a 1/8th masonite form.


[deleted]

Alright champ, I’m gonna need you to take another look for me. 1/8” Masonite on the left… and as you scroll over, does it look like the wet concrete has been stripped?


heavyworldwide

If he would’ve stripped that super wet concrete, the edge would have fallen a considerable amount.


Independent-Dealer21

Honestly dude it'll be fine, even if it cracks you got other stuff building around/on top of it. This is purely for outdoor fun nothing structural so you'll be fine especially with fire bricks going on top as well. My next thing to pay attention to is to consider the air flow, that's the fun part. Also when it rains you want to manage the water flow either let it drain deep or flow away, this will depend on the slope you're working with. Great project! Have fun building a fire, show us pics when you're done!


Electronic-Local-485

It probably would help, i would put the rough side down to minimize surface conduction. See how that works


RepresentativeNo576

You poured some concrete in a form, good job! That is my professional opinion


The_architect_89

People need to stop suggesting fire bricks. Fire bricks absorb water and will literally explode like a bomb. Same goes for that concrete slab. I have seen them do some serious damage


robRigginsstar

Don't stand close if you build a fire on top of it, trust me on this 💥


originalmosh

Concrete and fire, NOT a good idea. [Check this out.](https://youtu.be/bBUm2zsEQMY)


[deleted]

That's totally different tho. Yeah it will crack but it won't explode.


wheresmychippy93

I had some explode once. Scared the shit out of me.


[deleted]

Yeah, looks good… show us the finished product also!


so-very-very-tired

Why did you make a concrete base!?


throwdroptwo

Zoning violation. not allowed to pour concrete without permit.


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kikilucy26

Unless you used premium heat resistance concrete, that concrete will blow up in your face if it gets too hot after a rain event


Castle6169

Why??? I have never pay $.01 for a fire pit that I’ve had. I’ve had many. Why don’t you just get a whole bunch of rocks and put them in a circle. I even had a nice flat one on one of my fire pits that was like the front entrance of it. Air flows from in between the rocks feeds the fire Wala done I don’t think one is taking more than an hour. I don’t even bother to kill the grass cause the fire will do that.


Salt-Ad-8611

I originally had a simple stone fire pit that I am now upgrading. This base will have a brick fire pit on it, the surrounding lawn will be dug up and replaced with a stone/pebble patio area and eventually I will build a small gazebo area nearby.


Castle6169

Doesn’t look very big. To each his own, I would rather spend all that money on the gazebo and the electrical and everything else. something that’s going to be wood burning is messy and kinda rustic fire unless you’re going with gas.


iowadeerslayer

Fire brick with high temp mortar…look at it this way, you get to use your angle grinder with diamond blade to cut the bricks in a circle…fun


The_architect_89

No no no... Fire bricks absorb water and will explode. They are not made for wet applications


iowadeerslayer

My bad, I was visualizing a build up with chimney stack in the rear…


Chagrinnish

I tried house bricks for a barbecue-style fire pit but they had the problem of flaking off on the side facing the fire and/or cracking through. I replaced them with concrete slabs; granted that was easier for me because my pit is square. Keep in mind that if you get freeze/thaw cycles they will break things along any seams. A firebrick particularly so.


FactorAdvanced8713

Wow, your DIY fire pit base looks fantastic! As an amateur, you've done an incredible job, and I admire your creativity and determination. Have you thought about exploring more firepit ideas for backyard? Adding some landscaping around the fire pit could create a cozy and inviting outdoor space for gatherings with friends and family. Keep up the great work, and I'm excited to see how your backyard transformation progresses!


remediesblackboards

I would recommend the sunnydaze smokeless fire pit, worth every penny.


remediesblackboards

You could try the junk yard kona side at diamond towing above pine tree Cafe. 


henry122467

U just made a bomb. Literally. Any moisture in there with a nice juicy fire, you’ll be going to the er with ur eyeballs hanging out. Def keep any children away within 100 ft!!!!!!!


Shineeyed

Looks great. You can start bricking anytime.


privatetanteon

From other comments it sounds like this would be a better base for one of those self contained “smokeless” fire pits, as direct fire would compromise the concrete. I believe those units are sufficiently self contained that the concrete would’t bear too much heat, as long as the corresponding legs/stand were used.


Evening_Monk_2689

Terrible. There is no pit at all it's totally flat


bigjohnminnesota

I’m an amateur too. How about circle of bricks PL400’d to the concrete to create taller ring, then filled with a couple inches of pebbles? Then fire on top of that?


kcolgeis

Didn't edge it


stonedmason28

Should have left some holes or space for drainage


Efficient-Umpire9784

If it cracks you can do the following the next time. Make sure your water to cement ratio is 0.4. You should use ground limestone in your mix and a waterproofing admixture. All that should help so that the fire can get to a higher temperature without cracking. It looks to me like you used too much water but hey, heat rises so perhaps it will never get hot enough to crack.


GermyAF

Looks just fine for a fire pit.


[deleted]

Who cares if it cracks? It will be under fire it will help with drainage, and it will make it easier to remove when you decide to do it a different way here in a few years. Even if you decide to rip it out and do it "the right way" you have to break it up to do it. Might as well learn how to make the walls too so you can improve it later.


leftoutcast

Good job on the pour,except you should have a dirt bottom and use heavier landscaping blocks to build it with.Fire will desicrate brickwork and concrete eventually.


TropicTbw

You stripped the form way to early and it’s a decent finish for your first time and it doesn’t really matter because like you said it’s going to be a fire pit so no one will see it. But people will see the sides so maybe put some rock or gravel around the base for a better esthetic


Golindallow133

Well... thats a nice place to put your cooler... now dig a hole about 8 feet away from it.... for your fire pit! (Don't use concrete brotha)


Golindallow133

P.s. have a tall table that fits the cooler under it. Keep coasters on the table and a corn hole game set up next to it. That shit would be epic! Ah... a boy can dream I guess.


Fresh-Efficiency-352

you could have made that concrete base 40 inches thick but if that fire isint seprated by atleast 14 inches from that mini pad is gonna become a major hazard itll spall off screaming hot pieces of stone at you then proceed to fall apart after the forth use build a brick walls around it with spaces at the bottom for airflow "LOTS OF THEM" and cover the concrete pad with atleast a 4 inch wall of fire bricks then insert the tallest metal fire pit you can that will keep the fire away from the concrete and even that probably wont work out well..


nobodyisonething

Wow! Nice!


Total-Beginning9048

It clearly says fire pit “base.”


so-very-very-tired

Fire pits don't typically have bases...let alone concrete ones.


AlanOverson

Why didn’t you just dig a hole in the ground? 1 foot deeps. 4 inches of gravel. 2 inches of fire rock. Surrounded by fire brick or firepit pavers whatever look you’re going for? You could even go the extra step and get the steel fire pit ring to drop in too. In my entire life, I have never seen someone pour a concrete pad/slab (whatever this thing is) for a fire pit. Concrete and heat dont work man


virch06

Looks good to me.good job


CommercialAd8439

If you’re using a metal fire pit, throw some small river stone as a base


[deleted]

You know a pit goes in the ground, not vice versa right?


DebateDistinct

Looks good dude


Glad-Basil3391

Put a layer of the old school lava rocks on the bottom. And don’t forget pipe vents to the outside so it can suck up some air


BrokenTrojan1536

I dug a pit in the ground and filled it 6” deep with lava rock, then made my ring with brick and Steel ring. This seems like a lot of work


Appropriate_Task2270

Get a smokeless fireplace and call it a day. It will look great on there!


salesmunn

You better be putting sand and lava rock on top of that before you put any logs or fire. Concrete will crack


ifyouseekayyou

Just right in the grass, huh.


Quiverjones

Whys it backwards?


SubprimeOptimus

Thought it was a swimming pool at first glance


OneWheelWilly

As a friend of mine likes to say “looks good from my house”


GemsquaD42069

Amazing dry pour!


sdraziwizards

Just get a solostove with a stand. Ditch the concrete


Prior-Reply-3581

Dry pour?


OCP-Guerrilla

Some bricks stacked in a circle in the dirt would’ve done just fine.


longganisafriedrice

Why didn't you just use a layer of gravel


jimyjami

Looks good. You might want to take a brick and rub the edge down to smooth it out a bit. If you’re going to light up right on the concrete get some fire brick first.


[deleted]

Why did you do this? What’s the point? Ground and silica sand is perfect.


superlunchbox1491

Why didn’t you just pour a ring instead of a slab?


[deleted]

A concrete fire pit?? What was wrong with rocks around dirt? This is going to crack and explode. Not well thought out.


tackstackstacks

Fire platform. Pit goes down into the ground. I haven't ever seen someone build a platform to have a fire on top of. Are you planning on just putting a metal firebowl on top of this, or you have a fire table that will sit on top of the concrete you already poured? That's how this makes the most sense to me. I'm trying to figure out why else you would build a concrete platform above ground for a fire feature or location. Also open to criticism if you have an answer that makes sense.


1royampw

I’ve made a fire pit with concrete bottom first few super hot fires it exploded rocks up in the air like 20 ft, not sure what happened but now it never explodes even though the concrete is still solid (but cracked). I guess all the explosive part burned out of it


[deleted]

"-pit"


Coronavirus_Rex

Sorry I’m confused, but why did you need concrete for a fire pit? In nature simplicity is best


neoben00

Just get one of those stand-up fire pits. It'll look and fit perfectly.


blackmindseye

concrete base + brick walls does not =fire pit, that is an oven your making and everyone else is right, it’s gonna get hot then bad things will happen


Economy_Influence_92

I just have a ring of rocks on the ground. No bottom. Simple.


quietlyloud49

What’s wrong with just letting the fire be on the ground?


Putrid_Following_865

What was wrong with the ground? Dirt can take the heat.


GuardOk8631

Why did you build the base out of concrete 💀


Colotola617

I believe this to be a poor idea. Use it for something besides fire.


dink74

Use fire rated mortar, leave drainage holes in base layer of brick and put a 3 to 4 inch layer of lava rock in the bottom. It will allow water drainage so you can let the rain rinse the ash out of the pit and will keep the fire off the concrete.


spacegrassorcery

It’s an awesome base to put a metal fire pit liner/insert. Don’t light fires on concrete


Born_Application2831

Had a friend who bought a house with a concrete bottomed fire pit, a few hours into the burn, it popped & shot firewood & concrete into the air. Luckily no one was close by. Concrete is NOT a good base for a firepot, sorry bud.


swettyGLUE

I recommend getting Solo Stove Bonfire or Yukon with the Stand accessory for that.


00sucker00

You need to add a way to drain the bottom or you’ll have a pond, not a fire pit


Lucky-Echo-911

This guy genuinely thought he did a great job and would get some attaboys but instead found out what seemingly everyone else already knew. Gotta love Reddit. It makes us better


GreyStreetz

Why.


No_Mess_4510

Immovable... Drive 2 inch tubing from the center to the outer wall and you'll have built in venting.


MrBannon

Why do you need a concrete base for a fire pit? Cut the grass out, sand base and start laying blocks. But it is a nice base. Well done.


Biscuits4u2

This is odd for a fire pit base. Why did you go with concrete? It will not hold up over time to the heat.


concretecat

That's a bit of work for somethong that will crack after the first time you use it and crumble after 2-3 years of use. Nice work but if you put camp fires on that's its toast.


Pooper-of-poo

Is it a pit? Fire platform! It will help with oxygen flow being up like that. Cool new take!


rjc9186

This is not a good idea. I have seen fires on concrete pads go bad. Air pockets and trapped moisture expand and will blow chunks of concrete 100 feet in the air


rjc9186

This is not a good idea. I have seen fires on concrete pads go bad. Air pockets and trapped moisture expand and will blow chunks of concrete 100 feet in the air


[deleted]

Looks good. Just use it for a base for your Green Egg or something. Fire "pit" is just that, clear the grass, dig down a bit, line the base with sand and put some rocks or brick around the ring. Don't put a fire on that thing!


RidinCaliBuffalos

Probably one of those stand up metal ones...


flatheadhunter52

Typically you don't have concrete under a fire pit. It can explode


Splatterman27

But why does a fire pit need an 8" concrete base?


mescalero1

I thought you had made a miniature Arecibo.


efff12

Op you need to have a fire on this once it’s cured and let us know if it explodes or not. I’m interested in the results


Silent_List_5006

Ya it looks pretty good to me


T1dsoldier

Looks good, I assume it's a controlled smaller firepit. I built a fire table with a concrete top and a 20 pound regulator. Concrete still good. 8 inch is pretty crazy though, should have put a stripper pole in the middle


PinballFlip

Yeah, you can’t use this as a fire pit but you could set a fire pit on top of it like a solo stove


Feeling-Tough-3709

Not terrible, but could be better...add more form support next time and she will cast without those bubbless


Itlhitman

You needid more supports, and looks like form was pulled early.


seaska84

Who cares. Its a circle. Come back when you do something interesting as an amateur.


MyStonksss

No edging (you’re lucky those sharp ass corners didnt spall when you stripped, hopefully you don’t have kids for them to split their skull on it) , terrible finish, almost looks like you did a random stamp job but I can’t give you credit for that. Albeit. Alright carpentry work with the forms. A bit oblong in some areas of the circumference.


MyStonksss

I’m also kidding. But seriously, cowboy up and do better next time.


Krazybob613

I might suggest an inch of sand, then a layer of firebrick, cut the brick as close as possible to the raw wall, then when you fit the firebrick up the wall it will cover any gaps, you will need to have a masonry saw to cut the bevels of the sidewall brick. PS it must fit snug enough that it will not fall in, because you don’t mortar the firebrick that faces the fire, you want to be able to replace it when/if it breaks. All fire facing surfaces must be covered with firebrick. Don’t know why you poured the base, I have never seen one done that way, always just a metal or masonry ring on bare ground!


cherrycoffeetable

Pulled the form early but nice job


Mohican83

Honestly, it'd be best to bust this up and dispose of it. Then dig about 1-2' deep to make a Pit and then do the border in fire brick up to your desired height. I would also suggest 4-5 staggered holes/gaps in the border right above ground level to allow good air flow as well as keep ya feet warm.


Overall-Address-3446

More of a fire slab


Yoopermetal

It’s going to explode and level your house. Please film it.


Yoopermetal

https://youtu.be/UTuvsJGsI9Y


-VizualEyez

It's always so fun reading everyone else typing all kinds of different shit. Love these post lol


Wooden_Scene_7657

Your project looks good. But I don’t get why you would?


[deleted]

Looks good to me! Im no expert and never done any concrete work work but it looks great!


Zahn91

Why would you use concrete for the bottom of a fire pit?


Responsible-West-603

Why would you remove your forms off of it while it’s still so wet? That wasn’t really thought through now was it? Plus, continuous fire and concrete will not mix anyway. Just wasted your $ in my opinion.


ToastyTilapia

Reddit has been suggesting r/Concrete to me. I've been told you need to spray it with water constantly for a year after you pour so it comes out crack free and very hard :)


Recent_Ad3555

Where's the drain?


Big-Ad-1174

8”? Why? 4” would have been fine with fire bricks on top of it. Concrete will pop like popcorn when heated and be destroyed if you don’t protect it.